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From this: Bitcointalk's historical important changes, then coupable discussed and asked for a new section for information on local boards as important changes of the bitcointalk.org forum. It is what I am not going to. Personally, I have some reasons to reject a new section in that thread. Local boards are important components of the forum, obviously, but each local boards have different level of importance in the forum. Summarise all of local boards as one of important changes of the forum is likely irrelevant. Today, I created the thread, in which I will give you some details on the history of all local boards. It is acceptable if I make mistakes in details or miss some local boards. You are definitely have more understandings on you local boards. If you find any of such mistakes or missed local boards, please help me. I appreciated all of your contributions to improve the thread. I ranked the status of each local board based on their ranks presented here Notes:- Birthday: by default, it is the date on which the first post of each local board published.
- Request on local moderator(s) from theymos: Like that one, see. If you know such requests from theymos in your boards, please let me know.
- A. birthday (Adjusted birthday): recommended by knowledgeable members of each local boards and can be shortly before or after default birthday. It is the day on which locals asked for creation of their local boards. Click on each adjusted birthday to see more details.
It is your favorite local board, not mine, so if you know something interesting, please let me know. Main languages
Other languages (all moderated by @Cyrus) All of them are Inactive. See details here
Name | Topic # | Link | Birthday | A. birthday | Moderator(s) | Status | ________________________________ | __________ | _______ | _____________ | _____________ | _______________________ | __________________ | Bangladesh (Bengali) | 631891 | Link | 30/5/2014 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Active | Uzbekistan (Uzbekiston) | 1992326 | Link | 29/6/2017 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Azerbaijan | 270929 | Link | 09/8/2013 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Հայերեն (Armenian) | 1972798 | Link | 18/6/2017 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Việt (Vietnamese) | 60101 | Link | 18/1/2012 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Esperanto | 1568 | Link | 25/10/2010 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Lietuviai (Lithuanian) | 24339 | Link | 29/6/2011 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Eesti (Estonian) | 23048 | Link | 27/6/2011 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Česky (Czech) | 33050 | Link | 30/7/2011 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Canada | 183337 | Link | 22/4/2013 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Singapore | 214887 | Link | 24/5/2013 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Sri Lanka | 2106234 | Link | 30/8/2017 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | ქართული (Georgian) | 679928 | Link | 06/7/2014 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Slovenija (Slovenia) | 23321 | Link | 27/6/2011 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Latvija (Latvia) | 957954 | Link | 16/02/2015 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Malaysia | 85430 | Link | 04/6/2012 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Suomi (Finnish) | 7319 | Link | 05/5/2011 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | فارسی (Persian) | 620798 | Link | 22/5/2014 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Укpaїнcькa (Ukrainian) | 236982 | Link | 18/6/2013 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Cpпcки (Serbian) | 51450 | Link | 10/11/2011 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | ภาษาไทย (Thai) | 567738 | Link | 12/4/2014 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Magyar (Hungarian) | 20301 | Link | 21/6/2011 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive | Бългapcки (Bulgarian) | 56593 | Link | 04/01/2012 | No | Cyrus, Xal0lex | Inactive |
- * Locked at November 08, 2017, 08:52:25 AM
- *: Initially, I chose 150 as a threshold, but because the figure of German is a little bit less than 150, I adjusted the threshold a bit.
- *: need more confirmations, so please help if you know it.
Rank criteria:For now, only based on npost_daily = total posts / total days (from birthday to today) ________________________________ | ______________________ | Status | Criteria (on npost_daily) | ________________________________ | ______________________ | Extremely active | >= 600 | Very active | >= 140 | Active | >= 25 - < 140 * | Less active | >= 5 - < 25 | Inactive | <5 | ________________________________ | ______________________ |
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For local boards in the main languages sectionI made new variables for the rates of new posts (npost_daily) and new topics (ntopic_daily) per day for each local boards. Then sorting them out descendingly for each variable. I allocated local boards corressponding ranks (rankpost - according to descending orders of npost_daily; and ranktopic - according to descending orders of ntopic_daily). Total days in between the birthdays of local boards and today calculated. In the below list, I sorted all local boards out descendingly, according to rankpost that calculated from npost_daily. Based on the criteria, the top 5 active local boards are: - Russian: 1505 posts/day
- Indonesian: 545 posts/day
- Turkish: 376 posts/day
- Chinese: 213 posts/day
- Pilipinas: 174 posts/day
There are two sets of criteria but I would like to choose the rankpost. There is no reasons for now to combine two criteria sets. Details:. list rankpost ranktopic boardname npost_daily ntopics_daily npost ntopics daysbetween birthday today, abb(30)
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | rankpost ranktopic boardname npost_daily ntopics_daily npost ntopics daysbetween birthday today | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 1. | 1 1 Russian 1356.2 36.3 4626017 123808 3411 28jul2010 29nov2019 | 2. | 2 5 Indonesian 545 6.5 1049600 12574 1926 21aug2014 29nov2019 | 3. | 3 3 Turkish 375.2 16 889951 38038 2372 01jun2013 29nov2019 | 4. | 4 2 Chinese 212.9 28.9 658643 89330 3093 11jun2011 29nov2019 | 5. | 5 6 Pilipinas 173.4 5.5 241878 7642 1395 03feb2016 29nov2019 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 6. | 6 4 German 145.4 7.8 485286 26060 3338 09oct2010 29nov2019 | 7. | 7 7 Italian 85.4 5.2 265617 16159 3110 25may2011 29nov2019 | 8. | 8 10 Francais 70.6 3.9 227468 12467 3223 01feb2011 29nov2019 | 9. | 9 8 Spanish 60.1 5 201603 16840 3353 24sep2010 29nov2019 | 10. | 10 15 Japanese 54.2 1.5 39924 1115 737 22nov2017 29nov2019 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 11. | 11 11 Portuguese 43.1 3.4 133939 10522 3108 27may2011 29nov2019 | 12. | 12 9 Arabic 35.6 4.4 33540 4169 942 01may2017 29nov2019 | 13. | 13 12 India 27.7 3.4 73041 9100 2639 07sep2012 29nov2019 | 14. | 14 19 Crotian 22.8 1 40862 1751 1794 31dec2014 29nov2019 | 15. | 15 13 Romanian 17.6 2 44246 5061 2511 13jan2013 29nov2019 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 16. | 16 17 Greek 16.5 1.2 39172 2892 2374 30may2013 29nov2019 | 17. | 17 14 Dutch 15.4 1.6 47371 5057 3076 28jun2011 29nov2019 | 18. | 18 18 Polski 12.5 1.1 29689 2507 2384 20may2013 29nov2019 | 19. | 19 16 Korean 6 1.3 15932 3528 2648 29aug2012 29nov2019 | 20. | 20 20 Skandianvisk 2.5 .4 8225 1407 3242 13jan2011 29nov2019 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 21. | 21 21 Hebrew 1 .3 2474 702 2504 20jan2013 29nov2019 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Ranks in total posts per day (ntopics_daily): . list ranktopic boardname ntopics_daily, abb(30)
+------------------------------------------+ | ranktopic boardname ntopics_daily | |------------------------------------------| 1. | 1 Russian 36.3 | 2. | 2 Chinese 28.9 | 3. | 3 Turkish 16 | 4. | 4 German 7.8 | 5. | 5 Indonesian 6.5 | |------------------------------------------| 6. | 6 Pilipinas 5.5 | 7. | 7 Italian 5.2 | 8. | 8 Spanish 5 | 9. | 9 Arabic 4.4 | 10. | 10 Francais 3.9 | |------------------------------------------| 11. | 12 India 3.4 | 12. | 11 Portuguese 3.4 | 13. | 13 Romanian 2 | 14. | 14 Dutch 1.6 | 15. | 15 Japanese 1.5 | |------------------------------------------| 16. | 16 Korean 1.3 | 17. | 17 Greek 1.2 | 18. | 18 Polski 1.1 | 19. | 19 Crotian 1 | 20. | 20 Skandianvisk .4 | |------------------------------------------| 21. | 21 Hebrew .3 | +------------------------------------------+
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Great post, mate. This post is like the current data (information) of all local boards on bitcointalk. And I am glad to see my local board become one of the top ones based on the number of "npost" / the most active local boards. Anyway, I don't see how many members are involved in each local board. It will be interesting to know if you can add the information.
I am surprised to know that there are some local boards having no moderators. How to handle spam posts there? Report to........?
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Update for other languages:From the results, I updated status for all of them as Inactive. * Vietnamese: locked at 08nov2017. Stats for Vietnamese ended at that day, not today.. list rankpost boardname npost_daily npost daysbetween birthday today, abb(30)
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | rankpost boardname npost_daily npost daysbetween birthday today | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 1. | 1 vietnamese 3.9 8250 2090 18feb2012 08nov2017 | 2. | 2 ukrainian 2.3 5416 2355 18jun2013 29nov2019 | 3. | 3 bangladesh 2.1 4276 2009 30may2014 29nov2019 | 4. | 4 srilanka 1.7 1433 831 20aug2017 29nov2019 | 5. | 5 serbian 1.5 4275 2941 10nov2011 29nov2019 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 6. | 6 hungarian .6 1911 3083 21jun2011 29nov2019 | 7. | 7 czech .5 1418 3044 30jul2011 29nov2019 | 8. | 8 malaysia .5 1472 2734 04jun2012 29nov2019 | 9. | 9 singapore .4 922 2380 24may2013 29nov2019 | 10. | 10 slovenia .4 1217 3077 27jun2011 29nov2019 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 11. | 11 thai .4 815 2057 12apr2014 29nov2019 | 12. | 12 persian .3 537 2017 22may2014 29nov2019 | 13. | 13 latvia .2 404 1747 16feb2015 29nov2019 | 14. | 14 georgian .2 411 1972 06jul2014 29nov2019 | 15. | 15 bulgarian .2 568 2886 04jan2012 29nov2019 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 16. | 16 esperanto .1 172 3322 25oct2010 29nov2019 | 17. | 17 lithuanian .1 394 3075 29jun2011 29nov2019 | 18. | 18 canada .1 140 2412 22apr2013 29nov2019 | 19. | 19 uzbekistan 0 23 883 29jun2017 29nov2019 | 20. | 20 azerbaijan 0 4 2303 09aug2013 29nov2019 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 21. | 21 finnish 0 138 3130 05may2011 29nov2019 | 22. | 22 estonian 0 124 3077 27jun2011 29nov2019 | 23. | 23 armenian 0 25 894 18jun2017 29nov2019 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Anyway, I don't see how many members are involved in each local board. It will be interesting to know if you can add the information.
I can't, I am sorry. I am surprised to know that there are some local boards having no moderators. How to handle spam posts there? Report to........?
AFAIK, some moderators or global moderators handle some boards, simultaneously.
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Local boards are an area of potential great growth. My local board, Spanish, is clearly underused in relation to the world population that speaks the language, and currently shows a great gap between current posting activity, and potential posting activity. There are other factors to weigh-in such as wealth, culture, technological settlement, and so forth, but the gap is pretty wide, and I do hope it eventually boosts (maybe SEO can help). Just a additions to the data reflected in the OP: - The Birthday of the Local Boards I think are, in some instances, that of a prior Language Thread. For example, the Spanish Local board figures as the oldest, born on the 24/09/2010, but it was really constituted as a local board on the 19/05/2011 (see Please create a Local/Castellano (Spanish) forum). This is just a technicality that I found to be true for my local board, albeit an important one for the board itself. - Dealing with averages has it’s particularities. The longer the period of time, the more data points we flatten out into a single value, losing some perspective as to evolution of the values. Dealing with posts count numbers is a bit of a p.i.t.a., and at some point, I decided to follow these values for local board (not local threads) on a monthly basis, in order to get a better reading of post count evolution, and specially on it’s distribution over main+first level childboards (i.e. in order to separate Altcoin stuff from the rest). For example, the Russian local board is currently generating just over 20k posts per month: https://public.tableau.com/shared/W5QB867G7?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_linkThe Russian postcount, for example, differs from the overall average quite a bit (just under 700 new net(*) posts per day last month vs 1504 all time average). Altcoin now represents there around 7,88% of newly created posts, whilst on January 2018 it was 46,76%. It’s interesting to play around with the data (alas, manually retrieved each month), and retrieve information in the process. (*) Net: created - deleted - moved
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- The Birthday of the Local Boards I think are, in some instances, that of a prior Language Thread. For example, the Spanish Local board figures as the oldest, born on the 24/09/2010, but it was really constituted as a local board on the 19/05/2011 (see Please create a Local/Castellano (Spanish) forum). This is just a technicality that I found to be true for my local board, albeit an important one for the board itself. Same goes for Philippines local board [most likely that's the case with other local boards as well]: Can the Philippines PLEASE get their own sub-section? [14/01/2016]
Name | Id | Link | Birthday | Moderator(s) | Status | ________________________________ | _____ | _______ | _____________ | _______________________ | __________________ | Français | 13 | Link | Need help | Halab | Updating |
Based on the published dates, this is the very first thread on that board [it doesn't represent its birthday]: 17/01/2011- Perhaps it's best to just add a note in front of those boards with no clear birthdays...
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- The Birthday of the Local Boards I think are, in some instances, that of a prior Language Thread. For example, the Spanish Local board figures as the oldest, born on the 24/09/2010, but it was really constituted as a local board on the 19/05/2011 (see Please create a Local/Castellano (Spanish) forum). This is just a technicality that I found to be true for my local board, albeit an important one for the board itself. I forgot to add some more notes, in particular the pre-history of the first post in your local board (Spanish). I left some notes previously but now it is time to edit OP with more notes to make it more understandable, and easily get more helps. It is acceptable if I make mistakes in details or miss some local boards. You are definitely have more understandings on you local boards. If you find any of such mistakes or missed local boards, please help me. I appreciated all of your contributions to improve the thread.
- Dealing with averages has it’s particularities. The longer the period of time, the more data points we flatten out into a single value, losing some perspective as to evolution of the values. Dealing with posts count numbers is a bit of a p.i.t.a., and at some point, I decided to follow these values for local board (not local threads) on a monthly basis
I know but for such a cross-sectional data (like the thread in initial version), the averages are all I can do for now. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) It’s interesting to play around with the data (alas, manually retrieved each month), and retrieve information in the process.
I agreed and I am going to observe and publish more data on monthly basis.
Based on the published dates, this is the very first thread on that board [it doesn't represent its birthday]: 17/01/2011Thanks. For the birthday of the Français local board, I am going to wait for @Halab. - Perhaps it's best to just add a note in front of those boards with no clear birthdays...
Added more notes.
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Thanks. For the birthday of the Français local board, I am going to wait for @Halab.
I am not the official historian of the french section ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I'm far from knowing everything, but I did a little research and I didn't find a topic asking for the creation of the french sub-section. But in the Staff section, I found a message, from June 2011, from the french mod at this time asking for new sections to be added. So the anniversary date of the creation of the french section is somewhere in the first half of the year 2011.
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I would like to shed some light on the early days of the history of Indian local board. For quite some time from 2010, there was somewhat moderate activity of Indians in this forum. But since they didn't have a forum, they were discussing about the Indian bitcoin stuffs in Bitcoin Discussion and the transactions of Indian Rupee to Bitcoin took place in Marketplace section. knight22 was the first user to request for a separate local board dedicated to India in Meta. Some literally very old satoshi timers hailing from India (diswara) supported the idea and was taken into theymos attention. knight22 requesting for a separate local board dedicated to India : I have noticed that a lot of people from India are trying to get closer relations. Maybe it is the good time to create a new sub forum in the local bord for India people?
diswara supported the idea : I am from Tamilnadu, India & I encourage to have a sub forum. The reason for not much coordination on Bitcoin awareness is due to different language people living in different part of India.
The uniqueness of India "Unity in diversity", some what restricts coordination due to different languages. So, it will take some time.
theymos created a new local board for India : OK, added.
This was how the local board was created. For over 6 months the board didn't have a dedicated moderator, then Benson Samuel PMd theymos to make him the moderator at somewhere around March 2013. Then theymos replied Benson for how people of India are reacting to his moderator position. Hello All,
I had written to theymos to grant me access as the moderator for the India forum.
It could use a lot of organizing and mild moderation.
He has requested me to post this and request India forum members for their opinion if everyone is alright with me as the moderator.
Looking forward to some responses and suggestions.
And then finally at March 20,2013 Benson was made the moderator for Indian local board. Till the coinsecure hack he was the sole moderator and was removed from the position at April 2019. This is how the Indian local board was created and Benson was made the moderator. EDIT : September 11,2012 marks the birth of Indian local board. A really good and unique topic. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 29, 2019, 12:04:00 PM Last edit: November 29, 2019, 12:14:29 PM by Rikafip |
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How come you marked Japanese section as "Active" , while they have very little activity in last year?
Croatian, Polish, Greek, Dutch and even Romanian have been more active than Japanese in 2019 and they are marked as "less active". Even Korean, that is marked as "inactive" has been more active lately than Japanese section.
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November 29, 2019, 01:04:01 PM Last edit: November 29, 2019, 01:17:15 PM by tranthidung |
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Thanks. I missed it. How come you marked Japanese section as "Active" , while they have very little activity in last year?
Croatian, Polish, Greek, Dutch and even Romanian have been more active than Japanese in 2019 and they are marked as "less active". Even Korean, that is marked as "inactive" has been more active lately than Japanese section.
The ranks are based on average daily posts within the whole period since birthday of each board. Yeah, it incorrectly reflects the level of activity of each board but for now, I stick with it. With that indicator, npost_daily, the Japanese board has higher rank. Please see the Rank criteria in OP. Over time, each month passes, I will have more data and I will consider to add more indicators, such as total posts and average daily posts within last 120-days period.
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How come you marked Japanese section as "Active" , while they have very little activity in last year?
Croatian, Polish, Greek, Dutch and even Romanian have been more active than Japanese in 2019 and they are marked as "less active". Even Korean, that is marked as "inactive" has been more active lately than Japanese section.
He took average posts per day made in each section since their creation (and without accounting for previously existing language threads which were later moved to the newly created sections, but that is a minor detail) to sort the local boards.
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The actual date of birthday of the Russian local is July 28, 2010 It's interesting that so many Russians have shown interest in the project. Thinking about the Russian culture and society, I'm not completely surprised why. I'll make a new board, let's see how many non-English-speaking users we'll get.
The first topic in the Russian local.
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Great job tranthidung. Your topic motivated me to visit some local boards to know what's going on there and what are the main subjects that are being discussed on each one of them. Regarding the Arabic local board, please update the creation date to the 9th of October 2017: Glad to see my local board tagged as Active.
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Nice topic OP. It helps one keep truck of their local board of interest and also know when it was created. Couldn't afford 5+ sMerits as that was the last sMerit i had. Maybe i will come back some day when i get more ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) As observed Europe and Asian Languages are dominating the local board section (it's good because it helps natives feel at home in the forum and discuss freely) but it makes me wonder what is happening to our brothers and Sisters in Africa. It's one of the continents known to have hundreds of local languages yet i barely know anyone in this forum who is from there. Could they have just abandoned using their local languages in the forum for English, French, German? Or are they not just interest in discussing crypto?
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As observed Europe and Asian Languages are dominating the local board section (it's good because it helps natives feel at home in the forum and discuss freely) but it makes me wonder what is happening to our brothers and Sisters in Africa. It's one of the continents known to have hundreds of local languages yet i barely know anyone in this forum who is from there. Could they have just abandoned using their local languages in the forum for English, French, German? Or are they not just interest in discussing crypto?
English and French are the lingua franca of many African countries, they're here, usually posting in English. Sometimes you can recognize them by their signature if they want to announce themselves.
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Regarding the Arabic local board, please update the creation date to the 9th of October 2017: The date of Arabic Local board in the OP is May 01, 2017 which is before the date of this post by Theymos. It is clear that the correct creation date of Arabic board is October 9, 2017. The Arabic thread link which is posted in the OP, had been likely posted in a Non-Arabic board and moved to the Arabic board after it was created. There might be some other errors in the OP due to moved topics.
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