Hi @ibminer @suchmoon I think there needs some improvement on the most merited ranking and badge. As of now the website is using the ranking of most merited based on Earned plus Airdropped Merits. So we are having even members who earned only 3 Merits since the Merit system was implemented over 2 years ago and are still in the top 1000 positions just because they have 1000 airdropped merits like this
profile yet a person who has been active and earned 900 Merits from 0 doesn't even have the badge.
Why don't we start giving members badges based on "Most Earned Merits" instead of Most Merited?
Read the post preceding yours and you'll see that it's not easy to come up with a solution that pleases everyone. If we do something based on earned merits it may be in addition to (not instead of) total merits but for now it will likely stay as it is.
Hi @logfiles, I can actually correct a misconception that keeps reoccurring
and the silence from suchmoon and ibminer on suggestions on how to correct their error tells me that they don't want to listen to other people's suggestions. - ok, I withdraw that remark - perhaps they just don't know how to fix it?If you look at this page:
https://archive.vn/mdxSvYou will see my rankings are as follows:
If you look down the left hand side you can see the tables for MATR and MERIT INFORMATION and can see my merit values on the 3
rd of February 2020 were as follows:
Notice at this point in January/February 2020 both the MATR Merit Score and the Merit Information RANK are the same value:
284In the weeks that followed, ownership of the website changed hands ( @Vod etc can clarify when exactly that occurred ) and a new, previously unseen rank of MOST MERITED was introduced.
The URL
https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=earnedmerited was changed to
https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=earnedmerit and although it is the ranking system that is used in the three part calculation along with MOST ACTIVE and MOST TRUSTED, what you now see is the MOST MERITED factoring in the so-called air-dropped initial merits (in my case 1,000 merits) on the user profile page which makes it look my merits have jumped up to what they are today:
My Rank of MOST POSTS has jumped from 366
th place to 299
th place, that much is true. However, if you go down the left hand side again you'll see the RANK for "merit" on the two lines are now different:
In January/February 2020 my Merit Score was hovering around 284. Today, the 16
th of May 2020, my Earned Merit Score (what overall RANK is calculated on) is 281. No real change. A side discussion on the fact that two (or
two hundred and twenty-nine) people can have the same score but have two (or two hundred and twenty-nine) different RANKS (as well as my asking them to clarify how they rank such equal scores disproportionality) is another issue S&I aren't responding to. (As is another suggestion of mine in opening up the RANKS across the board to the first ten thousand ranks)
Thanks for your answer.
I know that, but it doesn't tell me why the change. "Most merited" rankings used to be based on earned merit.
New owners....
I got that. But it makes no sense.
It's like a race where people don't start at the same point but have the same finish line As I've said in the post @suchmoon references, time and again people will continue to repeatedly ask why their scores don't marry up with the rank and then just a few days later, you came on to ask the same question.
Why don't we start giving members badges based on "Most Earned Merits" instead of Most Merited?
That's a good question. They did, but called it MOST MERITED, then they created a new rank called EARNED MERIT which is the same thing.
IIRC --> @Vod had hinted at other badges the only one I could recall him mentioning was a
donation to the BPIP site badge (
<-- IIRC). There would be no difficulties (I wouldn't have thought) with
BOTH the Most Merited AND the Earned Merit badges being displayed side-by-side (in that order) on the ranking page. It would certainly cut down on the repeated questions about the error in showing a rank of e.g.
117 but using a calculation of
281 which @ibminer slapped me with distrust for simply asking that question.
I now distrust ibminer because after he distrust me he accused me [
1a], [
1b] of placing a virus in my link to a Google Spread Sheet and now
Trolls me when he does respond to my posts. (Not very professional for someone in what is supposed to be a serious thread)
Another work-around if they don't want to show MOST MERITED and EARNED MERIT side-by-side would be when a mouse hovers over the MOST MERITED shield it swivels around to show the EARNED MERIT shield in its place. At a glance, you can see your overall merits, and peek at the earned merits.
I doubt either
S or I will respond, all we can do is tally up the number of times they get asked the exact same question.
Thanks for reading.