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February 11, 2020, 02:13:15 PM
Last edit: February 11, 2020, 02:58:25 PM by BitcoinFX
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Indeed, quite incidentally or perhaps inadvertently, William Shatner now appears to of 'joined' Project Anastasia: Bitcoiners Against Identity Theft  [re: Craig Wright scam] with the following tweet(s)! ...

"Why can’t he prove it? 🤷🏼‍♂️
From what I’ve read is that some mysterious bonded courier would deliver the keys (which honestly is a scene right out of Back to the Future.)  If he is, he should be able to prove it. This is like the modern day search for Anastasia."

- https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1226894636699942914

...

*meme*

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"Well this really says nothing. He’s the one claiming to be Satoshi, so like Anastasia he needs to prove it. And it would seem that signing the block would prove he has the keys which is a step in the “Wright” direction. 😉"
- https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1226974499238793224

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"Judges look at facts & apply it to the law & previous judgements. Would an ordinary, learned, person such as a Judge  be able to look at the keys & say “yes these are Satoshi’s keys”? 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
I just feel there’s a simpler way to prove it & hush all the detractors."

- https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1226978536306683905

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1. He claims he is.
2. He says he has the keys.
3. Sign.

Why bother with videos explaining why?  Just do #3. 🙄
 

To ask a judge is just wasting the court’s time and leaves the ruling open to scrutiny as to what was presented versus what wasn’t. 🤷🏼‍♂️"

- https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1226993632374333440

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So he’s Tiny Tim; tiptoeing through the Tulips? 🤷🏼‍♂️ I would have blocked him long ago with all these weird stories. 🙄 Let me know what the judge says. 😉"

- https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1226998666839384065

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- https://twitter.com/BitcoinFX_BTC/status/1227238721629507588

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- https://twitter.com/BitcoinFX_BTC/status/1227239073472843776

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February 11, 2020, 04:44:32 PM
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Haha, this is awesome! Not only because I read that quote and heard Shatner's voice while I did it but that a senior citizen celebrity seems to actually be somewhat educated about bitcoin...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/william-shatner-doubts-craig-wrights-claims-to-inventing-bitcoin
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“Why can’t he prove it? From what I’ve read is that some mysterious bonded courier would deliver the keys (which honestly is a scene right out of Back to the Future.)  If he is, he should be able to prove it. This is like the modern day search for Anastasia.”
Wait the Captain reads the forum? Or nullius is Shatner? etc

https://twitter.com/BitcoinFX_BTC/status/1226926687960600577?s=20

Indeed, quite incidentally or perhaps inadvertently, William Shatner now appears to of 'joined' Project Anastasia: Bitcoiners Against Identity Theft  [re: Craig Wright scam] with the following tweet(s)! ...

"Why can’t he prove it? 🤷🏼‍♂️
From what I’ve read is that some mysterious bonded courier would deliver the keys (which honestly is a scene right out of Back to the Future.)  If he is, he should be able to prove it. This is like the modern day search for Anastasia."

- https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1226894636699942914

[...more quotes and links...]

Holy fork!  This suddenly makes want to watch Star TrekMy respect, Captain Kirk!

There is hereby an important lesson:  Whether Shatner borrowed my idea, or he indpendently thought of the same historical analogy (which would be an big coincidence due to the timing ;-), the truth is spreading—and that’s great for Bitcoin!

Shatner is a celebrity with a giant microphone.  Through his social media and his entrée to the mainstream media, he will carry Anastasia’s message to masses of people—and they will carry it to their Facebooks and Twitters and IRL chit-chat with their friends.

I did not make Project Anastasia for the Bitcoin Forum only.  I made it as a message to be built on Satoshi’s own forum, and spread by a cadre of Bitcoiners to every other venue of discussion.

A community is made of people, I am a person—so I decided to lead by example, starting with two topics showing the types of discussion that I hope others will join me in carrying forward, far, and wide into many languages and many venues of discussion:

  • Bitcoin: The Social Phenomenon, a positive essay to explain why my motto is, “There is only one Bitcoin”...  I think it is important to keep this principle:  Always say what you are, before you say what you are against.  [...]
  • Project Anastasia...

In the long term, these two will only be the beginning...

I always work slowly, but I am a patient man; and I have started my Bitcoin advocacy with the intent of growing it to have a long-term large effect, not of making a drama splash and then getting bored.  Bitcoin is worth love, it is worth working for—and it is worth fighting for.

I assure you that the emotional impact of my Anastasia essay was fully, consciously intended—and moreover, intended to be exemplary:  This is how it’s done, folks! [...]

Wherefore I encourage others to spread the Anastasia Bitcoin message to other venues of discussion, and also to create similar forms of argument upon the principles that I have hereby set forth.

People should neither ignore Wright, nor wildly lash out at him:  Keep focus, keep the high ground, and keep hitting the key points, repeatedly, in every single discussion so that he cannot get away with these cheap psychological ploys.

(...etc....  I think also in a few other places that I didn’t find on a quick review...)

I have been intending to elaborate on the necessity of starting with this thread, and spreading the message elsewhere.  Evidently, the discussion has gotten ahead of me at warp-speed!

Please, could some Trek fans help me out here!  It’s the that best I can do. :-(

Of course, among other means of spreading Anastasia’s message, it is fully appropriate to tweet links to this thread...



On General Knowledge and Identity

A neat demonstration of why Hyena-style tactical diversion must be cut off at the threshold:  Such arguments about alleged general similarity of knowledge and ideas can lead to absurdies which are comical, if not made with malicious intent.  Maybe William Shatner is nullius, who invented Bitcoin?

Could be funny, if it were not malicious disinformation intended to be brainwash people who lack the technical expertise to make their own assessments:
I know the language Craig speaks very well and as a professional in my field I can say that Craig clearly knows what he is talking about.

LOL, troll:
Nullius' knowledge about blockchain science and cryptography is a dead giveaway....  He could even be Satoshi.  Shocked
(Gleb Gamow also once joked in good humour that I may be Satoshi due to my use of two spaces after each sentence.  Key terms: “joked”, “good humour”.  Sorry, I can’t find it now.)

Funny!
Or nullius is Shatner?

I myself have futilely tried to crack Satoshi’s keys using magick, for the principal purpose of signing a message that says, “I am not Satoshi. — nullius, Bitcoin Forum #976210, PGP fingerprint 0xC2E91CD74A4C57A105F6C21B5A00591B2F307E0C” ;-)

A takedown of Faketoshi’s technical incompetence is important in its own way.  That has been done many times—here, on Reddit, and pretty much everywhere else that this matter is discussed.  But it is a discussion which should be cut off cold when shills use claims of “Dr.” Wright’s alleged expertise to divert and reframe so as to sneak around the threshold question.  I myself will happily engage a debate over Wright’s expertise (or lack thereof) if and only if he produces a Satoshi-signed message which identifies him as Satoshi. *crickets*

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maybe CW knows who the the real sathosi is.
and he killed him or maybe death by natural cause , so the real one cant fight back agains him.
because he knows no one can never be able to prove otherwise as sathosi himself
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February 11, 2020, 06:46:11 PM
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Interesting analogy, using Anastasia for Satoshi impersonators. I guess the communists just copied the French when they did their revolution so the country could never ever return to monarchy.... Now communism is gone, but so is the monarchy. Strangely enough the current leadership doesn't appear to change much...

Craig? Who cares. I think implying him to be equal to an Anastasia impersonator is giving him way too much credit. He should be put aside with the rest of the faketoshis, a dime a dozen.

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Please, could some Trek fans help me out here!  It’s the that best I can do. :-(

As I'm being the biggest movie watcher here (and I'm not kidding; I honestly don't think that anyone else spent so much from his / her life watching movies / TV series -- meaning several years) and as one who watched all Star Treks, I salute you! And I'll spread the word your words even more than I did til now!

(Somehow) Getting back on the subject (although it is VERY hard, due to latest involvements), I think now, that (one of my childhood idols) Captain Kirk is involved, nullius' words will be heared in the outer space! Even Klingonians will hear about this Pinocchio pretending to be Satoshi!

And no, I'm not kidding (I wouldn't DARE to troll nullius' posts)! If such a personality as Captain Kirk mentioned this identity theft; if such a Hollywood celebrity (which is way more well-known than anyone from this forum) speaks about this theft, then not only the entire world, but also the Klingonians, Vulcanians and other outer alien races will hear about it!

Honestly, I wouldn't EVER believe that an 88 years old man would be interested in this subject. But even if it's him, or someone administrating his Twitter, the word will still be spread! And regarding the mention to Anastasia (God rest her soul), I really believe that who is controlling that account looked here first! The coincidence is WAY too big!



I don't know the connection between CSW and Mt. Gox (and I'm ashamed of that). Maybe someone can share a link?



Gazeta Bitcoin, which is one of the fewest Romanian crypto-newspaper, called out this Pinocchio long years ago! [Edit: here is the proof! The article is from October 2017.]



In the end, one question remains: why can't we all sue him?

And this question brang into my mind a topic which I intend to write about Jullian Assange -- if we can help him too (coming soon). After all, he was (is) also one of the few true Cypherpunks. God knows how many years he has to live (IN JAIL!). But all of them will pass away. Maybe we can do something for the ones still alive. Forgive me nullius for this offtopic, but I couldn't stop myself from mentioning it.

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February 12, 2020, 02:44:31 AM
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If you thought wright couldn't top the last dozen absurd lies and idiotic baseless legal threats he's issued... you have a surprise in store for you:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200210203809/https://medium.com/@craig_10243/ccbe22f2637e

He is now claiming his stole identity entitles him to complete ownership of the Bitcoin system.

Even if CSW could win such a claim in an actual court of law (and that is a BIG ASS "IF"), good luck enforcing it.  That pie in the sky imaginative diptwat. 

CSW is likely writing that nonsense for the gullible wanna get scammed BSV pumpener/bagholders in order to get them to buy more BSV... which may or may not allow craig and his buddy calvin to be able to dump some of their worthless bags.

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at least Vitalik has some brain and it's honest.

No need to pump nonsense about that scammer (aka vitalik), here.

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If you thought wright couldn't top the last dozen absurd lies and idiotic baseless legal threats he's issued... you have a surprise in store for you:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200210203809/https://medium.com/@craig_10243/ccbe22f2637e

He is now claiming his stole identity entitles him to complete ownership of the Bitcoin system.

Ugh. I tried to read this but could only get about a quarter of the way through. It is too infuriating. He's basically trying to re-define bitcoin in a way that maximizes his control and influence over it, un-ironically under the pretense that he is Satoshi.

To think that people could still believe Craig is Satoshi in 2020... In the eyes of most rational people in the community, the issue had been settled by December 2016: he's not.

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The only thing, where CSW got my respect is, how he bamboozled Gavin Andresen.

In case you don't know, here is a nice article about how the story unfolded a few years ago:

https://www.wired.com/2016/05/craig-wright-privately-proved-hes-bitcoins-creator/

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When rumors surfaced early last month that Australian cryptographer Craig Wright would attempt to prove that he created Bitcoin, Gavin Andresen remained skeptical. As the chief scientist of the Bitcoin Foundation, his opinion counts: Andresen is among the earliest programmers for the cryptocurrency, and likely the one who has corresponded more than anyone with Satoshi Nakamoto, Bitcoin's pseudonymous, long-lost inventor.

Today, Andresen fully believes that Wright is Nakamoto. Now he'll have to convince the rest of the world, because he's among the only people to have seen what he claims is the best evidence in Wright's favor.

In an interview with WIRED on Monday following flurry of media reports stating that Wright now publicly claims he created Bitcoin, Andresen described in detail a private meeting he had with Wright in London. And he explains why he left that meeting convinced that Wright is the same Nakamoto who unveiled Bitcoin in 2009 and emailed extensively with him in 2010 and 2011. Andresen says his belief is unwavering, despite a bizarre and highly unconvincing blog post Wright published Monday offering the flimsiest evidence that he invented the cryptocurrency—evidence of a very different sort from what Andresen says Wright revealed to him.

"I’m still convinced he’s Satoshi despite the really weird proof he’s put in his blog post," says Andresen. He stands by a statement he published on his website this morning: "I believe Craig Steven Wright is the person who invented Bitcoin."
The Private 'Proof'

As Andresen tells it, a firm representing Wright contacted him in March and invited him to London for a private, in-person demonstration designed to prove Wright created Bitcoin. Andresen understandably expressed reluctance. WIRED and Gizmodo had named Wright in December as a Satoshi Nakamoto candidate based on leaked emails, accounting documents and transcripts. But then gaps in Wright's story appeared following those reports—including signs he had backdated evidence and misrepresented academic credentials—it seemed Wright was likely pulling an elaborate hoax or con.

But Wright followed up with a series of emails that piqued Andresen's interest. "This is a person who knows an awful lot about Bitcoin and an awful lot about early Bitcoin stuff," Andresen says. "The email conversations I had [with him] sounded like Satoshi to me. It sounded like I was talking to the same person I’d worked with way back when. That convinced me to get on an airplane."

On the morning of April 7, Andresen took a red-eye to London and proceeded directly to a hotel in the Covent Garden district. He met Wright and two associates in a conference room there that afternoon and, Andresen says, Wright performed the cryptographic feat that erased his remaining doubts.

Cryptographers have suggested at least two ways the creator of Bitcoin could prove himself: Nakamoto could move some of the earliest Bitcoins, which are known to belong to him and have never been spent in their seven-year existence; or he could use the same cryptographic "private keys" that would allow those coins' owner to spend them to instead "sign" a message—transforming the message's data in a way that proves he or she possesses keys that only Nakamoto would have.

Wright, Andresen says, offered to perform the second test, signing a message of Andresen's choosing with a key from the first "block" of 50 coins ever claimed by a Bitcoin miner, in this case Nakamoto himself. (He also performed a similar test for Jon Matonis, a former board member of the Bitcoin Foundation, and a reporter for the Economist, the magazine says, using both the first and ninth Bitcoin blocks.) Andresen says he demanded that the signature be checked on a completely new, clean computer. "I didn’t trust them not to monkey with the hardware," says Andresen.

Andresen says an administrative assistant working with Wright left to buy a computer from a nearby store, and returned with what Andresen describes as a Windows laptop in a "factory-sealed" box. They installed the Bitcoin software Electrum on that machine. For their test, Andresen chose the message "Gavin's favorite number is eleven." Wright added his initials, "CSW," and signed the message on his own computer. Then he put the signed message on a USB stick belonging to Andresen and they transferred it to the new laptop, where Andresen checked the signature.

At first, the Electrum software's verification of the signature mysteriously failed. But then Andresen noticed that they'd accidentally left off Wright's initials from the message they were testing, and checked again: The signature was valid.

"It’s certainly possible I was bamboozled," Andresen says. "I could spin stories of how they hacked the hotel Wi-fi so that the insecure connection gave us a bad version of the software. But that just seems incredibly unlikely. It seems the simpler explanation is that this person is Satoshi."
The Problem With the Public Proof

Under other circumstances, the Bitcoin community could almost be convinced by Andresen's account, too. But in contrast to Andresen's private demonstration, the evidence that Wright publicly offered to support his claim almost immediately collapsed. "The procedure that’s supposed to prove Dr. Wright is Satoshi is aggressively, almost-but-not-quite maliciously resistant to actual validation," wrote security researcher Dan Kaminsky early Monday. After more analysis, Kaminsky updated that assessment: "OK, yes, this is intentional scammery."

On a newly-created website, Wright published a blog post featuring what appeared to be a cryptographically signed statement from the writer Jean-Paul Sartre. It seemed intended to show, as in Andresen's demonstration, that Wright possessed one of Nakamoto's private keys. But in fact, Kaminsky and other coders discovered within hours that the signed message wasn't even the Sartre text, but instead transaction data signed by Nakamoto in 2009 and easily accessed on the public Bitcoin blockchain. "Wright's post is flimflam and hokum which stands up to a few minutes of cursory scrutiny," wrote programmer Patrick McKenzie, who published an analysis of Wright's message on Github. "[It] demonstrates a competent sysadmin's level of familiarity with cryptographic tools, but ultimately demonstrates no non-public information about Satoshi."

Even Kaminsky and McKenzie say they can't explain the discrepancy between their analysis and Andresen's story. "But for the endorsement of core developer Gavin Andresen, I would assume that Wright used amateur magician tactics to distract non-technical or non-expert staff of the BBC and the Economist during a stage-managed demonstration," McKenzie writes. "I'm mystified as to how this got past Andresen."
The Disconnect

Andresen, for his part, remains equally mystified by Wright's highly dubious public evidence. The contradiction between the two accounts is so stark that at first some in the Bitcoin community believed that Andresen's blog, where he's vouched for Wright, must have been hacked. He says Wright and his staff wouldn't let him leave the hotel meeting room with his own much stronger evidence, for fear that Andresen would leak it before Wright was ready to come forward. But Andresen says he can't understand why Wright didn't release that information publicly now. He hopes Wright still might.

Andresen's only attempt at an explanation for Wright's bizarre behavior, he says, is an ambivalence about definitively revealing himself after so many years in hiding. "I think the most likely explanation is that … he really doesn’t want to take on the mantle of being the inventor of Bitcoin," says Andresen, who notes that his own credibility is at stake, too. "Maybe he wants things to be really weird and unclear, which would be bad for me."

That uncertainty, Andresen says, seemed to be evident in Wright's manner at the time of their demonstration. Andresen describes Wright as seeming "sad" and "overwhelmed" by the decision to come forward. "His voice was breaking. He was visibly emotional," Andresen says. "He’s either a fantastic actor who knows an awful lot about cryptography, or it actually was emotionally hard for him to go through with this."

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In case you don't know, here is a nice article about how the story unfolded a few years ago:

https://www.wired.com/2016/05/craig-wright-privately-proved-hes-bitcoins-creator/

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[Note article date: “05.02.16” American-style, = 2 May 2016 — nullius]

When rumors surfaced early last month that Australian cryptographer Craig Wright would attempt to prove that he created Bitcoin, Gavin Andresen remained skeptical. As the chief scientist of the Bitcoin Foundation, his opinion counts: Andresen is among the earliest programmers for the cryptocurrency, and likely the one who has corresponded more than anyone with Satoshi Nakamoto, Bitcoin's pseudonymous, long-lost inventor.

[...]

"The procedure that’s supposed to prove Dr. Wright is Satoshi is aggressively, almost-but-not-quite maliciously resistant to actual validation," wrote security researcher Dan Kaminsky early Monday. After more analysis, Kaminsky updated that assessment: "OK, yes, this is intentional scammery."

On a newly-created website, Wright published a blog post featuring what appeared to be a cryptographically signed statement from the writer Jean-Paul Sartre. It seemed intended to show, as in Andresen's demonstration, that Wright possessed one of Nakamoto's private keys. But in fact, Kaminsky and other coders discovered within hours that the signed message wasn't even the Sartre text, but instead transaction data signed by Nakamoto in 2009 and easily accessed on the public Bitcoin blockchain. "Wright's post is flimflam and hokum which stands up to a few minutes of cursory scrutiny," wrote programmer Patrick McKenzie, who published an analysis of Wright's message on Github. "[It] demonstrates a competent sysadmin's level of familiarity with cryptographic tools, but ultimately demonstrates no non-public information about Satoshi."

[...]

That uncertainty, Andresen says, seemed to be evident in Wright's manner at the time of their demonstration. Andresen describes Wright as seeming "sad" and "overwhelmed" by the decision to come forward. "His voice was breaking. He was visibly emotional," Andresen says. "He’s either a fantastic actor who knows an awful lot about cryptography, or it actually was emotionally hard for him to go through with this."

Craig Wright is a “confidence man” and career scammer.  It is not exactly news that experienced scammers are indeed “fantastic actors” who realistically simulate emotions they do not feel.  File that part under, “Do I need to explain this like you are literally five years old?” :-/

Whereas the connected clause, “...who knows an awful lot about cryptography” demands another either-or:  Either Gavin Andresen knows an awful negligibly, infinitesimally little about cryptography, or he had an ulterior motive for boosting Craig Wright’s perpetration of grand-scale identity theft with authoritative “Bitcoin Chief Scientist” expert praise that was as fake as Wright’s Satoshihood.

The Gavin Question:  Stupidity or malice?

The proposition of malicious ulterior motives must invoke the ancient question, Cui bono?

Subject: Gavin will visit the CIA
I want to get this out in the open because it is the kind of thing that will generate conspiracy theories:  I'm going to give a presentation about Bitcoin at CIA headquarters in June at an emerging technologies conference for the US intelligence community.

Subject: Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations
I've accepted an invitation to do a question and answer session at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, DC on Thursday, February 6, 2014.

I've been told anything related to the Council on Foreign Relations tickle's peoples Grand Conspiracy buttons, so I thought it would be best to be open about exactly what will happen. I hope it doesn't spark as long a thread as my visit to the CIA, but Bitcoin is a lot bigger than when I visited the CIA...

(...etc...)

When somebody is a guest of such “interesting” entities as the CIA and CFR—I mean here, when he actually chums up with them, and that is not an “space aliens told me that he might secretly communicate with them” sort of speculation—and then, he in fact proceeds to undermine Bitcoin in every way he can (with his boost of CSW being far from the only such misdeed), that preëmptive bashing of “conspiracy theories” reads as if he doth protest too much, methinks.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120712200425/http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
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5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO.
(Link already handy for another post that I am preparing on a different topic. :-/ )

So, that is the “Gavin is compromised!” theory.  Whereas Craig Wright’s “proof” of a Satoshi signature to Gavin was the kind of idiotic charade that would not fool anybody with an IQ of at least 90, who had at least read the Wikipedia article on digital signatures.

The only alternative theory is thus that the “Chief Scientist” of the ill-conceived “Bitcoin Foundation” is himself so ignorant of cryptography that he does not know how to verify a digital signature!  This, in turn, would require an outward-spiralling technical ignorance enveloping everybody who ever endorsed Gavin’s expertise:  Satoshi himself, various Core members...  Could that multiplicative, exponentiating group incompetence be so?  Really?  The actual creator of Bitcoin extensively corresponded with an idiot who doesn’t know how to verify a digital signature?

In this case, Occam shaves against discarding the “conspiracy theory”.  The simplest, most probable explanation is that Gavin is compromised.



Indeed: Cui bono?

Now, bearing in mind that Gavin has been a friendly guest of the CIA and the CFR, let us see what he created by endorsing Faketoshi.  Who benefits, indeed?

In the following quotations, I deliberately cherry-pick so as to bring out the subtext beneath Wright’s empty emotionalist appeals to things that scare people (drug dealers, etc.—whom I myself personally despise, by the way: I don’t do drugs; I have never bought anything off the “darkweb”; I just want privacy, because it is my right!).  Bracketed material is added by me, sometimes in summary; boldface, red, and (except for a section title) large fonts are mine, whereas italics are as in the original.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190228100312/https://medium.com/@craig_10243/careful-what-you-wish-for-c7c2f19e6c4f
Quote from: Craig Wright (2019-02-08)
Bitcoin was never designed to help an anonymous money-transfer system...

I do not like Wikileaks, and I have never been a fan of Assange’s methods....

Any blockchain is able to be controlled and made to work within the legal frameworks of where it exists. It does not stop government taxing, and it does not bring down banks. It was never designed for such a purpose.

A blockchain is... incredibly simple to trace when the parties to a transaction have breached the law, and it allows a complete audit trail to exist. The past is something people do not understand, and few have learnt. In the 90s, a far more anonymous electronic cash system was developed, and since then, many others have been created.

DigiCash was founded in 1989. Unlike Bitcoin, DigiCash was based on an anonymous model. The system incorporated the transfer of blinded transactions that used DigiCash as a settlement system. Bitcoin uses an open pseudonymous model...


Chaumian eCash can be implemented inside Bitcoin script. I know it well; I have patented it, and will in time realise how it can be achieved. The issue here is that the main issue with eCash was that it used an anonymous currency. Bitcoin does not face such an issue and the regulatory issues that follow...

Bitcoin is an immutable ledger... Bitcoin is a permanent and an unalterable evidence trail. I was not afraid of Gavin and when he met with the CIA. Bitcoin is an immutable data store, that is something that honest government desires.

I needed to fix what I allowed [sic]...

I was embittered for many years.... [A brief swipe at Timothy C. May...]

I have worked in digital forensics a long time prior to creating Bitcoin. I only ever worked for the prosecution....

There is no form of PoW or PoS or any hybrid system that cannot be regulated and monitored, and the most beautiful part of what I am releasing (and have completed) is that the more you try to make something anonymous (rather than pseudonymous), the more it can be controlled. The more you seek to be like Zcash or some other crime coin, the more privacy you give up.

Lightning—all about losing data

The economy is all about information. Bitcoin was a means to take data and add value, it is an informational commodity; that is how it obtains value.

In a perverse twisting of this, Lightning was created...

The creation of off-chain channels that allow information to be deleted [sic]...

It is why the Core team have capped Bitcoin at 1.0 MB and refuse to allow it to scale. It is why they added SegWit and other completely ignorant and insecure changes that have been discarded when I spoke to some of the same people a decade ago.

Let’s see this again:

Subject: Gavin will visit the CIA
I want to get this out in the open because it is the kind of thing that will generate conspiracy theories:  I'm going to give a presentation about Bitcoin at CIA headquarters in June at an emerging technologies conference for the US intelligence community.

Subject: Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations
I've accepted an invitation to do a question and answer session at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, DC on Thursday, February 6, 2014.

Quote from: Wired (2016-05-02)
"I’m still convinced he’s Satoshi despite the really weird proof he’s put in his blog post," says [Gavin] Andresen. He stands by a statement he published on his website this morning: "I believe Craig Steven Wright is the person who invented Bitcoin."

https://web.archive.org/web/20190414230321/https://medium.com/@craig_10243/satoshi-nakamoto-a7c4cf21253e
Quote from: Craig Wright (2019-04-05)
[Opens with a swipe at Timothy C. May...]

Privacy and anonymity are polar opposites... [sic]

To create Bitcoin, I used the very system of thought it is designed to collapse....  All of what I have said and done is hidden in plain sight. Such was the nature of my company, Panoopticrypt...

Bitcoin destroys anonymity in all its forms.... [Followed by an appeal to the emotions of “The proletariat” (!)...]

I was a part of the movement that was the cypherpunks. Not because I agreed but because it needed to be stopped. When you understand Bitcoin, when you understand a sound system of money that acts to allow exchange privately [sic] but with an immutable evidence trail, you will start to understand why I created Bitcoin.

I am not exactly going out on a limb here in positing that the CIA and banks (and organizations where these sorts of things get cozy) indeed benefit from Faketoshi.  They would thus have the motive.  In Gavin, they would have the means to obtain, in Craig Wright, the opportunity.

N.b. that potential motive this is not mutually exclusive with Wright’s obvious personal motive of scamming hapless newbies for money with his pump-and-dump altcoin, falsely advertised as “Bitcoin”.



I saw this years ago.  (And that’s why I am not rich.)

Because “Lightning is nascent”, I have recently begun talking about talking about something I hereto held my tongue about to avoid FUDding Bitcoin before a fix was ready:

The draft of one of my not-yet-published essays opens with the observation that Bitcoin has a fatal flaw; and I continue with some personal discussion of why I’m not “Bitcoin rich”:  I spent years casually watching Bitcoin as an intellectual curiosity, whilst assiduously avoiding use of an append-only global public ledger—an idea which frankly horrified me.  (My proposed solution is Lightning.  By the way, observe who hates Lightning and the Layer-1 technologies that enable it.)  BSV agrees with me, after a fashion:

Bitcoin destroys anonymity in all its forms. [...] The path forward is already set in stone. [...] When you understand Bitcoin, when you understand a sound system of money that acts to allow exchange privately but with an immutable evidence trail, you will start to understand why I created Bitcoin.

Orwellian word-twisting and imposter-claims aside, the quoted portion is correct:  Bitcoin, as originally designed, is an anti-privacy technology.  I saw that years ago.  That’s why I am poor.  I am not revealing non-public information by pointing out that “nullius” appeared on the Zcash project forum before appearing here.  The Zerocoin paper caught my attention in 2013, and I am too patient for my own good.  I am not advocating Zcash here—to the contrary!  Lightning makes “privacy coins” obsolete.

The biggest incentive that I can think of to keep Bitcoin’s design “set in stone” is to retain its anti-privacy characteristics.  BSV openly, explicitly declares that this is its agenda!  WAR IS PEACE.  FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.  FINANCIAL SURVEILLANCE IS PRIVACY.

Wake up, people!  This is not about Craig Wright.  This is much bigger than a scam to grab money (though Wright is no doubt enjoying that ancillary benefit for himself).  It is a strategy to impose KYC-GovCoin by the backdoor....

N.b. that Occam plus all available evidence show that Satoshi just made an awful mistake in his belief that “pseudonymous” transactions would provide sufficient privacy.  Satoshi was a genius working on an extremely difficult unsolved problemTrustless, Byzantine fault-tolerant transaction ordering.  Well, that is a technical description; the colloquial explanation is that Satoshi wanted a way to make people who distrust each other all agree on one financial ledger, without any central authority to resolve disputes.

Satoshi was mortal.  He was a genius, but he was not a god.  He solved one problem that had crippled previous digital monetary systems, and thereby inadvertently introduced a problem which is actually much easier to solve.  From a technical perspective, it is understandable that he failed to foresee how powerful blockchain analysis would become.  (I foresaw it; but I am not Satoshi.)

Lightning is the solution,* for exactly the reason that Craig Wright hates it!  Lightning is a network of private ledgers which are all synchronized by a global public ledger.  The private Lightning ledgers hold your private bank statements, by rough analogy—the global public ledger shows only the opening and closing of the private ledgers.  Do you want to avoid publishing your bank statements on the public ledger?  Move to Lightning!

Lightning is the next step in perfecting Satoshi’s true vision of freedom.

(* And n.b. that I cut my teeth on what Craig Wright calls a “crime coin” (!), as quoted above.  I lost much of my money in Zcash—and knowingly so, painful though that has been:  To me, privacy is more valuable than money.  I am pleased to be able to move on to Lightning, which has better privacy, and is Bitcoin.  Moreover, other strong privacy solutions for Bitcoin are also in development.)



Gavin’s Overall Pattern of Supporting Fork Attacks

In 2015, only about nine months before he boosted the Faketoshi (the forker and fork-forker extraordinaire), Gavin Andresen knifed the rest of Core in the back, and joined surveillance and financial censorship fan Mike Hearn in an early prototype of a fork-attack against Bitcoin:  “Bitcoin XT”.

This post is already too long; and my eyes are blurry after searching for links and quotes for this post and others.  Would somebody else please help concisely to debrief readers on the history here, and its relevance?  For now, I will simply excerpt a 19 August 2015 IEEE Spectrum interview with Dr. Adam Back, the inventor of the Hashcash which Satoshi used as the basis for Bitcoin mining (as cited in the original Bitcoin paper):

https://web.archive.org/web/20150820000929/http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/networks/the-bitcoin-for-is-a-coup
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[Dr. Adam] Back: Gavin [Andresen] naively thinks he'll do the coup, force the issue, and then invite people to participate in the coup. However, Mike [Hearn] states on the BitcoinXT website that he is the final decision maker (or benevolent dictator as he puts it). So, its clearly intended to change the decision making process. And Mike has not been without bias and controversy.

It seems quite unlikely from indications I see that any of the core people who maintain Bitcoin's security will participate in BitcoinXT.  It is therefore not clear that BitcoinXT will have the resources or expertise to maintain it's safety and security.

Quelle surprise that after he supported Bitcoin XT and then boosted Faketoshi, Gavin then supported Btrash; e.g.:

@gavinandresen tweet (archive):
Quote from: Gavin Andresen (Twitter, 2017-11-11)
Bitcoin Cash is what I started working on in 2010: a store of value AND means of exchange.

So, how’s this shaping up?

  • April 2011: Gavin visits the CIA.
  • January 2014: Gavin visits the CFR.
  • August 2015: Gavin joins the first fork-attack against Bitcoin, “Bitcoin XT”.
  • May 2016: Gavin publicly endorses Faketoshi’s technical claim to have “verified” a Satoshi signature—a claim that is later used to promote the BCH fork-attack, and is the sole basis of the BSV fork-attack plus Nchain frivolous legal attacks.
  • Late 2017: Gavin supports BCH fork-attack on Bitcoin.

That’s a summary, and I am tired.  Others should feel free to fill that out a bit (but please keep it to the major points, not minor details).

N.b. that Gavin’s more recent equivocation over Faketoshi does not alter the fact that he gave him a critical boost at a critical moment; and he does not seem terribly eager to try to stop the monster which he himself gave life.



For relative brevity, I will leave aside for now the question of how Gavin’s behaviour with the odious “Bitcoin Foundation” fits the foregoing argument.  Anyone else care to take that up?  If so, please keep it brief and relevant to the topic of showing how Gavin’s boost of Faketoshi was only a part of his consistent attempts to undermine Bitcoin.  If you really want to get into it, create a new thread focused on that topic—quote excerpts and link to it here.



The Same Standard Applies to Me

Let’s take the media-hyped 15-minutes-of-celebrity name of “Gavin Andresen” out of the picture.  And let’s make this personal, insofar as the foregoing argument hypothetically would apply to me, too, if I were to do as Gavin did.

Two years ago, I received the following endorsement of my technical competence:

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achow1012018-02-13Very knowledgeable about Bitcoin and cryptography related things. Frequently gives in-depth, constructive, and well though out answers on various topics.

If, tomorrow, I were to claim that Faketoshi “verified” a signature for me (!) on the same basis as his “verification” for Gavin, then that would leave only two realistic possibilities:  Either (1) I am maliciously lying with the intent to support Faketoshi in a scam, or (2) Bitcoin Core developer and technical forum moderator Andrew Chow is himself so incompetent that he said the foregoing about someone who doesn’t even know how properly to verify a digital signature.

What would Occam say about that?  —Would any sane person not accuse me of lying, and not question what motive I may have for abusing my technical reputation to support a scam?



Despite the strength of the foregoing argument, I need not hereby positively conclude the question whether Gavin acted from stupidity or malice.  For it is unnecessary to reach a conclusion either way:  Those are indeed the only options, and either one damns Gavin.

Wherefore I conclude:  Perennial fork-attacker Gavin Andresen is jointly responsible for having essentially created the Faketoshi scam, which would have fallen flat as a clown act if the so-called “Bitcoin Foundation Chief Scientist” had not wrongfully supported Craig Wright’s grand-scale identity theft against Satoshi Nakamoto.  Mr Andresen is untrustworthy.

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Another interesting discovery:
https://svskull.club/files/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.9.1.pdf

In 2013 CSW filed a statement of claim in the Supreme Court of NSW.

In that claim he claimed $28 million from W&K Defense research (Kleiman was the director) for research.

The company had been wound up by that time and it was "revived" by Uygen Nguyen

An officer of that company "J Wilson" then agreed on behalf of W&K Defense research to a settlement order.

It is interesting to note that the "contract" to the the department of homeland security was never awarded and Craig was notified of this in 2011.



















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If you are interested in the Gavin/CIA rabbit hole, you can get into some of my old topics:

Why Gavin is so desperate about his fork? Is he hiding something?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154636.msg12161977#msg12161977

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Since this XT drama began, I was wondering about Gavins desperate efford to force bigger blocksize, even after he obv. realized, that there is a strong resistance against this fork. I mean, he could have simply stepped back and wait for the right time to come up with his idea again. When the current blocksize really turns out to be problematic, then he would have a majority and a consensus.
 
Instead he is knowingly dividing/weakening the Bitcoin community (incl. himself) for his idea.

This behaviour doesn't seem appropriate to me. Is there something more behind it, than just a larger blocksize?

Tell me why Satoshi Nakamoto didn't spend a Satoshi from his 1 Mio BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1382380.0

Craig W. only claims to be Satoshi, because he knows the real Satoshi is dead?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2112829.0

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Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? 

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http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/nsw/NSWSC/2003/1011.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=%22demorgan%20information%22
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/nsw/NSWCA/2005/368.html?context=1;query=wright%20;mask_path=+au/cases/nsw/NSWCA

PARTIES:
Michael Ryan and  DeMorgan Information  Security Systems Pty Limited
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Craig Wright and Lynn Wright (2003-2005 Before bitcoin)

Craig claims he didn't send the email - it is a forgery by others.







Result = Wright held in contempt of court.


Australian Tax office investigation of Wright group of companies tax affairs.

Questionable evidence presented


How the Australian Tax office described it:




Liquidators report: https://www.inlineadvisory.com/app/uploads/D14-140526-Hotwire439AReport-BFK.pdf (Link does not have a valid security cert)

Result = Wright controlled company ordered to pay & put into liquidation by the ATO.
https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov.au/browsesearch-notices/notice-details/HOTWIRE-PREEMPTIVE-INTELLIGENCE-PTY-LTD-164068348/29dbb973-0a9a-4e8a-87b1-2acef61656fe
$1.7 million penalty imposed.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/revealed-the-ato-hit-suspected-bitcoin-creator-craig-steven-wrights-company-with-a-1-7-million-penalty-2015-12


Wright v W&K Research - New South Wales Supreme Court
Questionable evidence presented
Questionable representation by W&K


Explained here
Result = Two orders against W&K for approx $28 million each (Wright was a shareholder of W&K Research together with the late Dave Kleiman)


Kleiman v Wright

Craig claims he didn't send those emails they are a forgery by others.

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“Motion to compel people to apologise to me”?

One of Last of the V8s’ links eventually somehow led me to an exemplary demonstration of Faketoshi’s legal acumen.  Red boldface is mine; ordinary boldface and italics are as in the original fakery (so to speak):

https://web.archive.org/web/20190604133326/https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/satoshi-and-science/
Quote from: Craig Wright (2019-05-30)
In time, if I have to, I will work one by one through every person in the BTC community, until they all either wear orange suits, apologise, or disappear. No exceptions. [...]

The process of what’s going to happen is that I’m going to make people like Roger Ver, Vitalik Buterin, and the Core team stand up in court and formally apologise or be in contempt. They can work out how long you get to stay in prison when you’re in contempt and choose when they want to come out of the orange jumpsuit and apologise. You see, I don’t care whether you believe. Belief has nothing to do with science. You could say that you don’t like me and that in your opinion I haven’t given strong enough evidence, which sorts of things are legal and covered under free speech. Lies, defamation, and hate crime are not covered under free speech.

[...]

You get your day in court. You get to make claims about how I lied. Then, I get to show how you were spreading false information and that nothing you’re bringing up is true.

After doing so, you apologise. Such is how truth works. Such is how the legal system works.

How it works—really?  Where?  Is that “how the legal system works” in exactly the same sense that “Craig Wright invented Bitcoin”?  Or did he just tip his hand about jurisdictions in which he may potentially file frivolous lawsuits?

I pose that in the form of a question to the forum legal-eagles, who must understand my natural incredulity at the notion that judges be some finger-wagging schoolteachers who say, “Now, now, you must apologise—go sit in the corner wearing the (orange) dunce hat, until you say you are sorry.”  Of course, hereby only considering the point arguendo, courts in various places (apparently including Australia) may consider whether or not a defendant has apologised, as a factor mitigating or aggravating monetary damages for defamation; and judges in many if not most jurisdictions may enter injunctions to restrain defamatory speech under penalties for contempt.  But there is a world of difference between any of that, and ordering an apology, viz., ordering compulsory speech under penalty of some “remedial”* imprisonment of indefinite term.

(* In some jurisdictions, imprisonment to compel compliance with a judicial order is called “remedial”, in contradistinction to “punitive”, on the ostensible grounds that its purpose is to remediate an ongoing contempt, and not to punish the contemnor.  This logic is questionable at best, whereas indefinite imprisonment for stubbornness is in fact quite punishing, no matter what legal fiction may be applied.  Anyway, this is irrelevant to the curious question of how Faketoshi expects for judges to find his hated heretics in contempt in the first instance—not only as a factual matter whereas he is in fact lying, but also as a legal matter.  I would suggest that as a matter of law, Faketoshi’s argument would be less frivolous if he were to claim that all Faketoshi Deniers are insane, and seek orders committing them to mental institutions.  The Flat Earthers may have similar luck with that strategy, methinks:  People who believe that the ground beneath their feet is a giant ball rotating at high speed are obviously insane!)

I hesitate to call this a facial absurdity, only because defamation law varies widely, and I am not an international law expert (or even a lawyer).  I cannot be sure that some jurisdictons outside my legal reading may have extremely stupid laws that I would find abhorrent in principle.  (Happens all the time.)  I think that Faketoshi is probably just making this up as he goes along, per his usual custom;—falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, after all.  However, I cannot be sure of it here—not as I am sure that he is a liar and an identity thief and he is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

Again, that is considering the legal question arguendo (‘for the sake of argument’).  Even if such a jurisdiction exists, Faketoshi would need to prove his case there; and that would require a jurisdiction so corrupt and/or stupid that its courts could be “somehow” persuaded to doing tantamount to adjudging heliocentrists liable of heresy “defamation”.

And not as I can call facial absurdity on this—say what!?

Quote from: Craig Wright (2019-05-30)
Lies, defamation, and hate crime are not covered under free speech.

Putting aside my free speech principles against “hate” laws, just how does Faketoshi suppose himself to be a victim of a “hate crime”?  Is the class of Satoshi Imposters a protected group?  Perhaps a race or religion?  What about people who denied others’ suspicions that they were Satoshi?  Did Hal Finney commit a hate crime by denying his own Satoshihood?

Quote from: Craig Wright (2019-05-30)
Alternatively, the way I’m going to clean up the space is to force every single person involved in the space to either swear they are Satoshi and created Bitcoin or back down and apologise.

This requires no further comment for anybody who knows anything whatsoever about how laws actually work anywhere.  Or simple logic, for that matter.  Or—sanity.

By the way, I am impressed that gmaxwell has incurred such hatred; I must work harder!

Quote from: Craig Wright (2019-05-30)
...people like Greg Maxwell are the opposite of what Bitcoin creates...

O, what a prospect.  I shudder to imagine the glee with which “Dr.” Wright fancies this:  The Great Greg Maxwell forced to kneel and recant—no doubt whilst muttering beneath his breath, E pur si muove!



Speaking of Greg Maxwell, he just made an important post in another thread.  I will hereby excerpt only a part; I recommend reading the whole thing:

And yet, as we are today Gavin has still never fully retracted his endorsement. He left it at an 'I'm not sure what happened, maybe I was fooled. It doesn't matter anyways'-- something which wright's promoters continues to use to promote wright's legitimacy.

Probably the most significant thing I can say on this subject is that *none* of the core-devs upon hearing Gavin endorsed the guy thought this was at all evidence of the claims-- even before seeing the publication of the obviously faked signature.  The idea that Gavin was hacked, was being coerced, was being paid off, was a scammed idiot, or was attempting a desperate attempt at taking over Bitcoin after he was unable to convince people through the merit of his arguments were all considered serious possibilities. We discussed the possibility that wright got his hands on of an early block private key that was mined by someone other than satoshi, and was planning on exploiting the ambiguity about who mined what-- and that Gavin fell for that because of one of the might have fallen for it due to the aforementioned reasons. The only people that thought his endorsement was persuasive were people that hadn't worked with him on technical matters. The people who would know best how to weigh the evidence of that endorsement didn't find it remotely persuasive. And in the aftermath, when Wright's public signature turned out to be fake Gavin's response wasn't to adopt complete transparency and help take out and protect the Bitcoin community from the guy that had supposedly conned him. Take that for what you will.



[I will be replying on that thread to something else that gmaxwell said there.  For the benefit of those following this thread and not that one, I will edit this space with a cross-reference and a brief quotation of my reply.]

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February 18, 2020, 12:23:20 PM
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Everything must be doubted otherwise proven true with sufficient evidence. Impostors should be spotted and called out because if not, they might be more destruction resulted because of their scheme. In this era of modern technology, everyone must be keen of the information they are being bombarded with and always do research regarding the legitimacy of each data in order to prevent chaos of fake information.


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February 18, 2020, 12:35:27 PM
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i have read this topic from our local section since it was translated and thats is why i come to research about this case.
and really got interested because for how many century the pretender got to live with the life of the victim Anastasia.
what i do Hope is we wont get that Long to prove that Craig S.Wright is a fake Satoshi even without finding the true Satoshi for the answer.









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Teşekkürler, mindrust!  Craig Wright’s scam is now correctly identified in the Turkish language as identity theft against Bitcoin’s founder:

Bitcoin'in anonim kurucusunun kimliği bir sahtekar tarafından çalındı.

Craig Wright bir kimlik hırsızıdır:

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Hvala, Pmalek!  In Projekat Anastazija: Bitcoineri Protiv Krađe Identiteta, the essence of Wright’s wrong is now condemned from Croatia:

Identitet anonimnog osnivača Bitcoina ukraden je od strane jednog prevaranta.

Craig Wright je lopov koji mu je ukrao identitet:

(Thanks also to Rikafip for Bitcoin: Društveni Fenomen.)

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"Project Anastasia: Bitcoiners Against ID Theft

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215128.0

Any ID claiming to be #satoshi #nakamoto must put up a publicly verifiable signed message or shut up!

This is how identity works in #Bitcoin =#BTC

#SNTrustChain #ProjectAnastasiaBTC #LNTrustChain3"


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One thing I have to say here is that we don't know real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto,
so in fact we can say that Craig Wrong created new fake identity, and community named him Faketoshi.

In case of Anastasia we knew her identity, and that is not the case here.
Craig Wrong is still a thief and a liar,  don't get me 'Wrong' Smiley

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