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April 05, 2019, 06:54:10 AM
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Right. You don't understand how commit fees work. They are held in a temporary balance in case the channel is closed when both parties are not online, and not necessarily permanently deducted from the user's balance. It's not new:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8scfr2/lightning_channel_commit_fees/

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Pretty lame attempt at FUD. But at least you are doing it in the right place.

Meanwhile the capacity of LN is up 43% in the last 30 days. Obviously its users aren't having a problem with it. You have a problem with it because it renders BSV irrelevant.

Yeah, 5 million dollars, it’s up there with YoBit.

BSV is ready for global scale adoption here and now.

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We cannot educate all the trolls - the real use cases and economics will sort that out for free.

Time to do things ...

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Satoshi Nakamoto is an amalgamation of 富永 仲基 (Tominaga Nakamoto) and Ash Ketchum (サトシ; Satoshi).

The name wasn’t something that I spent months and months on deciding, and it doesn’t mean anything related to what you see on the wikis. Rather, it was an attempt at privacy.

I’d met Tim May back in the 80s when I was involved with DECUS under a number of SunOS groups. There were of course the black sheep groups such as the cypherpunks. For a start, I understand that anarchy is a utopian pipe-dream. Unfortunately, when you get groups of people who have little interaction with the real world, they are starting to believe stories and myths of a society that can exist without order. Worse, they start to believe in computerised order, the singularity, and that code is law. A few of us got on, but for the most part I was ridiculed by people who refused to understand that risk is a probabilistic ideal and can never be perfected and removed. More importantly, I was ridiculed by people with no idea of people or society.

There is a lot to be said for a classical Western education.

The moniker, Satoshi Nakamoto, was simply a way of being able to work and have some privacy in my life.

It was both a homage to Tominaga Nakamoto and a play on the second. The Economist had an article in 1988, and it featured the phoenix of rising money; in order to make some fun out of it, I used Ash (aka Satoshi) from the Pokemon fame.


Funny enough, most of the lawyers I speak to get it. When you actually explain the technology behind Bitcoin, those who have a grounding in law and economics start to see the system. Privacy and anonymity are polar opposites. I am Wesleyan. If you understand that, you’ll start to understand my philosophy on wealth. If you read Andrew Carnegie’s The Gospel of Wealth, and not just the title without moving forward, you may start to understand my long-term plans. Unlike Andrew Carnegie, I don’t plan to retire in my 50s, nor in my 60s, nor in my 70s, nor even in my 80s.

There is a lot of work remaining to get Bitcoin to where I want it to be. I expect at least 30 years of work to do so. At that point, I am hoping it will be sufficiently advanced so that others can carry it forward. Having said so, within the year it will be locked with the protocol fixed and the asinine changes removed.

From here, once it is set in stone, it will remain set in stone.

Code is not law. Those lazy of thought and mind enough to believe that they can abrogate the responsibility that they have to the society they live in deserve all they get. In a democracy, you have the right to seek change. It does not mean people will agree with you. If you don’t like the law, work to change it. The great men of history are not great because they sought to throw away the law, they are great as they sought to align it to freedom.

It is simple to say that things should be different.

It is difficult to stand up and take the brunt of the attacks that come to one who stands against the status quo. It is simple to say things should be different, but it is incredibly hard to have the courage to stand up and fight for change. There are many ways to seek change in our society.

Anarchy is not one of them and never can be. It is simply the path to destruction. It is the path to totalitarian control, a path that those who promote it seek. They do so as wolves leading lambs.

I knew that eventually I would no longer be able to be secret. I knew that my past and my involvement would start to come out, but I had hoped for a longer period of time. The irony that few saw is concealed in the name.

Tominaga was a merchant and philosopher. He wrote during the Tokugawa period of Japan.

The time for remaining in the shadows has passed. Tominaga taught us that “concealment is the beginning of the habit of lying and stealing.”

He was an anti-traditionalist, a logician, and an early capitalist in the days of mercantilism. He once said, “our age today is one of corruption by liars and robbers.” We remain in such an age. Money has been corrupted. We create synthetic systems of synthetic systems designed with nothing more than a goal to move numbers between systems. Money from Main Street to Wall Street and away from where it’s needed.

We see the same again in what we call crypto.

The frauds and the charlatans seek to pump false gains, and they say that what they do is about democratising freedom, and in fact they seek to remove the controls that protect the average person so that they can better engage in their Ponzi schemes and scams. Nobody wins by having ICOs. They are no different to the dematerialised penny shares that floated around the Internet in the 90s as web IPOs. Unfortunately, all too many of us are too young to remember or were not exposed enough to the Internet at the time.

People know very little about my life. My belief system aligns well with Nakamoto Tominaga’s. He promoted the doctrine of simplicity and honesty. It is not, as some such as Gandhi have promoted, the abandonment of technology but rather the use of technology as capital. Rather than seeking simply to escape from work, we find ways to improve what we are doing and extend it, to create more, to build, and to evolve.

The irony of those attacking and calling what I’m doing a lie is that they do not even seem to understand the value of truth.

I always liked the Japanese way of thinking, the only philosophical theories of the Indian and Chinese Buddhists too profound and abstract to infiltrate into the minds and thoughts of the common people within early Japan. It led to a simplification but also, for quite some time, a difference in how intellectuals were perceived. As with the Roman Republic, the people at the time were not anti-intellectual but rather avoided the trap of intellectual society as they created based on logic and simple truths.

Tominaga was the Eastern Voltaire.

Nakamoto always said, “concealment is the start of lying and stealing.” I will say, anonymity in its truest form is the heart of crime and deception. Those seeking to tell you that anonymity is in any way like privacy are seeking to draw you into the shadows. They are the wolves who seek your fleece.

To create Bitcoin, I used the very system of thought it is designed to collapse. Those with socialist tendencies, and yes, anarchy is in all forms aligned to socialism, tend to think in terms of religious mysticism. If you have read Nakamoto Tominaga’s surviving works, you may come to understand the same. All of what I have said and done is hidden in plain sight. Such was the nature of my company, Panoopticrypt. It means, all that is hidden.

When you understand the difference between privacy and anonymity and how the latter destroys the former, you start to understand the deceptive call that the mystic makes on society in the pervasive and insidious call to a utopia.

Although I liked Tim, I knew in the 90s that I needed to find something else. I knew it would be my life goal, after reading Wei Dai’s juvenile and ill-conceived call for b-money:

I am fascinated by Tim May’s crypto-anarchy. Unlike the communities traditionally associated with the word “anarchy”, in a crypto-anarchy the government is not temporarily destroyed but permanently forbidden and permanently unnecessary. It’s a community where the threat of violence is impotent because violence is impossible, and violence is impossible because its participants cannot be linked to their true names or physical locations.
Bitcoin was designed to scale to create something more than the casino that is finance. It is not the exchange that people called the market that allows growth in the creation of capital but rather the exchange of goods between individuals for consumption. A market is not the casino we call the exchange. Such lies need to end.

My revolution is not cypherpunk.

I took all they had, and I created something more. Bitcoin destroys anonymity in all its forms. It allows privacy, takes all that such people sought to do, their foolhardy desire to create a utopia, and changes it allowing Main Street, those that seek to work and create. The proletariat. The middle class. The average person seeking to create a life. It builds a society for them.

It is nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune but as you take arms and oppose them. Not to die or to sleep, not to end. To see not calamity and long life, the whips and scorns of time are hard and challenge the patient merit as the unworthy take acts of pale thought against us.

The bare bodkin is insufficient to pierce the armour of the man with a passion to change the system corrupting us. Social media need no longer make conscious cowards of the soul, for when we go forward we will know that those who seek to attack us must face reality and cannot hide in the shadows of the great pith and little movement.

In the present world of finance, what Tominaga would have called a world of decadence, a place where many people are cheating and stealing and creating ICOs, it is intolerable that in allowing those who teach the lies, the utopian view that code is law and that a world can exist without order, we should let it occur and not stand to oppose it. Those people who say that they are bringing freedom as they seek what they call a democratisation of finance protect the corruption that seeps through it rather than oppose vices.

They all imitate a habit of secrecy. They create rules and hierarchies. They enact systems that are deplorable but operate through secret instructions and techno-mystical religious dogma designed not to create, not to build capital but to enable the transmission of secrecy. They tell you they seek truth, yet in reality they obscure and they cheat.

Bitcoin ends all of it. Not in minutes, not in days, and not quickly. None of it occurs in “Internet time.”

The path forward is already set in stone. And right now, I don’t care whether you believe me. I have my own way of doing things, and most importantly, the first part is to understand that code is not law.

In the period coming up in the growth and development of what I’m creating, you come to understand who I am and what I have created and why. In time, there won’t even be any doubt, but it is my time and my way to choose.


Most importantly, I’m not going to do anything in any way that aligns with the lies that are taught by the crypto community. I am going to teach you how flawed, how insidious, and how evil the heart of code as law really is. I’m going to teach you about the frauds that they propagate, the lies that they use, and the totalitarian ends that they seek to bring as they try to enslave you.

The end of the long road that one steps on in seeking a world where code acts as law is one without humanity. Code is inflexible, there is no heart or soul in code. The strength of the law is that it can be flexible. It is not fixed and unalterable, and can bend.

I was a part of the movement that was the cypherpunks. Not because I agreed but because it needed to be stopped. When you understand Bitcoin, when you understand a sound system of money that acts to allow exchange privately but with an immutable evidence trail, you will start to understand why I created Bitcoin.

I created Bitcoin to ensure that the world the ignorant seek to create, the totalitarian utopia by those seeking a world based on an inflexible code-is-law algorithmic system, never evolves.

I spent 20 years designing Bitcoin. I started in 1998, and went through more iterations than I can ever hope to imagine and remember before finally coming up with something that worked. Welcome to freedom; it comes through a system that consumes utopians and spits them out. The system within Bitcoin is stronger than you believe, and it was designed to not work in many other ways. It takes naïve idealism, and crushes it if it does not evolve into something of considered thought.

It no longer matters whether you like it; Bitcoin was carefully considered, and no blockchain-based system ever allows you to create the totalitarian utopia that is the ultimate dystopia of a world where code is law and order is crushed in anarchy.

From : https://medium.com/@craig_10243/satoshi-nakamoto-a7c4cf21253e






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International patent of Nchain Holding (Bitcoin Satoshi Vision BSV) applies to all Blockchains competitors:
(BTC-ETH-LTC-XRP-EOS-XLM-ADA-TRON-XMR-DASH-MIOTA-NEO-ONT-MKR-XEM-XTZ-ZET-VET-DOGE-BATE-WAVE-QTUM-BTG- other ........ also all others tokens)

WO: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2017145048A1/en
US: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190066228A1/en
CN: https://patents.google.com/patent/CN109314636A/en
GB: https://patents.google.com/patent/GB2562622A/en
KR: https://patents.google.com/patent/KR20180115768A/en
EP: https://patents.google.com/patent/EP3420669A1/en


This is BSV. Satoshi's original vision, now produced and in application  >>> This is the future evolution of Bitcoin BTC is BSV. Nchain Holding (BSV) have filed more than 700 different patents with the World Blockchain division and others.



Source: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2017145048A1/en





Very well statement
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April 08, 2019, 09:48:04 AM
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In the meantime cobra's comments killed LN (thread)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4638321.msg50504914;topicseen#msg50504914

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Bitcoin mining migrating from China to the United States
https://cryptoslate.com/bitcoin-mining-migrating-china-united-states
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Dr. Craig Wright says he is Satoshi and wishes to address the CFTC.

Official letter on:
https://comments.cftc.gov/PublicComments/ViewComment.aspx?id=61969

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Wright explained that he would make himself available for questioning by the TCRC, whether to discuss this DR or any subject related to crypto - currencies or blockchains. He told the CFTC that the blockchain can work in conjunction with "existing legislation, laws and rules" and that anyone who claims otherwise is committing fraud.

By signing his answer, Wright makes it clear that he is not afraid to appear before the whole world and make his true self known. He concluded by stating: "I am prepared to testify under oath".



i just thought it 'd be fun to juxtapose with this snippet from the ongoing wright/kleimann case


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Dr. Craig Wright says he is Satoshi and wishes to address the CFTC.

Official letter on:
https://comments.cftc.gov/PublicComments/ViewComment.aspx?id=61969

..

Wright explained that he would make himself available for questioning by the TCRC, whether to discuss this DR or any subject related to crypto - currencies or blockchains. He told the CFTC that the blockchain can work in conjunction with "existing legislation, laws and rules" and that anyone who claims otherwise is committing fraud.

By signing his answer, Wright makes it clear that he is not afraid to appear before the whole world and make his true self known. He concluded by stating: "I am prepared to testify under oath".



i just thought it 'd be fun to juxtapose with this snippet from the ongoing wright/kleimann case

https://i.imgur.com/6chlU0I.jpg


You distort my dear, here is the original quote with the source, appreciate it.

Dr. Craig Wright says he is Satoshi and wishes to address the CFTC.

Official letter on:
https://comments.cftc.gov/PublicComments/ViewComment.aspx?id=61969

here is the transcript of the CG post: Craig Wright, Chief Scientist of nChain and Intellectual of Bitcoin SV (BSV), is not satisfied with the path taken by crypto-currencies in general. In an effort to help reorient the cryptographic vision and bring things back into order with what they were originally intended to be, he became more vivid by making public the fact that he is, in reality, Satoshi Nakamoto. It is now formalized by the US Commodity Futures Traiding Commission (CFTC) in response to a request for seizure (RFI) from the Commission regarding encryption assets.

In particular, the CFTC request for information refers to Federal Register (FR) 64563, Request for Contribution on the Mechanics of Cryptographic Assets and Markets, published on December 17, 2018. In this document, the Commission states that it is seeking information that could better help'to inform the Commission of its understanding of the technology, mechanics and markets of virtual currencies beyond Bitcoin, including here Ether and its use on the Ethereum network'.

Wright responded to the request for information by opening his remarks by stating: "This is a generalized response to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, a request for information on the mechanics of cryptographic assets and markets. My name is Craig Wright and, under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, I completed a project I started in 1997 that was submitted to the Australian government in part as part of an AusIndustry project registered with the Department of Innovation under the name BlackNet.

"The amount of erroneous and misleading information that has been spread about Bitcoin and any derived blockchain-based system (such as Ethereum) has pushed my choice to become more public. The system I created was designed in part to fight fraud in the best possible way with any technology. The lack of understanding of how blockchains work has led to widespread misinformation and the spread of old scams. Many ex-USENET scams and web IPOs have been spread with re-badging as an initial offer of ICO coins. ”

Wright explained that he would make himself available for questioning by the TCRC, whether to discuss this DR or any subject related to crypto - currencies or blockchains. He told the CFTC that the blockchain can work in conjunction with "existing legislation, laws and rules" and that anyone who claims otherwise is committing fraud.

By signing his answer, Wright makes it clear that he is not afraid to appear before the whole world and make his true self known. He concluded by stating: "I am prepared to testify under oath".


https://coingeek.com/dr-craig-wright-affirms-hes-satoshi-wants-address-cftc/




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About Craig Wright: at least this guy is acting honestly and bravely.
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Many crypto people should take an example about Craig Wright instead of sucking their droppings and then spitting into a world ventilation system.

read and understand whatever you want.

Another very interesting reading on BSV: Why the protocol is set ?

Bitcoin is only decentralised when power is removed from developers and others who can change the protocol. That is the point. The argument about decentralisation is about decentralisation of power.

The only method to maintain decentralisation of power is to set the protocol and lock it. It must be set in stone.

When, as with BTC (SegWit Core) or ETH (Ethereum post DAO), you end up with a few developers who have the ability to alter the protocol, you have the power to impact a large number of people — which is not decentralised as claimed but rather highly controlled.

The same matter of course is what the developers seek to cover and hide. They want power, they want control, and they achieve the same by misleading others into believing that the protocol needs to change.

An example scenario
To discuss the matter, I will explain by example of a scenario what could occur. Let us say that two individuals have a long-term relationship and an investment. As a result, they construct a two-of-two wallet. Alice and Bob must both sign.

We face a fairly standard two-of-two multi-sig address.


Let us propose that both Alice and Bob are through such a method preparing a gift for their grandchildren. Their grandchildren have only been born recently, and Alice and Bob have two grandchildren who are less than one year old. Alice and Bob have decided that they want their grandchildren to have access to money that they were investing for them — but not until their grandchildren turn 25. It is actually a scenario that can be problematic in law. It is an area where parents and grandchildren have decided to attack the concept of common-law trusts and argued that they should be allowed to access their money earlier, and in some jurisdictions, courts have allowed it. There are ways around it that would enable blocking funds until the individuals turn 25, but doing so can be expensive and then difficult to change. Bitcoin solves such an issue.

Let us say that Alice and Bob are in their 80s. They do not know whether they will see their grandchildren turn 25, and even today living to one’s hundreds remains unlikely.

Alice and Bob create a laminated paper wallet for each child. It is stored in a safe deposit box.

Alice and Bob want to ensure that their children cannot pressure them into spending the money if something happens to the other grandparent. They know their children can be manipulative, want access to the funds, and would seek to gain control if anything happened to either Alice or Bob.

Consequently, Alice and Bob deposit an initial amount of 100 bitcoin into the multi-sig address. Alice and Bob decide jointly that they will not spend more than 50 bitcoin of the joint address ever, and promise to leave the rest to their grandchildren.

To ensure the pact, Alice and Bob sign a series of nLockTime transactions. They don’t want their children to know what they are. They also want to lock it so that if something happens, the other cannot be pressured into altering the trust.

Alice and Bob sign a future-dated nLockTime transaction for 50 bitcoin. Alice assigns it to Bob and Bob assigns it to Alice. It is set for six months from now, and every three months, Bob and Alice update the process discarding the original transaction.

Bob and Alice trust each other, so they do not see the process as an issue.

Bob and Alice also sign 25 bitcoin to each grandchild from the untouched 50 bitcoin and 25 bitcoin to each grandchild from the 50 bitcoin that they have an earlier time lock on. The time lock is set to 25 years from now for each grandchild.

Things change…
Six years have passed, and Alice and Bob now have two more grandchildren. They now alter the process to assign 12.5 bitcoin to each grandchild from each of the two lots of 50 bitcoin — which means potentially 25 bitcoin for each grandchild if Bob and Alice do not need to access the other 50 bitcoin. The lock time here is set to expire allowing access to the coins 19 years from the date.

Two years from the same date, with 17 years to go before the grandchildren are old enough, Bob passes away leaving Alice. Alice can no longer alter the pact that she and Bob set up, even if she is pressured by her children to do so. So now, there are four transactions that pay 12.5 bitcoin to each of the grandchildren which cannot be altered and reconfigured, so that each grandchild can only access the funds when they turn 25. As such, two of the transactions are configured to be accessed in 17 years and the other two in about 22 years when the respective children turn 25.

With Bob gone and Alice’s health and wealth on the decline, Alice needs to access some of the funds. She can never draw down on the 50 bitcoin that had been left for the grandchildren no matter what pressure would come. She can gain access in a few months to the coins left by Bob assigned to her. The respective locked transaction becomes valid in three months, and Alice is able to pay for the care she needs. As Bob assigned the transaction to her, she can now sign, too, completing the transaction. It had been signed so that Alice can now move control over 50 bitcoin to her address that is a single-key address she controls.

During the same time, bitcoin has become valuable, and Alice’s greedy children pressure her for access. Bob and Alice were afraid so, and feared that in their old age the pressure from their children might lead them towards giving up control of their money. Alice pays 20 bitcoin to cover the expenses she will need in order to enjoy the rest of life, and leaves 30 in her control.

She signs a time-lock transaction for the 30 bitcoin dividing it up between her grandchildren. Each of them will receive 5 bitcoin when they turn 25. She leaves the other 10 bitcoin to her children, and destroys her private key. She tells her children, who are angry and upset because she has time-locked the payment so that her two children can only access the amount of bitcoin in the locked transaction 10 years from now.

Her children do their best to try and take control of the assets that Alice used to control, but as she has overwritten the keys, they can no longer do so. Similarly, when Alice and Bob’s mothers were both alive, they too set up a custodial-wallet system associated with the children. Each of the time-locked transactions to the children are configured to transfer coins to addresses that the children own, but only when the time block is validly released.

Once the grandchildren turn 18, their parents will no longer be able to pressure anyone into giving the money to them. Alice’s children will have to make do with the comparatively small amount she has left them and let the grandchildren inherit when they turn 25.

Two years pass, and Alice also passes away.

Each of Alice and Bob’s children now have a locked transaction that they cannot access for another eight years.

The four grandchildren are able to recover their bitcoin by spending the locked transaction as they each turn 25.

Custodial services exist in such a world to ensure that no data can be lost. They use an encrypted copy of the locked transaction, and store it on-chain. Nobody can see the transaction unless they know the details to access it, and yet it is perfectly secure.

Unlike on-chain solutions such as CLTV that are public, the nLockTime transaction field allows Alice and Bob to construct a trust that remains secret. They used to be common in countries such as England, and allowed people to plan their estates without having to tell everyone what they own. In other words, they allow privacy.

Unfortunately, the lies that have been propagated by a bunch of people seeking to make a drug coin have led people to not understand Bitcoin’s strengths. Not everything should be on-chain. Importantly, even though Alice and Bob created keys for their children and grandchildren, they maintain the ability to control their own finances and secession without allowing others to see what they wanted to do.

It is what Bitcoin is.
It is the strength and benefit of Bitcoin. If anyone tells you otherwise, they are either ignorant of what Bitcoin is or rather disingenuous.

Here lies the reason why the protocol needs to be fixed and set in stone. If the protocol changes during the described period, then everything Bob and Alice have planned falls apart. Let us say that there is a major protocol change one year after Alice dies. The signature format is altered, and some of the opcodes that Bob and Alice used are now rewritten. The locked transactions are no longer valid. Alice and Bob have passed away, and hence have not been able to sign the transaction so that bitcoin is lost. A bunch of developers have altered the protocol and destroyed their wealth.

To be money, to be a source of contracting and wealth, Bitcoin needs stability.

Developers will tell you that they need to be able to change the protocol. It is a lie. It is a means to grasp power. If the developers can change the protocol, they have the power over the system and can alter everyone’s wealth in the system. They will tell you how bad miners are; but miners can only follow certain rules, and cannot change the protocol.

A miner can reject a block that they do not want to process and risk losing money in the orphaning of anything they win after doing so. A miner can decide whether a block is valid with a thousand transactions or a million transactions and to risk losing money to enforce his decision but cannot change the protocol. If the block cap is set to 128 MB, it has no impact on the protocol. The transaction that Alice and Bob signed remains valid. A transaction signed on a 20-year-old version of Bitcoin software will have remained valid.

For the developers to alter the protocol, they need to fool users and the system into accepting a new and replacing the old software being used.

If a transaction cannot be saved offline for 50 years and then introduced later, the protocol has changed. Bitcoin requires stability in the protocol to be money. It is not just the limits of 21 million bitcoin, and it has nothing to do with the capacity of blocks; the protocol requires that transactions written now remain valid in the future.

Bitcoin (BSV) will have all of the initial opcodes fixed and re-enabled this year. Once this happens, a transaction signed in 2020 within an nLockTime and set for 50 years from then will be valid in 2070. Such is the strength of Bitcoin.

The same will not be the case with SegWit coin (BTC) or any of the other altcoins.

The reason is simple: Unlike Bitcoin, the alternative systems are about developer control. They are a small group of people seeking to control and alter the protocol in Bitcoin because they want to control the monetary and contract system that Bitcoin can create.

Bitcoin is not about giving power to a few developer wizards. It is about taking power away from anyone wanting to change the monetary system. It is removing power. Bitcoin stops anyone from altering the system. It is the strength of Bitcoin. And to achieve such an end, the protocol must be set in stone.

If a developer can change Bitcoin such that a transaction written now will not be valid in a year, 10 years, or even 50 years, it is not Bitcoin.

https://medium.com/@craig_10243/why-the-protocol-is-set-7db4f764c97c
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April 12, 2019, 07:13:06 AM
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About Craig Wright: at least this guy is acting honestly and bravely.

did you miss this bit?





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sorry cant find original atm,
is from recent transcript of court case kleimann vs wright

This is just one side out of the middle - why u want to prejudge here ?



This shitcoin is delisted from Binance. Jbear probably is crying in a corner right now.  Grin

https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1116563034476957699


I'd like him to remove BcashABC too but I guess it'll be the next one if they keep that Bcash is bitcoin thing going.

hm - decent industries all had (Keep) delisted BTC ...  what's ur point here ?

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April 12, 2019, 07:54:05 AM
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Jimmy Nguyen: Bitcoin SV is about a viable blockchain ecosystem
https://coingeek.com/jimmy-nguyen-bitcoin-sv-is-about-a-viable-blockchain-ecosystem
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April 12, 2019, 05:55:52 PM
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I love the fear towards BSV right now, great publicity. I’m bullish.


Worried about my trust rating? I am too. Bitcointalk users ‘Lauda’ and ‘gmaxwell’ have abused their superior powers in trust system to align their views with the ‘correct views.’ In no legal system in any jurisdiction do we have a definition for what Bitcoin is, they do not have the power to tell us what it is based on the rule of law.
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April 13, 2019, 05:18:27 AM
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Things and trolls are getting sorted out

https://coinrivet.com/calvin-ayre-an-apology



I am Satoshi Nakamoto. Don't listen to anyone

Bitcoin SV - is an Original Bitcoin!


This make sense in Bitcoin Satoshi Vision thread.

The original version worked fine until a lot of  no Satoshis tried to be wannabees and messed it up.  Speculators helped a lot.

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April 13, 2019, 05:33:09 AM
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Bitcoin SV and the roadmap to Genesis
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-sv-and-the-roadmap-to-genesis
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Restoring licence incoming

https://github.com/bitcoin-sv/bitcoin-sv/pull/61/commits/6a6db4da832a49a2a8c8ae768f6e82f2a6ef4887



The original version worked fine
Original version is not worked fine until block sizes was not increased


Original version had no cap on blocksize  ( except inherent 32MB for network packages)

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I love the fear towards BSV right now, great publicity. I’m bullish.

How much have you personally invested in BSV? More than zero, or zero?

Things and trolls are getting sorted out

https://coinrivet.com/calvin-ayre-an-apology

A media source nobody's ever heard of issues an apology for an article nobody read. That's great. Those girls don't have to be "pre teen" for him to be guilty of child abuse. 13, 14, 15, 16, and even up to 17 are considered minors in many countries.

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Bitcoin SV - is an Original Bitcoin!


"Anyone" includes you too, right? Don't worry, not listening. But your claim does hold as much water as CSW's.

Thats ur english

https://medium.com/@cryptoshoppe/op-ed-anonymity-is-the-shield-of-cowards-ce4fd67d3994



Nice Bitcoin content

https://youtu.be/xSd1fIqbOm8





SPV works

https://medium.com/@craig_10243/patent-wars-24929b73f381


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April 14, 2019, 12:14:58 PM
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I love the fear towards BSV right now, great publicity. I’m bullish.

How much have you personally invested in BSV? More than zero, or zero?

Things and trolls are getting sorted out

https://coinrivet.com/calvin-ayre-an-apology

Please don’t bring this shit here, this is a serious accusation, not a game

I am Satoshi Nakamoto. Don't listen to anyone

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"Anyone" includes you too, right? Don't worry, not listening. But your claim does hold as much water as CSW's.

I have personally invested ‘more than zero’ into Bitcoin SV.

Worried about my trust rating? I am too. Bitcointalk users ‘Lauda’ and ‘gmaxwell’ have abused their superior powers in trust system to align their views with the ‘correct views.’ In no legal system in any jurisdiction do we have a definition for what Bitcoin is, they do not have the power to tell us what it is based on the rule of law.
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April 15, 2019, 02:59:59 PM
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Lol CZ will do what he says, and BCHSV is not an exception. Despite being listed on many major exchanges, being delist from Binance will make SV prices much lower.

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April 15, 2019, 04:35:36 PM
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Good night Sweet Prince
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April 15, 2019, 05:58:41 PM
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Today Binance and Shapeshift delisted BSV,
And Kraken asking in a pool if they should delist BSV.
Now, independently if BSV is a scam and if CW is Satoshi or not, this seems to be coordinated to manipulate the price.
An exchange do not control the price, is not a market for a coin so it dsnt matter if get listed or delisted, the real value is on using the coin.
Now, back to the markets, if more exchanges continue to delist BSV the price should keep drooping right?
And BSV will have its own exchange by the end of the week, FloatSV with the collaboration of OkEX.
I am not a BSV, BTC, BCH lover or hater, i am here just for the trading, and how to profit from things like this.
I believe that BSV price will continue to drop and then will go back where it was yesterday.
I also wander if all this BSV drama is because something else is going on and they want a diversion.
Keep an eye on markets, this is pure market manipulation.

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April 15, 2019, 08:01:27 PM
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13 post for BSV are removed in less than 4 minutes by Bitcointalk moderator about BSV tread, the continuous censorship! it's outrageous.

If you observe Binance:

it's clearly market manipulation, he names BCHSV for BSV. That alone is a misnomer. I think Asia has noticed the legitimacy of the Nchain patents for BSV, that there is a FUD to make the prices fall and buy BSV en masse. After BSV will have to start again on the rise. It's typical manipulation.

Kraken exchange will follow because they are the "little poodle of China" The comments are overwhelming, he totally slanders and spits on BSV developers, this guys are a poop sucker #madeinchina.

Let us be patient and observe......

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April 15, 2019, 08:11:14 PM
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same for me several posts of this thread are deleted by the moderator ! the censorship is there

For Binance CEO: The guy totally erased the twitts that incriminated his defamation! That's the honesty that this cardboard CEO represents in all his splendor as a toilet unblocker.

https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/111760685312111175552
https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/111760905603257575489
https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/111656303434476957699

Here is a Twitter copy capture screen before deletion (thanks Nico)

https://ibb.co/n1b7CgK
https://ibb.co/0Zj63RN
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