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[nutildah]

my prop bet for this game: Bucs ml + Brown Anytime score+ Brady 2+ pass TD total odds 3.78

So close... Brown did have a good game, just not as good as you were hoping. I have to say, its "good" to see him back in action (despite all his drama and the roadblocks created by his personality). He's gonna be a great asset for TB so long as he can stop himself from doing anything too stupid off field.

Seahawks ML @2.30

I thought for sure Seattle would be the favorites on this game, but nope. Even as a Rams fan I think this is a solid bet... though Rams did just take the lead again in the 1st quarter.

Tua Tagvailoa (sp) seems to be off to another good start, beating the Chargers 14-0 thus far. He's gonna be fun to watch for the rest of the season.

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[xxjumperxx]

Wtf happened to them Eagles?
It was a collapse on both sides of the Ball! Defense was oit of sync! Offense was out sync! And why did the go for the 2point conversion? Kicking the extra point would have made them trail by 3. Terrible coaching. Bad bad game!

[tyKiwanuka]

Terrible coaching. Bad bad game!

Hehe, Pedersen does this all the time and I kind of like it, because I think it has value, but at that point it was really a bad decision with no urgency at all

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Looks like I will lose all my bets for today. Panthers were only good for one quarter and Bridgewater really must be the most QB boring all-time. One can also feel, that he is still kind of scared after his terrible inury.
Steelers show no mercy with Bengals and I don't believe Seattly can make a comeback from being 13-23 down early in Q4.

Nice game by Alex Smith today, too bad they lost it in the end with a 59yd FG by Prater as time expired

[morvillz7z]

https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/status/1328133052762091526/photo/1

Murray to Hopkins hail mary though, sheesh! 

So close... Brown did have a good game, just not as good as you were hoping. I have to say, its "good" to see him back in action (despite all his drama and the roadblocks created by his personality). He's gonna be a great asset for TB so long as he can stop himself from doing anything too stupid off field.

I didn't watch the game, but too bad he didn't get that TD that i needed. Brady was looking for him, 8 targets today, that's not bad, second after Mike Evans.

Rest of my prop bets also lost (some were close others not so much), i'm left with this 6 acca picking the favorites to win, and need Baltimore to win! They get back Ingram, so please let me have this one...

[bbc.reporter]

@morvillz7z. Bad loss for the Bills. They were winning the game.

In any case, NFL experts why is there only -7 handicap for the Ravens? There should be -10.5, I reckon.

[South Park]

Wtf happened to them Eagles?
It was a collapse on both sides of the Ball! Defense was oit of sync! Offense was out sync! And why did the go for the 2point conversion? Kicking the extra point would have made them trail by 3. Terrible coaching. Bad bad game!

Welcome to the beautiful and senseless world of Sabermetrics! Baseball fans have suffered those fools for a long time and now it seems no content with ruining baseball they are coming to football to try to ruin it too. On paper it makes sense, now that the extra point is not a sure thing and assuming you have an equal or higher than 50/50 chance to make the 2 point conversion then over the long term you will score more points by always going for the 2 point conversion.

But those numbers should only be a guide, they do not take into account the psychological effects on the players, they know that getting the point there puts them at a FG distance from the NYG and by failing then now they know they have to score a TD which is a lot harder, especially if the offence has been having problems all season, so they get discouraged, is it surprising they did not score at all after failing the 2 point conversion? Not really.

[xxjumperxx]

What do we have in check for the vikings/bears game guys?
Im looking at the Bears right now and gladly will take them 3 Points.
Lets see, I see a low scoring game tonight.

What opinions do you guys have?

[vella85]

It was another rough Sunday for me as I only hit with the Browns winning but the rest of the game I bet on all lost. I was not expecting the Ravens to lose to the Pats and my Eagles let me down so we won't talk about that game lol. I do like the Bears tonight to cover the spread at +3.5 Good luck everyone.

[ralle14]

It was another rough Sunday for me as I only hit with the Browns winning but the rest of the game I bet on all lost. I was not expecting the Ravens to lose to the Pats and my Eagles let me down so we won't talk about that game lol. I do like the Bears tonight to cover the spread at +3.5 Good luck everyone.

Same I was up about 3-5 units during the afternoon games then blew it all on the Ravens game.

I'll be going with the Bears and the plus points as well hope the Bears offense put up enough points to cover. Last time I took them was against the Rams and it was one of their worst performance. 

[vella85]

It was another rough Sunday for me as I only hit with the Browns winning but the rest of the game I bet on all lost. I was not expecting the Ravens to lose to the Pats and my Eagles let me down so we won't talk about that game lol. I do like the Bears tonight to cover the spread at +3.5 Good luck everyone.

Same I was up about 3-5 units during the afternoon games then blew it all on the Ravens game.

I'll be going with the Bears and the plus points as well hope the Bears offense put up enough points to cover. Last time I took them was against the Rams and it was one of their worst performance. 

Is it just me or does the Bears offense really suck that bad? I couldn't believe what I was watching and I really thought that they would cover the spread but no they couldn't even score in the 4th quarter. To be honest it was hard to watch. I hope I have a better week this week because this past Sunday and then last night was my worse for the season so far.

[ralle14]

Is it just me or does the Bears offense really suck that bad? I couldn't believe what I was watching and I really thought that they would cover the spread but no they couldn't even score in the 4th quarter. To be honest it was hard to watch. I hope I have a better week this week because this past Sunday and then last night was my worse for the season so far.

The offense is indeed terrible it was painful to watch when they had some good chances to tie the game with a touchdown but only convert most of their possession to field goals. They had some signs of life after a quick touchdown return in the third quarter but after that it was all Vikings as they barely get any first downs in the second half. Their defense was amazing in getting some good stops though.

Moving on to TNF I slightly like the Cardinals after their clutch win against the Bills but the Seahawks will probably take it since they're still undefeated at home.

[wheelz1200]

Wtf happened to them Eagles?
It was a collapse on both sides of the Ball! Defense was oit of sync! Offense was out sync! And why did the go for the 2point conversion? Kicking the extra point would have made them trail by 3. Terrible coaching. Bad bad game!

Honestly as a giant fan im not trying to be a homer but the giants should have beat them in the first game too.  They were an evan engram dropped easy pass from sealing the game.  The Eagles are just as bad as every other team in the NFC East.  I expect the winner of the division to have NO more than 6 wins.  How crazy, 6-10 and hosting a home playoff game against possibly Tampa, rams, new Orleans lol.  Will be a bad playoff game to watch.

[wheelz1200]

Who's everyone got for tonights game.  I think i have to take Arizona.  Seattle's defense is just way too pitiful for its offense to overcome for this one.  Think murray runs wild in this one and gets 50-80 yards rushing keeping drives alive.  Its gotta pass runs off somewhat that they can't keep anyone from scoring at will

[tyKiwanuka]

Cardinals look to be the obvious and also public choice, which is always a red flag in NFL Looks like SEA finally runs a bit out of gas and are not able to compensate anymore for their weak defense. They have lost 3 of the last 4 and if you look at the H2H, ARZ has been very successful at CenturyLink Field in the last seasons, which comes as a surprise:


Source: https://www.flashscore.com/match/xMaXOsKu/#h2h/home

All these things considered, these odds for Arizona look huge and they should maybe even be favourite in this one. It's not easy to win at Seattle and they have clean home record this season thus far, but without spectators their stadium is not such a fortress as it used to be. I would never bet on SEA at these odds, but Arizona looks too easy on paper as well. No bet is probably the wisest choice

[xxjumperxx]

Arizona the Public Play today and the way they have been looking not surprised.
I dont like the Seattle Defense and to be honest, R. Wilson has not been looking like R. Wilson the last couple of games. Will he wake up today?

Im still on the fence but probaly give Wilson a chance. Lets hope he wakes up!

[ChiBitCTy]

Arizona the Public Play today and the way they have been looking not surprised.
I dont like the Seattle Defense and to be honest, R. Wilson has not been looking like R. Wilson the last couple of games. Will he wake up today?

Im still on the fence but probaly give Wilson a chance. Lets hope he wakes up!

He didn't look like Wilson the last game but the game before he still threw for 390 yds and 2 TDs.  Last time he faced Arizone he put up 388 yards and 3 TDs..so I think he will "wake up" this game but I'm not sure it's enough to cover the -3 AZ spread, which is exactly how much they lost by last time they faced off in week 7.  They are at home this time however, so that certainly helps some.

[wheelz1200]

Arizona the Public Play today and the way they have been looking not surprised.
I dont like the Seattle Defense and to be honest, R. Wilson has not been looking like R. Wilson the last couple of games. Will he wake up today?

Im still on the fence but probaly give Wilson a chance. Lets hope he wakes up!

He didn't look like Wilson the last game but the game before he still threw for 390 yds and 2 TDs.  Last time he faced Arizone he put up 388 yards and 3 TDs..so I think he will "wake up" this game but I'm not sure it's enough to cover the -3 AZ spread, which is exactly how much they lost by last time they faced off in week 7.  They are at home this time however, so that certainly helps some.

The thing that has me on the fence is that Carson should be back too so thats huge.  He can burn clock when they are up or give a viable run option so the defenses can't play cover 2 otherwise Seattle will burn them with the run.  I might just bet the over and root for both offenses lol.  Now that I think of it thats my play over it is

[vella85]

All the money is going on the Cardinals to cover the +3 spread which does worry me a little as we saw the same the other night with the Bears to cover. I know the Cardinals are a better team then the Bears but still its hard to go against the Seahawks at home with the record they have. Its a tough game to bet on tonight but I am leaning towards the Seahawks only because of their home record.

[bbc.reporter]

My bets are Kyler Murray over the 287.5 passing yards and the game to go over 56.5 points. Everything based on the arguments in the thread that this might be a wake up game for the Seahawks and that their defense is pitiful hehehe.

[ralle14]

The Cardinals keep it close but Seahawks defense manage to stop them at the final possession. It felt like the game was about to go in OT when the Cardinals started chipping some yards down bit by bit during the 2 minute mark and after they made it through the Seahawks 20-30 yard line they pulled some weird plays instead of running it down 10 yards more. Also manage to win my bet builder for the first time with the Seahawks money line and Metcalf TD.  

What do you guys think of the Chargers this Sunday is it safe enough to take them in my survivor pool or should I go for another team like the Browns/Vikings as they'll be facing teams in the NFC East.