🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈

[Hueristic]

Denver came close though and Peyton won me most (maybe all I forget) of my leagues as I grabbed him first to third round (which I was the laughing stock of a few leagues until a few weeks in). No-one drafted a QB before 5th round back then.

I find that surprising, though I don't know how your league scored QB stats.  Maybe you got a point every time he handed the ball off?    

Really though, I remember Payton being more of a game manager that last year in Denver.  He would throw many short routs for scores, but they seemed to be a run-heavy offence, as I recall.

There is an exception to every rule and he was one, Elway had the team stacked for Peytons stand there and air it out game which put up 40-50 points per week. And as far as the running game actually they dumped off more often than not and that pads the QB stats. Thats one reason Rottenburger puts up such great numbers with running backs like Bell, yeah and garbage time too.

Being able to spot these type of aberrations can win you a season.

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[bbc.reporter]

I would grab Rogers higher if he is with Denver than if hes with GB.

He was the MVP last year, with a relatively average supporting crew.  I wouldn't hesitate to take Rodgers even if he went to Houston.

What about if Rodgers decided to be with the Las Vegas Raiders? There are strong rumors that they also want Rodgers and they will be doing everything to get him. Also, words from interviews on Derek Carr also appear to say that he might not be the Raiders’ quarterback when the season begins.

[DireWolfM14]

What about if Rodgers decided to be with the Las Vegas Raiders?

Don't get me wrong; from a fantasy football perspective, I think Rodgers can be statistically successful anywhere he decides to go.  

If we're talking about how successful his chosen team will be, that depends largely on the coaching staff.  Will Jon Gruden do what's needed to leverage what Rodgers' statistics could yield?  In all honesty I'm not a huge fan of Jon Gruden, and I believe he could have helped Derek Carr a bit more.  Rodgers would be an obvious upgrade, but the Raiders would need so much more to mimic the Tampa Bay story line.  

One of the reasons Brady is toting a sixth ring is because Bruce Arians built the team around his strengths.  That doesn't just mean convincing Gronk to come out of retirement, and ensuring a strong running attack.  It also meant having one of the stingiest defenses in the league.  If your offense is constantly chasing a points deficit, your impressive quarterback's stats don't always translate to wins.

There are strong rumors that they also want Rodgers and they will be doing everything to get him. Also, words from interviews on Derek Carr also appear to say that he might not be the Raiders’ quarterback when the season begins.

I don't doubt any of that.  Rodgers is a northern California native, and I'm sure he would like nothing more than to be closer to home.  Now that he's engaged to an actress (who I presume lives in LA, but I really don't know,) I imagine Las Vegas would be pretty convenient for his personal life.  And, as far as I know, he's even more bitter than I am that Mike Nolan didn't draft him first overall.

Although I know it's a long shot, I still hope to see Rodgers in 49er uniform one of these days.

[South Park]

So what do you think? Do we use the League Manager tools and Randomize the draft order or do we use bitcoin?

Interesting I thought the lottery would have more support, so far we are +2+3 for the lottery, +2+3 do not care either way, +1 to use the LM tools, 3 1 undecided.

Even if we have a tie at the top since the other option is basically a do whatever you want then the block hash lottery has won, the block height 692225 has been selected which should be mined roughly during the first hour forum time of this Friday.

The tickets are based on the current draft order, so here they are:

0-1. South Park
2-3. DireWolfM14
4-5. morvillz7z
6-7. suchmoon
8-9. wheelz1200
a-b. bbc.reporter
c-d. nutildah
e-f. Hueristic

Good Luck.

[DireWolfM14]

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Sounds good to me.

I sent the pool address to you guys in a PM this past weekend, hopefully I didn't misspell anyone's user name.  I was goofing around with ChipMixer's new onion site at the time and I had a 0.002BTC chip handy, so I just sent the whole thing to the pool address.  I'll cover transaction fees when the time comes to pay the winners.

Here's the list of participants and payment status:

South Park - Paid
DireWolfM14 - Paid
morvillz7z - Paid
suchmoon - Paid 1,500BTC
wheelz1200 - Paid
bbc.reporter - Paid
nutildah - Paid
Hueristic

It's getting close!  Preseason is a little over two weeks away.

[Hueristic]

Hueristic

It's getting close!  Preseason is a little over two weeks away.

I'll get to it before league starts.
gotta dig out cold storage info.

[bbc.reporter]

@DireWolfM14. I told you in PM that I was sending you the payment yesterday or today after payment of my campaign. It appears I might send it next week, depending if the Bucks -5 covers the spread. If they win I will send it today hehehe.

[DireWolfM14]

Hueristic

It's getting close!  Preseason is a little over two weeks away.

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I hope my previous post isn't misinterpreted.  I was only only expressing my excitement about looming season with those words, it had nothing to do with the payments.  We have until the draft before payment is due, and if I recollect we half-heartedly agreed on September 4-5.  No pressure.

[Hueristic]

^^--No worries.

[bbc.reporter]

@DireWolfM14. It was not misinterpreted. However, I am also very excited to send the payment today. The Bucks are winning by 8 points and might cover the spread hehehe. Also, everyone should send it while bitcoin price is low. It will be harder to send if bitcoin pumps back to $50,000 hehe.

[South Park]

The tickets are based on the current draft order, so here they are:

0-1. South Park
2-3. DireWolfM14
4-5. morvillz7z
6-7. suchmoon
8-9. wheelz1200
a-b. bbc.reporter
c-d. nutildah
e-f. Hueristic

Good Luck.

These are the results of the block hash lottery:


692225      c   1st pick      nutildah
692226      e   2nd pick      Hueristic
692227      9   3rd pick      wheelz1200
692228      7   4th pick      suchmoon
692229      1   5th pick      South Park
692230      0   NA
692231      9   NA
692232      1   NA
692233      f   NA
692234      b   6th pick      bbc.reporter
692235      f   NA
692236      4   7th pick      morvillz7z
692236      4   8th pick      DireWolfM14*

*The last block determined the two last spots unlike the rest which only determined one.


And this ends the lottery, you can verify the results and see if there is anything wrong, I will update the league a little bit later with the results.

And in news that could affect all fantasy leagues the NFL sent a memo to all teams stating the consequences for different scenarios regarding the covid pandemic, with the harshest being for an outbreak among unvaccinated players which could include the forfeit of that game, fines, covering the expenses of the opponent and the players not receiving the pay for that game.

Also vaccinated players will have a competitive advantage over unvaccinated players as they could return sooner in case they test positive.

Source: https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-memo-covid-outbreaks-among-unvaccinated-players-could-mean-forfeits-loss-of-salary-193245542.html

[bbc.reporter]

6th pick. NFL experts give me a chance.

@South Park. What if it is a vaccinated player? The NFL is clearly using this rule to force players to get the vaccine. I reckon the players should show solidarity and walk out.

In any case, Aaron Rodgers will certainly leave. This is not about money. He clearly wants to play in another team.



Aaron Rodgers turned down a two-year extension offer from the Green Bay Packers this offseason, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

The deal, sources said, would have tied the reigning MVP to the Packers for five more seasons and made him the highest-paid quarterback and player in football.

Source https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31847990/sources-aaron-rodgers-declined-green-bay-packers-extension-offer-made-highest-paid-qb

[Hueristic]

6th pick. NFL experts give me a chance.

The fix is in!

[morvillz7z]

^ me waiting for the hash lottery to call my name yesterday , at least i was not last, but that's okay...Ezekiel Elliott, Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb pool, first pick here i come. I mean we are all going to have super-stacked teams but how is everybody liking their draft spots?


In regards to the NFL memo, if you decline the jab and you are tier 1: coaches, staff, essential workers you are basically out:

"Vikings Dismiss O-Line Coach Rick Dennison For Refusing COVID-19 Vaccine"
source: https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-dismiss-o-line-coach-rick-dennison-refusing-covid-19-vaccine

"Report: Cole Popovich No Longer Part Of Patriots Coaching Staff, Decision Related To COVID-19 Vaccine"
source: https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/07/23/cole-popovich-reportedly-no-longer-part-of-patriots-coaching-staff/

[suchmoon]

I mean we are all going to have super-stacked teams but how is everybody liking their draft spots?

I have no idea what I'm doing so it doesn't really matter which spot I have. I'm open to offers. How much for the 4th pick? Starting bid 15 BTC.

[South Park]

@South Park. What if it is a vaccinated player? The NFL is clearly using this rule to force players to get the vaccine. I reckon the players should show solidarity and walk out.

In the case there is an outbreak among vaccinated players the game can still be postponed or canceled but the league will do the best to minimize the costs to both teams, also there is no mention about the game being forfeited in the case of the game being canceled so those teams would most likely play a 16 game season, while if this happened for an outbreak of unvaccinated players and the game was canceled a forfeit will take place.

6th pick. NFL experts give me a chance.

Well there is nothing to do, luck has spoken, in fact if you take a look at the 692223 and 692224 blocks they had my numbers so I was this close to retain the 1st pick of the draft and instead I got the 5th.

Anyway now that we know where we are going to pick you can begin to make your draft board and see which kind of players will be around when you finally pick, besides this is not as bad as it may seem, remember this is a snake draft so your second pick will not be the 14th but the 11th as the draft order will be in reverse during that round so you can still pick some good players.

^ me waiting for the hash lottery to call my name yesterday

I saw you, tough luck but it is what it is.

at least i was not last, but that's okay...Ezekiel Elliott, Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb pool, first pick here i come. I mean we are all going to have super-stacked teams but how is everybody liking their draft spots?

Barkley is still recovering so he may not be ready for the start of the season and this should be taken into account for the draft.

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/giants-saquon-barkley-five-others-put-on-activepup-list/ar-AAMtCWf

In regards to the NFL memo, if you decline the jab and you are tier 1: coaches, staff, essential workers you are basically out:

"Vikings Dismiss O-Line Coach Rick Dennison For Refusing COVID-19 Vaccine"
source: https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-dismiss-o-line-coach-rick-dennison-refusing-covid-19-vaccine

"Report: Cole Popovich No Longer Part Of Patriots Coaching Staff, Decision Related To COVID-19 Vaccine"
source: https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/07/23/cole-popovich-reportedly-no-longer-part-of-patriots-coaching-staff/

Which was to be expected, after all the competitive advantage that teams will win if they reach the 85% threshold to loosen the restrictions could be the difference between winning and losing a critical game and to have an advantage on the playoffs, and in just one day since the memo was made public two more teams reached the threshold.

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/half-of-nfl-teams-hit-85-covid-19-vaccination-threshold/ar-AAMuf4a

I mean we are all going to have super-stacked teams but how is everybody liking their draft spots?

I have no idea what I'm doing so it doesn't really matter which spot I have. I'm open to offers. How much for the 4th pick? Starting bid 15 BTC.

I know you are joking but right now trading picks is disabled on the league, however this can be enabled if there is enough demand among the league participants.

[OgNasty]

Seems to me like football’s popularity is fading fast. I’m finding more and more basketball fans or fighting fans and less and less football supporters these days. I can’t help but blame their management. Some of it might also have to do with the brutality of the sport and the brain issues being made public by former players, but I feel like they’ve got a long way to go before the NFL figures out a way forward.

[wheelz1200]

3rd spot nice.  I still have to get payment over.  I will send it over by the end of the weekend.  Have we figured out a draft date yet?  Can't wait for the season to start feels like forever ago last season ended.  Looking forward to the giants competing for a solid playoff spot this year.

[DireWolfM14]

8th pick      DireWolfM14

Okay, so the hash-gods are plotting against me?  Typical, after such a difficult childhood.  I've had to deal with adversity all my life.  My mother abandoned me on a daily basis, leaving me to fend for myself among other uneducated derelicts and screaming yard-duties.  These traumatic experiences only strengthened my will, not only to survive, but to also succeed. 

[Hueristic]

Seems to me like football’s popularity is fading fast. I’m finding more and more basketball fans or fighting fans and less and less football supporters these days. I can’t help but blame their management. Some of it might also have to do with the brutality of the sport and the brain issues being made public by former players, but I feel like they’ve got a long way to go before the NFL figures out a way forward.

Yeah right and that's why American football is being adopted all over the world.

3rd spot nice.  I still have to get payment over.  I will send it over by the end of the weekend.  Have we figured out a draft date yet?  Can't wait for the season to start feels like forever ago last season ended.  Looking forward to the giants competing for a solid playoff spot this year.

Shit man I thought I was doomed being a Pats fan but in comparison I feel blessed!

At least we can both be happy we're not Jets fans!

8th pick      DireWolfM14

Okay, so the hash-gods are plotting against me?  Typical, after such a difficult childhood.  I've had to deal with adversity all my life.  My mother abandoned me on a daily basis, leaving me to fend for myself among other uneducated derelicts and screaming yard-duties.  These traumatic experiences only strengthened my will, not only to survive, but to also succeed.  

Draft order is a bit over rated, I think I've done best drafting 5th overall and have gotten screwed the couple times I drafted first.
2 picks in a row can be an advantage.