🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈

[tyKiwanuka]

I do not know why some of the fans on the internet are dismissing them after the loss against the Titans.

I think it's because it was the Bills' first real test and they failed badly. And as I said before, I am not sold on the Bills as well. They played Jets/Dolphins, which were must wins given how bad these teams are. Then only had a very narrow win against the Rams with a very late TD. And the Rams are 4-1, but they already played all NFC East teams That win against the Raiders was probably the only one, where you can say, ok, this was a very nice performance against what it seems a quite good football team this season. And then they get destroyed by the Titans.....now this is standard in NFL - any given Sunday - but Bills are overrated imo

[xxjumperxx]

Bills are defo overrated and the Titans Game was the first real test and we saw how that went.
Im not saying they are a bad team, just not as good as all these experts make them out to be!

[vella85]

I do not know why some of the fans on the internet are dismissing them after the loss against the Titans.

I think it's because it was the Bills' first real test and they failed badly. And as I said before, I am not sold on the Bills as well. They played Jets/Dolphins, which were must wins given how bad these teams are. Then only had a very narrow win against the Rams with a very late TD. And the Rams are 4-1, but they already played all NFC East teams That win against the Raiders was probably the only one, where you can say, ok, this was a very nice performance against what it seems a quite good football team this season. And then they get destroyed by the Titans.....now this is standard in NFL - any given Sunday - but Bills are overrated imo

I agree with you and that is why I liked the Titans to upset the Bills which they did as besides the Rams game where they just won, they haven't really played any good opponents. Like I said the Titans are a good team which I think most forget how good of a season they had last year and they look to be continuing on with that good form. I'm still not sold on the Bills so I'll be interested to see how they go in this next game.

[bbc.reporter]

@vella85, @xxjumperxx, @tyKiwanuka. Do you not know me? I am the futures bet whisperer. I have predicted and bet the Raptors to win the 2019 NBA championship and the Miami Heat to win the 2020 eastern conference. Do not underestimate my power hehehehe.

I predict the Bills to win the AFC championship.

[tyKiwanuka]

I am putting some money on the Browns tb the Steelers today This could turn out to be just a waste of money, but my gut feeling tells me, that this will be a very close one. Both teams didn't have that big test yet, so it's a bit hard to judge how good they really are. I liked what the Browns did in their last two games against Cowboys/Colts though, while the Steelers were a bit shaky against Texans/Eagles, if that makes any sense.

Looking forward to Bucs - Packers, where I think GB will get the W, but the odds look ok-ish for that to happen. And then we have two Shit-Bowls today with NYG-WAS and MIA-NYJ

[xxjumperxx]

@vella85, @xxjumperxx, @tyKiwanuka. Do you not know me? I am the futures bet whisperer. I have predicted and bet the Raptors to win the 2019 NBA championship and the Miami Heat to win the 2020 eastern conference. Do not underestimate my power hehehehe.

I predict the Bills to win the AFC championship.

Da Bills? No way! 

[morvillz7z]

I think i went slightly overboard with my picks this week  , one too many, hopefully, some of them hit.
Three teams i'm focused on and going against are the Panthers, Falcons and the Jets.
 
Panthers are sitting with a 3-2 record in the NFC South, surprising to most playing great even without CMC, but i think Bridgewater will have major problems against Mack and the Bears pass rush in this one.

Foles 2+ TDs + Bears ML total odds 3.00
Allen Robinson 70+ receiving yards + Bears ML total odds 3.00

Well, Jets got rid of Bell earlier this week, but they have so many problems in so many areas... a complete mess of a team, the only thing i like about them is Jamison Crowder and expect him to have a decent game.

Gesicki 1+TD + Dolphins ML total odds 2.88
Gaskin 55+ rushing yards + Crowder 75+ receiving yards total odds 3.40

Falcons finally fired Dan Quinn after yet another miserable start of the season, Ryan hasn't thrown a touchdown since week 3, Falcons defense is just awful.
Vikings might not have Cook in this game but his back up Mattison could put big numbers just as easy. I expect this to be a blowout win for the Vikings, spread should be at least -6.5/7.5

Jefferson 1+TD + Vikings ML total odds 3.00
Cousins 250+ passing yards + Thielen 1+TD total odds 3.00
Thielen 1+TD + Mattison 1+TD total odds 3.00

Lol almost forgot that i have a 4team acca as well, Bears, Packers, Viking and the Rams 9.25 odds

edit; rekt 

[ralle14]

Going for a somewhat safe parlay this week 3 team Dolphins, Ravens and Vikings to win with odds slightly above even(2.2). For my survivor picks I got the Ravens and Dolphins on different entries. More than half of the predictions are on Dolphins but I doubt the Jets could pull something miraculous here.  

Edit : What a poor performance by Vikings but I was able to make a live bet on the Falcons to win some back. Ravens was a very close one but the Eagles choked in the last play.

[vella85]

Going for a somewhat safe parlay this week 3 team Dolphins, Ravens and Vikings to win with odds slightly above even(2.2). For my survivor picks I got the Ravens and Dolphins on different entries. More than half of the predictions are on Dolphins but I doubt the Jets could pull something miraculous here.  

Edit : What a poor performance by Vikings but I was able to make a live bet on the Falcons to win some back. Ravens was a very close one but the Eagles choked in the last play.

Yeah I had the Vikings in my parlay as well along with Washington to cover the spread, I took the extra points, which they did and for the Bucs to win at the ML and they are currently winning. I'll be pissed if its just the Vikings that screw me over as I really thought they were a certain winner with the way the Falcons have been playing so far.

[morvillz7z]

I'll be pissed if its just the Vikings that screw me over as I really thought they were a certain winner with the way the Falcons have been playing so far.

We all got hoodwinked by the Vikings, 60% of my bets lost because of them, unbelievable.

Steelers spanked Cleveland real good, Giants got NY first win of the season and Patriots surprisingly lost at home.

New England Patriots fall below .500 this late in NFL season for first time since 2002

Anyone watching Packers vs. Tampa game? Rodgers with 2 INT in three passes, Bucs 28 unanswered points, leading big at the half.

[nutildah]

Another week with some surprising upsets thus far. At least a couple poor teams finally got their first W. In a Battle of the Bays, Buccaneers are dominating the Packers as Rogers is having his worst game in what could be years -- glad I didn't bet on that one.

My pick for this week is Rams -3... Some books have it at -2.5 and some at -3. The sportsbook I'm using is paying 2.24x for -3 so I kinda had to take it.

Of course the most exciting game will be tomorrow, with 2 of the best teams in the league facing off against each other, both coming off of losses. I'd pick the Chiefs to win all day, but this season anything can happen (more than usually) and I would not at all be surprised if they got steamrolled by the Bills.

Edit: Fucking hell, lost again!      

[xxjumperxx]

There was so much hype around Rodgers, he is going to go off against Brady.
Brady doesnt have it anymore, and so on.
Well we saw what Brady and that Tampa D did to Rodgers, shut them down...
Rodgers always seems to choke when its Superstar QBs he is playing against.

[wheelz1200]

I'll be pissed if its just the Vikings that screw me over as I really thought they were a certain winner with the way the Falcons have been playing so far.

We all got hoodwinked by the Vikings, 60% of my bets lost because of them, unbelievable.

Steelers spanked Cleveland real good, Giants got NY first win of the season and Patriots surprisingly lost at home.

New England Patriots fall below .500 this late in NFL season for first time since 2002

Anyone watching Packers vs. Tampa game? Rodgers with 2 INT in three passes, Bucs 28 unanswered points, leading big at the half.

Yes the giants finally won lol.  Hard to believe that if the cowboys lose tonight the giants will be only one game out of first place.  The nfc east this year can be a year where first place only wins 6 games.  6-10 hosting a home field playoff game, terrible lol

[DireWolfM14]

I am putting some money on the Browns tb the Steelers today

Ouch!  I didn't make any predictions this week, but all that talk about the Steelers going 5-0 for the first time since the Bradshaw days seemed to drive them.  Cleveland is looking good this year, which is nice to see.

Looking forward to Bucs - Packers, where I think GB will get the W, but the odds look ok-ish for that to happen.

I was looking forward to that game also, then it got boring as fuck.  Definitely not the results I expected, especially after the first quarter.  Rodgers looked rattled, very unusual to see him that way.

Did anyone get a glimpse of the LA@SF odds before the game?  I imagine that the Rams were favored.  I was not looking forward to seeing the Nines lose again, but was pleasantly surprised by their outing.

[South Park]

The game of NE was exasperating to watch, this was the first time a Belichick team lost when the defence did not allowed a TD, the score may seem close but if it was not for the excellent defence that could have been easily become a blowout, what is worse is that for the most part NE is experimenting the same offensive problems than last year and nothing was done to try to fix them, the sacks against Cam happened because no one was open and when we add that Cam himself is not the most accurate QB this compounds the problem.

I know there have been injuries and the lack of practice due to the coronavirus did no help but the loss against DEN was critical. Now NE has to face SF, at BUF, at NYJ, BAL, at HOU and ARI, except for the NYJ all seem like very difficult games especially if the offence keeps scoring 21.8 PPG, the games against SF and BAL are sure losses and the game against NYJ is a sure win, but the games against BUF, HOU and ARI are up on the air.

[wheelz1200]

The game of NE was exasperating to watch, this was the first time a Belichick team lost when the defence did not allowed a TD, the score may seem close but if it was not for the excellent defence that could have been easily become a blowout, what is worse is that for the most part NE is experimenting the same offensive problems than last year and nothing was done to try to fix them, the sacks against Cam happened because no one was open and when we add that Cam himself is not the most accurate QB this compounds the problem.

I know there have been injuries and the lack of practice due to the coronavirus did no help but the loss against DEN was critical. Now NE has to face SF, at BUF, at NYJ, BAL, at HOU and ARI, except for the NYJ all seem like very difficult games especially if the offence keeps scoring 21.8 PPG, the games against SF and BAL are sure losses and the game against NYJ is a sure win, but the games against BUF, HOU and ARI are up on the air.

I dont think the game against the niners is a sure loss.  Same thing for baltimore, the eagles just took them to the brink why couldn't the Pats.  I do agree there is little to no way they can lose against the jets, i dont think the jets have a chance to win a single game this year they are pathetic.

[tyKiwanuka]

Yes the giants finally won lol.

I wouldn't say Giants won, but Washington lost A 4th quarter fumble recovery TD by the Giants and then WAS going for 2pts with 36sec left, which the Giants defended well tbf, although I think Allen could have run it in himself, but anyway. I'd rather have a high draft pick (Lawrence ?) than winning a game here and there, since this team is just bad and they are going nowhere with Jones at QB (and Gettleman as GM). But in the end it would need picks 1-10 to make this team somewhat competitive again in 2-3 years

Well we saw what Brady and that Tampa D did to Rodgers, shut them down...

Everything looked good for GB until Rodgers threw these back-to-back INT's. From then on, it was all Bucs. And this happens very often in NFL, sometimes even just the half-time is enough. It's pretty interesting to watch from a psychological point of view, since I don't know any sports (maybe Darts), where a single event can turn a game upside down. And it's even more unlikely in a team sport compared to something like Tennis, where you see players implode every now and then as well; but it's no single point then, it evolves over a period of time, which you can spot/feel with experience. In NFL it can be that ONE play and everything changes, amazing.

Ouch!  I didn't make any predictions this week, but all that talk about the Steelers going 5-0 for the first time since the Bradshaw days seemed to drive them.  Cleveland is looking good this year, which is nice to see.

Yes, poor pick. But better to lose a bet 7-38 than 35-38 with a FG while the clock expires. Browns were super bad yesterday, but the Steelers defense was just out of this world. Seemed like they always already knew upfront what CLE wanted to do. Mayfield was benched, OBJ took off his shoes already mid 4th quarter and Steelers gave some snaps to Rudolph as well. Was a better preseason game for good parts

[ralle14]

What do you guys lean on for today's games. I'm still undecided on which side to take but I feel like the home teams could pull a win here after watching those upsets against the Rams and Packers.  

Edit : I remember tykiwanuka mentioned about the Bills record not that convincing despite winning 4 out of 5 since they faced weaker teams so I went with the Chiefs handicap.

[vella85]

What do you guys lean on for today's games. I'm still undecided on which side to take but I feel like the home teams could pull a win here after watching those upsets against the Rams and Packers.  

Edit : I remember tykiwanuka mentioned about the Bills record not that convincing despite winning 4 out of 5 since they faced weaker teams so I went with the Chiefs handicap.

I'm with you on the Chiefs as I'm still not sure how good the Bills really are as a few of us have mentioned in here, they haven't really played any of the stronger teams so it will be interesting to see how they go against the SB champs.

Anyone liking the Cowboys tonight? I would of placed a bet on them if they were not the fav but they are so I think I'll just sit back and watch game.

[wheelz1200]

Yes the giants finally won lol.

I wouldn't say Giants won, but Washington lost A 4th quarter fumble recovery TD by the Giants and then WAS going for 2pts with 36sec left, which the Giants defended well tbf, although I think Allen could have run it in himself, but anyway. I'd rather have a high draft pick (Lawrence ?) than winning a game here and there, since this team is just bad and they are going nowhere with Jones at QB (and Gettleman as GM). But in the end it would need picks 1-10 to make this team somewhat competitive again in 2-3 years

Well we saw what Brady and that Tampa D did to Rodgers, shut them down...

Everything looked good for GB until Rodgers threw these back-to-back INT's. From then on, it was all Bucs. And this happens very often in NFL, sometimes even just the half-time is enough. It's pretty interesting to watch from a psychological point of view, since I don't know any sports (maybe Darts), where a single event can turn a game upside down. And it's even more unlikely in a team sport compared to something like Tennis, where you see players implode every now and then as well; but it's no single point then, it evolves over a period of time, which you can spot/feel with experience. In NFL it can be that ONE play and everything changes, amazing.

Ouch!  I didn't make any predictions this week, but all that talk about the Steelers going 5-0 for the first time since the Bradshaw days seemed to drive them.  Cleveland is looking good this year, which is nice to see.

Yes, poor pick. But better to lose a bet 7-38 than 35-38 with a FG while the clock expires. Browns were super bad yesterday, but the Steelers defense was just out of this world. Seemed like they always already knew upfront what CLE wanted to do. Mayfield was benched, OBJ took off his shoes already mid 4th quarter and Steelers gave some snaps to Rudolph as well. Was a better preseason game for good parts

I dont think the giants give up on jones just yet.  The line is horrendous, what will Lawrence do behind that line?  And I'm tired of watching the giants lose game after game id rather them have a worse draft pick and win some games.  Look at the Jets, what free agent is going to want to sign with them even if they get Lawrence.  At a certain point you have to just go out and win games forget about draft slot