🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈

[tyKiwanuka]

I dont think the giants give up on jones just yet.

I don't think so too and it wouldn't be the right thing to do if I am being honest. It's just me being done with watching this team (lose) and what do you do then ? You blame the QB But I also see no progress with Jones. That line is bad, although they are "working" on it for years already spending draft picks and money, but Jones still does a lot of rookie mistakes and makes bad decisions, which is not the lines fault. The line forces him into these situations, but just throw the damn ball away, if there is no receiver open

It's lacking talent in all areas though. Secondary, LB's and D-Line are very mediocre, the WR corps is solid, but nothing special. At TE and RB there is some talent, which doesn't get to show because of Jones/line. And thats to blame on the GM then and the coaching afterwards. Giants are searching for a good/fitting coach for ages and if you don't have some stability on that position, you will always start from scratch at some point.

My favourite soccer team is in the same position as the Giants. They turned every stone, changed all personnel, new managers, new coaches and they keep on struggling and don't know what more to do to be successful again. And I don't know as well, you can just keep on grinding and hope that everything will fall into place sooner or later. I think I would start a new process once more and look for a new GM.....

[South Park]

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I dont think the game against the niners is a sure loss.  Same thing for baltimore, the eagles just took them to the brink why couldn't the Pats.

Maybe I worded it too strongly still I see very small probabilities for NE to win those games, why? NE has changed their style of winning games, during the most recent years except the last NE won games by Brady using dink and donk as they call it, special teams that made few mistakes and won good field position and a defence that was top 10 or even top 5 when it came to points allowed, and if things went awfully wrong NE could always rely on Brady to try to save the day.

However since last year things changed, the defence became the most important unit and Brady became a game manager, due to injuries running the ball was difficult if not impossible and Brady had to pass all the time, the problem? WRs could not get separation, things were so bad that if I remember correctly not a single NE’s WR was among the top 100 on that stat, so Brady had to get rid of the ball a lot, this gave the impression his game had decreased even more than what actually has, Brady knew he had to be very careful with the football otherwise NE will not have the opportunity to make a comeback and as a result Brady was intercepted only 8 times.

But what about this season? NE has always depended on out-preparing their opponents but due to the covid19 pandemic there was no preseason, benefiting those with more raw talent, then many cases were discovered among the team and they lost their BYE without any chance to improve the team in the process, as of right now due to different circumstances NE has 23 players on the injury report and they have two 6th round rookies as starters on the OL making more difficult to get any kind of running game going on.

So far NE is trying that the defence keeps them in the game, establish the running game and once NE do this they can more easily activate their passing game, NE offence ranks 5th in rushing game but NE ranks last on the passing game and 25th at scoring offence, Cam has been intercepted 4 times which is not bad but he is bound to be intercepted more than Brady at the end of the season despite WRs gaining way more separation this year.

All in all I just do not picture a way for them to win those two games but most likely that is why I am just a fan and not coaching the team, I hope I am wrong after all more than anything fans want to see their favourite team win.

[vella85]

Its now starting to look like the Bills are not as good as most of us thought after losing again to a strong team. They should be winning this Sunday against the Jets but I might have a bet on the Jets to cover the spread if it looks good as the Bills momentum is down right now. After this Jets game they have some tough games coming up so that is when we'll see if they are really a contender this season or pretender.

[wheelz1200]

Its now starting to look like the Bills are not as good as most of us thought after losing again to a strong team. They should be winning this Sunday against the Jets but I might have a bet on the Jets to cover the spread if it looks good as the Bills momentum is down right now. After this Jets game they have some tough games coming up so that is when we'll see if they are really a contender this season or pretender.

Betting on the jets to cover anything this year is a ballsy play.  Miami just shut them down why wouldn't the Bills.  I mean they played the reining SB Champs and got beat, actually I think the odds got lowered on the bills and jets game so its better odds now than before and I think the bills will be motivated to wreck them and get back on track with a division win.

[ralle14]

Thinking of playing the Eagles this week for my survivor pool since they're against the Giants. They had a decent showing last week against the Ravens and if they win here they'll also take the Cowboys spot right ?

Betting on the jets to cover anything this year is a ballsy play.  Miami just shut them down why wouldn't the Bills.  I mean they played the reining SB Champs and got beat, actually I think the odds got lowered on the bills and jets game so its better odds now than before and I think the bills will be motivated to wreck them and get back on track with a division win.

I agree it's hard to rely on Jets and I remember someone posted on reddit that they haven't covered a single spread. But since this is a divisional match it could end up being close just like the first week. The spread started at 10 but now it's at 13.5 if it goes to 14 or more I think it could be a decent play.

[wheelz1200]

Thinking of playing the Eagles this week for my survivor pool since they're against the Giants. They had a decent showing last week against the Ravens and if they win here they'll also take the Cowboys spot right ?

Betting on the jets to cover anything this year is a ballsy play.  Miami just shut them down why wouldn't the Bills.  I mean they played the reining SB Champs and got beat, actually I think the odds got lowered on the bills and jets game so its better odds now than before and I think the bills will be motivated to wreck them and get back on track with a division win.

I agree it's hard to rely on Jets and I remember someone posted on reddit that they haven't covered a single spread. But since this is a divisional match it could end up being close just like the first week. The spread started at 10 but now it's at 13.5 if it goes to 14 or more I think it could be a decent play.

Playing with fire.  I mean they won't go 0-16 against the spread but have ypu watched any of their games?  I can't see how they will even sniff 1 win.  It could easily be 14-0 Bills in the first quarter.  I would take the Bills all day at 13.5 I'd probably take them all the way up to 16.5, possible tease play for better odds.

[xxjumperxx]

Thinking of playing the Eagles this week for my survivor pool since they're against the Giants. They had a decent showing last week against the Ravens and if they win here they'll also take the Cowboys spot right ?

Betting on the jets to cover anything this year is a ballsy play.  Miami just shut them down why wouldn't the Bills.  I mean they played the reining SB Champs and got beat, actually I think the odds got lowered on the bills and jets game so its better odds now than before and I think the bills will be motivated to wreck them and get back on track with a division win.

I agree it's hard to rely on Jets and I remember someone posted on reddit that they haven't covered a single spread. But since this is a divisional match it could end up being close just like the first week. The spread started at 10 but now it's at 13.5 if it goes to 14 or more I think it could be a decent play.

Im pretty sure the bookmakers are adjusting the spread on the Bills/Jets game and might overinflate it a bit to make the Bills look like they should easily cover the spread.
Bills started off hot but def. have been cooling down. The loss against the Chiefs, meh, its the Chief and they have been on a roll, but those losses sure do hurt a team.
So we have 2 scenarios, the Bills come out mad ready to show that they are a good team and destroy the Jets, or come out slow because motivation is low.

[wheelz1200]

Thinking of playing the Eagles this week for my survivor pool since they're against the Giants. They had a decent showing last week against the Ravens and if they win here they'll also take the Cowboys spot right ?

Betting on the jets to cover anything this year is a ballsy play.  Miami just shut them down why wouldn't the Bills.  I mean they played the reining SB Champs and got beat, actually I think the odds got lowered on the bills and jets game so its better odds now than before and I think the bills will be motivated to wreck them and get back on track with a division win.

I agree it's hard to rely on Jets and I remember someone posted on reddit that they haven't covered a single spread. But since this is a divisional match it could end up being close just like the first week. The spread started at 10 but now it's at 13.5 if it goes to 14 or more I think it could be a decent play.

Im pretty sure the bookmakers are adjusting the spread on the Bills/Jets game and might overinflate it a bit to make the Bills look like they should easily cover the spread.
Bills started off hot but def. have been cooling down. The loss against the Chiefs, meh, its the Chief and they have been on a roll, but those losses sure do hurt a team.
So we have 2 scenarios, the Bills come out mad ready to show that they are a good team and destroy the Jets, or come out slow because motivation is low.

I bank on mad.  No way their motivation is low knowing this is a divisional game and this is their division to win.  After years and years of patriots reign, they finally have their shot and dont think they will take their foot off the peddle in this one.  I can see 31-13 on this game.

[wheelz1200]

Giants +4.5 tonight whats everyone think of this game. I think I'm taking the giants and the under.  I could see a 20-17 game here.  Both offenses pretty bad right now.  I might even take the giants ML if the odds are good enough. Either way, terrible game if the 1-5 giants win they will be 1/2 game out of first place lol.

[ralle14]

Giants +4.5 tonight whats everyone think of this game. I think I'm taking the giants and the under.  I could see a 20-17 game here.  Both offenses pretty bad right now.  I might even take the giants ML if the odds are good enough. Either way, terrible game if the 1-5 giants win they will be 1/2 game out of first place lol.

The Giants' spread seems like a good play but I didn't watch their game last week against Washington so I went with the Eagles to win @1.4. A lot of people are on the spread and it's tempting to take after what the Eagles put up against the Ravens but i'll play it safe with the match winner pick. 

[vella85]

Giants +4.5 tonight whats everyone think of this game. I think I'm taking the giants and the under.  I could see a 20-17 game here.  Both offenses pretty bad right now.  I might even take the giants ML if the odds are good enough. Either way, terrible game if the 1-5 giants win they will be 1/2 game out of first place lol.

The Giants' spread seems like a good play but I didn't watch their game last week against Washington so I went with the Eagles to win @1.4. A lot of people are on the spread and it's tempting to take after what the Eagles put up against the Ravens but i'll play it safe with the match winner pick. 

The spread for the game has been pushed out to 5 and the Eagles are $1.41 on some books. The Eagles are my team but I hate taking them when they are short priced favourites against a divisional team so I think I'll sit this one out.

On the Bills/Jets game I'm only seeing +12 spread on most books so it has come in 1.5.

[morvillz7z]

Just so i don't stay up and watch two teams i have zero interest in, i've put a few small-stake prop bets on the Eagles.
Fulgham O62.5 receiving yards, he's been the only reliable receiver for Wentz the last couple of games, he should get around 10 tgts even with Jackson back.
Boston Scott O53.5 rushing yards, Giants have a decent rush defense, so i'm not super psyched about this one but whatever..., couldn't think of anything else.

I also took the Eagles spread (-5.5), so GO EAGLES! 

[bbc.reporter]

The Giants are leading this must win game. The NFC East winner might have the worst record in the NFL to receive a slot for the playoffs hehehe.

This is also the division where a record like the Washington Redskins still has a chance to go to the playoffs hehehehe.

[xxjumperxx]

Wow, the NFC East is just so terrible...
Giants blew a last minute lead to have the Eagles come out on top 22:21... pretty embarassing...

I mean look at this table...  

[bbc.reporter]

@xxjumperxx. The Giants +4.5 against the spread have won, however.

Next must win game in that division is the Cowboys versus the Washington Redskins with the Redskins giving -1. I am shaking my head. Football experts, why is this?

[xxjumperxx]

@xxjumperxx. The Giants +4.5 against the spread have won, however.

Next must win game in that division is the Cowboys versus the Washington Redskins with the Redskins giving -1. I am shaking my head. Football experts, why is this?

I had the giants on the +5 Spread and bit sprinkled on the Moneyline. It was just embarassing to see

That line had me scratching my head, the Redskins favored? Dalton did look pretty bad in the game though...

[vella85]

As an Eagles fan I'm happy they got the win but watching the game was terrible and I'm glad that I didn't place a bet on them even though they won. I think most here had a win with most taking the Giants to cover which they did. I do agree that the NFC East table looks very bad right now but it can all change as there is time for at least one or two teams to get .500 hopefully lol.

[ralle14]

As an Eagles fan I'm happy they got the win but watching the game was terrible and I'm glad that I didn't place a bet on them even though they won. I think most here had a win with most taking the Giants to cover which they did. I do agree that the NFC East table looks very bad right now but it can all change as there is time for at least one or two teams to get .500 hopefully lol.

It was indeed one of the worst game i've watched both teams could get anything going punting back and forth. In the second quarter the turnovers came then the Eagles doing their own thing by choking every possible play was just frustrating. They had a lot of chances to get away with the game but they missed most of it. In some of their plays it felt like Wentz was frustrated since he started running the ball on his own instead of passing it. 

[wheelz1200]

As an Eagles fan I'm happy they got the win but watching the game was terrible and I'm glad that I didn't place a bet on them even though they won. I think most here had a win with most taking the Giants to cover which they did. I do agree that the NFC East table looks very bad right now but it can all change as there is time for at least one or two teams to get .500 hopefully lol.

This game was terrible lol.  I mean way to go giants just imode why don't you.  That engram drop on 3rd down with 2 to go was terrible.  He is a flat out bust, another first round miss.  And I kmow Andre Thomas is a rookie but he is getting torn apart at right tackle.  I hope the giants get the #1 pick and trade it for multi picks, they have so many holes to fill, where to start?

[bbc.reporter]

As an Eagles fan I'm happy they got the win but watching the game was terrible and I'm glad that I didn't place a bet on them even though they won. I think most here had a win with most taking the Giants to cover which they did. I do agree that the NFC East table looks very bad right now but it can all change as there is time for at least one or two teams to get .500 hopefully lol.

I predict the Cowboys to win the division with or without Dak Prescott. The other teams are worse in many ways hehe. The Cowboys at the very least have their offense.