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[Hueristic]

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?
also IIRC I had Nutildah from earlier stating that he wanted no changes from last year but didnt find that post so there is no link from that but i had already added his votes.

2 - please change to b (2 payout spots)
4 - please change to a (reverse order)

other two are good

thanks

Done, and I changed my votes on those 2 so we now have a majority on them.

I will get the last vote poll up as soon as I can.

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[South Park]

@Hueristic. I am afraid it will my team who will be having much problems by week 5 hehe. I have been doing more than 50 mock drafts from the 12th position and I cannot find a good strategy to get much of the players I need that will give a good win-loss record to enter the playoffs. My gameboys are overheating.

Picking on the extreme positions of the draft is difficult because with your first pick you need to get value, basically if you think that a player will be better this season and it slipped through for some reason or another you need to draft him, however with your second pick you need to overdraft a player you think may not be on the board by the next time you get to pick, so it is as if you have to use two strategies at the same time, which makes it difficult to do a good job with either of them.

While picking on the middle is way easier as you just have to concentrate yourself on getting the best player available, and this allows you to be way more consistent with your picks.

[wheelz1200]

@Hueristic. I am afraid it will my team who will be having much problems by week 5 hehe. I have been doing more than 50 mock drafts from the 12th position and I cannot find a good strategy to get much of the players I need that will give a good win-loss record to enter the playoffs. My gameboys are overheating.

Picking on the extreme positions of the draft is difficult because with your first pick you need to get value, basically if you think that a player will be better this season and it slipped through for some reason or another you need to draft him, however with your second pick you need to overdraft a player you think may not be on the board by the next time you get to pick, so it is as if you have to use two strategies at the same time, which makes it difficult to do a good job with either of them.

While picking on the middle is way easier as you just have to concentrate yourself on getting the best player available, and this allows you to be way more consistent with your picks.

It's all built into the strategy what position you draft and what positions you should be drafting at those spots.  I don't mind anywhere to draft from but pick 1 is uneventful and with the snake draft you have to wait so long same with 12th.  I kind of like the middle spots personally.  Just glad the season is finally here!

[Hueristic]

OK this is the choices with reverse order waiver, both are reverse order with a slight variation on the second one.

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN6427.html

About Reverse Order of Standings waiver priority

    Managers are ranked from high to low to determine who wins a waiver claim.
    The initial priority rank is determined by the league's draft:
        Live and Autopick Drafts - The last draft position gets 1st rank.
        Offline Drafts - The last to register gets 1st rank.
    After each Game Week in the regular season, the waiver priority list is reset:
        The new rank is determined by the reverse order of the current league standings (the manager with the lowest league standing gets 1st rank).
        When playoffs begin, the waiver priority list stops resetting.
    Ranks are not affected by:
        Successful waiver claims.
        Stat corrections that affect the league standings after the current week's rank has been determined.

About Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings waiver priority

This priority is the same as the "Reverse Order of Standings" waiver priority, except that when a manager's claim is successful, that manager drops to the bottom of the priority list.

So the choices are:
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Reverse Order of Standings type:

1) Basic Reverse Order of Standings

2) Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings (advanced Reverse Order of Standings)


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I personally think the second is fairer to those that don't use the waver as often as far as I understand it.

[bbc.reporter]

@Hueristic. Can I change my vote on the waiver method? If allowed, I vote for weekly rolling list based on standings. I will certainly need this heehehe.

[Hueristic]

@Hueristic. Can I change my vote on the waiver method? If allowed, I vote for weekly rolling list based on standings. I will certainly need this heehehe.

It's not a vote change its just a vote for which version ROS and I have tallied your vote.


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Reverse Order of Standings type:

1) Basic Reverse Order of Standings

2) Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings (advanced Reverse Order of Standings)

bbc.reporter

3) don't care/abstain
Hueristic, seek3r


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I've added context to the choices to better clarify that they are in fact both "Reverse Order of Standings" just 2 versions that yahoo allows.

I didn't want to add the 2 versions in the initial vote as it could have split the vote and then continual could have won even if a majority wanted ROS as that is what it looked like.

[wheelz1200]

Just checking with the group is my vote in and are ypu waiting on anything from me pre draft?  Glad we moved into a 12 team league there is much more strategy in terms of draft, waiver wire, and trades.  In a 10 team league I generally keep the same roster unless there is a bye.  This year is gonna be fun can't wait tonget it kicked up.

[Hueristic]

Just checking with the group is my vote in and are ypu waiting on anything from me pre draft?  Glad we moved into a 12 team league there is much more strategy in terms of draft, waiver wire, and trades.  In a 10 team league I generally keep the same roster unless there is a bye.  This year is gonna be fun can't wait tonget it kicked up.

I don't see that you have voted.

Also the Waiver vote is complete and we now have a second vote on the waiver sub type.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62782628#msg62782628

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?
also IIRC I had Nutildah from earlier stating that he wanted no changes from last year but didnt find that post so there is no link from that but i had already added his votes.




ANYTHING WRONG here just let me know and I'll update.



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* denotes last years setting

1) South Park: Should we change the playoff format?
And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on the most important part of the season?

Playoff spots:

a)4 *
nutildah, hueristic, DireWolfM14, bbc.reporter

b)6
suchmoon, South Park, morvillz7z

c)8

d)abstain
seek3r

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2)DireWolfM14:What do you guys think of having two payouts?  
I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest.  

Payout places
a)1*
morvillz7z, bbc.reporter

b)2*
suchmoon, South Park, DireWolfM14, bbc.reporter, nutildah, Hueristic

c)3


d)MORE

e) abstain
seek3r

*note 1st place was split last year as the death on the field cancelled a game with league players, because of this I am not apllying suchmoon, nutildah's "no change" to this until they confirm.


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3)morvillz7z: replace kicker with a flex spot  

a) yes
morvillz7z

b) no*
suchmoon, nutildah, South Park, DireWolfM14, bbc.reporter

C) don't care/abstain
Hueristic, seek3r

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4) OK now on the waiver method, due to the choices being multifaceted it can become complicated to vote for one.

So the current voting options are.

a)reverse order All done and now in second vote for type of ROS
suchmoon, South Park, morvillz7z, DireWolfM14, nutildah, Hueristic

b)continuous rolling*


c) don't care/abstain
bbc.reporter, seek3r


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Link to votes:
1.  ChiBitCTy
2.  Hhampuz
3.  morvillz7z      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62767298#msg62767298
4.  seek3r           https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62768039#msg62768039
5.  South Park     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62767253#msg62767253
6.  yahoo62278
7.  suchmoon      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62766929#msg62766929
8.  nutildah         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62785600#msg62785600
9.  DireWolfM14  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62767367#msg62767367
10.  Hueristic      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62766844#msg62766844
11.  wheelz1200
12.  bbc.reporter https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62767788#msg62767788

So to boil it down this is what you still have to vote on.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62782628#msg62782628


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* denotes last years setting

1) South Park: Should we change the playoff format?
And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on the most important part of the season?

Playoff spots:

a)4 *
nutildah, hueristic, DireWolfM14, bbc.reporter

b)6
suchmoon, South Park, morvillz7z

c)8

d)abstain
seek3r

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2)DireWolfM14:What do you guys think of having two payouts?  
I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest.  

Payout places
a)1*
morvillz7z, bbc.reporter

b)2*
suchmoon, South Park, DireWolfM14, bbc.reporter, nutildah, Hueristic

c)3


d)MORE

e) abstain
seek3r

*note 1st place was split last year as the death on the field cancelled a game with league players, because of this I am not apllying suchmoon, nutildah's "no change" to this until they confirm.


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3)morvillz7z: replace kicker with a flex spot  

a) yes
morvillz7z

b) no*
suchmoon, nutildah, South Park, DireWolfM14, bbc.reporter

C) don't care/abstain
Hueristic, seek3r


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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62786645#msg62786645

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4) Reverse Order of Standings type:

1) Basic Reverse Order of Standings

2) Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings (advanced Reverse Order of Standings)

bbc.reporter


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[nutildah]

4) Reverse Order of Standings type:

1) Basic Reverse Order of Standings

2) Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings (advanced Reverse Order of Standings)

bbc.reporter

#2 for me as well, thanks... I like that concept, its a good idea. See y'all in about 20 hours.

[suchmoon]

About Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings waiver priority

This priority is the same as the "Reverse Order of Standings" waiver priority, except that when a manager's claim is successful, that manager drops to the bottom of the priority list.

I vote for this.

[Hueristic]

Updated votes.

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Reverse Order of Standings type:

1) Basic Reverse Order of Standings

2) Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings (advanced Reverse Order of Standings)

bbc.reporter, nutildah, suchmoon

3) don't care/abstain
Hueristic, seek3r, Hhampuz,  yahoo62278, ChiBitCTy, wheelz1200

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If I got any of this wrong let me know.

[ChiBitCTy]

Im good with the majority.

Lookin forward to joining you all in the war room here in a bit ladies and gents! This truly is the most magical time of the year 🙌 😄


Edit: I’ve had had two drafts so far. Both went so so. Hoping to have a much better draft this afternoon!

[wheelz1200]

For my votes

Keep kicker
6 team playoff

All others I'm good with the majority of the votes from the collective group.

And last can I get that discord link so I can start trash talking ya'll.  Can't wait first of 3 drafts for me.  Just Remember to get your kickers and defense early.  See you all there!

[Hueristic]

Im good with the majority.

Lookin forward to joining you all in the war room here in a bit ladies and gents! This truly is the most magical time of the year 🙌 😄


Edit: I’ve had had two drafts so far. Both went so so. Hoping to have a much better draft this afternoon!

Ha, I did one yesterday and did not like the outcome (first pick too), hope this one goes better!

For my votes

Keep kicker
6 team playoff

All others I'm good with the majority of the votes from the collective group.

And last can I get that discord link so I can start trash talking ya'll.  Can't wait first of 3 drafts for me.  Just Remember to get your kickers and defense early.  See you all there!

PM DW for the discord invite.


Hhampuz abstained on discord.


OK everyone all votes are in and final league settings are set.


You guys recheck my work and make sure everything is as it should be but I'm pretty sure I have everything tallied correctly and set correctly.

[suchmoon]

Drafting Josh Jacobs is bad karma. Just saying.

[bbc.reporter]

I question my decision on drafting Deshaun Watson instead of Trevor Lawrence for by qb1. I wish he is allowed his regular schedule of power massages before practice similar to when he was in Houston. It is good for the mind hehehe.

I also hope the draft for Cooper Kupp on 4th round will be worth the risk.

In any case, this is my cheatsheet.

Justin Jefferson
Christian McCaffrey
Ja’Marr Chase
Tyreek Hill
Austin Ekeler
Tony Pollard
Nick Chubb
Travis Kelce
Davante Adams
Saquon Barkley
Derrick Henry
Stefon Diggs
CeeDee Lamb
Amon-Ra St. Brown
Bijan Robinson
Cooper Kupp
Joe Mixon
A.J. Brown
Jaylen Waddle
Tee Higgins
Garrett Wilson
Calvin Ridley
DeVonta Smith
Chris Olave
Josh Jacobs
Rhamondre Stevenson
Najee Harris
DK Metcalf
Chris Godwin
Cam Akers
Alvin Kamara
Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen
Jalen Hurts
DeAndre Hopkins
Christian Watson
Mark Andrews
Darren Waller
James Cook
Travis Etienne
Alexander Mattison
TJ Hockenson
JK Dobbins
Dameon Pierce
Jahmyr Gibbs
Javonte Williams
Mike Williams
Mike Evans
Amari Cooper
Deebo Samuel
Brandon Aiyuk
Marquise Brown
Keenan Allen
Drake London
DJ Moore
Aaron Jones
Lamar Jackson
Justin Fields
Joe Burrow
Breece Hall
Miles Sanders
George Kittle
Kyle Pitts
Dallas Goedert
Isiah Pacheco
Kenneth Walker
Rachaad White
Khalil Herbert
James Conner
Michael Thomas
Terry McLaurin
Diontae Johnson
Dalvin Cook
Michael Pittman
Tyler Lockett
George Pickens
Jerry Jeudy
Christian Kirk
Jahan Dotson
Justin Herbert
Trevor Lawrence
Anthony Richardson
DeShaun Watson
Daniel Jones
Jordan Addison
Gabriel Davis
Brandin Cooks
Zay Flowers
David Montgomery
Jonathan Taylor
Jamaal Williams
Rashaad Penny
Samaje Perine
D’Andre Swift
Elijah Mitchell
AJ Dillon
Jerick McKinnon
Antonio Gibson
Raheem Mostert
Brian Robinson
Kenneth Gainwell
Zach Charbonnet
Ju-Ju Smith Schuster
Treylon Burks
Odell Beckham Jr.
Rashod Bateman
Allen Lazard
Courtland Sutton
Quentin Johnson
Skyy Moore
Pat Freiermuth
Tyler Higbee
Evan Engram
Jayden Reed
Tyler Boyd
Nico Collins
Jaxon Smith-Njigba
Jaylen Warren
Tyler Allgeier
Deon Jackson
Damien Harris
Devin Singletary
Tank Bigsby
D’Onta Foreman
Kadarius Toney
Elijah Moore
Robert Woods
Jacobi Meyers
Marquez Valdes-Scantling
Jalin Hyatt
Rashid Shaheed
Michael Gallup
Isaiah Hodgins
Tank Dell
DeVante Parker
Van Jefferson
Cordarrelle Patterson
Chuba Hubbard
Kendre Miller
Clyde Edwards-Helaire
De’Von Achane
Tyjae Spears
Roschon Johnson
Rico Dowdle
Evan Hull
Chase Brown
Corey Davis
Romeo Doubs
Puka Nacua
Jeff Wilson

[Hueristic]

Drafting Josh Jacobs is bad karma. Just saying.

Hah, Tough choice between him and Henry!

Man when you stole Rachaad White out from under me I was seriously bummed, though I had him locked and loaded!

We got each other week one and I can't Decide between Monty and Herbert.


Mostert is a must start as J.Wilson went On IR.

I question my decision on drafting Deshaun Watson instead of Trevor Lawrence for by qb1. I wish he is allowed his regular schedule of power massages before practice similar to when he was in Houston. It is good for the mind hehehe.

Watson is a SERIOUS gamble and I would not play him until he proves himself.

Just a bit of advice.

I also hope the draft for Cooper Kupp on 4th round will be worth the risk.

In any case, this is my cheatsheet.
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yeah, I took Kupp in the second last night not knowing he was injured. I faded the fuck the last 2 years because he fucked me with an injury and now he did it again!

I think the 4th is fair though as he should be fine in a few weeks and hes just a target monster as Stafford is a one trick pony.

Not sure who did your cheat sheet but I don't like alot of the order in those tiers.

[morvillz7z]

I don't dislike my team at all this year! Never really expected to land JJettas at 1.03 or CeeDee Lamb at 2.10. Out of 20ish mock drafts completed not once did i have the chance to draft either one. I'm also banking on Todd Monken and the Ravens offense with Lamar and Andrews stack, expect them to be a top 5-8 offense. Very thin on RBs but who cares about RBs anymore?...certainly not NFL GMs. 

Rest of the teams i dig ChiBitCTy and Mr's Mind-Blowing Team (whom i have to face in Week 1; Allen/Chase/Adams vs. Lamar/Jefferson/Lamb).

[bbc.reporter]

I question my decision on drafting Deshaun Watson instead of Trevor Lawrence for by qb1. I wish he is allowed his regular schedule of power massages before practice similar to when he was in Houston. It is good for the mind hehehe.

Watson is a SERIOUS gamble and I would not play him until he proves himself.

Just a bit of advice.

I also hope the draft for Cooper Kupp on 4th round will be worth the risk.

In any case, this is my cheatsheet.
{snip}

yeah, I took Kupp in the second last night not knowing he was injured. I faded the fuck the last 2 years because he fucked me with an injury and now he did it again!

I think the 4th is fair though as he should be fine in a few weeks and hes just a target monster as Stafford is a one trick pony.

Not sure who did your cheat sheet but I don't like alot of the order in those tiers.

It was because I knew I cannot draft Mahomes, Hurts, Josh Allen and I was also thinking if I cannot draft the lower ranked quarterbacks Burrow, Herbert, Fields or Lamar, the risk on Lawrence will not give me a higher chance to get more points per week. Deshaun Watson might give me some winners, however.

My other problem, my backup qb is Stafford hehehehehe.

[Hueristic]

I question my decision on drafting Deshaun Watson instead of Trevor Lawrence for by qb1. I wish he is allowed his regular schedule of power massages before practice similar to when he was in Houston. It is good for the mind hehehe.

Watson is a SERIOUS gamble and I would not play him until he proves himself.

Just a bit of advice.

I also hope the draft for Cooper Kupp on 4th round will be worth the risk.

In any case, this is my cheatsheet.
{snip}

yeah, I took Kupp in the second last night not knowing he was injured. I faded the fuck the last 2 years because he fucked me with an injury and now he did it again!

I think the 4th is fair though as he should be fine in a few weeks and hes just a target monster as Stafford is a one trick pony.

Not sure who did your cheat sheet but I don't like alot of the order in those tiers.

It was because I knew I cannot draft Mahomes, Hurts, Josh Allen and I was also thinking if I cannot draft the lower ranked quarterbacks Burrow, Herbert, Fields or Lamar, the risk on Lawrence will not give me a higher chance to get more points per week. Deshaun Watson might give me some winners, however.

My other problem, my backup qb is Stafford hehehehehe.

ROTFLMFAO!

I'm sorry I didn't notice that before writing that.

Just fucking drop Stafford, no-one wants him.

*shit I just checked the wire and there is literal shit for QB's for week 1.

guess your just gonna have to cross your fingers on Massage Watson.

Luckily he has a great Matchup week one so you will find out right away if he's a bust or not.