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December 03, 2020, 05:13:55 PM
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I verify each time I lose since I am scary there was a trick.
what I learned from a bad experience with a dice site (bet king) is that if a site make a decision (like deleting a promotion without reason) you can't do anything...
so if they are already cheating rolling verification ( I remember just one case to be honest another site some years ago) there isn't to much to do Sad

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December 03, 2020, 10:14:57 PM
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Well, this topic should always be available and accessible not only in this forum on every gambling site as well for it is really helpful to gamblers in understanding how the provable fair really works. I must admit that I only have a minimal idea about it but because of this thread, --I can identify now if I am being cheated or not, and somehow identify my chances of winning in every game that I will be placing my bet. I just wonder how a gambling site would react if their players could identify their provable fair especially to those who have hidden agenda on their casinos.









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December 03, 2020, 10:32:43 PM
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Looking for a fair gambling site is one of the criteria that I am looking for, therefore I will verify every bet on the gambling site that I use.
To make sure the provably fair actually goes according to what each gambling site promised. It's not that hard to check a provably fair anyway,
there are many tutorials scattered on the internet.

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December 03, 2020, 10:38:34 PM
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Really not all my bet I verify, in fact its very very rare to see someone who verify he or her bet but verification of bet is a tangible ideology for serious gambler's so it will enable them to avoid losing games via gamble, and it's obvious that if a gambler is one hundred percentage (100%) people playing bet and is obvious that is only ten percentage out of hundred people will have the ideas of verification of bet. I think these ideas of verification is a welcomed development in terms of gambling.

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December 03, 2020, 11:47:28 PM
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Well not all are there to find reputable and popular site sometimes we are aiming to try newer gambling site for experience and other entertainment place to enjoy.

Why not it's ok to support up and coming gambling sites, we are a small community and we need new players in the gambling casinos industry to strengthen the industry, but we must be careful in picking new gambling casinos, I prefer new gambling casinos that can launch a signature campaign, this is to assure the gambling community that they are serious in making their presence felt and wants to be competitive.
Im not really seeing that having signature campaign would be a solid indication about seriousness of a certain gambling site business because they might not have signature
campaign on this forum but they are active on other promotions that had been done on other ways like social media etc.

This market is vastly open when it comes to new services and platforms do come out even though the competition is really very high and the chance of success isnt really that high
due to lots of competitors but it isnt really worth to try as a business owner.

When it comes on verifying bets then most like this do happen on initial phase but when initial players had already proven out
that the site is fair then most of next players wont really be minding much on verifying everything.

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December 04, 2020, 12:22:39 AM
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I don't find the need to verify each bet I makes in the most site I play in because most of them are the most popular and reputable gambling websites online right now. Having a site that is established in the gambling world in the internet I feel confident that each bets I make with them is fair and square. But whenever I'm gonna play on a newly opened website this is where I feel the need that I must check the sites fairness before playing in there just to prove if they are really offering a fair service.


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December 04, 2020, 02:16:20 AM
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It’s unfortunate that the internet is full of so many scam gambling scheme and it’s important to verify every bet as  gamblers it’s really going to painful to be ripped of a fund intended to used to gamble. There are lots of scam gambling site in the internet and it’s necessary to look out for these fake site so one don’t fall victim.

Well I have seen a handful of people who will prefer to play gamble in newly developed gamble site than the well reputable site. In their opinion they believe playing gamble in a newly developed gambling site gives them more odds and advantage to win but IK all its important to see the site fairness before venturing.

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December 04, 2020, 04:18:18 AM
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It’s unfortunate that the internet is full of so many scam gambling scheme and it’s important to verify every bet as  gamblers it’s really going to painful to be ripped of a fund intended to used to gamble. There are lots of scam gambling site in the internet and it’s necessary to look out for these fake site so one don’t fall victim.

Well I have seen a handful of people who will prefer to play gamble in newly developed gamble site than the well reputable site. In their opinion they believe playing gamble in a newly developed gambling site gives them more odds and advantage to win but IK all its important to see the site fairness before venturing.
I get different cases in my country almost gambling site have been scam or block by government, so have looking for new way with active VPN for log in to gambling site. Maybe with scam gambling site depend how popular is it and never interest with new gambling site without have good reputation, only active on old site gambling like stake, primedice and betnomi because on this forum very popular above gambling site. I not brave to try with new gambling site because worry when deposit success and we win on betting but could not cash out our money from gambling site, so keep use with popular gambling site for playing.

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December 04, 2020, 05:51:41 AM
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I am glad you guys are finding the thread helpful. However, the link in my personal text i.e. NotYourKeys.org is not my site. Credit where credit's due - the site belongs to the forum user - 'cryptosec.info'. He posted the ANN here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287314.0.

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December 05, 2020, 01:31:43 AM
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I am not sure if I can check or verify the gambling site from the OP guide as I am only playing gambling on a random day, and I don't need to check to details. I don't know much about the provable system, but that is a good guide that will be useful for someone who wants to verify by themselves. However, I think the provable system itself is fair for every member, and I don't think that the reputable gambling site will cheat their members because that will have a bad effect on the website itself.
Mostly you are similar with me that I also playing gambling on random day whenever I have some free time then I use it as entertainment purposes and I am leaning.

You mentioned that reputed gambling sites will never cheat with their customers. Why they would do that? They have real customer base and they are successful to make their project, so it is a platform which is not easy to make a better one. It's common thing, their has legal license to do business. They will not cheat with their customer.

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December 05, 2020, 12:16:25 PM
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Yes, I always verify my bet in the gambling center which is really helping me to see some error in my gambling to be corrected immediately in the gambling center. During the pandemic, it hard me to win most of my bet just because I don't verify my bet before playing them, which has been causing me serious lose during the pandemic.
Since we came out from pandemic, I always verify my bet before playing them to see some error to be correct in the gambling center before playing the game which is really helping me to win most of my game since we came out from pandemic.

I do not often check or say rarely do it just because in the end its a luck in many games which help you win it. Also, what is the outcome like how many times were you able to report the error of the total bets you verified because at times you may bet a lot like in dice etc so cannot go and verify each bet.

If you make like 100 bets, I think that's 100 times of verification, it's too time consuming, a reputable site would not attempt to scam their bettors, otherwise they will loss their opportunity to make money. In games like luck based games, sites always offers a way to verify it's fairness, but I believe majority of the bettors would not bother to verify their bets, unless maybe they risk a big amount of money in a bet.

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December 05, 2020, 05:56:30 PM
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Gambling is usually based on experience although gambling for entertainment does not require checking every bet it often requires the right idea it is not possible to choose an alternative method of gambling without experience. There are many popular gambling sites that do not need to be verified everyone plays according to their choice and enjoys gradually they can choose the best betting site.
maybe at first specially if the Site is new to us,better check the Fairness of the gambling site by checking how fair are they.
This is for our own benefits because we must not give consent to Cheater ,remember how much Money is involve here,,Maybe we are small players but what about those who spend thousand and millions ,they deserve to be treated fairly.
This is true, when we verify our bets not only we are doing it for ourselves we are doing it for every single member of the community that can be saved of losing their money unfairly in a casino that has decided to cheat, and if we happen to discover some irregularity even if it is too late for us we can warn the community about it in most likely save a person a lot of money and on the long term this kind of attitude will help us to begin to clean the community from scammers.

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December 05, 2020, 11:55:38 PM
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Gambling is usually based on experience although gambling for entertainment does not require checking every bet it often requires the right idea it is not possible to choose an alternative method of gambling without experience. There are many popular gambling sites that do not need to be verified everyone plays according to their choice and enjoys gradually they can choose the best betting site.
maybe at first specially if the Site is new to us,better check the Fairness of the gambling site by checking how fair are they.
This is for our own benefits because we must not give consent to Cheater ,remember how much Money is involve here,,Maybe we are small players but what about those who spend thousand and millions ,they deserve to be treated fairly.
This is true, when we verify our bets not only we are doing it for ourselves we are doing it for every single member of the community that can be saved of losing their money unfairly in a casino that has decided to cheat, and if we happen to discover some irregularity even if it is too late for us we can warn the community about it in most likely save a person a lot of money and on the long term this kind of attitude will help us to begin to clean the community from scammers.

People would really be having that kind of reaction or some sort of responsibility on telling the public about the possible rigging off some websites games and would able to warn
others so that they wont be losing money if they do decide to make a deposit.

Some people do test out waters with small amounts specially if a new one and do give out feedback when they do observe something
unusual.

Unless if you do like for others to lose money then that would be an unethical thing to be done.

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December 07, 2020, 09:35:44 AM
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Yes, I always verify my bet in the gambling center which is really helping me to see some error in my gambling to be corrected immediately in the gambling center. During the pandemic, it hard me to win most of my bet just because I don't verify my bet before playing them, which has been causing me serious lose during the pandemic.
Since we came out from pandemic, I always verify my bet before playing them to see some error to be correct in the gambling center before playing the game which is really helping me to win most of my game since we came out from pandemic.

I do not often check or say rarely do it just because in the end its a luck in many games which help you win it. Also, what is the outcome like how many times were you able to report the error of the total bets you verified because at times you may bet a lot like in dice etc so cannot go and verify each bet.

If you make like 100 bets, I think that's 100 times of verification, it's too time consuming, a reputable site would not attempt to scam their bettors, otherwise they will loss their opportunity to make money. In games like luck based games, sites always offers a way to verify it's fairness, but I believe majority of the bettors would not bother to verify their bets, unless maybe they risk a big amount of money in a bet.
Maybe if we are playing gambling on a reputable site, we can do that because the site will not try to cheat their members.
Once the site is caught doing that, they will lose their members and of course, they will lose their opportunity to make money.
But in the new gambling site, we don't have to verify if we only gamble for fun.
Not many gamblers who use a big amount of money to gamble will verify every bet because some will think that is time-consuming.
If they verify their bets, that mean they can not enjoy their time playing gambling games.

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December 07, 2020, 09:40:37 AM
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Maybe if we are playing gambling on a reputable site, we can do that because the site will not try to cheat their members.
Once the site is caught doing that, they will lose their members and of course, they will lose their opportunity to make money.
But in the new gambling site, we don't have to verify if we only gamble for fun.
Not many gamblers who use a big amount of money to gamble will verify every bet because some will think that is time-consuming.
If they verify their bets, that mean they can not enjoy their time playing gambling games.

I agree that it's not worth verifying every bets if you are on reputable gambling site. But you should never gamble on a site whether new or old that does not provide the way for proving the legitimacy of the bet. Even if you are playing for fun. Any gambling site that are not provably fair should be avoided. Proving the fairness is the basic precursor for legitimacy.

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December 07, 2020, 10:05:16 AM
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Never though that BTCGOSU have these kind of verifier and it covers most of the casinos. Now I would be able to check whether my bets are fair or not most of the time when I was losing I was feeling cheated and this would be a great way to verify them.

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December 07, 2020, 11:07:27 AM
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Never though that BTCGOSU have these kind of verifier and it covers most of the casinos. Now I would be able to check whether my bets are fair or not most of the time when I was losing I was feeling cheated and this would be a great way to verify them.

It was released few months ago and yes you can check it in Btcgosu I really like that verifier since sometimes I don't trust the built-in verifier from the website I'm playing luckily I can double check it here in this third party verifier.

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December 07, 2020, 07:49:02 PM
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Never though that BTCGOSU have these kind of verifier and it covers most of the casinos. Now I would be able to check whether my bets are fair or not most of the time when I was losing I was feeling cheated and this would be a great way to verify them.
Yeah, among all of the sites that do have reviews then theres no doubt that BTCGOSU did really make a good job on doing these things.

This isnt something like that we do typically see on a site which do only focuses on ref links or what. You can verify bets which arent that are
mostly integrated on most sites.

Same like others im not really that too confident on satisfied if they do say that theyre fair.

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December 08, 2020, 06:04:59 AM
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Thanks to these I can now verify my bets when I have time.
I do feel that some gambling site are manipulating the game so we could now know if they are really doing it or we are just really unlucky gambler for losing continuously.
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December 08, 2020, 06:39:18 AM
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Maybe if we are playing gambling on a reputable site, we can do that because the site will not try to cheat their members.
Once the site is caught doing that, they will lose their members and of course, they will lose their opportunity to make money.
But in the new gambling site, we don't have to verify if we only gamble for fun.
Not many gamblers who use a big amount of money to gamble will verify every bet because some will think that is time-consuming.
If they verify their bets, that mean they can not enjoy their time playing gambling games.

I agree that it's not worth verifying every bets if you are on reputable gambling site. But you should never gamble on a site whether new or old that does not provide the way for proving the legitimacy of the bet. Even if you are playing for fun. Any gambling site that are not provably fair should be avoided. Proving the fairness is the basic precursor for legitimacy.
But still, some gamblers will do that to convince themselves about the provably fair.
It will not be a problem for them because they want to know for themselves, but they will not take it seriously for a regular gambler.
Many people who consider gambling are entertainment will not bother about that because they don't think hard about that.
You can avoid playing gambling on a gambling site that doesn't have a reputation or in the new gambling site because you don't know if that site has provably fair or not.

Thanks to these I can now verify my bets when I have time.
I do feel that some gambling site are manipulating the game so we could now know if they are really doing it or we are just really unlucky gambler for losing continuously.
I guess that is because we are an unlucky gambler that makes us lose money, so be careful if you play gambling.
As long as you don't play at a gambling site that doesn't have a reputation, you will not have to worry about manipulating the game.
But the gambling site can manipulate the game without we know.

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