[ BOXING POLL ADDED ]: Fury vs Wilder III - THE TRILOGY IS BACK ON !!!

[Natalim]

Tyson Fury was on British television this morning speaking openly about mental health as well as trying to keep focused and keep physically fit while waiting for the fight to take place. He made it clear he would not want to fight unless fans were present.

His promoter (Frank Warren) was also live in the same interview and he said the Fury-Wilder II fight had the largest gate receipts in the history of boxing and he said they need fans present in the stadium or arena otherwise the fight simply could not go ahead.

They do really plan to resume the fight when this pandemic is over and they do much prefer that this would be done in front of lots of fans which is understandable.

Neither this do talks about revenue and at the same time the ambiance is totally different when a great fight do happen in an empty stadium compared to which its been filled up with people.

I do understand their side.So it doesn't matter if this one would be a long wait.

I guess we can't expect that this fight will happen anytime soon, the fact that Fury wants the fans to see the fight, this means it won't happen until the vaccine is release, if this is currently available now.

Im already expecting for these things to be on next in line even if the vaccine would be available soon but doesn't mean that this would easily resume.To think that vaccine cant really just be
given out directly.There would be still need some lots of trials and test to see it would really be effective and doesn't have any side effects and knowing that this cant be done on a short
span of time.It seems that we would really need to wait up for more years to come when everything goes back to normal.

Lots of people had been anticipating for this fight to happen but who knows if they would changed up their mind specially if its been still hyped up at the moment which they can expect still some
considerable revenue when it comes to payday.It might not be similar in normal days but it would really be just sufficient.If they do really eager or want to fight with have some fans on it
then its expected that this will surely takes time.So the waiting game begins on here. 

The 3rd fight will happen, that's for sure because there was  rematch clause on the contract they both signed, so since Wilder ask for it, Fury will give him the rematch, unless Wilder will change his mind which I doubt.

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[JollyGood]

Yes it will happen, it could have happened a long time ago but Fury made it clear he wants fans inside the arena because it adds to the atmosphere and his promoter said they had record gate receipts for Fury-Wilder II making it having the highest grossing gate receipts in history for a boxing match. His promoter went on to say that a fight without multi-millions of USD$ from gate receipts cannot go ahead. Fury-Wilder II had a 16,800 sell out audience.

If the cannot go ahead for the next 6-8 months because of social distancing at venues then these boxers are losing the prime years of their boxing careers. This is not a good mentally place for them to be as they have no idea when the fight will go ahead.

The 3rd fight will happen, that's for sure because there was  rematch clause on the contract they both signed, so since Wilder ask for it, Fury will give him the rematch, unless Wilder will change his mind which I doubt.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Yes it will happen, it could have happened a long time ago but Fury made it clear he wants fans inside the arena because it adds to the atmosphere and his promoter said they had record gate receipts for Fury-Wilder II making it having the highest grossing gate receipts in history for a boxing match. His promoter went on to say that a fight without multi-millions of USD$ from gate receipts cannot go ahead. Fury-Wilder II had a 16,800 sell out audience.

It's just bad timing though, we understand where they are coming from, after all it will be the biggest event. Actually the second fight has made a lot of money, but I think the trilogy will eclipse it.

If the cannot go ahead for the next 6-8 months because of social distancing at venues then these boxers are losing the prime years of their boxing careers. This is not a good mentally place for them to be as they have no idea when the fight will go ahead.

And that is the downside, and it's going to be a big factor or shall I say excuse for the losers. So it's going to be critical in the next coming months. I don't believed that the hype will die down though, fans are going to wait for as long as they can.

[hilariousetc]

Yes it will happen, it could have happened a long time ago but Fury made it clear he wants fans inside the arena because it adds to the atmosphere and his promoter said they had record gate receipts for Fury-Wilder II making it having the highest grossing gate receipts in history for a boxing match. His promoter went on to say that a fight without multi-millions of USD$ from gate receipts cannot go ahead. Fury-Wilder II had a 16,800 sell out audience.

Adds to the atmosphere... and their wallets. I'm sure the crowd is nice to have, but even in the interview posted above Fury's promoter said it could go ahead in a venue without fans if a country wanted to pay a lot to bring it to their nation... basically if Arabs will pay us millions for it we're open to offers for having it in an empty arena . I'm sure there are countries with differing covid restrictions as well that will allow fans. They're probably going to have to get this fight done sooner rather than later as it's a hurdle to bigger and better things and the real money is in the AJ fights but they can't do them until this rematch is out of the way unless Wilder steps down which I doubt he will.

[Darker45]

If the cannot go ahead for the next 6-8 months because of social distancing at venues then these boxers are losing the prime years of their boxing careers. This is not a good mentally place for them to be as they have no idea when the fight will go ahead.

I don't think the social distancing protocol would hinder this fight with live audience for 6-8 months. But the promoters would have to content themselves with lesser gate entry if it is required that live audience will have to take a seat apart from one another. But if there is a barrier in between seats, then they might get the green light for a full seating capacity.

Either way, the promoters are certainly looking for the best and most profitable ways for this fight to happen in the soonest time possible. If live audience will be limited, they could always expect that PPV buys would be shooting high.

[JollyGood]

Atmosphere over wallet... hmmm which one wins? Wallet definitely.

One thing the fighters will not be able to get back is time. Fury is 32 and Wilder is 34 they need to fight and move on to the next big one against Joshua providing he manages to beat Pulev. Soon both fighters will find themselves too old to continue in the sport therefore need to capitalise on what they can do now.

Yes it will happen, it could have happened a long time ago but Fury made it clear he wants fans inside the arena because it adds to the atmosphere and his promoter said they had record gate receipts for Fury-Wilder II making it having the highest grossing gate receipts in history for a boxing match. His promoter went on to say that a fight without multi-millions of USD$ from gate receipts cannot go ahead. Fury-Wilder II had a 16,800 sell out audience.

Adds to the atmosphere... and their wallets. I'm sure the crowd is nice to have, but even in the interview posted above Fury's promoter said it could go ahead in a venue without fans if a country wanted to pay a lot to bring it to their nation... basically if Arabs will pay us millions for it we're open to offers for having it in an empty arena . I'm sure there are countries with differing covid restrictions as well that will allow fans. They're probably going to have to get this fight done sooner rather than later as it's a hurdle to bigger and better things and the real money is in the AJ fights but they can't do them until this rematch is out of the way unless Wilder steps down which I doubt he will.

[Questat]

That's a very good point, they probably need a big payday prior to their retirement, you know life after boxing is different as they have to work outside boxing or manage their business, that is provided they have good savings or have invested from what they earn during their boxing career.

I guess whoever lose this fight might struggle to find a big fight if he still want to continue fighting, so it's a big fight for both it needs to be big that would satisfy their wallets.

Atmosphere over wallet... hmmm which one wins? Wallet definitely.

One thing the fighters will not be able to get back is time. Fury is 32 and Wilder is 34 they need to fight and move on to the next big one against Joshua providing he manages to beat Pulev. Soon both fighters will find themselves too old to continue in the sport therefore need to capitalise on what they can do now.

Yes it will happen, it could have happened a long time ago but Fury made it clear he wants fans inside the arena because it adds to the atmosphere and his promoter said they had record gate receipts for Fury-Wilder II making it having the highest grossing gate receipts in history for a boxing match. His promoter went on to say that a fight without multi-millions of USD$ from gate receipts cannot go ahead. Fury-Wilder II had a 16,800 sell out audience.

Adds to the atmosphere... and their wallets. I'm sure the crowd is nice to have, but even in the interview posted above Fury's promoter said it could go ahead in a venue without fans if a country wanted to pay a lot to bring it to their nation... basically if Arabs will pay us millions for it we're open to offers for having it in an empty arena . I'm sure there are countries with differing covid restrictions as well that will allow fans. They're probably going to have to get this fight done sooner rather than later as it's a hurdle to bigger and better things and the real money is in the AJ fights but they can't do them until this rematch is out of the way unless Wilder steps down which I doubt he will.

[tippytoes]

That's a very good point, they probably need a big payday prior to their retirement, you know life after boxing is different as they have to work outside boxing or manage their business, that is provided they have good savings or have invested from what they earn during their boxing career.

I guess whoever lose this fight might struggle to find a big fight if he still want to continue fighting, so it's a big fight for both it needs to be big that would satisfy their wallets.

This is maybe the reason why they moved the fight date and hoping that they will get money from the gate, if in case they will be allowed to accept live audience. That's another revenue for the match. Boxing is really not a forever career. At some point, the boxer needs to stop and just live on whatever he made during his boxing career. They need to be smart, otherwise, they will be like those poor boxers that can't even support themselves.

[JollyGood]

Yes the promoters want to maximise their income and gate receipts at the venue are a huge source of income for them but they cannot wait years to arrange the fight because the fighters are getting older and their best years will be behind them.

At some point they must make a compromise over the amount of income just to make the fight happen.

I don't think the social distancing protocol would hinder this fight with live audience for 6-8 months. But the promoters would have to content themselves with lesser gate entry if it is required that live audience will have to take a seat apart from one another. But if there is a barrier in between seats, then they might get the green light for a full seating capacity.

Either way, the promoters are certainly looking for the best and most profitable ways for this fight to happen in the soonest time possible. If live audience will be limited, they could always expect that PPV buys would be shooting high.

[Russlenat]

This is the details of their last fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/jermall-charlo-pursues-recognition-as-a-top-middleweight-in-title-defense-against-sergiy-derevyanchenko/

Per the Nevada State Athletic Commission, the contractually-guaranteed purses for Wilder and Fury are both for $5 million. However, as noted by ESPN's Dan Rafael, both men are actually guaranteed more than $25 million, plus a percentage of the pay-per-view receipts. Those numbers are an increase from their first meeting where the contracted guarantees were $4 million for Wilder and $3 million for Fury. They also stand to make even more money from the rivalry should Wilder initiate their immediate guaranteed rematch clause within 30 days, which would grant a 60-40 purse split in favor of Fury.

As we can see, they did make a good amount of money in the fight number 2, so it's expected that they want to exceed that in fight number 3 and it's impossible to happen without a gate entrance and it's also impossible to make it happen now, unless the fight will not be held in the US.

Yes the promoters want to maximise their income and gate receipts at the venue are a huge source of income for them but they cannot wait years to arrange the fight because the fighters are getting older and their best years will be behind them.

At some point they must make a compromise over the amount of income just to make the fight happen.

I don't think the social distancing protocol would hinder this fight with live audience for 6-8 months. But the promoters would have to content themselves with lesser gate entry if it is required that live audience will have to take a seat apart from one another. But if there is a barrier in between seats, then they might get the green light for a full seating capacity.

Either way, the promoters are certainly looking for the best and most profitable ways for this fight to happen in the soonest time possible. If live audience will be limited, they could always expect that PPV buys would be shooting high.

[Jating]

Someone put a thread about this fight: Tyson Fury’s working out from trilogy fight against Deontay Wilder. Anyway, here is my take on it:


It's really hard to say, maybe the postponement has put a lot of stress on Wilder and as much as he wanted to focus, there could be other things in his mind that he can't do because everything is on the line. They are pose to make a lot of money in this trilogy, but if there are not final date and everything is still up in the air, then better cancel it and let this pandemic settles down a bit. Cancelling it might do better for Wilder, in my opinion.

The trilogy though should happen eventually, 1-0 for Fury and Wilder needs to comeback and make it even and settle to score, nothing is better than boxing than a revenge win and prove yourself.

[stadus]

Someone put a thread about this fight: Tyson Fury’s working out from trilogy fight against Deontay Wilder. Anyway, here is my take on it:


It's really hard to say, maybe the postponement has put a lot of stress on Wilder and as much as he wanted to focus, there could be other things in his mind that he can't do because everything is on the line. They are pose to make a lot of money in this trilogy, but if there are not final date and everything is still up in the air, then better cancel it and let this pandemic settles down a bit. Cancelling it might do better for Wilder, in my opinion.

The trilogy though should happen eventually, 1-0 for Fury and Wilder needs to comeback and make it even and settle to score, nothing is better than boxing than a revenge win and prove yourself.

They can't do nothing on the current situation, they wan't to make money and how is it possible without a crowd. These two are the biggest names in boxing, they can potentially make a lot of money in this trilogy but the timing was really wrong, the only thing they should do now is to continue to be fit for the fight as the moment vaccine is available, we will see a real schedule of this fight.

[Langitngit24]

do not say the end no one knows what will happen in the ring remember the miracle is happen everywhere

[babygun]

Someone put a thread about this fight: Tyson Fury’s working out from trilogy fight against Deontay Wilder. Anyway, here is my take on it:


It's really hard to say, maybe the postponement has put a lot of stress on Wilder and as much as he wanted to focus, there could be other things in his mind that he can't do because everything is on the line. They are pose to make a lot of money in this trilogy, but if there are not final date and everything is still up in the air, then better cancel it and let this pandemic settles down a bit. Cancelling it might do better for Wilder, in my opinion.

The trilogy though should happen eventually, 1-0 for Fury and Wilder needs to comeback and make it even and settle to score, nothing is better than boxing than a revenge win and prove yourself.

The irony would be that Wilder takes on the fight, wins it and levels the score. Than a 4th match will be setup to prove once and for all, who the best fighter of the 2 is.
In my eyes even this 3h fight is unncessary, but it is al about the money   .

[dothebeats]

I don't think this is because of either side's fear to be defeated by the other. Their rivalry is legit and both are a beast on this division. It's just that.. there's no money to be made on this fight and they know that saving it until the crowds are allowed again would be their best bet. They wouldn't want to waste the hype and the anticipation built up by this possible historical fight just to get it over with, and we know damn sure that they also want to make money off of it. All the trashtalk, all the mudslinging and all of these negativities surrounding this fight is just building up the hype for people to want it more to happen.

[AakZaki]

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The trilogy though should happen eventually, 1-0 for Fury and Wilder needs to comeback and make it even and settle to score, nothing is better than boxing than a revenge win and prove yourself.

Trilogy matches I know are not mandatory matches, correct me if I'm wrong. Apart from Wilder's side requesting a rematch, I have heard that so far there has been no response to his own challenge, there is news that Wilder has been injured after his last game. But if it's a match there will be, I think great. Wilder needs proof he is just unlucky and Fury is making preparations before the match with Anthony Joshua.

[BChydro]

Trilogy matches I know are not mandatory matches, correct me if I'm wrong. Apart from Wilder's side requesting a rematch, I have heard that so far there has been no response to his own challenge, there is news that Wilder has been injured after his last game. But if it's a match there will be, I think great. Wilder needs proof he is just unlucky and Fury is making preparations before the match with Anthony Joshua.

The boxing contracts are really weird, Wilder had a mandatory rematch clause in the contract and so is the reason he invoked that immediately. As a fan i am not too keen on watching the trilogy now but it is what it is as the big ego of Wilder will not let it go and in my opinion he needs to fight other talents and then return because a loss against Fury once again will bury his career forever.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Wilder's apparently taken a vow of silence. He has not been heard of in a long time. Fury and his promoters say they no longer have any obligation to have the trilogy fight and are now looking for a new opponent to prepare for him for facing Anthony Joshua next year. I don't think Wilder's team will put up a legal fight to try and force the rematch to happen next. Wilder is still a top 3 heavyweight so his chance will come up again.

[bisdak40]

Wilder's apparently taken a vow of silence. He has not been heard of in a long time. Fury and his promoters say they no longer have any obligation to have the trilogy fight and are now looking for a new opponent to prepare for him for facing Anthony Joshua next year. I don't think Wilder's team will put up a legal fight to try and force the rematch to happen next. Wilder is still a top 3 heavyweight so his chance will come up again.

I think the cancellation of the third fight would be on Wilder's advantage because he need to but some time to bring back the confidence in him as he was battered on their last fight. AFAIK, the rematch clause has expiration so i don't think the camp of Wilder will take a legal action here.

[Questat]

That's a very good point, they probably need a big payday prior to their retirement, you know life after boxing is different as they have to work outside boxing or manage their business, that is provided they have good savings or have invested from what they earn during their boxing career.

I guess whoever lose this fight might struggle to find a big fight if he still want to continue fighting, so it's a big fight for both it needs to be big that would satisfy their wallets.

This is maybe the reason why they moved the fight date and hoping that they will get money from the gate, if in case they will be allowed to accept live audience. That's another revenue for the match. Boxing is really not a forever career. At some point, the boxer needs to stop and just live on whatever he made during his boxing career. They need to be smart, otherwise, they will be like those poor boxers that can't even support themselves.

Of course this is not only limited to the  boxers, but most especially the promoters as well as they are the one who are risking money for this fight and therefore they need to ensure that they'll be a profit after the fight, in short, it's just all about the money as that's what business is for.