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Question: Fury vs Wilder III --- who will win?
Tyson Fury - 69 (80.2%)
Deontay Wilder - 16 (18.6%)
Draw - 1 (1.2%)
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October 09, 2021, 10:42:06 AM
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Whether it's a KO or by Decision, Fury would still win this.

Everyone thinks Fury will win, truth is, i do too. Wilder has increased in weight from the last fight where he was 231 to now 238. To me i think its going to make him more slower than before and get tired more quickly. He already had the power for the fight, what he needed was to develop more speed and stamina. Unless Fury let's his guard down and Wilder has plans for a KO considering the weight gain, he has no chance.

When the public is so unanimous, the odds of the bookmakers are skewed and they are truly skewed now. Wilder is a great puncher, he can knock out any opponent by any hand and the odds of Wilder winning by knockout now are 3.75 But even more ridiculous chances that Wilder will win by decision is 17 (!!!). Maybe the bookmakers have forgotten that in boxing it often happens like this: after being knocked out, a boxer can fight on, but in fact he just endures and waits for the end of the fight, why can't this situation happen again today?

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October 09, 2021, 01:07:51 PM
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Whether it's a KO or by Decision, Fury would still win this.

Everyone thinks Fury will win, truth is, i do too. Wilder has increased in weight from the last fight where he was 231 to now 238. To me i think its going to make him more slower than before and get tired more quickly. He already had the power for the fight, what he needed was to develop more speed and stamina. Unless Fury let's his guard down and Wilder has plans for a KO considering the weight gain, he has no chance.

When the public is so unanimous, the odds of the bookmakers are skewed and they are truly skewed now. Wilder is a great puncher, he can knock out any opponent by any hand and the odds of Wilder winning by knockout now are 3.75 But even more ridiculous chances that Wilder will win by decision is 17 (!!!). Maybe the bookmakers have forgotten that in boxing it often happens like this: after being knocked out, a boxer can fight on, but in fact he just endures and waits for the end of the fight, why can't this situation happen again today?

I guess the betting line makes sense, if this will go to the judges' scorecards, Wilder will not likely win as he doesn't throw more punches, the best chance for him to win is if he could hurt Fury and will KO him.

On the odds now from Sportsbet, I think I will try to put a little bet to entertain myself a bit more on Wilder to KO Fury in between round 1-3, and the odds is 16.00. I also like the possibility of a draw which has an odds of 22.00 now.
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October 09, 2021, 02:08:05 PM
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When the public is so unanimous, the odds of the bookmakers are skewed and they are truly skewed now. Wilder is a great puncher, he can knock out any opponent by any hand and the odds of Wilder winning by knockout now are 3.75 But even more ridiculous chances that Wilder will win by decision is 17 (!!!). Maybe the bookmakers have forgotten that in boxing it often happens like this: after being knocked out, a boxer can fight on, but in fact he just endures and waits for the end of the fight, why can't this situation happen again today?

I guess the betting line makes sense, if this will go to the judges' scorecards, Wilder will not likely win as he doesn't throw more punches, the best chance for him to win is if he could hurt Fury and will KO him.

On the odds now from Sportsbet, I think I will try to put a little bet to entertain myself a bit more on Wilder to KO Fury in between round 1-3, and the odds is 16.00. I also like the possibility of a draw which has an odds of 22.00 now.

If Wilder knocks out Fury, but he can get up and continue the fight, then Wilder will have to win even according to the court notes, firstly because of the fact of the knockout, and secondly, because the boxer after the knockout is usually passive for at least several rounds and the opponent can easily score points. As for a draw, it seems to me that this is a very unlikely scenario, the problem is that there is an obvious favorite and the reigning champion - Fury, so even if there is equality or a slight advantage of Wilder in the ring, the victory will still be given to Fury.

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October 09, 2021, 02:32:53 PM
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When the public is so unanimous, the odds of the bookmakers are skewed and they are truly skewed now. Wilder is a great puncher, he can knock out any opponent by any hand and the odds of Wilder winning by knockout now are 3.75 But even more ridiculous chances that Wilder will win by decision is 17 (!!!). Maybe the bookmakers have forgotten that in boxing it often happens like this: after being knocked out, a boxer can fight on, but in fact he just endures and waits for the end of the fight, why can't this situation happen again today?

I guess the betting line makes sense, if this will go to the judges' scorecards, Wilder will not likely win as he doesn't throw more punches, the best chance for him to win is if he could hurt Fury and will KO him.

On the odds now from Sportsbet, I think I will try to put a little bet to entertain myself a bit more on Wilder to KO Fury in between round 1-3, and the odds is 16.00. I also like the possibility of a draw which has an odds of 22.00 now.

If Wilder knocks out Fury, but he can get up and continue the fight, then Wilder will have to win even according to the court notes, firstly because of the fact of the knockout, and secondly, because the boxer after the knockout is usually passive for at least several rounds and the opponent can easily score points. As for a draw, it seems to me that this is a very unlikely scenario, the problem is that there is an obvious favorite and the reigning champion - Fury, so even if there is equality or a slight advantage of Wilder in the ring, the victory will still be given to Fury.
Fury has already been knocked down a couple of times in his career and I have never seen him be shaky after being knocked down and that is including the big hit of Wilder that he had in the 1st fight. I think Fury needs to knock Wilder out if he wants to win tonight because you are always risking the result when you leave it to the judges to decide the winner. If we have a draw again I do not want to see another fight if Fury loses I do not want to see another fight. We have already seen them fight each other 2 times and it will be a 3rd tonight and I think we already know who the better boxer is.
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October 09, 2021, 04:01:24 PM
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It is hard to argue with that opinion if people believe it. Wilder will need to be on top of the fight from the get go have any chance of trying to beat Fury. It looks like an impossible task but Wilder is hungry for revenge and with that right hand punch of his he will believe he can do it. For most others, it seems Fury is the only winner of this fight.

Everyone thinks Fury will win, truth is, i do too. Wilder has increased in weight from the last fight where he was 231 to now 238. To me i think its going to make him more slower than before and get tired more quickly. He already had the power for the fight, what he needed was to develop more speed and stamina. Unless Fury let's his guard down and Wilder has plans for a KO considering the weight gain, he has no chance.

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October 09, 2021, 05:38:55 PM
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I don’t really watch boxing much anymore except for the biggest matches but I feel like there’s so much value in the under 7.5 rounds lined close to a pickem.  And I saw the weigh ins...  Both fighters weighed heavier than their past matches vs each other.  This could be a banger imo and somebody could get KO’d early.  But then again, a lesser weight cut means the chin is more solid.

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October 09, 2021, 05:43:56 PM
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I don’t really watch boxing much anymore except for the biggest matches but I feel like there’s so much value in the under 7.5 rounds lined close to a pickem.  And I saw the weigh ins...  Both fighters weighed heavier than their past matches vs each other.  This could be a banger imo and somebody could get KO’d early.  But then again, a lesser weight cut means the chin is more solid.
They wont be called heavywieghts if theyre not that heavy.lol. Joke aside then its true that added up that weight would have some significant impact towards their speed but well i do really expect with those kind of
jabs and movements given specially on this division which wont really matter that much.You could really expect those a bit sloppy kind of movements which it isnt surprising.
Im wondering on whatever reason Wilder would might have be if he would lose up again this time.I did actually laugh in the past on how this fella give out those reasoning.

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October 09, 2021, 05:55:12 PM
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^  If they’re putting on more weight, I think it means they’re going for more power, not speed.  And it also means they could start knocking each other’s head off from the get go.  And an added benefit of more weight, less weight cut is a more solid chin...  And they both already felt each other’s power.  Lol.  They’ll need the added weight.  Cheesy

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October 09, 2021, 06:12:04 PM
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It is hard to argue with that opinion if people believe it. Wilder will need to be on top of the fight from the get go have any chance of trying to beat Fury. It looks like an impossible task but Wilder is hungry for revenge and with that right hand punch of his he will believe he can do it. For most others, it seems Fury is the only winner of this fight.
What happens if the fight goes the distance, the judges are always shady in boxing and you cannot expect a fair decision, When it comes to boxing skills there is no way you cannot compare Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder because Fury dominated 19 rounds and the Wilder will be waiting for him to land the one punch and Fury is smart enough to change his tactics mid fight and i want to see him win without going to the judges.
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October 09, 2021, 06:44:01 PM
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^  If they’re putting on more weight, I think it means they’re going for more power, not speed.  And it also means they could start knocking each other’s head off from the get go.  And an added benefit of more weight, less weight cut is a more solid chin...  And they both already felt each other’s power.  Lol.  They’ll need the added weight.  Cheesy

It's an effective game plan by Fury in the second fight, he put in more point because he was telling us that he was going to knock out Wilder, but no one believes him but himself. But we saw what happen to the rematch and he did win by knock out.

So probably the say in the trilogy, the good thing about Fury is that he can carry that weight and still box and dance around.

We will see if Wilder with almost more than a year preparation, enough time to lay out a new plan with his new trainer/coach to go for that one punch that will knock out Fury.
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October 09, 2021, 08:13:52 PM
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Tyson Fury black outfit for weight-ins reminded me on Undertaker with his hat and t-shirt, and Wilder is again complaining about glove tampering and cheating from Fury, but this is only proving he is afraid of Fury, and maybe he wants to mentally affect Fury Cheesy


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When the public is so unanimous, the odds of the bookmakers are skewed and they are truly skewed now. Wilder is a great puncher, he can knock out any opponent by any hand and the odds of Wilder winning by knockout now are 3.75 But even more ridiculous chances that Wilder will win by decision is 17 (!!!). Maybe the bookmakers have forgotten that in boxing it often happens like this: after being knocked out, a boxer can fight on, but in fact he just endures and waits for the end of the fight, why can't this situation happen again today?

I guess the betting line makes sense, if this will go to the judges' scorecards, Wilder will not likely win as he doesn't throw more punches, the best chance for him to win is if he could hurt Fury and will KO him.

On the odds now from Sportsbet, I think I will try to put a little bet to entertain myself a bit more on Wilder to KO Fury in between round 1-3, and the odds is 16.00. I also like the possibility of a draw which has an odds of 22.00 now.

If Wilder knocks out Fury, but he can get up and continue the fight, then Wilder will have to win even according to the court notes, firstly because of the fact of the knockout, and secondly, because the boxer after the knockout is usually passive for at least several rounds and the opponent can easily score points. As for a draw, it seems to me that this is a very unlikely scenario, the problem is that there is an obvious favorite and the reigning champion - Fury, so even if there is
He would not get up anymore if he gets knocked out because that means the fight is over, but if no one gets knock out, a draw is still possible as in their first fight of this trilogy, Fury was knocked down once and that give points to Wilder on why he was able to make the fight resulted in a draw.

They both felt their power, and therefore they should be careful as this fight might not last long due to the added weight which will result in more power.
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October 09, 2021, 08:39:19 PM
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Tyson Fury black outfit for weight-ins reminded me on Undertaker with his hat and t-shirt, and Wilder is again complaining about glove tampering and cheating from Fury, but this is only proving he is afraid of Fury, and maybe he wants to mentally affect Fury Cheesy
Thanks for the share up mate and i did really enjoy seeing those behind the scenes and it turns out that Fury is heavier for 4 pounds than Wilder but having 1+kg additional wont really be that much of an issue or problem.

Yeah that undertaker-like outfit does suit him up and i cant really wait for this fight to happen.Hope that there wont be some non sense reasoning that would come from the mouth of Wilder
but looking him on weigh-ins it turns out that he's quite confident for this upcoming fight. Hmmmm

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October 09, 2021, 09:09:36 PM
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Tyson Fury black outfit for weight-ins reminded me on Undertaker with his hat and t-shirt, and Wilder is again complaining about glove tampering and cheating from Fury, but this is only proving he is afraid of Fury, and maybe he wants to mentally affect Fury Cheesy
Thanks for the share up mate and i did really enjoy seeing those behind the scenes and it turns out that Fury is heavier for 4 pounds than Wilder but having 1+kg additional wont really be that much of an issue or problem.

Yeah that undertaker-like outfit does suit him up and i cant really wait for this fight to happen.Hope that there wont be some non sense reasoning that would come from the mouth of Wilder
but looking him on weigh-ins it turns out that he's quite confident for this upcoming fight. Hmmmm
Whatever excuse he would say would not anymore get sympathy from the fans, we know already what he can do and in their last 2 fights, we know who dominate although in the first fight some judgest doesn't see that Fury proved it in the rematch. Now, on the 3rd fight, this is the conclusion and if Fury would still win, regardless of how, I think the talks between the two will be over, and Fury will move to fight a champion.

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October 09, 2021, 10:06:30 PM
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Whatever excuse he would say would not anymore get sympathy from the fans, we know already what he can do and in their last 2 fights, we know who dominate although in the first fight some judgest doesn't see that Fury proved it in the rematch. Now, on the 3rd fight, this is the conclusion and if Fury would still win, regardless of how, I think the talks between the two will be over, and Fury will move to fight a champion.
Do you think that Wilder will sit back and accept Fury is a better boxer, there is no way he is going to do that. He genuinely thinks that Fury did something and hence he won the fight and that clearly shows that he is living in an alternative universe  Cheesy. The number of excuses he came up was funny for the fans and for the die hard Wilder fans these mockery from him hurts them for sure.

I am excited for the fight simply because i have no idea how Wilder prepared for this one as he clearly wanted to drag Fury to sign for this fight and he was successful in that aspect but whether he made any change in his style is the most interesting aspect i am eager to see.
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October 09, 2021, 10:18:27 PM
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He would not get up anymore if he gets knocked out because that means the fight is over, but if no one gets knock out, a draw is still possible as in their first fight of this trilogy, Fury was knocked down once and that give points to Wilder on why he was able to make the fight resulted in a draw.
For the first fight you need to remember Tyson Fury was making a comeback after mental health issues and ballooning himself to over 400 pounds and when he was facing Wilder for the first time everyone thought Wilder would smoke Fury easily but that was not the case and he exposed Wilder and he was winning all the rounds and even after getting knocked down Fury won the round.

They both felt their power, and therefore they should be careful as this fight might not last long due to the added weight which will result in more power.
Wilder was a pure knockout fighter and when he was dominating everyone he was weighing just around 208 pounds and now for the second Fury fight Wilder gained weight and he got knocked and now for the trilogy he again gained weight but the problem is Wilder never fought at that weight early and that will not help him to be efficient. I feel like Wilder will slow down at later rounds because of his weight gain and now he can clearly make stories on that aspect Cheesy.
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October 09, 2021, 11:32:31 PM
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This is the biggest event of the year in boxing hopefully it will live to its hype, both fighters want to prove something, let's see if Deontay Wilder can reintroduce himself in the world of boxing, he promised us that this is a whole new Wilder, of course, this is doubtful you can't teach an old dog new tricks, much more in just a short period of time but let's see. I hope someone will drop a live leak of the fight
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October 09, 2021, 11:37:21 PM
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Tyson Fury black outfit for weight-ins reminded me on Undertaker with his hat and t-shirt, and Wilder is again complaining about glove tampering and cheating from Fury, but this is only proving he is afraid of Fury, and maybe he wants to mentally affect Fury Cheesy
Thanks for the share up mate and i did really enjoy seeing those behind the scenes and it turns out that Fury is heavier for 4 pounds than Wilder but having 1+kg additional wont really be that much of an issue or problem.

Yeah that undertaker-like outfit does suit him up and i cant really wait for this fight to happen.Hope that there wont be some non sense reasoning that would come from the mouth of Wilder
but looking him on weigh-ins it turns out that he's quite confident for this upcoming fight. Hmmmm
Whatever excuse he would say would not anymore get sympathy from the fans, we know already what he can do and in their last 2 fights, we know who dominate although in the first fight some judgest doesn't see that Fury proved it in the rematch. Now, on the 3rd fight, this is the conclusion and if Fury would still win, regardless of how, I think the talks between the two will be over, and Fury will move to fight a champion.
People are already tired and one with those excuses that he had done in the past.Imagine or going back into those claims turns out to be non sense anymore which di really make the fans or the public had leave out

bad impressions to him or do even say that he's already gone crazy as he couldnt really able to accept his defeat against Fury and this is where this Trilogy fight happens and he should really prove out that

he's much better and that lost against Fury was just a fluke.  Cheesy. If he lost again then it is already concluded and wouldnt be needed any explanations.
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October 09, 2021, 11:52:56 PM
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People are already tired and one with those excuses that he had done in the past.Imagine or going back into those claims turns out to be non sense anymore which di really make the fans or the public had leave out

bad impressions to him or do even say that he's already gone crazy as he couldnt really able to accept his defeat against Fury and this is where this Trilogy fight happens and he should really prove out that

he's much better and that lost against Fury was just a fluke.  Cheesy. If he lost again then it is already concluded and wouldnt be needed any explanations.

You will not believe this, hours before the match against Fury, Wilder is complaining about Fury's gloves again,

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Wilder has been keeping a close eye on Fury's team this week after making a number of outlandish cheating accusations against the Brit after their rematch last year.

And he has now flagged an issue with Fury's padding inside his glove, which includes horse hair, that has concerned him.

But the Nevada State Athletic Commission have insisted that they are okay to use, and it won't put the bout in jeopardy.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-tyson-fury-gloves-25176968

In his mind, he really thinks that Fury is going to cheat him as he did in his own words, in their last two fights, I will not be surprised if he cast accusations again if he loses this fight, he never runs out of excuses he is not like Joshua who quietly accepts defeat.


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October 10, 2021, 01:14:12 AM
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This is the biggest event of the year in boxing hopefully it will live to its hype, both fighters want to prove something, let's see if Deontay Wilder can reintroduce himself in the world of boxing, he promised us that this is a whole new Wilder, of course, this is doubtful you can't teach an old dog new tricks, much more in just a short period of time but let's see. I hope someone will drop a live leak of the fight

Well it took more than a year for this fight to happen again because of the pandemic and then with some legal matter. So it's not just a short period of time, but he has enough to come up a good game play. That's is if he can adjust and his mind is already accepted his second defeat by knock out. So new coaches and new crew around him. And he is very calm and confident during the press conference so maybe he still believed that he can knock out Fury and maybe force a 4th fight.

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