#2 Bitcointalk Poker Series (0.05 BTC & BIG BTC Ticket sponsored by SwC Poker)

[Betwrong]

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clearly everyone has an opinion about different ways the point system could work. there are dozens of ways to do it, and if you want to do a deep dive into all the angles, these guys have covered most of them: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/league-points.6199/

Thanks for the link! There are some interesting ideas there. My personal fav is this one:



After adjusting it to our current game, we would have the following Points Structure:

1st: 11 (10 + 1)
2nd: 10 (9 + 1)
3rd: 9 (8 + 1)
4th: 8 (7 + 1)
5th: 7 (6 + 1)
6th: 6 (5 + 1)
7th: 5 (4 + 1)
8th: 4 (3+1)
9th: 3 (2+1)
10th: 2 (1+1)
11th and downward: 1

With this structure people would be still incentivized to finish in the top 10, so we would definitely have more action at the tables than if all places were awarded accordingly, like 25th place with 1 point, 24th place with 2 points and so on. On the other hand, I think people deserve at least one point for their participation, no matter on which place they finish.

[Globb0]

I got shot down for suggesting exactly such a thing.

Its not about lowly players getting something feels like there are self proclaimed semi pros who want marks, looking at some of the discussions.

I can tell you that isn't encouraging noobs to get involved for the banter and fun of it.

[arallmuus]

- Personally I didn't really care about late registration because after all - it's not generally an advantage to join even after 50 minutes, is it? ... Provided we are playing some nice poker, it shouldn't be. Still, I will talk with the hosts and see what we can do.

To clarify before I start writing this, I do agree to cut down the late registration or even have no late registration at all


You still needs to be lucky to get to the top spot  

FOMA was there when I ( I am one of the late register player ) was down to 500 chips and all those big stacks keep pressuring me whenever I am paying the blind however lucky hands save my ass  

I am almost out before I even got into top 10 lol, late registration doesnt really save your ass at all if you are not lucky  

I just got lucky to be on the top spot this week and I could probably not going to make to the grand final lol as well. Even if someone "claimed" that they are better than most player , it doesnt means they will qualify for the grand final if they are not lucky

Even some of the top contender in the first series got shot out early on the game

[davinchi]

There is already a method that is used and as long as most people are happy with it, I do not see a reason for you guys to change it at all. You should probably keep it, but if you want to change it I think this one would be too late to change now, I would say change it on the next one and meanwhile talk about what people want for the next one here, that way you will have people talking about their ideas and what they think would be better, and other people would give feedback on their ideas that way you wouldn't be just hearing out one person but hearing out everyone on everyone's ideas and that would be more democratic.

However I still think that this was done this way already and it was fine, I think people enjoyed and they are registering again, so I do not see a reason to change it again.

[Globb0]

My thoughts are aligned with efialtis

I would avoid making too many changes, SwC has been good to us guys and we don't want to end up pissing them off.

[Steamtyme]

My thoughts are aligned with efialtis
I would avoid making too many changes, SwC has been good to us guys and we don't want to end up pissing them off.

Them or efialtis lol.

How about everyone just play out the rest of this series and see if we have any further issues or concerns. We take a week of in between this and the next and see if we want to tweak the structure any further. There are a lot of good suggestions but some of this is just change for the sake of change. We will all have a preferred style of tournament, but so far these aren't broke and I don't see a need to fix it.

I also found it a bit confusing trying to follow the discussions mixed in with everything else. I made this landing page for discussion about changes and/or preferences.

Bitcointalk Poker Series format discussion - Let's keep them all in one place.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

While you guys are busy figuring out the best format, I am practicing my poker skills. 😝

 

I could do better but at the end I was too annoyed with the guy who kicked me out. The guy had over 24k chips and the 2nd highest one had 10k or something other one had 5kish and I had 3kish. This chip leader guy always goes ALL IN. Continuously, since he had around 5k ships. Everyone just leave their hands when he bets ALL IN. Sometimes he lose but the other side always have less than 1/4 of this total chips so he always recovers the lose. I got him twice too. But this time it did not help. I go ALL IN with a KJ I guess and he called. He had better card so he won and I am out. But before that I somehow manged to get the 4th place.

By the way, figure out the best for all. I am too noob to give input in your conversations. LOL

[Globb0]

While you guys are busy figuring out the best format, I am practicing my poker skills. 😝

 

I could do better but at the end I was too annoyed with the guy who kicked me out. The guy had over 24k chips and the 2nd highest one had 10k or something other one had 5kish and I had 3kish. This chip leader guy always goes ALL IN. Continuously, since he had around 5k ships. Everyone just leave their hands when he bets ALL IN. Sometimes he lose but the other side always have less than 1/4 of this total chips so he always recovers the lose. I got him twice too. But this time it did not help. I go ALL IN with a KJ I guess and he called. He had better card so he won and I am out. But before that I somehow manged to get the 4th place.

By the way, figure out the best for all. I am too noob to give input in your conversations. LOL

haha similarly I spent the time bleeding out in the no rake tables.   

Does that count as practice?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

haha similarly I spent the time bleeding out in the no rake tables.   

Does that count as practice?

I suck in full table but now improving. Here is another one, just finished LOL


Again last place in the prize position. I really need to improve my finishing. I had few luck in this tourney though but at the end that AA basically took everything way.

Yeah, practice 😝
But I am having fun.

[figmentofmyass]

My thoughts are aligned with efialtis

I would avoid making too many changes, SwC has been good to us guys and we don't want to end up pissing them off.

+1, although SwC has nothing to do with the points system. that's all done on our side. they just manually enter the top 9 we give them into the championship.

Bitcointalk Poker Series format discussion - Let's keep them all in one place.

thanks, i've added some thoughts there.

haha similarly I spent the time bleeding out in the no rake tables.   

Does that count as practice?

bleeding chips are you? post some hands here, maybe they are worth reviewing: Poker talk - Specifically Hold'em - Hands and or strategy

[Globb0]

I noticed now its the same few people sitting there all the time. They are pro hoovers

[efialtis]

Quick Update:

I have added this week's tournament links here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245365.msg54348813#msg54348813

We will have 5k starting stacks for the first time. I am not sure if we will manage to get the reduced late registration period by then - if not, please bear with me.

Whoever has already paid the extra chips and is missing the passwords, please get in touch via PM, on Discord or TG.

Thanks guys!

[webtricks]

I was going through the last 2-3 pages of this thread and sensed some negative vibes among members. It looks like we have lost the main purpose of these tournaments - 'fun', right? Compare the posts from these 8 pages with 40 from first series and you will find how charismatic everyone was sounding in previous series. But here we are discussing about the late registration problem, how some members are just playing to make to championship, how some members knowingly sit out, how some members play defensively to make point and what not! It seems like the purpose has been shift from 'fun' to 'money' and that's why I think we are seeing the drop of 30-40% participants.

Well, I can tell personally for myself that I don't care about any of the above. For me member may come at the first minute or the last, use whatever strategy he can, I have paid over 0.01 BTC to play these series so far just because I enjoy playing and keep on doing so until I am enjoying. So please everybody let's keep these issues aside and let's not think too much and play with peaceful mind.

[arallmuus]

I noticed now its the same few people sitting there all the time. They are pro hoovers

Those guy are mostly the same as everyone that usually plays on the 750k guaranteed on sunday. Whoever that win the grand final will receive ticket to join the 750k guaranteed game . The vibe and tension could be very different there as those people could be considered as "pro"

We will have 5k starting stacks for the first time.

Nicely done Efialtis  

Lets see what kind of complaint that you will get next week . I kinda see that they are atleast some complaint in this second series after the 1st week regardless of how good the tournament was in the first series

[efialtis]

I noticed now its the same few people sitting there all the time. They are pro hoovers

Those guy are mostly the same as everyone that usually plays on the 750k guaranteed on sunday. Whoever that win the grand final will receive ticket to join the 750k guaranteed game . The vibe and tension could be very different there as those people could be considered as "pro"

We will have 5k starting stacks for the first time.

Nicely done Efialtis  

Lets see what kind of complaint that you will get next week . I kinda see that they are atleast some complaint in this second series after the 1st week regardless of how good the tournament was in the first series

To be fair - I really don't mind people posting suggestions - I actually appreciate that, after all,  it's the first time we have ever had a series of (poker) events exclusively for bitcointalk users and it's a process so yeah, there will definitely be room for improvement. A competitive attitude is something I also share and that's of course perfectly fine for me - I just don't want us to forget that in the end, fun should come first.

[cygan]

as i abandoned last sunday, i will now try to be there again this saturday and sit at the table with you guys again
then try to get back into the final table

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Who is joining Poker with Steve in around half an hour? I am fully pumped 🤪

Check the post I made on their ANN LOL

PS: This is my third prize sharing in SwC 250 buy in tourney in last 24 hours. 3 out of 3 🤣
In the first one I ended at 4th, in the 2nd one 3rd and in this one 2nd.

[figmentofmyass]

bump!

the next bitcointalk tourney is in 2 days. i'm not sure if the spreadsheet is accurate re fees paid, but we've only got 11 players signed up for the next game so far. get in the game!

with everyone under 12 points in the standings, the series is still wide open for the taking, so anyone joining this weekend still has a great shot at qualifying for the championship game.

place in the top 9 in the points standings and you'll qualify for the final table: ~0.08+ BTC prize pool + a ticket to a 0.75 BTC guaranteed tournament. check the OP for details. every qualifier has its own prize pool too of course.

i hope to see some new faces on saturday!

[iv4n]

bump!

the next bitcointalk tourney is in 2 days. i'm not sure if the spreadsheet is accurate re fees paid, but we've only got 11 players signed up for the next game so far. get in the game!

with everyone under 12 points in the standings, the series is still wide open for the taking, so anyone joining this weekend still has a great shot at qualifying for the championship game.

place in the top 9 in the points standings and you'll qualify for the final table: ~0.08+ BTC prize pool + a ticket to a 0.75 BTC guaranteed tournament. check the OP for details. every qualifier has its own prize pool too of course.

i hope to see some new faces on saturday!

I sent chips to Efi yesterday, probably he didn't see that. I think there will be more players, probably free time is becoming a problem for many! I still don't work, and I am not sure will I start working next week or the one after. So people calculate their free time for poker, and I hope we will see more players showing up today and tomorrow, there's still a lot of time. Probably this series will be around 18-19 players, and we can be lucky if we have at least a couple of tournaments with more than 20 players!

[Trofo]

So people calculate their free time for poker, and I hope we will see more players showing up today and tomorrow, there's still a lot of time. Probably this series will be around 18-19 players, and we can be lucky if we have at least a couple of tournaments with more than 20 players!

Unfortunately, there is less and less chance to get more players as our series goes on. Covid isolation measures are being reduced all around the world and with every tournament passed there is less chance for new faces to qualify for final table. This week I am expecting about 20 people, but the weeks after that I would be happy with even 15.