🔥 FAKE: Defamation At Its Worst During Chipmixer Applications 🔥

[JollyGood]

Says the person that is connected to the merit abuse and fake trust circle gang? Your opinions should be kept for yourself and your propaganda views to be shared with those that you aimed to get on to DT1 with.

Thank you for your comment. There is a part that you ignore: the members here are also trying to create scam projects, giving information to people. not a single person does this job. ok, we might have learned from global developments, but don't ignore it.

please use different translate program. for example: yandex translate.

[mindrust]

PS: I am new to this drama and i know people may have tried taking the accommodating approach i am advocating that i maybe unaware of. Attitudes have hardened due to a few old Turkish members. Yet, there should be effort to identify the better people. It maybe that people are actually afraid of the likes of Visipilio and Wolwoo. Visipilio has not shied away from making physical threats against the linkes of @mindrust who tried to counter him at the local section.

That piece of shit even says I am not Turkish like It has to do something with anything. I wonder who gives  him the right to decide my national identity.

There are so many flaws with his logic.

[koincik]

This whole drama created by a few Turkish members seems to be affecting the Local board overwhelmingly. Most Turkish users are interacting in Local and there view about Global is being manipulated by those caught in scamming activities. They are sowing general discord amongst the community with stupid conspiracy theories. I have been trying to talk with the people over at Turkish local. Here is a step-wise evolution of the matter.

1. REMOVAL OF KALEMDER
The whole thing started because Kalemder was removed from the ChipMixer campaign after he was found to have some "Mutual trust inclusion/ exclusion" affair with TECHSHARE. He says that he did it because he trusted TECHSHARE as he was speaking out against racism.

Techshare isimli kullanıcıyı kısa bir süre eklediğim için lauk ve takımı bana negatif vermişlerdi. Geçen ay bunla alakalı dönen yoğun tartışmabın sonunda Theymos uzun bir açıklama yazmıştı. Oldukça politik, yuvarlak bir açıklama idi.

Transalation:
"Since I added the user Techshare for a short time, lauk and his team gave me negative. At the end of the intense debate about it last month, Theymos wrote a long statement. It was a very political, round statement."

Kalemder, in that "mutual trust" incident, did you have any reason to include TECHSHARE or it was just a mutual agreement that you agreed to because of thinking that it is normal?

Personally, I do not intend to engage in these unnecessary discussions. Frankly, I am not someone who actively uses the global part of the forum. But it's hard to believe that what's described here and what looks like some "coincidence" is innocent. I just tried to help you about your question.

As apparent here, I asked him and quite a few people who understand Turkish themselves would say that "it does not seem a coincidence"

First of all, I originally tried to help you with the topic you quoted above, thinking that your intention might be good. But after reading here, I saw that his intention was entirely a "sneaky" approach. And it is not ethical to take the sections you want from the posts there and publish them here!

As for the main issue, as I mentioned there, I find these discussions unnecessary. However, I have stated that I do not think that "what you are saying" is just a coincidence. In other words, I do not welcome you to come up to the Turkish board and say the same things to everyone there and eventually buy a thesis here, with what you bought piece by piece.

I think that you have made unnecessary conversations about childish issues with many people mentioned in that topic.

I have never been involved in such issues until now. I don't want to be involved anymore! However, for the future and goodness of the forum, I think that the people who manage the forum should logically and reasonably end this topic. Especially in the aforementioned topic, it is mentioned that a person has official discourses against the Turks. I have not witnessed personally, but if there is such a thing, I have difficulty understanding why managers do not interfere with it.

[DarkStar_]

The whole thing started because Kalemder was removed from the ChipMixer campaign after he was found to have some "Mutual trust inclusion/ exclusion" affair with TECHSHARE. He says that he did it because he trusted TECHSHARE as he was speaking out against racism.

False. I've generally stopped following forum drama and was not aware of the "affair" until now.

[Lauda]

The whole thing started because Kalemder was removed from the ChipMixer campaign after he was found to have some "Mutual trust inclusion/ exclusion" affair with TECHSHARE. He says that he did it because he trusted TECHSHARE as he was speaking out against racism.

False. I've generally stopped following forum drama and was not aware of the "affair" until now.

They claim you did it because of that, therefore it started because of that. Good clarification. You should be on point about these matters, but assuming you don't employ neg. rated or controversial members who shitpost only when paid (Kalemdar and Vispilio being prime examples) then you will be fine without knowing anything.

[bonesjonesreturns]

The whole thing started because Kalemder was removed from the ChipMixer campaign after he was found to have some "Mutual trust inclusion/ exclusion" affair with TECHSHARE. He says that he did it because he trusted TECHSHARE as he was speaking out against racism.

False. I've generally stopped following forum drama and was not aware of the "affair" until now.

Perhaps you should stay current with truthful and legitimate evidence demonstrating clearly you are sponsoring multiple scammer supporters and trust abusers.

Never mind google will eventually start to get the message home to chipmixer directly.

Irresponsible to sponsor scammer supporters,  trust abusers and racist double standards scum how are obviously cycling merit and self appointing themselves to default trust.

If you are not complicit you must be fully retarded

Thanks for having my legitimate application deleted from your thread. That's another one in the thread queue to come soon.

Probably blissfully unaware of the scammer lauda claiming he will red trust the Turkish members that apply and get accepted to chipmixer....all that board scammer extortionist drama you dont wanna know about hey?

Then after lauda makes such racist threats against the Turkish community that they have no grounds to be upset on racial grounds.

Lol that is one of the most racist threats I have heard here.

Wake up darkstar before you bring chipmixer into disrepute.
You can't keep hiring from the tiny close knit bunch of scammer supporting scum hoping nobody would notice.

You need to ensure you are not sponsoring any scammer supporters that abuse trust.

Chipmixer should have told you they dont want " drama" you are steering them directly toward it.

[amishmanish]

False. I've generally stopped following forum drama and was not aware of the "affair" until now.

They claim you did it because of that, therefore it started because of that. Good clarification. You should be on point about these matters, but assuming you don't employ neg. rated or controversial members who shitpost only when paid (Kalemdar and Vispilio being prime examples) then you will be fine without knowing anything.

Hope now our Turkish friends can stop blaming people about "opening of topics against them during lucrative signature bounties."

@Kalemder and others. I have posted this only for awareness on the issue especially regarding the off-rail accusations of a few people about DT-1/ ChipMixer/ Blockstream etc. Its misguiding to new people and bad for bitcoin in general. You selectively posted in your reply that I trust Lauda because I participated in a signature campaign. This is typical of the selective morality employed by your other friend who has been deleting my replies in local section. Let me quote my full reply where I have explained why I have Lauda in my Trust list.

My reason for trust is that they have been consistent in coming down heavily on forum abuse related to account manipulation, alt-accounts etc. This was due to the significant damage that was going on during the time of bounty abuse in the 2017 ICO craze. Over the years they have grown a very low tolerance to these penny scams where people invite a bunch of other people to post on this forum and they all together see it as an earning opportunity, enrolling in multiple bounties and pyramid posting.

That used to happen a lot and people like Lauda, Pharamacist, Hilariousetc spent much time and effort in tagging such accounts. This was before scam-and spam busting became a favorite activity for people here. These earlier incidents created a strong bias amongst what you refer as the "DT clique" for any activity that reeks of such "common socialized efforts". They actively tagged such farming accounts and this brought these people a lot of bad publicity and reputation threads. Most of them stopped doing it very publicly. Lauda is the only one that still sticks to the same principles and i respect that despite their terse and sarcastic language at times. I also participated in a signature campaign for a few weeks ran by Lauda when i was just a full member and never had any problems in receiving timely updates as well as the BTC. So I have my reasons from trusting them. They have been through a lot of drama but the thousands of accounts tagged by them during the bounty-hunting, shitposting days should not come back.

From that whole explanation, your friend wolwoo pointed out that small part in your local trying to portray me as another alt or inspired by money. Just because some people cannot think beyond monetary gain doesn't mean others cannot. To Turkish members , I only request that at least call out those who try to portray everything as a conspiracy. Not only are these guys attacking DT-1 and the forum but now even bitcoin.

Having someone on my trust list simply means that I trust their "judgement". When a person by virtue of their constant effort on the forum ends up being trusted by multiple people, they may come on Default Trust. Now, it is natural that people on DT-1 can surely have some differences of opinion amongst themselves. Yet, I strongly believe that they should be uncompromising on a few basic tenets.
1. They should be more than account-farming, bounty hunting shitposters whose only concern in the forum is "lucrative signature bounties".
2. They should agree on the bitcoin phenomena and not feed conspiracy theories propagated by marketers like Roger Ver and fake actors like Craig Wright.
3. They should beware of actors that want to scam/ hack people out of their bitcoin holdings.

Those would be the basic qualities I'll expect from a DT-1. Ask yourself what you want.

[Kalemder]

The whole thing started because Kalemder was removed from the ChipMixer campaign after he was found to have some "Mutual trust inclusion/ exclusion" affair with TECHSHARE. He says that he did it because he trusted TECHSHARE as he was speaking out against racism.

False. I've generally stopped following forum drama and was not aware of the "affair" until now.

They claim you did it because of that, therefore it started because of that.

False. No such thing was claimed. Lauda and his gang trying to do this.  But you're unsuccessful. What you do is simple mouth games. What you write to Bitcointurk, Muslol and others.Look at the negatives. @Bthd stated an idea contrary to you.  The next day he was removed from the campaign. Everything is money for you.  So you tag every developing person. All this is power drunkenness. This is the effort to influence campaign managers.

Anyway.  Reason for removal was written and discussed earlier. I told him I trusted the Darkstar_  judgment. I respected his decision. My Turkish posts are appreciated by the turkish community.  I will continue to be useful to the Turkish crypto community. There are more important things than money in this life.

Stay with goodness...

[Lauda]

@Bthd stated an idea contrary to you.

This guy showed himself to be an idiot without morals ready to support turkish baboons such as yourself in any kind of abuse. Don't blame me when you expose your own evil nature scumbag. I do not even know what campaign the user is/was in, they are of no importance to me or this place.

There are more important things than money in this life.

If you only understood that for more than 1 second, we would not be here.

[JollyGood]

It is absolutely pointless trying to engage with the handful of Turkish gang-members that have colluded to try to sow seeds of hatred and division within this forum of ours. They are compulsive liars who would probably sell their own grandmother for a photo of the traitor "Kemal Pasha" aka "fake-Attaturk" just because they idolise him.

For a merit abuser and fake trust circle participant such as Kalemder to say "There are more important things than money in this life" is just another attempt at misdirecting.

The whole thing started because Kalemder was removed from the ChipMixer campaign after he was found to have some "Mutual trust inclusion/ exclusion" affair with TECHSHARE. He says that he did it because he trusted TECHSHARE as he was speaking out against racism.

False. I've generally stopped following forum drama and was not aware of the "affair" until now.

They claim you did it because of that, therefore it started because of that.

False. No such thing was claimed. Lauda and his gang trying to do this.  But you're unsuccessful. What you do is simple mouth games. What you write to Bitcointurk, Muslol and others.Look at the negatives. @Bthd stated an idea contrary to you.  The next day he was removed from the campaign. Everything is money for you.  So you tag every developing person. All this is power drunkenness. This is the effort to influence campaign managers.

Anyway.  Reason for removal was written and discussed earlier. I told him I trusted the Darkstar_  judgment. I respected his decision. My Turkish posts are appreciated by the turkish community.  I will continue to be useful to the Turkish crypto community. There are more important things than money in this life.

Stay with goodness...

[mindrust]

They are compulsive liars who would probably sell their own grandmother for a photo of the traitor "Kemal Pasha" aka "fake-Attaturk" just because idolise him.

Nice one. That's exactly how I see it as well. If you ask these retards they'd say that love Atatürk a lot but in reality, Atatürk wouldn't use these useless shits to wipe his... i dunno. use your imagination here.  

edit: ...his Nose. The word was Nose. 

[Kalemder]

Lies, anger, insult, oppression. This is too much.  I have added you to my disttrust list.  This is what reasonable people should do.

[DragonDance]

They are compulsive liars who would probably sell their own grandmother for a photo of the traitor "Kemal Pasha" aka "fake-Attaturk" just because idolise him.

Nice one. That's exactly how I see it as well. If you ask these retards they'd say that love Atatürk a lot but in reality, Atatürk wouldn't use these useless shits to wipe his... i dunno. use your imagination here.  

edit: ...his Nose. The word was Nose.  

Ataturk loving Turks must have fucked both of your mothers, sisters and wives in real life, otherwise you wouldnt need to hide in an internet forum to vent your extreme inferiority complex.

@jollygood and @mindrust, I haven't encountered more hollow sub human worms than you in any other place on Earth, you parasites make even the criminals of this forum look like nobility.

Someone should contact your parents in real life and convince them to lock you away for the benefit of civil society.

[wolwoo]

It is absolutely pointless trying to engage with the handful of Turkish gang-members that have colluded to try to sow seeds of hatred and division within this forum of ours. They are compulsive liars who would probably sell their own grandmother for a photo of the traitor "Kemal Pasha" aka "fake-Attaturk" just because idolise him.

For a merit abuser and fake trust circle participant such as Kalemder to say "There are more important things than money in this life" is just another attempt at misdirecting.

The whole thing started because Kalemder was removed from the ChipMixer campaign after he was found to have some "Mutual trust inclusion/ exclusion" affair with TECHSHARE. He says that he did it because he trusted TECHSHARE as he was speaking out against racism.

False. I've generally stopped following forum drama and was not aware of the "affair" until now.

They claim you did it because of that, therefore it started because of that.

False. No such thing was claimed. Lauda and his gang trying to do this.  But you're unsuccessful. What you do is simple mouth games. What you write to Bitcointurk, Muslol and others.Look at the negatives. @Bthd stated an idea contrary to you.  The next day he was removed from the campaign. Everything is money for you.  So you tag every developing person. All this is power drunkenness. This is the effort to influence campaign managers.

Anyway.  Reason for removal was written and discussed earlier. I told him I trusted the Darkstar_  judgment. I respected his decision. My Turkish posts are appreciated by the turkish community.  I will continue to be useful to the Turkish crypto community. There are more important things than money in this life.

Stay with goodness...

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-09-28_Sat_06.17h/1003533.html

never get tired for nothing. there is a pretty big list here. distrust them all one by one, give one negative. let me put it in your judgment

edit: http://loyce.club/trust/2019-12-21_Sat_06.10h/1003533.html  this is a larger list

[mindrust]

They are compulsive liars who would probably sell their own grandmother for a photo of the traitor "Kemal Pasha" aka "fake-Attaturk" just because idolise him.

Nice one. That's exactly how I see it as well. If you ask these retards they'd say that love Atatürk a lot but in reality, Atatürk wouldn't use these useless shits to wipe his... i dunno. use your imagination here. 

edit: ...his Nose. The word was Nose. 

Ataturk loving Turks must have fucked both of your mothers, sisters and wives in real life...

But I am a Atatürk loving Türk.

You call yourself a Türk? You and your kind are more like street scums. You need proper education. That's exactly what you need.

Just because a few morons like you gathered together in the Turkish local doesn't mean you represent all the Turks.



Let's do this, if any of you from Vispilio's gang can find someone who is cheating with multiple accounts in Chipmixer campaign, I'll delete all of you from my distrust list.

Find me only one person.

I can't bother to find all the posts you made earlier but you keep telling that people who participate in Chipmixer are mostly multi accounters.

Find me only one guy.

If you can't, then fuck off. And shut up.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

[wolwoo]

Let's do this, if any of you from Vispilio's gang can find someone who is cheating with multiple accounts in Chipmixer campaign, I'll delete all of you from my distrust list.

Find me only one person.

I can't bother to find all the posts you made earlier but you keep telling that people who participate in Chipmixer are mostly multi accounters.

Find me only one guy.

If you can't, then fuck off. And shut up.

you will never find my multiple account because there is none!
note: I did not join chipmixer, but even if I do, it does not
note 2: there is no gang so we can't be a member. Would it be the gang that failed something?
If you are looking for a gang, just look at those who stock the money

[suchmoon]

Let's do this, if any of you from Vispilio's gang can find someone who is cheating with multiple accounts in Chipmixer campaign, I'll delete all of you from my distrust list.

Find me only one person.

I can't bother to find all the posts you made earlier but you keep telling that people who participate in Chipmixer are mostly multi accounters.

Find me only one guy.

If you can't, then fuck off. And shut up.

Careful, you'll have people joining Vispilio's gang just to take advantage of this prize

[mindrust]

Careful, you'll have people joining Vispilio's gang just to take advantage of this prize

They seem to be very motivated already without the prize. (A prize should be motivating otherwise what good is it  ) I wonder what's taking them so long to find the multiaccounter cheater mother fucker. I even read that some of the moderators are also part of this "criminal" gang.

[TECSHARE]

This whole drama created by a few Turkish members seems to be affecting the Local board overwhelmingly. Most Turkish users are interacting in Local and there view about Global is being manipulated by those caught in scamming activities. They are sowing general discord amongst the community with stupid conspiracy theories. I have been trying to talk with the people over at Turkish local. Here is a step-wise evolution of the matter.

1. REMOVAL OF KALEMDER
The whole thing started because Kalemder was removed from the ChipMixer campaign after he was found to have some "Mutual trust inclusion/ exclusion" affair with TECHSHARE. He says that he did it because he trusted TECHSHARE as he was speaking out against racism.

Techshare isimli kullanıcıyı kısa bir süre eklediğim için lauk ve takımı bana negatif vermişlerdi. Geçen ay bunla alakalı dönen yoğun tartışmabın sonunda Theymos uzun bir açıklama yazmıştı. Oldukça politik, yuvarlak bir açıklama idi.

Transalation:
"Since I added the user Techshare for a short time, lauk and his team gave me negative. At the end of the intense debate about it last month, Theymos wrote a long statement. It was a very political, round statement."

Kalemder, in that "mutual trust" incident, did you have any reason to include TECHSHARE or it was just a mutual agreement that you agreed to because of thinking that it is normal?

Personally, I do not intend to engage in these unnecessary discussions. Frankly, I am not someone who actively uses the global part of the forum. But it's hard to believe that what's described here and what looks like some "coincidence" is innocent. I just tried to help you about your question.

As apparent here, I asked him and quite a few people who understand Turkish themselves would say that "it does not seem a coincidence"

2. NEGGING OF VISIPILIO
The most important player in this whole saga is Visipilio who got negged by Jollygood and removed from DT1. He seems to have an intense desire to wield influence over the Turkish Local. He has been spited since he got removed from DT-1 after Jollygood questioned his moral/ ethical stand to support Yobit despite there scamming ways. He believes that he was right there. I think he should have just settled this issue with Jollygood as nobody elese left him a trust rating based on that.

But he being the megalomaniac that he is, he went on to start a "awareness campaign" against ChipMixer and DarkStar not selecting him. His underlying premises is that everyone's primary goal in this forum now is to get hold of some "lucrative bounties and signature campaign". His theory says that DT-1 is manipulating the campaign so only there friends can get into CM. The plenty of evidence in the form of recent local members from Indonesian and Filipino boards don't make a difference to him because in his mind, he is a great poster and DT-1 is afraid of him. See him "educating" me here:

...
Now, the situation has become so complex that it is hard to know who to trust.Similarly, Visipilio got dropped from DT-1 after his very public statements about him not being responsible if people click on scams due to him. His image got spoiled due to some of these remarks and people in DT-1 acquired a bias against him. People do not want someone who will take such things lightly to be on DT-1.

That is when, Visipilio has started opening threads about DT-1 conspiracy, need for turkish users to unite and now he has gone a step ahead and is playing into the hands of the same trolls who want to damage BTC by saying things like "Blockstream conspiracy" etc etc.
...

just for your own education I will respond 1 time to your brainwashed indoctrination,

I was actually congratulated by many people in private for my intellectual comments regarding the entire Yobit affair, go to that accusation thread and read them again, I'm almost certain you also will agree with most of my points.

And yet, at least 3 defamation threads were opened against me, using Yobit as an excuse, right around the time of ChipMixer applications, because the inner circle was well aware I was short listed to be selected (or at the very least always top rival  in their perception because of the outstanding quality of my messages and my independent tone in general)...

So please don't try to rewrite history, when the cases of corruption and defamation have been already discussed and proven beyond a shadow of doubt multiple times.

I don't know who are these users who "privately congratulated" him for winning the "Yobit debate". Thanks for feeding his ego. I will repeat again that he could easily have gotten himself out of that whole Yobit thing. Yet, his over-confidence and egoistical tendencies led him to dig a deeper grave as he started rallying against businesses here.

Bullshit. There was never any shred of evidence to support that idea, and it was based completely on an assumption on Nutilduhh's part, as they later admitted publicly.

Not at all. You have every much a right to include who you want as I do to assume you were fishing for reciprocal inclusions.

I mediated a dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community, they added me, as a result I ended up back on the default trust list. Being the angry little ass clowns they are, they mobilized to invent several stories across multiple threads simultaneously to try to slander myself and others who had decided to add each other. Not because of mutual inclusions, but because our interaction had cultivated trust. People like you having no idea how any of this works, or what is going on just read what these retards write and accept it as fact without any critical thought or examination of your own, and that is what they depend on.

As far as the negative for Vispillo over Yobit, Jollygood decided to make it his mission to negative rate anyone who used the banner, and punish people by guilt via association simply for using their banner. Jollygood went too far, and this kind of arbitrary declaration of guilt was again used as a vector of attack to make sure anyone who criticizes the current clown clan currently controlling the default trust never has any ability to balance out their vote within it.

[JollyGood]

You are a low-life dropping to these sub-human standards by using filthy words. Shame on you.

On the flip side, it must hurt you because you cannot delete any post here like certain members creating self-moderating threads to censor any dissent as they see it 

Ataturk loving Turks must have fucked both of your mothers, sisters and wives in real life, otherwise you wouldnt need to hide in an internet forum to vent your extreme inferiority complex.

@jollygood and @mindrust, I haven't encountered more hollow sub human worms than you in any other place on Earth, you parasites make even the criminals of this forum look like nobility.

Someone should contact your parents in real life and convince them to lock you away for the benefit of civil society.