Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll)

[panjul07]

Correct me, guys, if I'm wrong here, but I think buying free spins isn't increasing your chance of hitting a jackpot. You have the same odds of hitting it with your regular spins, no?

Depends on what games you are playing because there are some games where it is impossible to hit big multiplier in normal spins such as Sweet Bonanza and its family members.
If you play such game, buying bonus is exactly increase your chance to win big than playing normal spins.
Buying bonus is simply an instant way to enter the bonus round, while playing normal spins may not give you guarantee entering the bonus round although you spend the same amount as the bonus buy cost.
By the way, I have just hit a close to max win in Gates of Heaven, anyone can watch the replay here https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/wHLqWogZrA
I was so confidence that it would hit max win because of the 500x and 250x wild multiplier, but it was not coming true as it stopped at x4575.
Not a huge win as it was with IDR 1,000 base bet only which gave me a win of IDR 4.5M or around $300.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

By the way, I have just hit a close to max win in Gates of Heaven, anyone can watch the replay here https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/wHLqWogZrA
I was so confidence that it would hit max win because of the 500x and 250x wild multiplier, but it was not coming true as it stopped at x4575.
Not a huge win as it was with IDR 1,000 base bet only which gave me a win of IDR 4.5M or around $300.

Finally today is your turn after a few months just watching but yeah, I'm a bit surprised why it doesn't reach maxwin even though it already meets the criteria
I rarely play this game because I think it's no different from Gates of Olympus but after I checked in more detail it turns out there are some differences
For example the house edge of this game is lower only 2% and the RTP is higher up to 98% it's just that we can't test whether the information included is real or not.

[ryzaadit]

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Enhanced RTP slot gives you only 2% Edge, don't waste time thinking it's true or not because until now there is no third parties service that can provide (RTP) check. All you need to do, just trust the provider. But I believe you will be thinking like this:
- If won (oh, great these RTP are real)
- If lose (shit, these RTP is a scam).

[BitcoinPanther]

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Enhanced RTP slot gives you only 2% Edge, don't waste time thinking it's true or not because until now there is no third parties service that can provide (RTP) check. All you need to do, just trust the provider. But I believe you will be thinking like this:
- If won (oh, great these RTP are real)
- If lose (shit, these RTP is a scam).

Yeah, I have experienced that this enhanced RTP is almost non-existent.  I have played games that have more than the normal RTP and yet ends up losing my bankroll and not even triggering bonus round after hundreds of spins.  In slots everything is random. One can win huge amount of money even though its RTP is way below 50%.  At the end of the day, chance-based games are dependent on how lucky a gambler is.

By the way, I have just hit a close to max win in Gates of Heaven, anyone can watch the replay here https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/wHLqWogZrA
I was so confidence that it would hit max win because of the 500x and 250x wild multiplier, but it was not coming true as it stopped at x4575.
Not a huge win as it was with IDR 1,000 base bet only which gave me a win of IDR 4.5M or around $300.

4575 multiplier is still very huge considering my most multiplier win is just around 1k+.  I watched the replay and that was a crazy bonus since 250x dropped on the third spin of the bonus round and if that 500x hits that sure is max win but sadly it missed.  But it isn't a small win either imagine hitting a 4.5m IDR from a 100k IDR bonus buy.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

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Enhanced RTP slot gives you only 2% Edge, don't waste time thinking it's true or not because until now there is no third parties service that can provide (RTP) check. All you need to do, just trust the provider. But I believe you will be thinking like this:
- If won (oh, great these RTP are real)
- If lose (shit, these RTP is a scam).

Lol I understand that situation but I'm not a new gambler who always blames the provider/casino if I lose    you are right there is no way to check the RTP but even if the RTP is the same as Gates of Olympus at least we have the advantage of the house edge. I checked maxwin percentage there it doesn't look much different on average every week there are 3 users who succeed in reaching maxwin but this is just a note for players with normal spins while those who use the buy feature are not detected. Is it possible for an independent party to check the RTP?

[ryzaadit]

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I don't understand about max-win percentage you are talking about.

From what aspect do you see that? more people are winning maxwin?. If you use this method, the slot is being played by most people is gonna win (which is the gate of olympus). As you know, these slot are the most played on pragmatic play.

I don't think, there has such things as (max-win percentage) and I believe the chance or code are the same only have different theme

[mu_enrico]

I actually created a thread about this 98% RTP slots with a poll a few months ago...
Feel free to join the discussion since your information is valuable to the slots community. With more data, we can draw the conclusion whether we can feel the 2% difference or not.

Here's the link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454516.0

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I don't understand about max-win percentage you are talking about.

From what aspect do you see that? more people are winning maxwin?. If you use this method, the slot is being played by most people is gonna win (which is the gate of olympus). As you know, these slot are the most played on pragmatic play.

I don't think, there has such things as (max-win percentage) and I believe the chance or code are the same only have different theme

I compared the two slot games Gates of Heaven vs Gates of Olympus, in stake.com we can check who reached maxwin + the date so we can conclude, but the conclusion is not final because Stake.com only detects maxwin with regular spins while the buy feature is not included, it only counts x50. In general I agree it is the same slot game with a different theme however when Stake.com claims a higher RPT it means there will be risks if the information is fake we certainly know the impact, it's just that we don't know how to prove it.  By the way thanks @mu_enrico

[ryzaadit]

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I believe not really good, if based like these.

As you know, (Gate of Olympus) most slot is being played from Pragmatic Play, not just by regular users but also streamers and others. That's why, this slot can get more from the statistic rather than (Gate of Heaven).

Even (Gate of Olympus) is an old slot, this slot still being favorite. If you check on all the platform, which one do you seeing the most by ads/recommended videos on youtube and other? i believe you are more often to see (Gate of Olympus rather than Gate of Heaven) even the slot are new. That's why, that slot get more often recent update max-win rather than gate of heaven.

[panjul07]

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I believe not really good, if based like these.

As you know, (Gate of Olympus) most slot is being played from Pragmatic Play, not just by regular users but also streamers and others. That's why, this slot can get more from the statistic rather than (Gate of Heaven).

Even (Gate of Olympus) is an old slot, this slot still being favorite. If you check on all the platform, which one do you seeing the most by ads/recommended videos on youtube and other? i believe you are more often to see (Gate of Olympus rather than Gate of Heaven) even the slot are new. That's why, that slot get more often recent update max-win rather than gate of heaven.

I'm not quite sure if Gates of Olympus is the most played Pragmatic game, perhaps it is true if we talk about Indonesian but I dont think it is also the same globally as we never know the real statistic unless the provider provide the information publicly .
If we talk about which pragmatic games with more frequent max win, I will say it is Fruit Party (the original version).
My reason is simple because in Stake, there are always max win hit by several players every single day while other games has less max win than Fruit Party.
However it can be different in other sites, but since the only site with such information is Stake so I have no idea about which game with the most max win every single day.

[nullama]

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Correct me, guys, if I'm wrong here, but I think buying free spins isn't increasing your chance of hitting a jackpot. You have the same odds of hitting it with your regular spins, no?

How can you buy something that is free though?.

Is there a buy that you do that then gets you free spins on top of that?

In any case, the probability should be the same, independent of the price of the spin. Otherwise it wouldn't be marked as free, it would be marked as some bonus round or something, which would message that it's something different.

Usually free means you get the same thing you would get by paying.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I believe not really good, if based like these.

As you know, (Gate of Olympus) most slot is being played from Pragmatic Play, not just by regular users but also streamers and others. That's why, this slot can get more from the statistic rather than (Gate of Heaven).

I understand your point, as a slot game player of course I know the games that are played the most by users around the world from Pragmatic providers are Gates of Olympus and Sweet Bonanza but what I'm comparing isn't which slots are played the most by users but I'm trying to find information on which slot gives maxwin more often between these two slots because this is related to RPT. From the information I got the difference is not too significant in a week at least 3 users reach maxwin on regular spins even though Gates of Olympus should have a bigger chance because it is played more often but actually the chances are almost the same.

@panjul07 Globally, we really don't know but based on the Pragmatic provider, this can be confirmed. As a gambler, maybe you still remember what games you have played from Pragmatic providers in each of your game sessions, myself usually end my game session at the gates of olympus.

[Bitinity]

Have you tried Power of Merlin megaways from pragmatic? Honestly I tried this game because of the "Merlin" since I was a fan of Rise of Merlin from Play'n Go. Tried this game with normal spins (200 spins) but hit nothing big, tried buy bonus 4 times and here is the best result:



This game has max win of 40,000x, I'm not sure how much will be my final result if there is a merlin symbol in the first reel on the last spin. It must be huge , unfortunately the bigger luck was not coming but at least it is a nice win already with more than 3,000x. FYI the buy bonus cost is more expensive than most other pragmatic games because it is 150x of the base bet.

[len01]

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if today you feel out of luck, try again who knows you might be lucky to get maxwin
getting 3000x way better than me, luck hasn't been on my side the last few weeks. usually i try newly released slot games usually at least get 500-1000x but maybe july is the worst and i have also tried the games you play this is the biggest multiplier result i get only 165x 

btw, talking about Play N Go, I remember a new game was released. Im not yet fully tried this game yet but when viewed as a whole its almost the same as Rise Of Olympus 100 with a max multiplier of 15000x. Im curious to try this game because usually getting the 1000x multiplier is easier, if Im lucky
have you tried it?

[swogerino]

Have you tried Power of Merlin megaways from pragmatic? Honestly I tried this game because of the "Merlin" since I was a fan of Rise of Merlin from Play'n Go. Tried this game with normal spins (200 spins) but hit nothing big, tried buy bonus 4 times and here is the best result:



This game has max win of 40,000x, I'm not sure how much will be my final result if there is a merlin symbol in the first reel on the last spin. It must be huge , unfortunately the bigger luck was not coming but at least it is a nice win already with more than 3,000x. FYI the buy bonus cost is more expensive than most other pragmatic games because it is 150x of the base bet.

Where do you guys find this awesome luck and you call it not a big one  ,I know compared to x40000 the x3000 feels little but I have quit slots almost 1 month and more now and the reason was simple,every time I played a slot the worse of the worse type of luck kept hitting me,losing everything despite playing for a lot of time and as such I thought to myself I had enough of this shit and stopped playing.My best ever decision although when I see you guys here posting your big wins I must accept that I am super envious of you guys  .

[ethereumhunter]

Guys, I'm really jealous of you, who managed to get that big win. Now it's rare for me to win even a small victory. Huff, it seems I didn't have good luck last month, but I hope my luck will come again to me this month.

I can only congratulate you who can win that much money. Leave the slot game for me so I can also get a win like you. Don't get it all on your own.

[Betwrong]

If you think of it, buying free spins is just like making higher bets. Once I won $200 with a $0.20 regular spin on a slot, and if I was betting with $20 at that moment, my profit would be $20k, right? Now, if I'd buy a bonus round for $20 back then and won $20k I would be confident that only buying free spins can provide you with such a win. This is what happens with some gamblers, and they spread the word and other people repeat after them.

I'm a bit confused by your point. Buying a buy bonus does not increase the bet, it only speeds up entering bonus mode, but must pay 100x the base bet. So, we pay that $20 is actually same as $0.2 per spin with 100 spins (without any win). so the matter of winning doesn't change, if from base bet $0.2 the rules if we get maxwin is $200, by buying bonus mode it will still be $200 not change to $20K.

Am I misunderstood what you mean?

I'm sorry that I wrote my post the way it could cause confusion. In short, what I meant was that bet is bet, regardless of what you are betting on. So, if you buy a round of free spins for $20, you are basically betting $20 hoping to win more money. Now, in the case when I won $200 with a $0.20 regular spin, I won 1,000x of my bet. It's an equivalent of $20k won from a $20 bet. And if I bought a bonus round for $20 and won $20k from that, I would be sure that only a bonus round can give such a win, while in fact I could just bet $20 without buying a bonus round and win the same $20k.

Correct me, guys, if I'm wrong here, but I think buying free spins isn't increasing your chance of hitting a jackpot. You have the same odds of hitting it with your regular spins, no?

Depends on what games you are playing because there are some games where it is impossible to hit big multiplier in normal spins such as Sweet Bonanza and its family members.

I didn't know that about Sweet Bonanza. I've been always wondering why I don't hit high multipliers on this slot with my regular spins. Now I know why! Thank you, @panjul07!

If you play such game, buying bonus is exactly increase your chance to win big than playing normal spins.
Buying bonus is simply an instant way to enter the bonus round, while playing normal spins may not give you guarantee entering the bonus round although you spend the same amount as the bonus buy cost.
By the way, I have just hit a close to max win in Gates of Heaven, anyone can watch the replay here https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/wHLqWogZrA
I was so confidence that it would hit max win because of the 500x and 250x wild multiplier, but it was not coming true as it stopped at x4575.
Not a huge win as it was with IDR 1,000 base bet only which gave me a win of IDR 4.5M or around $300.

Congrats! That's amazing, bro! What a win that is!

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Correct me, guys, if I'm wrong here, but I think buying free spins isn't increasing your chance of hitting a jackpot. You have the same odds of hitting it with your regular spins, no?

How can you buy something that is free though?.
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Technically, you are right. But it's just called like that.

[panjul07]

Guys, I'm really jealous of you, who managed to get that big win. Now it's rare for me to win even a small victory. Huff, it seems I didn't have good luck last month, but I hope my luck will come again to me this month.

I can only congratulate you who can win that much money. Leave the slot game for me so I can also get a win like you. Don't get it all on your own.

Dont be jealous with any big win in this thread because you do not know how much was spent before hitting the big win. 
Some big wins might not even recover what have been lost while playing before hitting the big win.
Some others might be just small profit after the big win but some also might be luckier as they hit it in few tries only.
What I have shared here so far is just to show that it is not impossible to get big multiplier in slot games.

[ethereumhunter]

Dont be jealous with any big win in this thread because you do not know how much was spent before hitting the big win. 
Some big wins might not even recover what have been lost while playing before hitting the big win.
Some others might be just small profit after the big win but some also might be luckier as they hit it in few tries only.
What I have shared here so far is just to show that it is not impossible to get big multiplier in slot games.

How can I not be jealous of seeing you and your friends succeed in getting such a large multiplier? I really want to get it, even though it won't be as often as you guys. But I realize that it depends on the luck of each of us, so I also can't force myself to keep playing and spend a lot of money. Hopefully, one day I will get a big multiplier that can lead me to win a lot of money. And if I can get a big win, maybe I'll take a break or take a break for a few weeks or a few months

[len01]

Dont be jealous with any big win in this thread because you do not know how much was spent before hitting the big win.  
Some big wins might not even recover what have been lost while playing before hitting the big win.
Some others might be just small profit after the big win but some also might be luckier as they hit it in few tries only.
What I have shared here so far is just to show that it is not impossible to get big multiplier in slot games.

How can I not be jealous of seeing you and your friends succeed in getting such a large multiplier? I really want to get it, even though it won't be as often as you guys. But I realize that it depends on the luck of each of us, so I also can't force myself to keep playing and spend a lot of money. Hopefully, one day I will get a big multiplier that can lead me to win a lot of money. And if I can get a big win, maybe I'll take a break or take a break for a few weeks or a few months

come on mate dont give up try more and more Im sure you will get it (if lucky )
well, I understand, maybe you are jealous of seeing the links shared by some people here with big wins and I understand that one day you want a big multiplier with maxwin, but after that, try to calculate the total money you spend with your big win, Im sure you myself will laugh a little.

and also Im not sure that after one day you get a large amount of maxwin Im sure you will continue to visit slot games more.