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November 23, 2011, 10:18:27 PM
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Damn the chicken and egg dilemma.
Let's force a chicken, and then the egg will come naturally.

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November 23, 2011, 10:20:37 PM
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Damn the chicken and egg dilemma.
Let's force a chicken, and then the egg will come naturally.

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November 24, 2011, 12:41:44 AM
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Add me to the list

Our family was terrorized by Homeland Security.  Read all about it here:  http://www.jmwagner.com/ and http://www.burtw.com/  Any donations to help us recover from the $300,000 in legal fees and forced donations to the Federal Asset Forfeiture slush fund are greatly appreciated!
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November 24, 2011, 12:46:47 AM
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Put me down too.
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November 24, 2011, 12:48:27 AM
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Damn the chicken and egg dilemma.
Let's force a chicken, and then the egg will come naturally.

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...Wouldn't you need to force 2 chickens?

This is just getting obscene.

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November 24, 2011, 05:27:44 AM
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I believe chickens lay eggs even without a cock. They're not inseminated though, obviously, so you may have a point.

The cock is classically not considered in any chicken or egg problem though.

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November 24, 2011, 06:15:16 AM
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Hen lays eggs. Cock inseminates.  Grin

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November 24, 2011, 06:17:13 AM
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Teaches me to not make posts at 6 AM when just waking up. Corrected Smiley

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November 24, 2011, 06:19:54 AM
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November 24, 2011, 06:38:45 AM
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I want to take this time to thank our most recent pledgers:

33. Clark (1 Per Charitable Organization ~ Maxed at 25)
34. freequant (1 Per C.O. ~ No Max Stated /\/\ An additional 100 BTC pledge to the Red Cross & Unicef if/when they get on-board)
35. beckspace (1+)
36. amazingrando (1 Per Charitable Organization ~ For First 20)
37. bwagner (100)
38. k (1)

Thank you all kindly for your generosity.
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November 24, 2011, 06:53:31 AM
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I'm calling it a night. I can't wait til morning to see who'll be the 39th person to pledge.

The Bitcoin100:

#   Pseudonym (Name)   (Initial Pledge: expressed in at least (1) BTC total unless stated otherwise)

1. Phinnaeus Gage (Bruno) (100+)
2. Coinabul (2)
3. MemoryDealers (Roger Ver) (10 Per Charitable Organization ~ Initial Max at 1,000)
4. amincd (1)
5. CIYAM Pty. Ltd. (Ian Knowles) (5 Total ~ at least)
6. damnek (1)
7. BTCurious (30+)
8. Shuai (1)
9. Technomage (1+)
10. MaxSan (2)
11. Steve (1)
12. meanig (1)
13. Littleshop (5)
14. zhoutong (10 Per Charitable Organization ~ Initial Max at 500)
15. DeathAndTaxes (1)
16. Yankee (10 Per Charitable Organization ~ No Max on Initial Pledge)
17. dancupid (1)
18. Meni Rosenfeld (1 Per Charitable Organization ~ With a Min/Max Caveat)
19. evoorhees (1)
20. Bit-pay Merchant Solutions (2 Per Charitable Organization)
21. fizzisist (10+)
22. gigasvps (1)
23. ALPHA (1)
24. paraipan (1+)
25. Isosceles (1)
26. gsan (1 Per Charitable Organization ~ Currently Maxed at 50)
27. Vince Torres (1)
28. chunglam (10+)
29. lamec (1+)
30. Jan (1)
31. hashman (50+)
32. BitcoinBug (1)
33. Clark (1 Per Charitable Organization ~ Maxed at 25)
34. freequant (1 Per C.O. ~ No Max Stated /\/\ An additional 100 BTC pledge to the Red Cross & Unicef if/when they get on-board)
35. beckspace (1+)
36. amazingrando (1 Per Charitable Organization ~ For First 20)
37. bwagner (100)
38. k (1)
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November 24, 2011, 10:49:33 AM
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I pledge 1 BTC under 2 conditions.

1)  Half-jokingly, I would like a pm to remind me to donate my 1 BTC.  By the time any of this comes to fruition, I will have likely forgotten this thread.

2)  I get to be #100   Grin

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November 24, 2011, 01:34:26 PM
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I can offer 1 BTC per charity up to a maximum of 100 BTC.

I reserve the right to refuse to donate to a charity I have a strong moral objection to but I highly doubt this will apply to more than 1 or 2 of 100 randomly selected charities.

Additionally, I would require there to be a mailing list which would e-mail me about each new charity and provide a link and a BTC address (the e-mail address I use here is my old address and not suitable).
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November 24, 2011, 02:00:41 PM
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I love this idea, although i have almost no BTCs, and less to spare, maybe in the future i'll pledge but not today.

Great plan though, keep up the work everyone!  Grin

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November 24, 2011, 02:40:06 PM
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Can we get bit-pay involved in this somehow so these organizations have an easy, "done for you" solution to accepting bitcoins?

Maybe the guys at bit-pay would be willing to lower their fees for charitable organizations?

While having money ready to go to donate is awesome, I also think we should be offering a "solution" to the problem we say they have.
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November 24, 2011, 02:50:50 PM
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Clearly at $2.35 per btc, with one or two charities per week accepting bitcoin, most people living in Western countries should be able to afford this. However should 1 bitcoin be worth $10,000 5 years from now, I may have difficulty producing the money (even if I've invested in bitcoins).
I would therefore like to modify my initial promise to the first 150 charities (that way I can buy 150btc today knowing I can keep to my side of the agreement irrespective of the future value of bitcoin)
I realise posting a reply on a forum doesn't form a contractual legal agreement (does it?!), but I'd like to be able to take part at the level I feel I can afford. And I think if I have a 100btc personal investment 5 years from now, I may be a bit hesitant giving them away to charity if they are worth $10,000 each.
Once we get to 150 charities, I'll see where I stand.

Edit - I've just now bought 150 bitcoins to cover this - I look forward to the 1st charity that accepts
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November 24, 2011, 02:56:49 PM
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Can we get bit-pay involved in this somehow so these organizations have an easy, "done for you" solution to accepting bitcoins?

Maybe the guys at bit-pay would be willing to lower their fees for charitable organizations?
Bit-pay already has a plan for charities.

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November 24, 2011, 04:24:30 PM
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However should 1 bitcoin be worth $10,000 5 years from now, I may have difficulty producing the money (even if I've invested in bitcoins).
Yeah, that goes for most people indeed. It was also mentioned in the OP. Shouldn't be a problem, really.

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November 24, 2011, 04:58:39 PM
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I pledge 1 BTC under 2 conditions.

1)  Half-jokingly, I would like a pm to remind me to donate my 1 BTC.  By the time any of this comes to fruition, I will have likely forgotten this thread.

2)  I get to be #100   Grin

No half-joking at all in this post. #1 is a given. Still working out the minor detail of the notification process, whether it'll be PM, text, email, Twitter, Facebook, Google+, etc., or a combination of all.

As far as #2, why not? Done!
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November 24, 2011, 06:37:58 PM
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Count me in, at least for the first few rounds. I have a few extra bitcoins (and I hope to get more, so I can keep donating).

Bitcoins are a great way to anonymously donate to charities.

Some people think libertarians are against charities and helping the poor. On the contrary, libertarians willingly donate to charities, they just don't like being forced to give to others. (Not trying to make this a political discussion, just throwing it out there)

Thank you kindly, Peter, for your pledge. I took the liberty to posting (5+) as your pledge in reference to your few extra bitcoins statement, coupled with my interpretation of such.

In re, your second sentence. I didn't know there were libertarians on this board. May have to rethink my Bitcoin position now that this relative information has come to light. Seriously, I lean Conservative, but hold many values and political views offered up by the other parties. I even lean towards atheism which would shock my Jehovah Witness friend (if he knew) who stopped by yesterday to witness to me. Afterwards, I'm pretty sure he was somewhat shocked when I ask him to lead us (him and I) in prayer. I say that because I'm also sure he hadn't gotten that request very often by others he's witnessed to.

Clearly at $2.35 per btc, with one or two charities per week accepting bitcoin, most people living in Western countries should be able to afford this. However should 1 bitcoin be worth $10,000 5 years from now, I may have difficulty producing the money (even if I've invested in bitcoins).
I would therefore like to modify my initial promise to the first 150 charities (that way I can buy 150btc today knowing I can keep to my side of the agreement irrespective of the future value of bitcoin)
I realise posting a reply on a forum doesn't form a contractual legal agreement (does it?!), but I'd like to be able to take part at the level I feel I can afford. And I think if I have a 100btc personal investment 5 years from now, I may be a bit hesitant giving them away to charity if they are worth $10,000 each.
Once we get to 150 charities, I'll see where I stand.

Edit - I've just now bought 150 bitcoins to cover this - I look forward to the 1st charity that accepts

As BT mentioned (quoted below), the 1 BTC is not written in stone. It will be adjusted when (hell with if or if/when) Bitcoin increase in value. That said, I have you down for 1.5M BTC (only kidding).

Thank you, also, for your very kind pledge, dancupid. The pledge list has been updated to reflect your generosity.

However should 1 bitcoin be worth $10,000 5 years from now, I may have difficulty producing the money (even if I've invested in bitcoins).
Yeah, that goes for most people indeed. It was also mentioned in the OP. Shouldn't be a problem, really.

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Can we get bit-pay involved in this somehow so these organizations have an easy, "done for you" solution to accepting bitcoins?

Maybe the guys at bit-pay would be willing to lower their fees for charitable organizations?
Bit-pay already has a plan for charities.

I feel I can work bit-pay into the Bitcoin100 equation, Meni & gigasvps.

I can offer 1 BTC per charity up to a maximum of 100 BTC.

I reserve the right to refuse to donate to a charity I have a strong moral objection to but I highly doubt this will apply to more than 1 or 2 of 100 randomly selected charities.

Additionally, I would require there to be a mailing list which would e-mail me about each new charity and provide a link and a BTC address (the e-mail address I use here is my old address and not suitable).


And, thank you, teukon, for your kind pledge.

Reservations will be allowed by all those who pledge. The finer details will be worked out so that all know what charitable organization they'll be donating to. Members may even request how they would like to be contacted and updated, differently. For starters, along with this thread, I'll have a Twitter account set up, Facebook, Google+, etc.,--the usual suspects--to keep everyone abreast.

Note to self: Next time keep your ideas to yourself. This is beginning to be a job. But, like McDonalds--I'm Lovin' It!

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