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June 21, 2020, 11:52:59 AM
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It's a boring game for those who are not good at it, I know a little about this game but I don't bother to improve and gain some skills as I'm not into this kind of games. I grow up watching my relatives playing basketball so it has been my hobby and overtime when I learn about sports betting I was tempted to starting betting in sports particular in basketball.

If we rank chess in the list of popular sports in the world, I don't where it rank.

in the top 25 popular sports I've found in the internet, chess is not included.

https://list25.com/25-most-popular-sports-in-the-world/

Yes, it is quite boring but in Russia it is very popular, it's their national sport, it's a good sport for the elders so they will not have issues about being forgetfulness and their mental health improve, with the help of the internet people from all walks of life and anywhere on the planet can battle each other, there are a lot of chess club online and offline

Don't know about that but it's good you bring such information here, personally I'm not from Russia so I really have no idea.
Anyway, I'm talking about the overall market of chess game, they are not popular in sportsbook because it's not a kind of game that would attract a crowd.

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June 21, 2020, 12:16:33 PM
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Don't know about that but it's good you bring such information here, personally I'm not from Russia so I really have no idea.
Anyway, I'm talking about the overall market of chess game, they are not popular in sportsbook because it's not a kind of game that would attract a crowd.

It's the national sport of Russia they have a long line of world champion, they may not attract a lot of sites for betting, but their online chess platform has a good ranking hundreds of thousands of players meet here to play online

https://lichess.org/

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/lichess.org#trafficstats This site ranks: #1,164 in global internet engagement

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June 21, 2020, 01:48:42 PM
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Chess is a good sport, but it's slow paced. Way too slow paced. And by slow paced, that even if the game only lasted for 30 minutes, you'd still feel bored of the slowness of the movements of the board. You can even expect to see casters of chess tournames to run out of words to say, why? Simply because the board hasn't moved for quite some time. And imo, enough time for them to describe every advantageous move possible. It's fun to watch streamers play against pros on their free time (while waiting for queues), but that's about it. I mean, even viewers get bored when they only watch the streamer wait for the queue to pop up. But if you were to watch chess solely in its full essence? Only a select few would appreciate it imo.

There's also the issue of how they show the board on a 2d screen, like it lacks appeal. Of course, I'm not saying that making it 3d would make it look better, but you get my point.

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June 22, 2020, 10:49:48 AM
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Don't know about that but it's good you bring such information here, personally I'm not from Russia so I really have no idea.
Anyway, I'm talking about the overall market of chess game, they are not popular in sportsbook because it's not a kind of game that would attract a crowd.

It's the national sport of Russia they have a long line of world champion, they may not attract a lot of sites for betting, but their online chess platform has a good ranking hundreds of thousands of players meet here to play online

https://lichess.org/

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/lichess.org#trafficstats This site ranks: #1,164 in global internet engagement

Wow! Again sorry for underestimating this game, was just expressing my opinion that this game is not as popular compared to the games I'm betting,  didn't know it's very popular in Russia. Anyway, hopefully for the chess bettors they can bet in different gambling sites, also, I don't know if our popular sports book here are offering such kind of game and if they do, hopefully they will put a huge limit so they can accommodate gamblers especially from Russia.

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June 22, 2020, 11:46:20 AM
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Don't know about that but it's good you bring such information here, personally I'm not from Russia so I really have no idea.
Anyway, I'm talking about the overall market of chess game, they are not popular in sportsbook because it's not a kind of game that would attract a crowd.

It's the national sport of Russia they have a long line of world champion, they may not attract a lot of sites for betting, but their online chess platform has a good ranking hundreds of thousands of players meet here to play online

https://lichess.org/

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/lichess.org#trafficstats This site ranks: #1,164 in global internet engagement

Wow! Again sorry for underestimating this game, was just expressing my opinion that this game is not as popular compared to the games I'm betting,  didn't know it's very popular in Russia. Anyway, hopefully for the chess bettors they can bet in different gambling sites, also, I don't know if our popular sports book here are offering such kind of game and if they do, hopefully they will put a huge limit so they can accommodate gamblers especially from Russia.

That's okay to misjudged this type of game, because most chess players will be the only one to appreciate this type of gambling if possible. Hopefully this brings good opportunities to those who loved to play chess. Most people I known only played this game for popularity and contests, and no money involved like betting.
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June 22, 2020, 05:35:41 PM
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I like playing chess, but watching it is quite boring. One match can take several hours and sometimes it can take up to 1 hour before a player makes a move.
I know some betting platform where you can bet on chess (but they do not accept cryptos).



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June 23, 2020, 08:11:14 AM
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It's getting a lot of attention because people are now lockdown or quarantine in their home and chess is the easiest and a game that you can play against anyone across the globe, it should have a  mass appeal because it's interactive and you can play at the comfort of your home or anywhere because of the internet.

Chess is really an interesting sports and I already played it since when I was young. Now that this Chess sports game is now in gambling platform, this will be a good feature as many people wants to play chess in gambling. All of us are only knowledgeable about the traditional chess where you will play in a certain table, but now, as our technology is advancing, they put it into a gambling platform where you can play with other people and it involves money.

This a great game as it will enhance your critical thinking skills and you will treat every game seriously because the fate of your bet and money depends on your performance. Chess adoption in online gambling platform is really good, it is a mental exercise as well as winning profits.
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June 23, 2020, 08:35:17 AM
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In my opinion, it still a good way to earn money by betting on the chess game. I myself also play board games like chess and checkers. I even have a book of checkers that you can study to become a good player. Even though not many people play chess but in my point of view watching a game of chess is also entertaining on what move will a player make.

I guess another way to learn chess is to get one on your computer(they are normally pre-installed) and learn to play it by following the direction provided by the chess software creator... Or you could get a chess video tutorial on video sites like Youtube and follow the instructions while learning to play the game on your computer
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The easiest way to play chess is to play it by installing it on the phone rather than on the computer Here we can play as we wish and there are many great places to learn I play with everyone in the ordinary house but now gambling is playing a very effective role. It's a great time to play chess and earn money from sitting at home in the lockdown It's easier and more fun than other games.

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I have never thought about this before but this can be a great addition to casinos.Just like poker tables where they get a profit from the total amount of the hand played they can implement it on chess although not at this scale.They can make a p2p play and the winner also pay 5-10% commission to the casino which is offering this service.

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June 25, 2020, 03:08:21 PM
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I have never thought about this before but this can be a great addition to casinos.Just like poker tables where they get a profit from the total amount of the hand played they can implement it on chess although not at this scale.They can make a p2p play and the winner also pay 5-10% commission to the casino which is offering this service.
If there are no money to be made, I doubt that casino will immediately jump on the bandwagon and add it to their platform. Yes, there are a strong follower of this sport, but unlike poker, there is no fun playing with chess with two players sitting on opposite side. Unlike poker wherein, they can make fun of each other and reading each other. 5-10% commission is not that bad, but if there are no demand then they won't offer it.

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If there is a surge of demand popular gambling platforms might add in their pool of games.
Although not anyone can join in because you need to have an opponent, how would they resolve that. They also need fast matches because people dont want long hard games just to earn little amount.

chess has a quick game called blitz that could last for only 10 min but the game could last longer if the match has a time increment(I included a link so if your interested how time increment works on chess you can just click it). but in the end, there is not enough tournament or popular enough that only focuses on blitz matches.

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June 25, 2020, 05:13:00 PM
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The problem of chess is that it has very low probability influence. I mean that it's obviously who would win (if you know players of course) in the certain game, so betting business is to hard to do it. Games where winner is not determined before game start is rare games (world championships), and betting must be often event, like 2-3 games in a week to bet.

For me, i personally playing a lot at chess.com, so i know what i'm talking about  Smiley

chess has a quick game called blitz that could last for only 10 min but the game could last longer if the match has a time increment(I included a link so if your interested how time increment works on chess you can just click it). but in the end, there is not enough tournament or popular enough that only focuses on blitz matches.

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Real blitz is 5 minutes swiss blitz or 3 minutes game (for each move you have few seconds and you don't have chance for a mistake). 10 minutes it's "fast chess".

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Well, chess has it's last renaissance during the 70's with Kasparov and Karpov, I still remember it being played in the streets as sort of past time that time and then evolved as being used to 'hussle', like 3 card monte.

But I would agree that the game is somewhat boring and bettors are looking for exciting game specially with the physical aspect (contact sports). So I doubt it will have the support specially at today's time wherein football, UFC, basketball is the top pick for sports bettor.
Chess is a very difficult game to get into for several factors, one of them is that to get any insight into the game you need to invest many hours in it and even then the top players play at a level that even other good players have a problem understanding which makes it difficult to watch, also the matches last very long and lets be honest watching two players not moving for hours is not the most exciting thing in the world, however I am sure that if we see another craze like the one we saw during the 70’s then sports books may add chess in the future.

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The thing is if esports and other sports can be manipulated so do chess and it's more likely to have than the others, match fixing is the one I fear on this kind of thing.

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I would like to close with a disclaimer: sports betting can be addictive and one should not be fooled by attractive offers to begin betting on chess. In the long run, the bookie always wins and if need be he will regain his money when people bet on soccer — which is a real gamble.
https://en.chessbase.com/post/chess-bets

Guess manipulations will be less on the top popular chess games. People here seem to think that the smaller/unpopular sport are easy to fix or manipulate. .. The popular ones tend to have more eyes on them, more effective rules and better officiating. This probably applies to the chess
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The problem of chess is that it has very low probability influence. I mean that it's obviously who would win (if you know players of course) in the certain game, so betting business is to hard to do it. Games where winner is not determined before game start is rare games (world championships), and betting must be often event, like 2-3 games in a week to bet.

For me, i personally playing a lot at chess.com, so i know what i'm talking about  Smiley
Well at some point, even the top ratings with 2800 are being defeated by 2700 ratings.
There are recent tournaments that GM Magnus Carlsen wasn't on the finals. Same with other online games, there are teams that you knew are undefeatable but being defeated by a rising team, those scenarios can always happen.

Well, chess has it's last renaissance during the 70's with Kasparov and Karpov, I still remember it being played in the streets as sort of past time that time and then evolved as being used to 'hussle', like 3 card monte.

But I would agree that the game is somewhat boring and bettors are looking for exciting game specially with the physical aspect (contact sports). So I doubt it will have the support specially at today's time wherein football, UFC, basketball is the top pick for sports bettor.
Chess is a very difficult game to get into for several factors, one of them is that to get any insight into the game you need to invest many hours in it and even then the top players play at a level that even other good players have a problem understanding which makes it difficult to watch, also the matches last very long and lets be honest watching two players not moving for hours is not the most exciting thing in the world, however I am sure that if we see another craze like the one we saw during the 70’s then sports books may add chess in the future.
Since chess is on the top streaming right now, those popular streamers could influence others to be interested in the game. The problem is, when they knew the term "chess" they think it as a hard, complex, difficult, and very boring game even though they didn't play the game. There's a mode in chess which is blitz, a 5 minutes game and tbh it's very suspense and thrilling if you knew the game even its basics.
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No offense but most people nowadays look at chess as a boring sport. Though I am seeing it being applied in esports but a game mode of it. It was started in the arcade of Dota 2 which is the Dota Chess. It is pretty interesting and addicting to be honest since it is like a gamble where you based on your luck if the heroes you will be getting will follow what you want to build.

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June 26, 2020, 04:34:50 PM
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No offense but most people nowadays look at chess as a boring sport. Though I am seeing it being applied in esports but a game mode of it. It was started in the arcade of Dota 2 which is the Dota Chess. It is pretty interesting and addicting to be honest since it is like a gamble where you based on your luck if the heroes you will be getting will follow what you want to build.

Some years back I tried playing chess and also did learned from the friend or must say tried learning the game but soon understood that this requires huge concentration and need to be very focused as you need to know not only your movement but also how the opponents movement and how it could be danger if you move just 1 wrong move in the game. It is very exhaustive game but not my type of it.

Well, its about tactics, strategies, the memorization of possible moves. It is exhausting but it is really fun if you are thinking about how you will be taking down your opponent's king. But it is more fun when they actually apply it in games. Started by Dota 2, as far as I know, LoL also have this game mode and also Mobile Legends.

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June 26, 2020, 11:26:47 PM
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Real blitz is 5 minutes swiss blitz or 3 minutes game (for each move you have few seconds and you don't have chance for a mistake). 10 minutes it's "fast chess".

I've tried some of those online chess sites - I hadn't realised the players expect the game to be over in a matter of minutes and they get very aggressive in the Troll Boxes if you actually stop to think about your moves for a few seconds.

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