⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Italian Serie A ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024

[Harkorede]

Milan lose or draw this game tonight and I will make an early call on Napoli... they may not end up with 100 points (50 at exactly halfway now) but everyone else is dropping points for fun I suspect they can even seal the league with 85 points. Napoli really that good? Or everyone else just really that bad?

Lazio totally humiliated AC Milan 4 goals to Nil, even though the scoreline doesn't completely depicts the game play and how it all turned out, perhaps a 2-1 or 2-0 scoreline would have justified the entire game in all fairness.

As for Napoli being really good, or every other team just being bad or perhaps, not just good enough is better description is this case, just 1 lost and 2 draws halfway into the league in an absolute brilliance in any league, even in that of the French or German league where there is a kind of monopoly haven't been that good this season. The only league where we have something somewhat similar is in the premier league with Arsenal, and we've come to terms with the fact they're just absolutely class above every other team this season, and I think nothing short of the recognition should be said about Napoli this season as well, and if for nothing else's sake the fact they finished top of their CL group stage almost unscathed, against Liverpool, Ajax, and Rangers.

[Trofo]

Milan lose or draw this game tonight and I will make an early call on Napoli... they may not end up with 100 points (50 at exactly halfway now) but everyone else is dropping points for fun I suspect they can even seal the league with 85 points. Napoli really that good? Or everyone else just really that bad?

Lazio totally humiliated AC Milan 4 goals to Nil, even though the scoreline doesn't completely depicts the game play and how it all turned out, perhaps a 2-1 or 2-0 scoreline would have justified the entire game in all fairness.

Milan seems in free fall after the world cup, most players totally out of form. Some with contract negotiations like Leao to further distract them. I never thought they really have the quality to mount title defense but it was sort of working while they had form.

4 goals diference for Lazio was unexpected even with Milan in bad form.

[slaman29]

If Napoli doesnt win this Scudetto, they dont win NEVER again. The most easy in his history, practicaly all the teams are playing for them, no one its strong and plus Juventus asides of being weak they lose 15 points by administrative way.

Milan needs to recover the memory the game of today was pathetic, and it seem like they are playing this way for a few games.

My god, that was not just a loss but a complete dismantling, and the worst thing is they just gave another top 4 rival even better footing now. So all games in hand are gone and Napoli have a 4 loss cushion, with only 19 games, then the title is for sure theirs.

Like you said, if they crumble however, they will never recover again.

[casperBGD]

not sure if anyone was watching first half, but Milan conceived three goals until 30 minutes, and it is 1:3 at home with Sassuolo, they seem as low range team at the momebt, and sliding down

thought for a minute to bet on a win, but @5 is not good value, maybe @1.6 on Sassuolo, while leading 3:1 is even better

[Harkorede]

not sure if anyone was watching first half, but Milan conceived three goals until 30 minutes, and it is 1:3 at home with Sassuolo, they seem as low range team at the momebt, and sliding down

thought for a minute to bet on a win, but @5 is not good value, maybe @1.6 on Sassuolo, while leading 3:1 is even better

The current scores is 2-5, and we are into additional minute, so it's likely going to be the final score, maybe betting against AC Milan until the end of the season might actually be a very smart idea, they've conceded 12 goals in their last 3 games, and it's not getting any better for them to be honest, there are just way too many issues with them right putting any more of them is nothing but an absolute waste. with their current trend, I'll definitely check if I can still get some good values on outright bets for them to not secure even an Europa league spot.

[buwaytress]

Wow. Just as I thought Atalanta finds a way to score the goals, they let in 5 at home against... Sassuolo haha. If Giroud's opener had stood, it could have been a whole different ball game after.

It was such an interesting prospect to see Sassuolo at 1.09 live even leading 3-1 at HT, I took them and tagged them on a Liverpool ML... so let's see how my Sunday pans out. Might be tempted to go on Monza later if all is well in 40 mins. Heh.

[Trofo]

Wow. Just as I thought Atalanta finds a way to score the goals, they let in 5 at home against... Sassuolo haha. If Giroud's opener had stood, it could have been a whole different ball game after.

It was such an interesting prospect to see Sassuolo at 1.09 live even leading 3-1 at HT, I took them and tagged them on a Liverpool ML... so let's see how my Sunday pans out. Might be tempted to go on Monza later if all is well in 40 mins. Heh.

Hope you took Monza in the end since they are already 2:0 up. What a day in Italy, will be nice bonuses for bookie workers.

Have no idea what is happening with Milan, they were good before World Cup and then total disarray after the world cup. There has to be some problems in dressing room, not possible that everyone just forgot how to play.

[darxiaomi]

Wow. Just as I thought Atalanta finds a way to score the goals, they let in 5 at home against... Sassuolo haha. If Giroud's opener had stood, it could have been a whole different ball game after.

It was such an interesting prospect to see Sassuolo at 1.09 live even leading 3-1 at HT, I took them and tagged them on a Liverpool ML... so let's see how my Sunday pans out. Might be tempted to go on Monza later if all is well in 40 mins. Heh.

Hope you took Monza in the end since they are already 2:0 up. What a day in Italy, will be nice bonuses for bookie workers.

Have no idea what is happening with Milan, they were good before World Cup and then total disarray after the world cup. There has to be some problems in dressing room, not possible that everyone just forgot how to play.

Yes i think exactly the same way, for me its like the players wants Pioli to go out. I saw some parts of the match against Lazio and was like nobody wants to play seriusly, and today dont see any but... 5-2 against a shit Sasuolo? and in home.... its really strange.

Here in Argentina we are going to say " they are making him a bed"

[buwaytress]

Hope you took Monza in the end since they are already 2:0 up. What a day in Italy, will be nice bonuses for bookie workers.

Have no idea what is happening with Milan, they were good before World Cup and then total disarray after the world cup. There has to be some problems in dressing room, not possible that everyone just forgot how to play.

Unfortunately not. I was about to pull the trigger when Monza's first goal was disallowed, but then I spent too much time looking at horrible Liverpool play (more on that I'm too tired to explain). But yeah, time to get serious about Monza, I predicted 2-1 on them on Superbru but that was more hopeful than anything else to try and climb the table.

Honestly don't know what's going on in Serie A other than much-publicised Juve... but Napoli seems to be the only one keeping form.

And dare I say, Lazio's the one now improving theirs?

[KTChampions]

not sure if anyone was watching first half, but Milan conceived three goals until 30 minutes, and it is 1:3 at home with Sassuolo, they seem as low range team at the momebt, and sliding down

thought for a minute to bet on a win, but @5 is not good value, maybe @1.6 on Sassuolo, while leading 3:1 is even better

Wow, the bookmakers believed in Milan until the very end. I didn't see the game but 1.6 for a team that leads 3-1 is very generous, especially given that there are obvious problems in Milan. I'm not sure if I would have made this bet myself if I had followed the game, but this choice would have been very convenient for hedging, since with every minute played and the score unchanged, Milan's odds should have increased very quickly.

[buwaytress]

Not looking good for my Coppa bet. Need to kick myself each time a game looks tempting, but I thought Inter would continue their slump, while Atalanta might go on scoring. Still half an hour to play but I'm switching off. Don't remember a recent time Atalanta haven't mustered a single attempt on goal... while Inter are trying for fun. Maybe I wake up and Lookman becomes a hero again but Zapata and Pasalic are shades away from themselves...

[casperBGD]

one goal from Inter was enough to send them into semi-final, whereas Lazio and Juventus will play for their opponent plays

today Fiorentina vs Torino, and Roma vs Cremonese, almost nothing to bet on, Fiorentina should win, but could end up easily as draw, and Roma is almost similar, goals are far from certain on both matches
Roma and Fiorentina to qualify does not pay well, so skipping it compeletely, going for Lazio tomorrow, @4 has value in current situation

[morvillz7z]

Premier League spending close to $1 bil in the winter transfer window for fun...in an alternate universe, Samp's players/coaches/staff haven't received their wages for the past 3-4 months (around $11 million). Team is two weeks away from being handed a points penalty if those things aren't cleared by then. Bankruptcy is also an option:  

source: https://football-italia.net/after-juventus-sampdoria-also-risk-points-penalty-in-serie-a/

The Blucerchiati haven’t paid wages for the final quarter of 2022 and need €11m to cancel the debt with players and staff members. It’s not over, as the club also needs a capital injection of €35m-50m from the Ferrero family today.

It’s unlikely that the family that still holds a controlling stake in the club will make such an investment, especially because Massimo Ferrero, who resigned as Sampdria’s president after his arrest in December 2021, has been in talks to sell the club for several months.

The club must pay salaries for the final quarter of 2022 by February 16. If it doesn’t happen, the Blucerchiati will get points deduction for the current Serie A campaign.

going for Lazio tomorrow, @4 has value in current situation

I grabbed btts at almost even money, though i have zero confidence in my pick...cup matches are equally unimportant for both teams.

[slaman29]

going for Lazio tomorrow, @4 has value in current situation

I grabbed btts at almost even money, though i have zero confidence in my pick...cup matches are equally unimportant for both teams.

I narrowly skipped Lazio yesterday. I went for Valencia in other Spanish cup game but put the same money on Real+Juventus multi as a counterbet so I won that (but net is a small loss as total was only less than 2x).

Funny enough we could trust both favorites to win, Juventus even went back to 1-0 in regular time, what was strange was they had 5 times more attempts than Lazio!

[morvillz7z]

going for Lazio tomorrow, @4 has value in current situation

I grabbed btts at almost even money, though i have zero confidence in my pick...cup matches are equally unimportant for both teams.

I narrowly skipped Lazio yesterday. I went for Valencia in other Spanish cup game but put the same money on Real+Juventus multi as a counterbet so I won that (but net is a small loss as total was only less than 2x).

Nice! I should have at least checked the starting lineups before placing in my bet. Milinkovic-Savic (Lazio's best player this season) was given a rest, i mean he came on as a sub in the second half but that did not change much. Lazio very pedestrian, as expected i would add, with almost no chances created. Finishing in the top four should be their main goal rest of the season. Champions League participation trumps their upcoming playoffs in the Conference League by far.

These bad boys might get an even bigger discount in the upcoming weeks: 



"Juventus fear at least 20 Serie A points docked over wages"

[buwaytress]

Cannot do anything right in football. Might just have to take a break or something, or go back to simple "bet anything above 5/1" and sit back and see the money rolling in.

And yes, Atalanta is the current cause of me getting philosophical. Next bet. Not Juventus, right?

[Harkorede]

These bad boys might get an even bigger discount in the upcoming weeks:  



"Juventus fear at least 20 Serie A points docked over wages"

Should another 20 points get deducted from Juventus, they sure would be plying their trade in the Serie B come next season right ? wow! Nothing is currently going well for the club, too bad for team that were supposedly gradually getting back to their feet this season.

If those 20 points fine goes through, it might be just about the right time to get me some Juventus fan token on Socios, if it is already available there, I'll expect the fan token price to declined drastically, especially once their Serie B status gets confirmed, epic!

[morvillz7z]

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Should another 20 points get deducted from Juventus, they sure would be plying their trade in the Serie B come next season right ? wow! Nothing is currently going well for the club, too bad for team that were supposedly gradually getting back to their feet this season.

Those -15 points came from the football federation and since false accounting is a criminal offense, their case will be investigated/reviewed by the Italian judicial system. So another penalty is more than likely, afaik, the court hearings are scheduled for next month... Even if they get that extra points removed they can still make it out, plenty of matches left, they just have to win almost every other game.

As much as i like to take shots at Juventus, things could turn bad for my team as well: "Italian prosecutors probe AC Milan's 1.2 bln euro sale".

Calciopoli vibes all over again...

[slaman29]

Juventus can go to Serie C even and their fan tokens would be worth a lot of money once they return to Serie A. Some clubs are too big to fail these days, everyone will go in and bail them out.

morvillz7z tough news for AC Milan and the team is also playing badly... Milan derby, BTTS is the safest? I feel like BTTS in Serie A is no longer guaranteed and even sometimes I see odds not 1.5 anymore. Of course this is just because no game had it last night and today also didn't hit yet.

[Harkorede]

Juventus can go to Serie C even and their fan tokens would be worth a lot of money once they return to Serie A. Some clubs are too big to fail these days, everyone will go in and bail them out.

That's the idea, buy when the team is in deep shit and most holders looking to part ways with their investment, but people in the crypto sphere for long enough would know it's just a matter of time before Juventus gets back to the top flight and by then, the token would likely be worth more than what one could imagined by then.

morvillz7z tough news for AC Milan and the team is also playing badly... Milan derby, BTTS is the safest? I feel like BTTS in Serie A is no longer guaranteed and even sometimes I see odds not 1.5 anymore. Of course this is just because no game had it last night and today also didn't hit yet.

Everything is just working pretty well for a Napoli league triumph, there is probably no team left to stop them now aside Inter Milan, and I'm also very happy with Victor Osimhen doing my nation proud, he's the favorite to finish as the top scorer of the league this season, after adding a brace to his tally today.