French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1)

[rendravolt]

Two relegation zone teams will face each other this week and I'm pretty sure one of them will get their first win of the season. The match will bring Lyon vs Clermont together and as we know both teams are very down and have only drawn and lost so far. Even though last season these two teams were quite fine, entrenched in the middle of the table, unforeseen circumstances must always be faced by teams that fail to maintain stability.

Maybe Lyon will be favored to win because they are the hosts and I don't think that is a strong reason for Lyon at this time because they still get bad results. I'm still waiting for Lyon's comeback moment with their first win and if they can do it in this match without any obstacles, then I'm pretty sure they will be a little better in the next match. What do you think? Does Lyon have a chance to win this week's match?

[Minecache]

Two relegation zone teams will face each other this week and I'm pretty sure one of them will get their first win of the season. The match will bring Lyon vs Clermont together and as we know both teams are very down and have only drawn and lost so far. Even though last season these two teams were quite fine, entrenched in the middle of the table, unforeseen circumstances must always be faced by teams that fail to maintain stability.

Maybe Lyon will be favored to win because they are the hosts and I don't think that is a strong reason for Lyon at this time because they still get bad results. I'm still waiting for Lyon's comeback moment with their first win and if they can do it in this match without any obstacles, then I'm pretty sure they will be a little better in the next match. What do you think? Does Lyon have a chance to win this week's match?

Lyon's performance is very disappointing. Their achievement is only 3 points in 8 matches. The team could not win even one of the 8 matches. I don't think the Lyon team is weak. I have seen good performances from this team in past seasons. But their performance has been very poor since the beginning of this season. And the main reason for their poor performance is their poor defense. They conceded 16 goals in 8 matches. Lyon have one of the weakest defenses in Ligue 1.

Clermont's situation isn't much better either. The last team in the table is now Clermont. Lyon vs Clermont match is more likely to be a draw. The reason is that both parties are weak. And so no team wants to lose points. They will be happy to get 1 point from this match.

[bering]

Two relegation zone teams will face each other this week and I'm pretty sure one of them will get their first win of the season. The match will bring Lyon vs Clermont together and as we know both teams are very down and have only drawn and lost so far. Even though last season these two teams were quite fine, entrenched in the middle of the table, unforeseen circumstances must always be faced by teams that fail to maintain stability.

Maybe Lyon will be favored to win because they are the hosts and I don't think that is a strong reason for Lyon at this time because they still get bad results. I'm still waiting for Lyon's comeback moment with their first win and if they can do it in this match without any obstacles, then I'm pretty sure they will be a little better in the next match. What do you think? Does Lyon have a chance to win this week's match?

A bit sad to see Lyon current condition because they have to fight to avoiding relegation zone and unfortunately until now Grosso still cannot able to find his best strategy for this team and it makes Lyon still unable to get the winning results and actually their upcoming opponent is not really hard because Clermont condition also similar just like Lyon but i think Clermont also is the team who cannot easily to beat because from 2 latest matches Clermont has showing good progress and the latest is they can able to stole point from PSG

According to Lyon recent performance i can see they still unable to managed their consistency and last match against Lorient is the latest prove that Lyon almost be win the match but they cannot managed their performance in the second half and it makes Lyon have to playing draw with Lorient and Grosso should be evaluate this result for upcoming match and if Lyon can able to improved their performance then beat Clermont is not hard for them

[asriloni]

The picture above was the odds for upcoming matches. Even though we are still a few days away from those matches but i can feel that if the hype is coming back again to the continuation of french league.

The first match between havre vs lens.

To be honest, if im feeling so skeptical with lens but the won against arsenal made me believe if lens was slowly going back again to the best form. Lens has been beating two teams who placed above it (toulouse and strasbourg).

Lens is also climbing up again and i think that picking lens would be reasonable caused by the performance is now quite consistent. BTTS has been offering better odds than 1x2 but i think that if 1x2 is much more safer caused by lens is now starting to climb up again.

The second match between PSG vs strasboug.

This match may quite easy to predict if PSG would be winning the game against strasbourg but the odds is pretty small than what i have expected. The odds offered for btts is quite good but it's also risky enough.

Im thinking to risk mybet to pick btts instead of PSG won the game. Strasbourg is not playing that bad even though it was losing in the previous matches.

[Luzin]

PSG support LGBTQI+ rights, perhaps even all clubs in France support the decision to support a trait that many oppose. Ousmane Dembele, Achraf Hakimi, Layvin Kurzawa and Randal Kolo Muani were all sanctioned for not supporting LGBTQI+ freedom. Even these PSG players have been sanctioned by the club and banned from playing once. I disagree with this because they don't respect players who don't support issues that are considered deviant diseases. Because these players also have the right to have opinions and beliefs towards their religion.

Source: https://www.goal.com/

[Weawant]

Lyon's performance is very disappointing. Their achievement is only 3 points in 8 matches. The team could not win even one of the 8 matches. I don't think the Lyon team is weak. I have seen good performances from this team in past seasons. But their performance has been very poor since the beginning of this season. And the main reason for their poor performance is their poor defense. They conceded 16 goals in 8 matches. Lyon have one of the weakest defenses in Ligue 1.

Clermont's situation isn't much better either. The last team in the table is now Clermont. Lyon vs Clermont match is more likely to be a draw. The reason is that both parties are weak. And so no team wants to lose points. They will be happy to get 1 point from this match.

I think the struggle now for Lyon should be getting out of the red zone nd probably steering clear off it for a as long as the season would be because they have started the season on a very poor note and they are now way behind, even if they happen to improve from their current status they will only be struggling to stay In the main league by finishing amongst first seven teams.

Playing against Clermont is another opportunity for them to get three points and leave the relegation zone but if they happen to get a draw or a loss they are definitely not going out of that zone because they will have just four points, although Clermont is not to be underestimated because they are good teams aswell, they have an average performance with their recent games especially when they were able to share points with PSG. If it were to be last season I would have no doubts about Lyon because comparing their performance this season they were much better last season.

[hahay]

Two relegation zone teams will face each other this week and I'm pretty sure one of them will get their first win of the season. The match will bring Lyon vs Clermont together and as we know both teams are very down and have only drawn and lost so far. Even though last season these two teams were quite fine, entrenched in the middle of the table, unforeseen circumstances must always be faced by teams that fail to maintain stability.

Maybe Lyon will be favored to win because they are the hosts and I don't think that is a strong reason for Lyon at this time because they still get bad results. I'm still waiting for Lyon's comeback moment with their first win and if they can do it in this match without any obstacles, then I'm pretty sure they will be a little better in the next match. What do you think? Does Lyon have a chance to win this week's match?

If, for example, I only consider the name, then of course Lyon is still the favorite to win this match. But yes, if I consider their performance so far this season, then there doesn't seem to be a strong guarantee for Lyon to win either. Indeed, I also realize that Lyon will be playing at home, but in reality last season Clermont managed to beat Lyon in both home and away matches. So yes, because at this moment their quality is not much different, then at least Clermont will also be able to provide good resistance to Lyon in this match. So yes, I think any result can happen, that is, I can't guarantee Lyon will win because Lyon is also destroyed at this moment.

[shinratensei_]

PSG support LGBTQI+ rights, perhaps even all clubs in France support the decision to support a trait that many oppose. Ousmane Dembele, Achraf Hakimi, Layvin Kurzawa and Randal Kolo Muani were all sanctioned for not supporting LGBTQI+ freedom. Even these PSG players have been sanctioned by the club and banned from playing once. I disagree with this because they don't respect players who don't support issues that are considered deviant diseases. Because these players also have the right to have opinions and beliefs towards their religion.

Source: https://www.goal.com/

It's not even a surprise for me. PSG has been supporting this since previous seasons and here's proof.

https://www.goal.com/en/news/psg-wear-special-rainbow-flag-numbering-shirts-ligue-1-acknowledges-international-day-against-homophobia/

No doubt if the team would be banning the players who are not having same opinion regarding LGBTQ. I meant they have freedom to express what they agreed or disagreed. That proves that if the club was harshly against someone who is not in the same way with it.

I remember that if idrissa gueye was not even willing to wear the rainbow shirt last season. It sounds no sense how the owner is supporting it. Banning players from not supporting what they have agreed with is a big shame.
That means if there was no right in french league. This league is worst.

Those guys only agree with what they belief. There's nothing wrong with it. It was showing how garbage the quality of this league is. You disagreed with it and then you will be sanctioned. This league is just revealing its true face.

[KTChampions]

The current odds for the Ligue 1 title are as follows:

Paris Saint Germain 1.20

As Monaco Fc 11.00

Olympique Marseille 15.00

Everything is clear here and, in my opinion, even 1.20 is a favorable coefficient (at least it looks more reliable and more profitable than depositing in a bank hahaha). I'm talking about PSG's prospects in the Champions League - if they are lucky with their opponents, they can climb very high (like Inter last year or any other team from the "easy" part of the playoffs).

Betting on the teams like Marseille is actually a death wish because they are not in a good situation at all and they are just waiting to see the Saudis buy thing teams and make a better team in the next season otherwise Marseille will not have a chance to win the title in this season. Also, Monaco has always unstable team and I think the best we can do about this is to take less risk and just bet on PSG because hoping for a miracle is not a wise move in this league.

Yep. In general, I am not against bets with high odds, but not in the case where you have to wait half a year for the outcome. In this case, it may take several years to “catch” the desired outcome, which does not suit me at all.
As for the rumors regarding the purchase of Marseille, it would be good if it were true - having two money bags in Ligue 1 will make it more interesting and I will wish failure on two teams at once and not just one 

[Blitzboy]

Mbappe is one of the most skilled players at the club so the club will never want to clash with him. What happened when the transfer window opened I think the management forgot about these things, they are only planning for the games ahead and planning to use Mbappe properly as long as he is at the club. Mbappe has contributed to every match PSG has won in Ligue 1 and the Champions League, so there is no doubt that he is the team's most important player. Despite the extension of Mbappe's contract with the club, there are rumors that Mbappe may leave PSG next season.

In my opinion, Mbappe is a player who needs money and is chasing lots of trophies. And he really deserves both. Mbappe is the most frightening striker currently for opposing defenders and goalkeepers, on par with Haaland. Maybe PSG will always have the chance to win the League but what about the Champions League and other prestigious trophies? I think Mbappe will choose to leave PSG in the next transfer market.

Mbappe didn't even need money but he needs to achieve more achievements as many as possible. He never got what he wanted in PSG. This is also the main reason why he was also thinking to leave from PSG instead of stay even longer in the club. Mbappe had no choice other than leave from PSG to develop himself as a great player in this decade. In fact, many people are always supporting him no matter where he will be playing with. Mbapp needs to focus in increasing his experience and quality as a great footballers.
Mbappe has won world cup but he never won UCL trophy. Leaving from PSG will give him the right place to get trophy. I hope he will understand it and try to think about leaving from PSG to join in another club like real madrid.

Kylian Mbappe's future worries me. He's gifted. His incredible ball control and quickness set him apart from other footballers his age. PSG may not be the greatest location for him to thrive. He won the World Cup with France but not the UCL Cup. Thats a large gap for a player his caliber. According to my research, he may join Real Madrid. Such an action could be crucial. Spanish giants provide a rich history and top titles. For his reputation, I hope he chooses well.

[borovichok]

Kylian Mbappe's future worries me. He's gifted. His incredible ball control and quickness set him apart from other footballers his age. PSG may not be the greatest location for him to thrive. He won the World Cup with France but not the UCL Cup. Thats a large gap for a player his caliber. According to my research, he may join Real Madrid. Such an action could be crucial. Spanish giants provide a rich history and top titles. For his reputation, I hope he chooses well.

Kylian Mbappe is wasting solid years with Les Parisiens because he's yet to achieved significant titles with the club, always settling for lesser outcomes which no longer fits the standards of the Frenchman. He has growned to become one of the big names in the France national team and also in Ligue One, he's important under the managerial role of every manager, why? Because he's the main player in the team that's capable of pulling big threat to their oppositions consecutively. It's high time he triggers move to one of the big clubs that would cherished his presence and valued him.

[bitgolden]

A bit sad to see Lyon current condition because they have to fight to avoiding relegation zone and unfortunately until now Grosso still cannot able to find his best strategy for this team and it makes Lyon still unable to get the winning results and actually their upcoming opponent is not really hard because Clermont condition also similar just like Lyon but i think Clermont also is the team who cannot easily to beat because from 2 latest matches Clermont has showing good progress and the latest is they can able to stole point from PSG

According to Lyon recent performance i can see they still unable to managed their consistency and last match against Lorient is the latest prove that Lyon almost be win the match but they cannot managed their performance in the second half and it makes Lyon have to playing draw with Lorient and Grosso should be evaluate this result for upcoming match and if Lyon can able to improved their performance then beat Clermont is not hard for them

I do not know what exactly happened with that team. I am not really following the news of it and if something changed then I am not sure about it, they were the PSG of ligue 1 before PSG got sold, they won so many times in a row, and after PSG became who the yare, I expected Lyon to be at least second, not this bad. Nowadays they are trying to just not get relegated and that's sad to see, I have no idea what happened.

I think it's quite good and important but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with something that would be different in the end. Hopefully we are going to end up with something that would be a bit different and difficult to handle because it is going to be something that we could care about if we like the team.

[Furious 7]

Kylian Mbappe's future worries me. He's gifted. His incredible ball control and quickness set him apart from other footballers his age. PSG may not be the greatest location for him to thrive. He won the World Cup with France but not the UCL Cup. Thats a large gap for a player his caliber. According to my research, he may join Real Madrid. Such an action could be crucial. Spanish giants provide a rich history and top titles. For his reputation, I hope he chooses well.

I think by looking at the current situation with Mbappe renewing the contract but with some rumors saying that he will leave next season because this is part of their 1-season contract deal this actually indicates that Mbappe will leave regardless of anything he will not stay at PSG.
He has good potential for his development especially with his current young age so he has a lot of hope to develop and indeed this will not be able to get in Ligue 1 even if he is at PSG.
There must be a bigger competition than Ligue 1 to make him develop more because even though Ligue 1 is one of the best competitions in Europe but its prestige is still less than La Liga or EPL so indeed Mbappe will not be able to develop further.
Talking about Madrid, the option is still there, it's just that we are now only speculating because for the fact that it happens or not it will only be seen next season whether Madrid will prepare again in the hunt for Mbappe or not because last season Madrid was actually quite passive and just waited it.

[QueenVera]

I do not know what exactly happened with that team. I am not really following the news of it and if something changed then I am not sure about it, they were the PSG of ligue 1 before PSG got sold, they won so many times in a row, and after PSG became who the yare, I expected Lyon to be at least second, not this bad. Nowadays they are trying to just not get relegated and that's sad to see, I have no idea what happened.

I think it's quite good and important but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with something that would be different in the end. Hopefully we are going to end up with something that would be a bit different and difficult to handle because it is going to be something that we could care about if we like the team.

It's so suprising how lyon that used to be one of the best performing team in the Ligue one to one of the weakest teams currently and are even in the relegation zone,  if care is not taken they might even be relegated cause they've only managed to get 3 points out of 8 games with any win, how have the mighty fallen,  well I'm not very sure what's the reason for their poor performance but I feel it might be either lack of proper investment on good players or maybe the coach is incompetent in handling the club.
 
 If they don't act fast to tackle the situation before it gets out of hand then I don't think they'll escape relegation this season and it would be very bad to watch a team that's supposed to be in the top 4 currently being relegated, the board have to strategise on improving the team by carrying out investigations concerning their current poor performance.

[Weawant]

Kylian Mbappe's future worries me. He's gifted. His incredible ball control and quickness set him apart from other footballers his age. PSG may not be the greatest location for him to thrive. He won the World Cup with France but not the UCL Cup. Thats a large gap for a player his caliber. According to my research, he may join Real Madrid. Such an action could be crucial. Spanish giants provide a rich history and top titles. For his reputation, I hope he chooses well.

Kylian Mbappe is wasting solid years with Les Parisiens because he's yet to achieved significant titles with the club, always settling for lesser outcomes which no longer fits the standards of the Frenchman. He has growned to become one of the big names in the France national team and also in Ligue One, he's important under the managerial role of every manager, why? Because he's the main player in the team that's capable of pulling big threat to their oppositions consecutively. It's high time he triggers move to one of the big clubs that would cherished his presence and valued him.

I think this will be his last season at les parisiens, following with the recent happenings where he refused to renew or extend his contract with the team, and there have been speculations about bigger teams in Europe indicating interest in him, one of which is Real Madrid who is willing to pay better wage as compared to that which he currently gets.

Mbappe would see better opportunities to win trophies and better his career outside PSG, his presence in Madrid will be more impactful than it is now at PSG, he is a young talented player who shouldn't continually bee in a place that keeps hiding his talent and make him not shine enough to get to the peak of his care, he has made name for him self already in the whole of the french league, trying elsewhere to shine wouldn't be a bad idea at all, I'm strongly in support of the idea he leaves the Ligue 1.

[Falconer]

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Kylian Mbappe is wasting solid years with Les Parisiens because he's yet to achieved significant titles with the club, always settling for lesser outcomes which no longer fits the standards of the Frenchman. He has growned to become one of the big names in the France national team and also in Ligue One, he's important under the managerial role of every manager, why? Because he's the main player in the team that's capable of pulling big threat to their oppositions consecutively. It's high time he triggers move to one of the big clubs that would cherished his presence and valued him.

I hope this is Kylian Mbappe's last season with PSG and of course I would be happy to welcome him to Real Madrid next season. Several other teams may make an offer even though PSG is very confident in keeping Mbappe in their squad, but this time it is difficult to prevent Mbappe from leaving.

Real Madrid is ready to accommodate Kylian Mbappe next season on a free transfer, which is quite impressive. Mbappe could be the best player in the world with Real Madrid, but this will be very difficult to achieve with PSG who lack many things in European competitions. It's time to expect Mbappe to move away from his comfort zone in France, so that will happen soon I think.

[rahmad2nd]

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Kylian Mbappe is wasting solid years with Les Parisiens because he's yet to achieved significant titles with the club, always settling for lesser outcomes which no longer fits the standards of the Frenchman. He has growned to become one of the big names in the France national team and also in Ligue One, he's important under the managerial role of every manager, why? Because he's the main player in the team that's capable of pulling big threat to their oppositions consecutively. It's high time he triggers move to one of the big clubs that would cherished his presence and valued him.

It is very likely that the PSG star will leave in the next summer window, yep, according to the rumors spread so far. Who knows how it will work out, but the intention to move clubs has become a unanimous decision for him, now the problem is whether Mbappe is willing to negotiate with the club management so that he wants to renew his contract. with the scenario that Mbappe can still move clubs next summer, and PSG will at least get a little money to let him go. because after all, PSG is currently being targeted regarding FFP which could happen to them. It could be that, if an agreement is reached, the price for Mbappe's release will not be as high as before. and maybe, Madrid will actually bring him in next season. and it seems, this scenario is more ideal.

Moreover, if we refer to Madrid, who only borrowed Joselu for one season. However, it does not rule out the possibility of Mbappe terminating his contract as a free agent. Yep, everything is not ruled out. for sure, we will find out later.
but for now, I believe the focus is on the team and playing as well as possible. under Enrique's control, there doesn't seem to be as much unpleasant gossip regarding them unlike when they were still under Galtier's coaching. This week, PSG will play a match against Strasbourg. Full points is what they are targeting, in order to become top of the standings, even if only temporarily, Even then, if Nice and Monaco also win their matches. thus, PSG will return to third place. but if it is the other way around, they can maintain being at the top of the standings.

[QueenVera]

It is very likely that the PSG star will leave in the next summer window, yep, according to the rumors spread so far. Who knows how it will work out, but the intention to move clubs has become a unanimous decision for him, now the problem is whether Mbappe is willing to negotiate with the club management so that he wants to renew his contract. with the scenario that Mbappe can still move clubs next summer, and PSG will at least get a little money to let him go. because after all, PSG is currently being targeted regarding FFP which could happen to them. It could be that, if an agreement is reached, the price for Mbappe's release will not be as high as before. and maybe, Madrid will actually bring him in next season. and it seems, this scenario is more ideal.

Moreover, if we refer to Madrid, who only borrowed Joselu for one season. However, it does not rule out the possibility of Mbappe terminating his contract as a free agent. Yep, everything is not ruled out. for sure, we will find out later.
but for now, I believe the focus is on the team and playing as well as possible. under Enrique's control, there doesn't seem to be as much unpleasant gossip regarding them unlike when they were still under Galtier's coaching. This week, PSG will play a match against Strasbourg. Full points is what they are targeting, in order to become top of the standings, even if only temporarily, Even then, if Nice and Monaco also win their matches. thus, PSG will return to third place. but if it is the other way around, they can maintain being at the top of the standings.

It would take a miracle for Mbappé to remain at PSG next season, they managed to try convincing him to sign an extension till next summer but I doubt if he'll accept another contract extension no matter the offer on ground and I agree with your opinion cause he might probably leave as a free agent or even terminate his contract with the team, cause Mbappé has a strong desire to win the Ballon D'or and Champions League and he knows it would be very difficult to achieve that in PSG, moving out is the only option he has to achieve those.

 Well Realmadrid is the primary club that Mbappé might move to next season and there's a very big possibility that he might move their next summer cause he's already had a secret negotiation with them this summer before PSG increased his release clause but However getting him in the January transfer won't be very hard cause his release clause would drop and would be okay for them to afford him, however they could probably wait for the season to end and get him on a free transfer next summer.

 

[Nheer]

Kylian Mbappe's future worries me. He's gifted. His incredible ball control and quickness set him apart from other footballers his age. PSG may not be the greatest location for him to thrive. He won the World Cup with France but not the UCL Cup. Thats a large gap for a player his caliber. According to my research, he may join Real Madrid. Such an action could be crucial. Spanish giants provide a rich history and top titles. For his reputation, I hope he chooses well.

Kylian Mbappe is wasting solid years with Les Parisiens because he's yet to achieved significant titles with the club, always settling for lesser outcomes which no longer fits the standards of the Frenchman. He has growned to become one of the big names in the France national team and also in Ligue One, he's important under the managerial role of every manager, why? Because he's the main player in the team that's capable of pulling big threat to their oppositions consecutively. It's high time he triggers move to one of the big clubs that would cherished his presence and valued him.

I have known this for a while and it pains me that till date he is still in the club even though he have accomplished nothing serious and even Neymar and Messi who joined him have now left the club for greener pasture. It is more like he is just wasting his talents in the French league, PSG cannot really win him major trophies and even with the fact that he is trying to carry the club all by himself other players fail to do their works properly, the defenders cannot even protect their goal even after Mbappe had successfully scored. With all the goals he scores if it should have been in another team it might have won them the champions league. Benzema only scored few goals compared to Mbappe and Real Madrid was a dangerous team to face because benzema was a big threat some one who is not as dangerous as Mbappe so just imagine Mbappe in Madrid they would be unstoppable.

Mbappe does the same thing at both club side and country side so he would still do the same when he joins Real Madrid next summer.

[shogun47]

Kylian Mbappe's future worries me. He's gifted. His incredible ball control and quickness set him apart from other footballers his age. PSG may not be the greatest location for him to thrive. He won the World Cup with France but not the UCL Cup. Thats a large gap for a player his caliber. According to my research, he may join Real Madrid. Such an action could be crucial. Spanish giants provide a rich history and top titles. For his reputation, I hope he chooses well.

Kylian Mbappe is wasting solid years with Les Parisiens because he's yet to achieved significant titles with the club, always settling for lesser outcomes which no longer fits the standards of the Frenchman. He has growned to become one of the big names in the France national team and also in Ligue One, he's important under the managerial role of every manager, why? Because he's the main player in the team that's capable of pulling big threat to their oppositions consecutively. It's high time he triggers move to one of the big clubs that would cherished his presence and valued him.

I have known this for a while and it pains me that till date he is still in the club even though he have accomplished nothing serious and even Neymar and Messi who joined him have now left the club for greener pasture. It is more like he is just wasting his talents in the French league, PSG cannot really win him major trophies and even with the fact that he is trying to carry the club all by himself other players fail to do their works properly, the defenders cannot even protect their goal even after Mbappe had successfully scored. With all the goals he scores if it should have been in another team it might have won them the champions league. Benzema only scored few goals compared to Mbappe and Real Madrid was a dangerous team to face because benzema was a big threat some one who is not as dangerous as Mbappe so just imagine Mbappe in Madrid they would be unstoppable.

Mbappe does the same thing at both club side and country side so he would still do the same when he joins Real Madrid next summer.

Mbappe has been one of the deadliest strikers for the last two World Cups and he won one of them and finished the one in Qatar as vice world champion. I think calling that nothing serious is wrong.

I absolutely agree that he wasting golden years of his career with PSG because Ligue 1 is not where a player of his level is supposed to play. It was different for Messi because he had his success already and some circumstances led him to play for PSG. But it is not like Mbappe should be blamed for not winning the Champions League. He has proven that he can deliver on the highest levels with 12 goals in two World Cups. I can only hope that he will soon make a decision to leave PSG and finally play in a better league, but here is really only the Premier League that would get the best out of him and maybe La Liga if Barcelona gets back to strength and perhaps Atletico Madrid as well.