Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024

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I think the minimum acceptable result that is expected from a United coach is top 4, right? Here's how bookmakers see the teams' chances:
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So far, I see that United has dropped out of the list of elite clubs and will only fight with the underdogs, and even in that group it is not a favorite. It is unlikely that the appointment of another coach could change this picture much, but the fact remains: for United, getting into the top 4 is the end of dreams, their chances of winning the title are estimated at 1 in 26.

Man United will be in the top 4 of the PL? I hope so but somehow there's no faith in Erik Ten Hag.
Ten Hag can still improve the team and with some players who need to be solid again under their tutelage, otherwise they will be mid-table.

The bookmakers odds are pretty reasonable and Man United are 6th, but those odds could change at any time if Man United's performance improves, but I don't think it will happen in the current season.

[Bobrox]

Everything requires a process, don't be too quick to say that Ten Hag has failed with Manchester United.
Last season, Manchester United experienced a lot of problems, especially injuries that befell many of their main players, so Ten Hag had quite a hard time lifting this team's performance, so I think last season's downturn cannot be used as a reference because they had a lot of problems.
And Manchester United's success in winning the FA Cup is also worthy of appreciation.

Next season should be the final proving ground for Ten Hag, if he fails then he will have to be fired, but personally I am quite sure that Ten Hag will be able to make positive changes to Manchester United's performance if they don't have the same problems as last season.

Everything need process and get more patience, but Erik ten Hag have been two season with Manchester United and he still get failure bring the United keep in the top fourth race standings after 8th place finish position this season.
In modern era, Manchester United spending much money for signing players I don't think taking process for longer time to be the winner of Premier League and keep dominance at the top fourth standings.
But Erik ten Hag won FA Cup in this season and close his failure with Manchester United achieved finish outside of Europe League spot standings position, after management of United announced will extend Erik ten Hag contract I think he must improve team performance if want get more extend become Manchester United manager.

[Queentoshi]

Therefore, I am skeptical about Slott at Liverpool and admit that they will not have an easy season. On the other hand, choosing a worthy coach for such a team is not an easy task and most likely Klopp took part in choosing a new coach, perhaps this will play an important role.

Even if the present Liverpool coach was handpicked by the former Liverpool coach as a successor it still does not guarantee that he will be successful in the Premier League because he still has to settle into the premier league where every team is aiming to set a record. Erik Ten Hag who will be staying for his third season in the club has a better chance of being successful than the new Liverpool coach. It is not always easy for a new coach to do well immediately for the club that has hired his services especially in the Premier League, this must be something that the Manchester United executives must have considered also before deciding to let the manager they know already keep his job.

[Sexylizzy2813]

There's something you don't seem to understand, this is the game of football, anything can happen. And we saying so is suppose to happen that way but it didn't because we all including yourself say things base on how we're seeing it. When a coach like Erik who has been making mouth of winning trophies for the club start messing up do you think he shouldn't be sacked? When he came to the club the expectation was high and everything seems to be promising but later on things started working against him and you'd agree with me that this man has lost control in the locker room of UTD. No one is being biase here is just how it is, I don't know about others but the Red Devils don't have anything to offer next season.
Manchester United would give out those two trophies just to be in the finals of the champions league, those trophies don't mean anything compared to the UCL trophy and EPL title, so you shouldn't be too comfortable with that, face the fact Manchester United are never going to improve until the issues they are battling with indoor are settled.
The body language of the players don't really want Erik ten Heg and you know it so let's call a spade a spade, I'll still say it that the relationship between Erik ten Heg and the players ain't healthy, take a good look at how Pep, Arteta and former Liverpool coach Klopp relate with their players, the joy in the locker room of those managers will always make the players to play for the manager every week, but that's not how it is for ten Heg.

Lmfao, and even if I want to learn, even if I want to understand, not from you, because I wonder how you can say this is football anything can happen and you still go on to say Erik Ten Hag and Manchester United will not improve next season? You obviously lack football knowledge and just trying to fit in. Your context is enough evidence you didn't or never played football so you will never understood, and you must be one of those that watch football with lots of hate and bias because you hate and dislike a club.

Setbacks are part of the coaching job and also, most of these Manchester United players dis not do well for the coach. He had Injured players especially from the back which is one of the best ways he has build the Manchester United side since he took over. Football has evolved not everyone will understand this.

Jose Mourinho and Antonio Conte managed Tottenham Hotspur but the management failed to upgrade the squad how do you expect all of those high expectations to go on? T's same with Manchester United as they need improvements.

And how can you say two trophies are not important? Then you don't know anything about the history of Manchester United. Even before Erik Ten Hag, how many finals has Manchester United found themselves? Lol. Please do better.

You don't know that because you don't have a direct contact in the dressing room. Are you siblings with Marcus Rashford? Or Harry Maguire? Because they seem like people to leak such informations out lol. Wait and See and in between, listen to commentary and learn with your ears and eyes.

It really tells the kind of football lover you are, a kind who thinks he knows all but you know nothing about how things are in football, sorry I can't teach you a thing or two about football both on and off the pitch because it would be a shame to those who don't know anything about football (such as yourself), it would be pointless thinking of teaching you because it won't get in your head. Manchester United will never improve as long as your manager Erik ten Heg is still push hard to get an apology from a player that he sent out of the first team, never will he (Sancho) train with the senior team and also sent him on loan, that shouldn't be part of what he should have requested for when was given the 2 years contract, that's in the past and ten Heg shouldn't have brought it up. Is that the man who'll improve the team? Someone who's living in the past. Sometimes I wonder how you analyze football and you come here to make people believe you know anything about football. As a Manchester United fan you're suppose to say things the way they are, at this point there won't be any communication between Erik ten Heg if he continues with this selfish plan of his, I feel he's only thinking of himself than what will improve the club.
About the trophy, let's say Manchester United always win the domestic competitions but always finish outside the top 4, no Champions League trophy no EPL title, would you still be wasting your time saying that the Red Devils are doing well? Guy open your eyes and start accepting the reality about Manchester United your beloved club, very soon you'll see many of UTD fans will lose that patience they have for the club when they're not showing any sign of moving forward.
If you're watching football starting from next season just sit close to someone who knows how what he's watching because if you watch it alone you won't understand what you're watching. The case of information in the locker room, is something they don't let the public know except one of the players comes out to air out the whole thing, like the case of Ronaldo who told the world how poor the training equipments are and some other things. Don't use because you're a fan to run away from the truth, UTD will even be worse than last campaign with the mindset of Erik ten Heg. The season has not started yet but he has already started dropping some negative energy in the team.

[Agbamoni]

Liverpool's new coach Arne Slott is not as experienced as Klopp. He has never been the coach of a big club like Liverpool before. He was previously the coach of Feyenoord. Arne Slot's performance with Feyenoord was good enough. But managing a big club like Liverpool is more challenging.

The new coach will have to build the squad according to his choice of players. Next season we will see several changes in Liverpool's squad. Liverpool's overall performance this season has not been strong. Liverpool were short of talented players on the bench. So when a player suffered an injury, Klopp did not have a suitable replacement. This is why we have seen Liverpool's erratic and unstable performances. Arne Slot should rebuild Liverpool's entire squad.

You don't judge a coach by making assumptions on your ow end. Arne Slott has been good in performance in other clubs he has managed why do you think he won't be good in managing Liverpool. Every best coach started from the small team and that is what make me believe that this new coach will do something. Most times it's not about the coaching a big club, there was a hype when coach Maurino came to one big club, and he could not win any trophy and was still sacked.

If Liverpool has agreed to welcome Arne Slott as their new coach, then we should accept it with them, and not try to predict their fate without seeing him in action when the league starts.

[bitcampaign]

Everything requires a process, don't be too quick to say that Ten Hag has failed with Manchester United.
Last season, Manchester United experienced a lot of problems, especially injuries that befell many of their main players, so Ten Hag had quite a hard time lifting this team's performance, so I think last season's downturn cannot be used as a reference because they had a lot of problems.
And Manchester United's success in winning the FA Cup is also worthy of appreciation.

Next season should be the final proving ground for Ten Hag, if he fails then he will have to be fired, but personally I am quite sure that Ten Hag will be able to make positive changes to Manchester United's performance if they don't have the same problems as last season.

Everything need process and get more patience, but Erik ten Hag have been two season with Manchester United and he still get failure bring the United keep in the top fourth race standings after 8th place finish position this season.
In modern era, Manchester United spending much money for signing players I don't think taking process for longer time to be the winner of Premier League and keep dominance at the top fourth standings.
But Erik ten Hag won FA Cup in this season and close his failure with Manchester United achieved finish outside of Europe League spot standings position, after management of United announced will extend Erik ten Hag contract I think he must improve team performance if want get more extend become Manchester United manager.

Erik Ten Hag's mistake was that he was still keeping the current players and that would never change anything regarding the Red Devils' status in the Premier League. He had to have the courage to overhaul the existing squad even though his tenure had lasted two years and only produced the FA Cup. Even though it wasn't enough to bring the Red Devils to play in the Chamiones League for two seasons, they always didn't participate, of course this is the worst achievement ever during their coaching, if they continue to keep the current players, the big possibility is that the Red Devils will continue to get bad results. like this season..

[rendravolt]

The Brazilian club Palmeiras is indeed a producer of talented young players and previously we would have known that their players like Endrick joined Real Madrid and Estevao chose to join Chelsea. This makes West Ham not want to be left behind and they have just announced the signing of a new player from Palmeiras, namely Luis Guilherme.

He is still very young at 18 years old and plays as a midfielder and this is West Ham's first signing under the tutelage of their new coach Julen Lopetegui. West Ham provided their own atmosphere in the EPL last season, but this season they experienced a deadlock and had to fire David Moyes. Now they seem to be focusing on young players and of course with an experienced coach like Julen Lopetegui it is hoped that the results will be optimal. Well, good luck on your new journey Luis Guilherme.

[Egii Nna]

Erik Ten Hag in Manchester United, he's consider to deliver top games. Liverpool new coach, Arne Slot will do better than Jurgen Klopp? Let's hope for the best outcome.

As we know for everyone, especially fans of football, Erik Ten Hag has a great reputation in the history of football and has already shown his great effort in developing young players. The most important part of this is that Manchester United will enjoy playing attacking games more, so I know Manchester United fans will be happy and hope for great success in the upcoming season of the Premier League. 
 
For Liverpool, I don’t think they have appointed Arne Slot as their new coach, and we all know that so far Juergen Klopp has been a good coach of them, and he has also tried his endless effort on the team, but as said in a popular proverb, all things come to an end, and I am thinking that is why many are thinking of Arne Slot as their new coach, but if Liverpool officially announces Arne Slot as their new manager, I am sure they will actually enjoy it. because he might bring some new ideas to the team or add more to what they already have and perform better in the next season. 

[tusandii]

The Brazilian club Palmeiras is indeed a producer of talented young players and previously we would have known that their players like Endrick joined Real Madrid and Estevao chose to join Chelsea. This makes West Ham not want to be left behind and they have just announced the signing of a new player from Palmeiras, namely Luis Guilherme.

He is still very young at 18 years old and plays as a midfielder and this is West Ham's first signing under the tutelage of their new coach Julen Lopetegui. West Ham provided their own atmosphere in the EPL last season, but this season they experienced a deadlock and had to fire David Moyes. Now they seem to be focusing on young players and of course with an experienced coach like Julen Lopetegui it is hoped that the results will be optimal. Well, good luck on your new journey Luis Guilherme.

It looks like West Ham got a new breakthrough from Julen Lopetegui who currently officially serves as the club's coach and I am sure that West Ham will experience a lot of improvements because they have chosen the right coach who has so much experience and Julen Lopetegui was even the Real Madrid coach so It's not surprising that Julen Lopetegui might want to try a big change by bringing in a young player like Luis Guilherme to develop new talent and make it a big investment in the future.
Luis Guilherme's talent is currently not very visible, but as a skilled coach like Julen Lopetegui, he definitely knows the hidden talent in Luis Guilherme which will later be developed by the new coach.

Bringing in young players to compete in the PL is the right choice and I am sure that if young players can play with the right club they will immediately improve their skill performance as Luis Guilherme will later experience after joining West Ham there will definitely be a big improvement that occurs.
It is time for West Ham to rise to compete with other big clubs and this is what the fans really want, there are clearly visible changes made by West Ham.

[Palakka]

The Brazilian club Palmeiras is indeed a producer of talented young players and previously we would have known that their players like Endrick joined Real Madrid and Estevao chose to join Chelsea. This makes West Ham not want to be left behind and they have just announced the signing of a new player from Palmeiras, namely Luis Guilherme.

He is still very young at 18 years old and plays as a midfielder and this is West Ham's first signing under the tutelage of their new coach Julen Lopetegui. West Ham provided their own atmosphere in the EPL last season, but this season they experienced a deadlock and had to fire David Moyes. Now they seem to be focusing on young players and of course with an experienced coach like Julen Lopetegui it is hoped that the results will be optimal. Well, good luck on your new journey Luis Guilherme.

This season the talent of young talent from palmeiras is a very strong attraction for European teams to be recruited, West Ham is of course a team that has begun to prepare its squad next season well, after Westham performance this season which is quite bad of course West Ham is starting to try to improve its squad well enough to be able to compete next season,   West Ham move to sign Luis Guilherme, who is a midfielder and is still 18 years old, certainly shows their ambition to build a team that relies on young talent, so I think it seems that Julen Lopetegui is starting to try to build a new foundation to make them able to compete next season.

The dismissal of Moyes is of course one of the steps that must be taken by the West Ham squad, poor performance and the absence of improvement that occurs in every game is the reason Moyes was fired, although indeed last season Moyes was able to bring West Ham for to play in the Europa League but it seems that Westham patience with Moyes has reached the limit so they fired Moyes before the season is over.

[Jatiluhung]

Liverpool's new coach Arne Slott is not as experienced as Klopp. He has never been the coach of a big club like Liverpool before. He was previously the coach of Feyenoord. Arne Slot's performance with Feyenoord was good enough. But managing a big club like Liverpool is more challenging.

The new coach will have to build the squad according to his choice of players. Next season we will see several changes in Liverpool's squad. Liverpool's overall performance this season has not been strong. Liverpool were short of talented players on the bench. So when a player suffered an injury, Klopp did not have a suitable replacement. This is why we have seen Liverpool's erratic and unstable performances. Arne Slot should rebuild Liverpool's entire squad.

Maybe it's not good, but I will try to compare it with the arrival of ten Hag at Manchester United, when he had very great authority in the Eredivisie, but he had to realize that in the Premier League everything happens differently. Therefore, I am skeptical about Slott at Liverpool and admit that they will not have an easy season. On the other hand, choosing a worthy coach for such a team is not an easy task and most likely Klopp took part in choosing a new coach, perhaps this will play an important role.

Arne slot really lacks experience. But it seems that Liverpool club management brought in Arne Slot based on many considerations and a lot of research. And Kloop also seems to have played a role in this. So Kloop also seems to trust Arne Slot. And there is a quite interesting message from Kloop towards Arne Slot. It is as if Kloop deliberately made Liverpool experience the end of this season without making any major achievements and even giving the impression of experiencing a setback. This also seems to make it easier for new coaches not to be stressed when they come to Liverpool. Because coaching a team that achieves good results at the end of the season can be a big pressure. Because fans will expect the same good results next season. But Liverpool ended the season not bad but not very well either. Well that's a medium result. But it seems that this will also make Arne Slot more confident in becoming a coach there. Hopefully he doesn't end up as a failed coach. Hopefully he can immediately produce good results. Just like Xabi Alonso who also immediately achieved good results at Leverkusen or just like Míchel who immediately succeeded in coaching Girona in Laliga. But of course Liverpool is a much bigger club. Maybe Arne Slot will also feel the same pressure as Ten Hag felt. But hopefully Arne Slot can adapt well to everything at the club. Because the most important factor is a good impression from the start by being able to establish a good relationship with the players.

[ndutndut]

Therefore, I am skeptical about Slott at Liverpool and admit that they will not have an easy season. On the other hand, choosing a worthy coach for such a team is not an easy task and most likely Klopp took part in choosing a new coach, perhaps this will play an important role.

Even if the present Liverpool coach was handpicked by the former Liverpool coach as a successor it still does not guarantee that he will be successful in the Premier League because he still has to settle into the premier league where every team is aiming to set a record. Erik Ten Hag who will be staying for his third season in the club has a better chance of being successful than the new Liverpool coach. It is not always easy for a new coach to do well immediately for the club that has hired his services especially in the Premier League, this must be something that the Manchester United executives must have considered also before deciding to let the manager they know already keep his job.

Correct. It is quite surprising that Liverpool's choice to bring in Klopp's successor from the Netherlands, if you look at the Dutch coach's lack of success in the EPL. Just mention Koeman, van Gaal, and most recently Erik ten Hag. Apart from that, seeing a new coach immediately perform well with his new team in the EPL is difficult. So Liverpool fans, don't have too high expectations, because when Pep Guardiola came to Man City in the first season, he didn't immediately become as strong as he is now. Adapting to the EPL league is very difficult, because this league is currently the most competitive league of all existing leagues.

But even so, we still have to be optimistic about coach Slot. Maybe he can make Liverpool players have a winning mentality because a winning mentality is what can bring the club to become champions. If all the players have a winning mentality and more than that, the placement of players must pay attention to the depth of the existing Squad, then it is not impossible that Slot can provide the best for Liverpool next season.

[Farma]

Erik Ten Hag's mistake was that he was still keeping the current players and that would never change anything regarding the Red Devils' status in the Premier League. He had to have the courage to overhaul the existing squad even though his tenure had lasted two years and only produced the FA Cup. Even though it wasn't enough to bring the Red Devils to play in the Chamiones League for two seasons, they always didn't participate, of course this is the worst achievement ever during their coaching, if they continue to keep the current players, the big possibility is that the Red Devils will continue to get bad results. like this season..

Last season Erik Ten Hag made many changes to the Manchester United squad, but many of his new recruits suffered injuries, making it quite difficult for Erik Ten Hag to build a team that could develop.
Erik Ten Hag has made a lot of efforts to change the team even though we can see that it hasn't been successful, but I believe in the process carried out by Erik Ten Hag with the quality he has and regardless of the player material he maintains in the squad, I think every coach each has their own point of view in selecting players.

[RaltcoinsB]

Liverpool's new coach Arne Slott is not as experienced as Klopp. He has never been the coach of a big club like Liverpool before. He was previously the coach of Feyenoord. Arne Slot's performance with Feyenoord was good enough. But managing a big club like Liverpool is more challenging.

The new coach will have to build the squad according to his choice of players. Next season we will see several changes in Liverpool's squad. Liverpool's overall performance this season has not been strong. Liverpool were short of talented players on the bench. So when a player suffered an injury, Klopp did not have a suitable replacement. This is why we have seen Liverpool's erratic and unstable performances. Arne Slot should rebuild Liverpool's entire squad.

Maybe it's not good, but I will try to compare it with the arrival of ten Hag at Manchester United, when he had very great authority in the Eredivisie, but he had to realize that in the Premier League everything happens differently. Therefore, I am skeptical about Slott at Liverpool and admit that they will not have an easy season. On the other hand, choosing a worthy coach for such a team is not an easy task and most likely Klopp took part in choosing a new coach, perhaps this will play an important role.

The difficulty of the Premier League is much more difficult than the Eredivisie or any other league. The teams you compete with are the best teams in Europe. That's why Ten Hag, who was successful in the Eredivisie, could not achieve sufficient success here. It was much easier to be successful in the Netherlands. Now the real competition is in the Premier league. Therefore, it will be a difficult process for the new Liverpool coach who will experience this competition.

[$anounimus$]

Liverpool's new coach Arne Slott is not as experienced as Klopp. He has never been the coach of a big club like Liverpool before. He was previously the coach of Feyenoord. Arne Slot's performance with Feyenoord was good enough. But managing a big club like Liverpool is more challenging.

The new coach will have to build the squad according to his choice of players. Next season we will see several changes in Liverpool's squad. Liverpool's overall performance this season has not been strong. Liverpool were short of talented players on the bench. So when a player suffered an injury, Klopp did not have a suitable replacement. This is why we have seen Liverpool's erratic and unstable performances. Arne Slot should rebuild Liverpool's entire squad.

You don't judge a coach by making assumptions on your ow end. Arne Slott has been good in performance in other clubs he has managed why do you think he won't be good in managing Liverpool. Every best coach started from the small team and that is what make me believe that this new coach will do something. Most times it's not about the coaching a big club, there was a hype when coach Maurino came to one big club, and he could not win any trophy and was still sacked.

If Liverpool has agreed to welcome Arne Slott as their new coach, then we should accept it with them, and not try to predict their fate without seeing him in action when the league starts.

Yes, it would be unfair to judge Slot so quickly because we have never seen Liverpool's style of play under his control. I really respect Liverpool's decision and they have certainly assessed Slot's character and met the criteria. It must be admitted that competition in the Premier League is quite tight and of course Slot must be able to overcome this challenge well.

[Jatiluhung]

Erik Ten Hag's mistake was that he was still keeping the current players and that would never change anything regarding the Red Devils' status in the Premier League. He had to have the courage to overhaul the existing squad even though his tenure had lasted two years and only produced the FA Cup. Even though it wasn't enough to bring the Red Devils to play in the Chamiones League for two seasons, they always didn't participate, of course this is the worst achievement ever during their coaching, if they continue to keep the current players, the big possibility is that the Red Devils will continue to get bad results. like this season..

Last season Erik Ten Hag made many changes to the Manchester United squad, but many of his new recruits suffered injuries, making it quite difficult for Erik Ten Hag to build a team that could develop.
Erik Ten Hag has made a lot of efforts to change the team even though we can see that it hasn't been successful, but I believe in the process carried out by Erik Ten Hag with the quality he has and regardless of the player material he maintains in the squad, I think every coach each has their own point of view in selecting players.

Ten Hag did make a lot of changes and was actually quite good at selecting every player he brought in. It's just that Ten Hag's weakness is in building relationships between players. He's not very good at it. but in terms of tactics on the field and other things, he is actually really good at that. But we can see that the main problem is that Man United players always make a lot of unnecessary mistakes when playing. Even repeated mistakes are often made in the back line and midfield. This is the main point that also makes Man United always fail to get good results. If Ten Hag is able to enable the players to play without making many fatal mistakes then Man United will actually get good results since last season.

[piebeyb]

But Erik ten Hag won FA Cup in this season and close his failure with Manchester United achieved finish outside of Europe League spot standings position, after management of United announced will extend Erik ten Hag contract I think he must improve team performance if want get more extend become Manchester United manager.

I don't know what makes him continue to be retained, is it because he has managed to win the FA Cup this season and get Manchester United through to European competitions, I think that's not good enough because in the EPL Manchester United didn't get good results, in fact they experienced more. lots of defeats from the previous season, that means there is a decline in their game statistics, Ten hag can't choose the players he recruits sometimes they are always useless also in the main squad team, the game still looks boring.

It is certain that management will retain him because of course Ten Hag must agree on the achievements they want next season. The competition is very tight. If Ten Hag still retains the current players, it will certainly be difficult to compete next season. Manchester United needs players who are quite productive in the line. In order to be able to score lots of goals for this team, Ten Hag must be able to recruit and find the best players for this team next season, hopefully he won't disappoint everyone because he has been given trust again in this team.

[hahay]

Maybe it's not good, but I will try to compare it with the arrival of ten Hag at Manchester United, when he had very great authority in the Eredivisie, but he had to realize that in the Premier League everything happens differently. Therefore, I am skeptical about Slott at Liverpool and admit that they will not have an easy season. On the other hand, choosing a worthy coach for such a team is not an easy task and most likely Klopp took part in choosing a new coach, perhaps this will play an important role.

Liverpool is elite team and they've come to accomplish important goals in the English Premier League. Perhaps the club will sort out means to come out winning because it's never consider easy for them.

Erik Ten Hag in Manchester United, he's consider to deliver top games. Liverpool new coach, Arne Slot will do better than Jurgen Klopp? Let's hope for the best outcome.

Basically, at this moment it becomes a trend about some coaches who are associated with Pep Guardoila or have worked with Pep Guardiola in the past either as assistant coaches and or also as players. Because, about the success of Arteta who also has experience working with Pep Guardiola and then, about Xabi Alonso who also has experience when he was a player at Bayern Munich and because at that time Pep Guardiola became Bayern Munich manager. With their success,  then this time Arne Slot who in the past had experience working with Pep Guardiola,then they might think that Arne Slot has good abilities and skills as well as the success of the big names that have been mentioned.

[Alpha Marine]

Everything requires a process, don't be too quick to say that Ten Hag has failed with Manchester United.
Last season, Manchester United experienced a lot of problems, especially injuries that befell many of their main players, so Ten Hag had quite a hard time lifting this team's performance, I think last season's downturn cannot be used as a reference because they had a lot of problems.
And Manchester United's success in winning the FA Cup is also worthy of appreciation.

I agree that managers need time, but it's not every manager that should be given time. There are things to consider when you want to give a manager more time, and one of them is the atmosphere in the dressing room.
What is the confidence level of the players? How much trust do the players have in the manager? If it was up to the players would they keep Ten Hag as manager? These things may look irrelevant, but like it or not these are the players he's going to work with and if for 2 seasons he hasn't been able to convince them and get their confidence levels up, I don't think more time will cut it.

Also, you have to look at the individual development level of the players. Have they gotten better or worse under the manager? In what way have they improved if they have. A manager is supposed to improve the players. Take a look at all the good managers of every team, the players got better under them. Klopp, Ancellotti, Pep, Mourinho. Even managers like Arterta (which I don't consider a great manager) increased the development of his players. That's the kind of manager you give time to.

Finally, you have to look at the performance of the team. They may not be winning games or trophies, but if they're performing better and improving in areas they need to, then you can give the manager time. Ten Hag doesn't check any of these boxes and if it were up to me, I wouldn't give him more time, but since Manchester United is sticking with him, only time will tell

[bangjoe]

Maybe it's not good, but I will try to compare it with the arrival of ten Hag at Manchester United, when he had very great authority in the Eredivisie, but he had to realize that in the Premier League everything happens differently. Therefore, I am skeptical about Slott at Liverpool and admit that they will not have an easy season. On the other hand, choosing a worthy coach for such a team is not an easy task and most likely Klopp took part in choosing a new coach, perhaps this will play an important role.

Liverpool is elite team and they've come to accomplish important goals in the English Premier League. Perhaps the club will sort out means to come out winning because it's never consider easy for them.

Erik Ten Hag in Manchester United, he's consider to deliver top games. Liverpool new coach, Arne Slot will do better than Jurgen Klopp? Let's hope for the best outcome.

Of course Liverpool will definitely be very serious about choosing a coach and it is also possible that Klopp did take part but we don't know that's how he looked for his replacement at Liverpool, but for Arne Slot it is not well known in the title race in the world of soccer, but maybe Liverpool have their own interest in Arne Slot in their eyes and they know better, just like kompany who later after being released from Burnley he led Bayer Munich, it may be a similar case, but for Liverpool supporters must remain optimistic for the next season that will be lived with Arne Slot whether better or not than Klopp we will see it later after the league runs again.