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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.9%)
Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 183

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October 12, 2022, 09:15:26 AM
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I think Liverpool is currently facing the same problem as Chelsea before changing coaches. because the Liverpool players are actually quite good. However, the strategy they play does not match the style of play of the players themselves. It's the same as when Chelsea were coached by Tuchel. Chelsea have good players but a game strategy that doesn't match makes Chelsea look weak. but now that graham potter is the coach of chelsea then we can see the game and chelsea's performance is very good. even Chelsea was able to beat a strong team like Milan up to two times in a row in the champions league. I believe Liverpool will be better if they can change their game strategy.
Isn't the players and coaches that Liverpool have are still the same as last season, only a few new players have entered the Liverpool squad, then where is the correlation between last season's strategy and now that is not going well.
What I saw was Liverpool losing faith while playing, Mohamed Salah and Virgil Van Dijk not in good form, plus a lot of their players were injured, at least almost eight players who couldn't play for Liverpool, so it had an impact on the results they received in every game.
What you said about team strategy and the coach is correct for Chelsea Football Club because we can see that the arrival of Graham Potter has proved that Thomas was not actually doing the right thing with Chelsea player. In his first season he had his way, won the Champions League but he did not have the Perfect Blend with the players. Graham Potter is doing it well with the players for a start. It is not the same situation with Liverpool , the coach of Liverpool has been with them even when they did not play well.
So, no strategy actually changed, it is the players that's lost form individually and it is affecting the overall performance of the club .

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October 12, 2022, 09:29:06 AM
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What you said about team strategy and the coach is correct for Chelsea Football Club because we can see that the arrival of Graham Potter has proved that Thomas was not actually doing the right thing with Chelsea player. In his first season he had his way, won the Champions League but he did not have the Perfect Blend with the players. Graham Potter is doing it well with the players for a start. It is not the same situation with Liverpool , the coach of Liverpool has been with them even when they did not play well.
So, no strategy actually changed, it is the players that's lost form individually and it is affecting the overall performance of the club .
Knowing all the skills of the players is indeed very difficult and it can be done by Graham Potter is a very good step and hopefully this will be the initial success of Graham Potter's career as a Chelsea coach who can bring Chelsea to be winners of this league, it has been seen that Chelsea have started to gain wins in their last three matches. The toughest opponents for Chelsea are Manchester City and Arsenal who will meet in November and early January 2023.

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October 12, 2022, 10:37:57 AM
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I think Liverpool is currently facing the same problem as Chelsea before changing coaches. because the Liverpool players are actually quite good. However, the strategy they play does not match the style of play of the players themselves. It's the same as when Chelsea were coached by Tuchel. Chelsea have good players but a game strategy that doesn't match makes Chelsea look weak. but now that graham potter is the coach of chelsea then we can see the game and chelsea's performance is very good. even Chelsea was able to beat a strong team like Milan up to two times in a row in the champions league. I believe Liverpool will be better if they can change their game strategy.

Jürgen Klopp has done well for Liverpool and I think it's time for the club to move on and employ the service of someone that can work with the boys to bring out the best in them before they end the season badly. The boys are now familiar with Jürgen Klopp and probably won't be taking him very serious. Players like Mo Salah knows no matter how bad they play, they'll still get a start or better playing time, knowing fully well the media/board will criticize the coach when they lose and he weren't played especially as he's now on a massive salary.

Chelsea saw the problem in the club and decided to pathway before it get ugly, Liverpool should do the same because they have been awful this season and the title is slipping away although there is still time to catch up on the race if the right decisions are taken and one of those is sacking Jürgen Klopp.

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October 12, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
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Liverpool has not been in good form this season. We have seen them struggle in most of their games this season including game played against average teams and some times they play very well like in the game against Brighton they kept scoring goals and coming from behind. I think the team isn't so bad and are showing glimpse of improvement from time to time so with time I believe they will get back to form.
Honestly this struggle stems from a lack of reinforcements. You can't be competing with Manchester City and not reinforce your squad with the right players. This struggle is all on the owners lack of wanting to spend money. This team looks tired, they just look flat. I’m not sure where the spark is going to come from. Besides, all these problems were existed seasons ago and without properly to deal with. FSG has made a big money after acquiring Liverpool but we can’t see the equal amount of investment into the squad.
The problem with Liverpool is not that they were unable to reinforce their squad. Assuming they kept their squad constant without selling anyone it would have been better but they were unable to get high class players and at the same time they sold one of their best players. That was the beginning of the problem of Liverpool, the team connection was lost and Nunes was unable to fit the role that made Liverpool spend huge amount of money to get him.

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October 12, 2022, 11:09:53 AM
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The issue of Liverpool is starting from the team, because the deficiency of their team poor performance i think that it's from the players, because if they want to perform well in this season, i think that they a midfielder and defender, at least they need to hire more players fir the team and sell the old performing players. So with that only you will see that the methods of Liverpool football style will change directly, so they performance is extremely low.
Another reason is strategy. I believe another coach in the premier league is very understood how Liverpool played, They can read the player movement on each line, this situation is the same as Chelsea before Tuchel. but, I don't say the Kloop strategy is already stale because when I look him on every match, he always improvement the player strategy, I think what can he do next is to do maximising Nunez and a bit forget about Salah.


IMO, there are a lot of issues going on together at Liverpool. ranging from player injuries to players who perform below standard, this is the main factor Liverpool play very underperform. Injuries in midfield are also a problem for them, Klopp is an extraordinary coach, who has high experience requirements. however, with Liverpool's current condition plus underperform it is difficult for any coach to magically restore his performance.

Of course, Liverpool's current condition is quite worrying, considering that they were once predicted to be one of the champions. this is one of Klopp's mistakes in the summer transfer market yesterday, they were too careful in signing players.

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October 12, 2022, 11:48:01 AM
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The thing that stands out from Liverpool's declining form is that they are no longer good at taking the ball away from opponents, and also Mane's departure has also had a major impact on Liverpool's current form from last season. Mane has a special ability to make Liverpool still achieve good results even in difficult situations.
The existence of Nunez may still be able to adapt, but that's not a reasonable reason because if a player who really has extraordinary talent will adapt quickly like Haaland.
Liverpool front line this season has greatly decreased in goal productivity where Mohamed Salah, Firmino and Nunez have not found their good performances. Liverpool previously lost to Arsenal which made them really thrown out of the title race this season. Nunez found it difficult to find his best form in almost a few games in his first season with Liverpool. kloop is a great coach he will be able to make liverpool back to the top 4 in the next match, Today liverpool will face Rangers in the 4th round of the group stage and I believe liverpool will easily win this match.

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October 12, 2022, 11:50:27 AM
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Since Sadio mane left Liverpool to another team has really changed Liverpool negatively, because it hard Salah to perform well in this season compared to last season, because the player that really understood him is Sadio mane that left the team last season.

20 goals create in 8 matches is an extraordinary achievement for Liverpool's front line, even it is included in the top 4 of the GF premier league after Man City, Arsenal and Tottenham.
So I think Liverpool's main problem is not attack or Mohamed Salah. Because we can see how weak Liverpool's defense is until the 8th week of the Premier League with 12 conceded, very much different from last season which only conceded 26 goals in 38 matches.

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October 12, 2022, 12:31:31 PM
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What you said about team strategy and the coach is correct for Chelsea Football Club because we can see that the arrival of Graham Potter has proved that Thomas was not actually doing the right thing with Chelsea player. In his first season he had his way, won the Champions League but he did not have the Perfect Blend with the players. Graham Potter is doing it well with the players for a start. It is not the same situation with Liverpool , the coach of Liverpool has been with them even when they did not play well.
So, no strategy actually changed, it is the players that's lost form individually and it is affecting the overall performance of the club .
Knowing all the skills of the players is indeed very difficult and it can be done by Graham Potter is a very good step and hopefully this will be the initial success of Graham Potter's career as a Chelsea coach who can bring Chelsea to be winners of this league, it has been seen that Chelsea have started to gain wins in their last three matches. The toughest opponents for Chelsea are Manchester City and Arsenal who will meet in November and early January 2023.
All players are feeling confidence with him. His rotation has been giving enough time for any players in chelsea to show their skill in the field. I do like how graham was managing the team but it seems too early for me to say that if graham was the best for chelsea. I just wanna know whether chelsea can at least get 1 trophy for this year or not. Im sure that chelsea will be performing so well in champion league. The performance is slowly growing at this moment.
I would not be surprised to see that if chelsea may able to get champion league trophy for this season.

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October 12, 2022, 12:43:26 PM
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As far as I can see, Rodgers is trying his best but Leicester players aren't making the same effort in defense. He criticised his team about the Bournemouth game which they lost that the players were seeming very comfortable. I don't understand how they can be this much comfortable while they are the worst team in the league now. Their squad quality is much better than many teams in the league in fact but they have literally no defense.

This problem in defense doesn't seem like it can be solved without making some transfers in January. Let's see if Rodgers will also be able to stay until then.

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October 12, 2022, 12:45:52 PM
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Liverpool front line this season has greatly decreased in goal productivity where Mohamed Salah, Firmino and Nunez have not found their good performances. Liverpool previously lost to Arsenal which made them really thrown out of the title race this season. Nunez found it difficult to find his best form in almost a few games in his first season with Liverpool. kloop is a great coach he will be able to make liverpool back to the top 4 in the next match, Today liverpool will face Rangers in the 4th round of the group stage and I believe liverpool will easily win this match.
Usually last season Mohamed Salah impressed many spectators, but his performance this season has decreased, maybe his condition is not good or maybe it is also affected by getting older so that the performance seems to be decreasing, Hopefully at the end of the season there will be a surprise from the Liverpool team.

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But indeed in this case something is difficult now because apart from his current form injuries to some of his players will obviously prevent them from reaching the top 4 and it will be very difficult for them at least until the middle of the season I think.
But with that, it is clear that Liverpool will make changes in terms of players later because if they force the current squad, even if they are still very good, they are still struggling, especially for Diaz's position, which has been left for a long time.

Yes, the team is challenged by so many injuries but I think Liverpool still has good players that should be giving them positive results. It shouldn't be an excuse for not performing because other teams like Manchester City and Chelsea have a list of injured key players. Laporte, Walker, and Phillips of City and Ziyech, Kante, and Fofana of Chelsea are all key players. Jürgen Klopp should be able to manage the functional team to get more results. Sometimes I feel that some players are made for a team and a team for the player. Sadio Mané was specially designed for Liverpool and the club was made for him.
City's problems with Liverpool are clearly different because even though there are indeed some in City players injured but they are still able to survive until today and of course with much better performances.
But for Liverpool it is difficult because indeed they are in a decline in form and with Diaz currently out for a long time it will clearly be a fatal loss considering he is one of the players who are the focus of the club, especially in terms of attack.
Currently with a Liverpool squad that can be said to be complete, it is quite difficult especially now with their squad that has many vacancies.

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October 12, 2022, 01:44:34 PM
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Liverpool have finally been deform  because of just one man they sold in the transfer window. One can't compare the two sides presently because one team is a total flop while the other is in form this season. Chelsea still have problem because the new boss haven't signed his own set of players yet but we are hoping he gets us goal machine and assists robot in the team. Chelsea not giving up this time as there are so many challenges for the team to face but we the blues fans will always face phases that are tangible to solve.

Well, Sadio Mane has a great offer from Bayern Munich and why would Liverpool accepts the offer Sadio Mane is the only effective Winger for them, and the addition of Neco Williams is really hard for the team to get back on their feet,

While Chelsea have Timo Werner going to Leipzig it seems pretty much both teams will need new recruit in the next season, they are really needing to get a striker with the skill to be a goal machine, and with fast pace defensive maneuver,


Why still associate it with Mane wheraes if we consider Mane himself at Bayern Munich too, Mane can't make a big contribution to them. So it's not about Mane but maybe it's Liverpool who haven't improved, so they didn't get a good result. When a team doesn't make progress but other teams make improvements, then of course the team that doesn't make progress will be left behind and that happened to Liverpool. I wonder why people still associate him with Mane, if it is realized that if one player leaves it doesn't matter because there are other old players who are still in the team.

Sadio Mane is a good Winger for Liverpool, but in getting on board with Bayern Munich and changing what he suppose to do, like in the Liverpool, Bayern Munich and Mane aren't really compatible with each other, which is why right now they are changing such position and getting Mane is a usual position, like he is in the Liverpool, but we can not blame the downfall of a team to just 1 man and you are right that Liverpool surely have a problem with all the blame aswell,


Usually last season Mohamed Salah impressed many spectators, but his performance this season has decreased, maybe his condition is not good or maybe it is also affected by getting older so that the performance seems to be decreasing, Hopefully at the end of the season there will be a surprise from the Liverpool team.

Robert Firmino is still the goaler they will be needing but surely it is not enough and right now Salah is completely change maybe it is his age, but he is still younger than Robert Lewandowski, but the build of ones body is not pretty much shown to Mohamed Salah he must be 30 years of age, but his performance is depleted to a mere 40 years old, but yeah maybe they can find a way to retaliate next time, maybe with Firmino this time,
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Since Sadio mane left Liverpool to another team has really changed Liverpool negatively, because it hard Salah to perform well in this season compared to last season, because the player that really understood him is Sadio mane that left the team last season.

20 goals create in 8 matches is an extraordinary achievement for Liverpool's front line, even it is included in the top 4 of the GF premier league after Man City, Arsenal and Tottenham.
So I think Liverpool's main problem is not attack or Mohamed Salah. Because we can see how weak Liverpool's defense is until the 8th week of the Premier League with 12 conceded, very much different from last season which only conceded 26 goals in 38 matches.
In this case it looks quite good but we also know that the 20 goals were 1 match where they scored 9 goals against Bournemouth at that time so indeed with this it can be concluded that their attacking line is good but there are still problems in terms of consistency.
We can't fully assume Liverpool's goal productivity statistics are actually good because in terms of their goals conceded, they are also quite a lot.

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October 12, 2022, 02:12:37 PM
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Usually last season Mohamed Salah impressed many spectators, but his performance this season has decreased, maybe his condition is not good or maybe it is also affected by getting older so that the performance seems to be decreasing, Hopefully at the end of the season there will be a surprise from the Liverpool team.
The thing is, decline in form is somewhat normal with players, and it can be for quite a lot of reasons, there is no exact reason as to why a player is experiencing a dip in form, and in the case of Salah we cannot pinpoint a particular reason why he is not performing at the level we have come to know him for, it could prolly be because the entire team is performing badly, or it is a personal fault of his, but tbh he really has to step up, and this weekend against City is a perfect chance for him to do that.

Having said that, it is going to be difficult, City are in blistering form and Liverpool are not, in previous meetings between the two sides i always envisaged a strong contest, but this time around if i am to make my prediction known, i think City will win comfortably, like they did against Manchester United.

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October 12, 2022, 02:56:56 PM
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Having said that, it is going to be difficult, City are in blistering form and Liverpool are not, in previous meetings between the two sides i always envisaged a strong contest, but this time around if i am to make my prediction known, i think City will win comfortably, like they did against Manchester United.

It's possible, anything can happen. Man City's game was so incredible. I think it's only natural that everyone is pinning their hopes on Man City is a strong candidate for the EPL champions. Haaland's arrival made Man City so strong. Meanwhile, Liverpool, they are unstable.
In next week's game, Liverpool and Man City will actually compete. But I saw that schedule postponed. If told to bet then I would choose Man City to win by half. They are just as busy because they play in UCL.

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October 12, 2022, 02:59:32 PM
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Liverpool front line this season has greatly decreased in goal productivity where Mohamed Salah, Firmino and Nunez have not found their good performances. Liverpool previously lost to Arsenal which made them really thrown out of the title race this season. Nunez found it difficult to find his best form in almost a few games in his first season with Liverpool. kloop is a great coach he will be able to make liverpool back to the top 4 in the next match, Today liverpool will face Rangers in the 4th round of the group stage and I believe liverpool will easily win this match.
Usually last season Mohamed Salah impressed many spectators, but his performance this season has decreased, maybe his condition is not good or maybe it is also affected by getting older so that the performance seems to be decreasing, Hopefully at the end of the season there will be a surprise from the Liverpool team.
I personally don't really believe Liverpool will recover quickly enough to get back into the top four, it's a tough job and they need a lot more time to recover. Because not only their attack line decreased but also their defense was very weak. Therefore, it is not enough for Liverpool to only prioritize attack, because if their defensive line is weak then having lots of goals will also be in vain. We can see how Leicester have so far been even bottom of the table, Leicester so far have 15 goals and it can be said Leicester are still prolific in scoring but unfortunately they conceded 24 goals so far which proves their defense is weak. Regarding today's match against Rangers in the Champions League I'm still not sure Liverpool will win easily, because some of the main players are injured which will certainly have an impact on their performance.

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October 12, 2022, 03:02:46 PM
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Liverpool front line this season has greatly decreased in goal productivity where Mohamed Salah, Firmino and Nunez have not found their good performances. Liverpool previously lost to Arsenal which made them really thrown out of the title race this season. Nunez found it difficult to find his best form in almost a few games in his first season with Liverpool. kloop is a great coach he will be able to make liverpool back to the top 4 in the next match, Today liverpool will face Rangers in the 4th round of the group stage and I believe liverpool will easily win this match.
Usually last season Mohamed Salah impressed many spectators, but his performance this season has decreased, maybe his condition is not good or maybe it is also affected by getting older so that the performance seems to be decreasing, Hopefully at the end of the season there will be a surprise from the Liverpool team.

If I observe this season in the English league even though I am not a Liverpool fan, it is very different from last season, where Liverpool still had Sadio Mané who had an identity that was very helpful for Mohamed Salah's movement in scoring goals, When Sadio Mané chose to leave our Liverpool you can see this season, Liverpool seems to have lost their wings to return to the top of the class, maybe you can feel that if you are a Liverpool fan..

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October 12, 2022, 03:03:14 PM
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Liverpool front line this season has greatly decreased in goal productivity where Mohamed Salah, Firmino and Nunez have not found their good performances. Liverpool previously lost to Arsenal which made them really thrown out of the title race this season. Nunez found it difficult to find his best form in almost a few games in his first season with Liverpool. kloop is a great coach he will be able to make liverpool back to the top 4 in the next match, Today liverpool will face Rangers in the 4th round of the group stage and I believe liverpool will easily win this match.
Usually last season Mohamed Salah impressed many spectators, but his performance this season has decreased, maybe his condition is not good or maybe it is also affected by getting older so that the performance seems to be decreasing, Hopefully at the end of the season there will be a surprise from the Liverpool team.
A player's ups and downs is something we usually see, but at Liverpool they went downhill at the same time, that's what makes them a mess now. Not only in attack, but also in defense they do the same. How easily they are penetrated by the opponent's attacker. They have a lot of gaps that make it easier for opponents to move freely. I even saw that all of them couldn't perform at their best.

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October 12, 2022, 03:09:40 PM
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Usually last season Mohamed Salah impressed many spectators, but his performance this season has decreased, maybe his condition is not good or maybe it is also affected by getting older so that the performance seems to be decreasing, Hopefully at the end of the season there will be a surprise from the Liverpool team.
Mo Salah seems less enthusiastic about playing for Liverpool after Mane left for Bayern Munich, he is not as fierce as he used to be in front of goal. Mo Salah goal tally has dropped dramatically this season, the decline in Mo Salah's goal count hints as if he wants to leave Liverpool because there are no longer any players who are his ideal partner at Liverpool.

This is not a matter of age, Salah is still able to play a maximum of 90 minutes, a situation that Salah experienced because he felt he was no longer comfortable at Liverpool. He will try to leave Anfield as soon as possible in search of a new challenge at another club, if possible Salah will head to Bayern Munich to follow in Mane footsteps.

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October 12, 2022, 03:28:05 PM
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Usually last season Mohamed Salah impressed many spectators, but his performance this season has decreased, maybe his condition is not good or maybe it is also affected by getting older so that the performance seems to be decreasing, Hopefully at the end of the season there will be a surprise from the Liverpool team.
The thing is, decline in form is somewhat normal with players, and it can be for quite a lot of reasons, there is no exact reason as to why a player is experiencing a dip in form, and in the case of Salah we cannot pinpoint a particular reason why he is not performing at the level we have come to know him for, it could prolly be because the entire team is performing badly, or it is a personal fault of his, but tbh he really has to step up, and this weekend against City is a perfect chance for him to do that.

Having said that, it is going to be difficult, City are in blistering form and Liverpool are not, in previous meetings between the two sides i always envisaged a strong contest, but this time around if i am to make my prediction known, i think City will win comfortably, like they did against Manchester United.
We can see about Mohamed Salah who played less impressively last season like last season is now a little less aggressive and now his agility can always be broken by the opponent so this makes Mohamed Salah even more depressed but Klopp still believes the right wing striker is still filled by him.
Because squad changes can also affect but it's true we can't really say about that but for sure Mohamed Salah is still one of the great strikers.

About next week's match which will be difficult for Liverpool, although many expect Mancity to win I can't believe it will be an easy win for Mancity but I predict it will be tough even though Man City are still in the lead.

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