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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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October 12, 2022, 03:23:13 AM
Last edit: October 12, 2022, 03:47:29 AM by Zlantann
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Honestly this struggle stems from a lack of reinforcements. You can't be competing with Manchester City and not reinforce your squad with the right players. This struggle is all on the owners lack of wanting to spend money. This team looks tired, they just look flat. I’m not sure where the spark is going to come from. Besides, all these problems were existed seasons ago and without properly to deal with. FSG has made a big money after acquiring Liverpool but we can’t see the equal amount of investment into the squad.

Although Liverpool didn't spend so much as teams like Manchester City (£125m) and Chelsea (£278.4m) they invested £95.7m on players. They brought in Darwin Nunez, Fabio Carvalho, Calvin Ramsay, and Arthur Melo. And they also had a very good team last season. It's quite unfortunate that Nunez that was brought in as Mane's replacement is not performing optimally. Klopp has to figure out how to return the team to its winning ways or he might soon join his countryman Thomas Tuchel.

But indeed in this case something is difficult now because apart from his current form injuries to some of his players will obviously prevent them from reaching the top 4 and it will be very difficult for them at least until the middle of the season I think.
But with that, it is clear that Liverpool will make changes in terms of players later because if they force the current squad, even if they are still very good, they are still struggling, especially for Diaz's position, which has been left for a long time.

Yes, the team is challenged by so many injuries but I think Liverpool still has good players that should be giving them positive results. It shouldn't be an excuse for not performing because other teams like Manchester City and Chelsea have a list of injured key players. Laporte, Walker, and Phillips of City and Ziyech, Kante, and Fofana of Chelsea are all key players. Jürgen Klopp should be able to manage the functional team to get more results. Sometimes I feel that some players are made for a team and a team for the player. Sadio Mané was specially designed for Liverpool and the club was made for him.

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October 12, 2022, 03:34:44 AM
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The issue of Liverpool is starting from the team, because the deficiency of their team poor performance i think that it's from the players, because if they want to perform well in this season, i think that they a midfielder and defender, at least they need to hire more players fir the team and sell the old performing players. So with that only you will see that the methods of Liverpool football style will change directly, so they performance is extremely low.
Another reason is strategy. I believe another coach in the premier league is very understood how Liverpool played, They can read the player movement on each line, this situation is the same as Chelsea before Tuchel. but, I don't say the Kloop strategy is already stale because when I look him on every match, he always improvement the player strategy, I think what can he do next is to do maximising Nunez and a bit forget about Salah.
I think Liverpool is currently facing the same problem as Chelsea before changing coaches. because the Liverpool players are actually quite good. However, the strategy they play does not match the style of play of the players themselves. It's the same as when Chelsea were coached by Tuchel. Chelsea have good players but a game strategy that doesn't match makes Chelsea look weak. but now that graham potter is the coach of chelsea then we can see the game and chelsea's performance is very good. even Chelsea was able to beat a strong team like Milan up to two times in a row in the champions league. I believe Liverpool will be better if they can change their game strategy.

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October 12, 2022, 03:54:07 AM
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Liverpool has not been in good form this season. We have seen them struggle in most of their games this season including game played against average teams and some times they play very well like in the game against Brighton they kept scoring goals and coming from behind. I think the team isn't so bad and are showing glimpse of improvement from time to time so with time I believe they will get back to form.

Yes, Liverpool will definitely get it right soon because their coach is seriously working to ensure Sadio mane position is be handle very well in this season so that they can  be able to demonstrate well as usual. Since Sadio mane left Liverpool to another team has really changed Liverpool negatively, because it hard Salah to perform well in this season compared to last season, because the player that really understood him is Sadio mane that left the team last season. I believe, Liverpool coach will solve this challenges affecting the team before their next match to improve higher.

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I think Liverpool is currently facing the same problem as Chelsea before changing coaches. because the Liverpool players are actually quite good. However, the strategy they play does not match the style of play of the players themselves. It's the same as when Chelsea were coached by Tuchel. Chelsea have good players but a game strategy that doesn't match makes Chelsea look weak. but now that graham potter is the coach of chelsea then we can see the game and chelsea's performance is very good. even Chelsea was able to beat a strong team like Milan up to two times in a row in the champions league. I believe Liverpool will be better if they can change their game strategy.
Isn't the players and coaches that Liverpool have are still the same as last season, only a few new players have entered the Liverpool squad, then where is the correlation between last season's strategy and now that is not going well. What I saw was Liverpool losing faith while playing, Mohamed Salah and Virgil Van Dijk not in good form, plus a lot of their players were injured, at least almost eight players who couldn't play for Liverpool, so it had an impact on the results they received in every game.

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October 12, 2022, 04:32:22 AM
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I think Liverpool is currently facing the same problem as Chelsea before changing coaches. because the Liverpool players are actually quite good. However, the strategy they play does not match the style of play of the players themselves. It's the same as when Chelsea were coached by Tuchel. Chelsea have good players but a game strategy that doesn't match makes Chelsea look weak. but now that graham potter is the coach of chelsea then we can see the game and chelsea's performance is very good. even Chelsea was able to beat a strong team like Milan up to two times in a row in the champions league. I believe Liverpool will be better if they can change their game strategy.
Liverpool have finally been deform  because of just one man they sold in the transfer window. One can't compare the two sides presently because one team is a total flop while the other is in form this season. Chelsea still have problem because the new boss haven't signed his own set of players yet but we are hoping he gets us goal machine and assists robot in the team. Chelsea not giving up this time as there are so many challenges for the team to face but we the blues fans will always face phases that are tangible to solve.

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October 12, 2022, 04:45:41 AM
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Liverpool has not been in good form this season. We have seen them struggle in most of their games this season including game played against average teams and some times they play very well like in the game against Brighton they kept scoring goals and coming from behind. I think the team isn't so bad and are showing glimpse of improvement from time to time so with time I believe they will get back to form.

Yes, Liverpool will definitely get it right soon because their coach is seriously working to ensure Sadio mane position is be handle very well in this season so that they can  be able to demonstrate well as usual. Since Sadio mane left Liverpool to another team has really changed Liverpool negatively, because it hard Salah to perform well in this season compared to last season, because the player that really understood him is Sadio mane that left the team last season. I believe, Liverpool coach will solve this challenges affecting the team before their next match to improve higher.
Why still associate it with Mane wheraes if we consider Mane himself at Bayern Munich too, Mane can't make a big contribution to them. So it's not about Mane but maybe it's Liverpool who haven't improved, so they didn't get a good result. When a team doesn't make progress but other teams make improvements, then of course the team that doesn't make progress will be left behind and that happened to Liverpool. I wonder why people still associate him with Mane, if it is realized that if one player leaves it doesn't matter because there are other old players who are still in the team.

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October 12, 2022, 05:13:21 AM
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Why still associate it with Mane wheraes if we consider Mane himself at Bayern Munich too, Mane can't make a big contribution to them. So it's not about Mane but maybe it's Liverpool who haven't improved, so they didn't get a good result. When a team doesn't make progress but other teams make improvements, then of course the team that doesn't make progress will be left behind and that happened to Liverpool. I wonder why people still associate him with Mane, if it is realized that if one player leaves it doesn't matter because there are other old players who are still in the team.
Liverpool problem is critical, before it was all about the exit of Sadio Mané that have been a big pressure on the team to carry and have left  Mohammed Salah stranded and struggling in the team. Let's take for instance, when Liverpool thrashed Bournemouth 9 nil, Salah was present in the game and he failed to either score or give assist in the game. Then if it was when Mané was still in Liverpool, that kind of frustration for the Egyptian wouldn't have happened, we would have seen Salah on the scoresheet and probably score either a brave or an hattrick. The reds are not in form and that's the major reason behind their losing and sharing draw points.

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October 12, 2022, 06:24:23 AM
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We got a LONG list of players in the dressing room:

- Diaz
- Trent?
- Curtis Jones
- Joel Matip
- Ox
- Kieta
Arthur hasn't played a single game!

Bloody, he wasn't even on the bench when the midfield got smashed by Arsenal.



And relying on Joe Gomez is something I will never encourage, I'm no fan of the red's though but I tend to analyze football in the right way. Pairing Gomez alongside Virgil van Dijk is gon be the worst pair I've seen in a long time, also you missed out Liverpool's left full back Robertson, tsmikas hasn't been up to standard and he's always send to balls backwards.

I expect them to pipe low against Manchester City during the weekend, I'll so much appreciate it if they can get a draw from that game.
Mo Salah hasn't been scoring goals and which has been disturbing even for a non fan to observe and see. Klopp should change strategies, he either gets Kylian Mbappe during the transfer window ( since he demanded for the exit according to the media ) or start playing those balls into the eighteen yard box for Darwin Nunez to score, I see it's same thing done by Pep Guardiola at Manchester City currently.

I'm predicting a full time draw result during the weekend against City, they can't achieve more than that to be realistic. No Shades.

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The issue of Liverpool is starting from the team, because the deficiency of their team poor performance i think that it's from the players, because if they want to perform well in this season, i think that they a midfielder and defender, at least they need to hire more players fir the team and sell the old performing players. So with that only you will see that the methods of Liverpool football style will change directly, so they performance is extremely low.
Another reason is strategy. I believe another coach in the premier league is very understood how Liverpool played, They can read the player movement on each line, this situation is the same as Chelsea before Tuchel. but, I don't say the Kloop strategy is already stale because when I look him on every match, he always improvement the player strategy, I think what can he do next is to do maximising Nunez and a bit forget about Salah.
I think Liverpool is currently facing the same problem as Chelsea before changing coaches. because the Liverpool players are actually quite good. However, the strategy they play does not match the style of play of the players themselves. It's the same as when Chelsea were coached by Tuchel. Chelsea have good players but a game strategy that doesn't match makes Chelsea look weak. but now that graham potter is the coach of chelsea then we can see the game and chelsea's performance is very good. even Chelsea was able to beat a strong team like Milan up to two times in a row in the champions league. I believe Liverpool will be better if they can change their game strategy.
I think it's quite different that in Chelsea Tuchel was spend a lot of money to get new players but he cannot bring Chelsea playing well so that's why the management sacked him but for Liverpool Klopp hasn't spend much money to buy players although they bought Nunez on 100 millions Euro but before buy him Liverpool have to sell some of players such as Minamino and Mane and one is certain issue for Liverpool is their squad is not ready to faced injured issues so this makes Liverpool performance weren't optimal and the depth of quality squad for Liverpool also is not equal and when Liverpool playing using their Reserved players it's more likely they will lose because Liverpool reserved squad is full of mediocre players

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October 12, 2022, 08:54:46 AM
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The issue of Liverpool is starting from the team, because the deficiency of their team poor performance i think that it's from the players, because if they want to perform well in this season, i think that they a midfielder and defender, at least they need to hire more players fir the team and sell the old performing players. So with that only you will see that the methods of Liverpool football style will change directly, so they performance is extremely low.
Another reason is strategy. I believe another coach in the premier league is very understood how Liverpool played, They can read the player movement on each line, this situation is the same as Chelsea before Tuchel. but, I don't say the Kloop strategy is already stale because when I look him on every match, he always improvement the player strategy, I think what can he do next is to do maximising Nunez and a bit forget about Salah.
I think Liverpool is currently facing the same problem as Chelsea before changing coaches. because the Liverpool players are actually quite good. However, the strategy they play does not match the style of play of the players themselves. It's the same as when Chelsea were coached by Tuchel. Chelsea have good players but a game strategy that doesn't match makes Chelsea look weak. but now that graham potter is the coach of chelsea then we can see the game and chelsea's performance is very good. even Chelsea was able to beat a strong team like Milan up to two times in a row in the champions league. I believe Liverpool will be better if they can change their game strategy.
I think it's quite different that in Chelsea Tuchel was spend a lot of money to get new players but he cannot bring Chelsea playing well so that's why the management sacked him but for Liverpool Klopp hasn't spend much money to buy players although they bought Nunez on 100 millions Euro but before buy him Liverpool have to sell some of players such as Minamino and Mane and one is certain issue for Liverpool is their squad is not ready to faced injured issues so this makes Liverpool performance weren't optimal and the depth of quality squad for Liverpool also is not equal and when Liverpool playing using their Reserved players it's more likely they will lose because Liverpool reserved squad is full of mediocre players

Liverpool's weaknesses this season are two. First, several players in their squad are injured. Second, they don't have Sadio Mane in their squad. Mane may not have scored too many goals. But he played an important role in Liverpool's performance. Nunez was brought in as a replacement for Sadio Mane. He was expected to become a regular scorer like Haaland. But he managed to score only two goals in 5 matches. Liverpool's main weakness is their defense and midfield. Liverpool's performance will improve if they are able to improve their defense.
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October 12, 2022, 09:12:26 AM
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The issue of Liverpool is starting from the team, because the deficiency of their team poor performance i think that it's from the players, because if they want to perform well in this season, i think that they a midfielder and defender, at least they need to hire more players fir the team and sell the old performing players. So with that only you will see that the methods of Liverpool football style will change directly, so they performance is extremely low.
Another reason is strategy. I believe another coach in the premier league is very understood how Liverpool played, They can read the player movement on each line, this situation is the same as Chelsea before Tuchel. but, I don't say the Kloop strategy is already stale because when I look him on every match, he always improvement the player strategy, I think what can he do next is to do maximising Nunez and a bit forget about Salah.
I think Liverpool is currently facing the same problem as Chelsea before changing coaches. because the Liverpool players are actually quite good. However, the strategy they play does not match the style of play of the players themselves. It's the same as when Chelsea were coached by Tuchel. Chelsea have good players but a game strategy that doesn't match makes Chelsea look weak. but now that graham potter is the coach of chelsea then we can see the game and chelsea's performance is very good. even Chelsea was able to beat a strong team like Milan up to two times in a row in the champions league. I believe Liverpool will be better if they can change their game strategy.
I think it's quite different that in Chelsea Tuchel was spend a lot of money to get new players but he cannot bring Chelsea playing well so that's why the management sacked him but for Liverpool Klopp hasn't spend much money to buy players although they bought Nunez on 100 millions Euro but before buy him Liverpool have to sell some of players such as Minamino and Mane and one is certain issue for Liverpool is their squad is not ready to faced injured issues so this makes Liverpool performance weren't optimal and the depth of quality squad for Liverpool also is not equal and when Liverpool playing using their Reserved players it's more likely they will lose because Liverpool reserved squad is full of mediocre players

Liverpool's weaknesses this season are two. First, several players in their squad are injured. Second, they don't have Sadio Mane in their squad. Mane may not have scored too many goals. But he played an important role in Liverpool's performance. Nunez was brought in as a replacement for Sadio Mane. He was expected to become a regular scorer like Haaland. But he managed to score only two goals in 5 matches. Liverpool's main weakness is their defense and midfield. Liverpool's performance will improve if they are able to improve their defense.
The thing that stands out from Liverpool's declining form is that they are no longer good at taking the ball away from opponents, and also Mane's departure has also had a major impact on Liverpool's current form from last season. Mane has a special ability to make Liverpool still achieve good results even in difficult situations.
The existence of Nunez may still be able to adapt, but that's not a reasonable reason because if a player who really has extraordinary talent will adapt quickly like Haaland.

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October 12, 2022, 09:15:26 AM
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I think Liverpool is currently facing the same problem as Chelsea before changing coaches. because the Liverpool players are actually quite good. However, the strategy they play does not match the style of play of the players themselves. It's the same as when Chelsea were coached by Tuchel. Chelsea have good players but a game strategy that doesn't match makes Chelsea look weak. but now that graham potter is the coach of chelsea then we can see the game and chelsea's performance is very good. even Chelsea was able to beat a strong team like Milan up to two times in a row in the champions league. I believe Liverpool will be better if they can change their game strategy.
Isn't the players and coaches that Liverpool have are still the same as last season, only a few new players have entered the Liverpool squad, then where is the correlation between last season's strategy and now that is not going well.
What I saw was Liverpool losing faith while playing, Mohamed Salah and Virgil Van Dijk not in good form, plus a lot of their players were injured, at least almost eight players who couldn't play for Liverpool, so it had an impact on the results they received in every game.
What you said about team strategy and the coach is correct for Chelsea Football Club because we can see that the arrival of Graham Potter has proved that Thomas was not actually doing the right thing with Chelsea player. In his first season he had his way, won the Champions League but he did not have the Perfect Blend with the players. Graham Potter is doing it well with the players for a start. It is not the same situation with Liverpool , the coach of Liverpool has been with them even when they did not play well.
So, no strategy actually changed, it is the players that's lost form individually and it is affecting the overall performance of the club .

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October 12, 2022, 09:29:06 AM
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What you said about team strategy and the coach is correct for Chelsea Football Club because we can see that the arrival of Graham Potter has proved that Thomas was not actually doing the right thing with Chelsea player. In his first season he had his way, won the Champions League but he did not have the Perfect Blend with the players. Graham Potter is doing it well with the players for a start. It is not the same situation with Liverpool , the coach of Liverpool has been with them even when they did not play well.
So, no strategy actually changed, it is the players that's lost form individually and it is affecting the overall performance of the club .
Knowing all the skills of the players is indeed very difficult and it can be done by Graham Potter is a very good step and hopefully this will be the initial success of Graham Potter's career as a Chelsea coach who can bring Chelsea to be winners of this league, it has been seen that Chelsea have started to gain wins in their last three matches. The toughest opponents for Chelsea are Manchester City and Arsenal who will meet in November and early January 2023.

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October 12, 2022, 10:37:57 AM
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I think Liverpool is currently facing the same problem as Chelsea before changing coaches. because the Liverpool players are actually quite good. However, the strategy they play does not match the style of play of the players themselves. It's the same as when Chelsea were coached by Tuchel. Chelsea have good players but a game strategy that doesn't match makes Chelsea look weak. but now that graham potter is the coach of chelsea then we can see the game and chelsea's performance is very good. even Chelsea was able to beat a strong team like Milan up to two times in a row in the champions league. I believe Liverpool will be better if they can change their game strategy.

Jürgen Klopp has done well for Liverpool and I think it's time for the club to move on and employ the service of someone that can work with the boys to bring out the best in them before they end the season badly. The boys are now familiar with Jürgen Klopp and probably won't be taking him very serious. Players like Mo Salah knows no matter how bad they play, they'll still get a start or better playing time, knowing fully well the media/board will criticize the coach when they lose and he weren't played especially as he's now on a massive salary.

Chelsea saw the problem in the club and decided to pathway before it get ugly, Liverpool should do the same because they have been awful this season and the title is slipping away although there is still time to catch up on the race if the right decisions are taken and one of those is sacking Jürgen Klopp.

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October 12, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
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Liverpool has not been in good form this season. We have seen them struggle in most of their games this season including game played against average teams and some times they play very well like in the game against Brighton they kept scoring goals and coming from behind. I think the team isn't so bad and are showing glimpse of improvement from time to time so with time I believe they will get back to form.
Honestly this struggle stems from a lack of reinforcements. You can't be competing with Manchester City and not reinforce your squad with the right players. This struggle is all on the owners lack of wanting to spend money. This team looks tired, they just look flat. I’m not sure where the spark is going to come from. Besides, all these problems were existed seasons ago and without properly to deal with. FSG has made a big money after acquiring Liverpool but we can’t see the equal amount of investment into the squad.
The problem with Liverpool is not that they were unable to reinforce their squad. Assuming they kept their squad constant without selling anyone it would have been better but they were unable to get high class players and at the same time they sold one of their best players. That was the beginning of the problem of Liverpool, the team connection was lost and Nunes was unable to fit the role that made Liverpool spend huge amount of money to get him.

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October 12, 2022, 11:09:53 AM
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The issue of Liverpool is starting from the team, because the deficiency of their team poor performance i think that it's from the players, because if they want to perform well in this season, i think that they a midfielder and defender, at least they need to hire more players fir the team and sell the old performing players. So with that only you will see that the methods of Liverpool football style will change directly, so they performance is extremely low.
Another reason is strategy. I believe another coach in the premier league is very understood how Liverpool played, They can read the player movement on each line, this situation is the same as Chelsea before Tuchel. but, I don't say the Kloop strategy is already stale because when I look him on every match, he always improvement the player strategy, I think what can he do next is to do maximising Nunez and a bit forget about Salah.


IMO, there are a lot of issues going on together at Liverpool. ranging from player injuries to players who perform below standard, this is the main factor Liverpool play very underperform. Injuries in midfield are also a problem for them, Klopp is an extraordinary coach, who has high experience requirements. however, with Liverpool's current condition plus underperform it is difficult for any coach to magically restore his performance.

Of course, Liverpool's current condition is quite worrying, considering that they were once predicted to be one of the champions. this is one of Klopp's mistakes in the summer transfer market yesterday, they were too careful in signing players.

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October 12, 2022, 11:48:01 AM
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The thing that stands out from Liverpool's declining form is that they are no longer good at taking the ball away from opponents, and also Mane's departure has also had a major impact on Liverpool's current form from last season. Mane has a special ability to make Liverpool still achieve good results even in difficult situations.
The existence of Nunez may still be able to adapt, but that's not a reasonable reason because if a player who really has extraordinary talent will adapt quickly like Haaland.
Liverpool front line this season has greatly decreased in goal productivity where Mohamed Salah, Firmino and Nunez have not found their good performances. Liverpool previously lost to Arsenal which made them really thrown out of the title race this season. Nunez found it difficult to find his best form in almost a few games in his first season with Liverpool. kloop is a great coach he will be able to make liverpool back to the top 4 in the next match, Today liverpool will face Rangers in the 4th round of the group stage and I believe liverpool will easily win this match.

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October 12, 2022, 11:50:27 AM
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Since Sadio mane left Liverpool to another team has really changed Liverpool negatively, because it hard Salah to perform well in this season compared to last season, because the player that really understood him is Sadio mane that left the team last season.

20 goals create in 8 matches is an extraordinary achievement for Liverpool's front line, even it is included in the top 4 of the GF premier league after Man City, Arsenal and Tottenham.
So I think Liverpool's main problem is not attack or Mohamed Salah. Because we can see how weak Liverpool's defense is until the 8th week of the Premier League with 12 conceded, very much different from last season which only conceded 26 goals in 38 matches.

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October 12, 2022, 12:31:31 PM
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What you said about team strategy and the coach is correct for Chelsea Football Club because we can see that the arrival of Graham Potter has proved that Thomas was not actually doing the right thing with Chelsea player. In his first season he had his way, won the Champions League but he did not have the Perfect Blend with the players. Graham Potter is doing it well with the players for a start. It is not the same situation with Liverpool , the coach of Liverpool has been with them even when they did not play well.
So, no strategy actually changed, it is the players that's lost form individually and it is affecting the overall performance of the club .
Knowing all the skills of the players is indeed very difficult and it can be done by Graham Potter is a very good step and hopefully this will be the initial success of Graham Potter's career as a Chelsea coach who can bring Chelsea to be winners of this league, it has been seen that Chelsea have started to gain wins in their last three matches. The toughest opponents for Chelsea are Manchester City and Arsenal who will meet in November and early January 2023.
All players are feeling confidence with him. His rotation has been giving enough time for any players in chelsea to show their skill in the field. I do like how graham was managing the team but it seems too early for me to say that if graham was the best for chelsea. I just wanna know whether chelsea can at least get 1 trophy for this year or not. Im sure that chelsea will be performing so well in champion league. The performance is slowly growing at this moment.
I would not be surprised to see that if chelsea may able to get champion league trophy for this season.

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October 12, 2022, 12:43:26 PM
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As far as I can see, Rodgers is trying his best but Leicester players aren't making the same effort in defense. He criticised his team about the Bournemouth game which they lost that the players were seeming very comfortable. I don't understand how they can be this much comfortable while they are the worst team in the league now. Their squad quality is much better than many teams in the league in fact but they have literally no defense.

This problem in defense doesn't seem like it can be solved without making some transfers in January. Let's see if Rodgers will also be able to stay until then.

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