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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.9%)
Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
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March 17, 2021, 04:20:21 AM
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I don't think injuries affect Liverpool's championship chances even slightly. If all players were healthy and get no card ban Liverpool couldn't win the league.
Many players injured must influence big for the chance to win the title. Especially, if the injured players are the key players of the club. If all players of Liverpool are healthy, I am pretty sure that Liverpool must be in the top 3 standings right now. If you are a real football lover, you should know it well. You need to remember what Liverpool could achieve in the previous season once their players are healthy and in their top performance.

While all of Liverpool's players are healthy, I don't see any chance of Liverpool making it into the top three this season. Liverpool is 10 points behind third-placed Leicester United. And Liverpool is 25 points behind Manchester City. I think Liverpool could end the season as the fifth team in the table.

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March 17, 2021, 05:37:32 AM
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I don't think injuries affect Liverpool's championship chances even slightly. If all players were healthy and get no card ban Liverpool couldn't win the league.
Many players injured must influence big for the chance to win the title. Especially, if the injured players are the key players of the club. If all players of Liverpool are healthy, I am pretty sure that Liverpool must be in the top 3 standings right now. If you are a real football lover, you should know it well. You need to remember what Liverpool could achieve in the previous season once their players are healthy and in their top performance.

Yeah I agree with you, some of the Liverpool core players who suffered injuries greatly affected the team's performance and the results made them really have to fight, it's sad if compare the current results with previous season, I'm not saying that they should be able to be champions, but at least they must be better rated than now.

The most important thing is Patricio seems to have escaped serious injury. You can read here that the injury is not as bad as first feared.

www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12247540/rui-patricio-wolves-keeper-injury-not-as-severe-as-first-feared
Read this good news, and Wolves desperately need Patrico in all of their remaining EPL matches to improve their rankings.

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March 17, 2021, 10:10:04 AM
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I don't think injuries affect Liverpool's championship chances even slightly. If all players were healthy and get no card ban Liverpool couldn't win the league.
Many players injured must influence big for the chance to win the title. Especially, if the injured players are the key players of the club. If all players of Liverpool are healthy, I am pretty sure that Liverpool must be in the top 3 standings right now. If you are a real football lover, you should know it well. You need to remember what Liverpool could achieve in the previous season once their players are healthy and in their top performance.

Yeah I agree with you, some of the Liverpool core players who suffered injuries greatly affected the team's performance and the results made them really have to fight, it's sad if compare the current results with previous season, I'm not saying that they should be able to be champions, but at least they must be better rated than now.


Of course injuries have an important role on the performance of a team. But for weeks, there has been no injury preventing them from scoring more goals than the conceded amount and winning their matches. I understand that their defense is weaker in the absence of especially Virgil van Dijk. But they don't have any excuse for the attacking side. Players like Salah, Mane and Jota (He has been playing for a few weeks though) all have been playing for a long time. But they still are having big problems on getting a comfortable win or even getting a win. I hope the win vs Wolves has boosted their morale and we can see them playing better in the next matches ahead of them.

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I don't think injuries affect Liverpool's championship chances even slightly. If all players were healthy and get no card ban Liverpool couldn't win the league.
Many players injured must influence big for the chance to win the title. Especially, if the injured players are the key players of the club. If all players of Liverpool are healthy, I am pretty sure that Liverpool must be in the top 3 standings right now. If you are a real football lover, you should know it well. You need to remember what Liverpool could achieve in the previous season once their players are healthy and in their top performance.

Yeah I agree with you, some of the Liverpool core players who suffered injuries greatly affected the team's performance and the results made them really have to fight, it's sad if compare the current results with previous season, I'm not saying that they should be able to be champions, but at least they must be better rated than now.


Of course injuries have an important role on the performance of a team. But for weeks, there has been no injury preventing them from scoring more goals than the conceded amount and winning their matches. I understand that their defense is weaker in the absence of especially Virgil van Dijk. But they don't have any excuse for the attacking side. Players like Salah, Mane and Jota (He has been playing for a few weeks though) all have been playing for a long time. But they still are having big problems on getting a comfortable win or even getting a win. I hope the win vs Wolves has boosted their morale and we can see them playing better in the next matches ahead of them.

I agree that injuries will hinder the performance of the team, but as a professional team they should have good mitigation what if key players get injured?  the strategy should be prepared in a variety of team conditions.  Plans A, b, and c should be prepared.  Now the Reds are in 6th place which means the Reds may also have to get ready to say goodbye to the Champions League. Klopp is so emotional about everything.  Their hopes of winning the title remain in the Champions League, having been knocked out of the FA Cup and Carabao Cup, and hopes of defending the league title have vanished.
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March 17, 2021, 01:39:25 PM
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Firmino and Henderson ( the worse midfielder) were around during the doom days yet they couldn't do anything to stop Liverpool downfall what made you feel they would do anything now?

I don't know why I'm even replying to this. Henderson is really important for us, both tactically and mentally. He doesn't have to do bicycle dribbles in order to be a quality player.

But ok, let's try to explain. We're playing with Nat Phillips in defence currently. Getting Henderson back means that either him or Fabinho can replace Phillips without us losing shape and stability in the middle of the pitch.

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March 17, 2021, 06:30:03 PM
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I don't think injuries affect Liverpool's championship chances even slightly. If all players were healthy and get no card ban Liverpool couldn't win the league.
Many players injured must influence big for the chance to win the title. Especially, if the injured players are the key players of the club. If all players of Liverpool are healthy, I am pretty sure that Liverpool must be in the top 3 standings right now. If you are a real football lover, you should know it well. You need to remember what Liverpool could achieve in the previous season once their players are healthy and in their top performance.

Yeah I agree with you, some of the Liverpool core players who suffered injuries greatly affected the team's performance and the results made them really have to fight, it's sad if compare the current results with previous season, I'm not saying that they should be able to be champions, but at least they must be better rated than now.
Even if we do not talk about anything else, Virgil van Dijk missing the season played a huge role, that guy is one of the best defenders in the whole world and not having anything like that would be horrible for any team that has a great defender like him. This is why we can't say that Liverpool wasn't affected by the injuries, they also had players missing along the season as well that went and came back, small injuries or even Salah with coronavirus as far as I remember that was the only one but could be more that I forgot.

Basically we are talking about some momentum lost during these periods as well. However we can't put it all on injuries as well, we are talking about Liverpool leading the league for weeks and then suddenly they started to lose a lot and back to back, 4-5 games lost in a row is not something Liverpool should do even with that many injuries.

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March 17, 2021, 09:06:14 PM
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West Ham-Arsenal game on this weekend will be a very tough game and it is one of the missing games of both teams. West Ham are maintaining the 5th place despite losing to Manchester Utd away in their last game. They got 2 losses in their last 3 games but both of them were against the Manchester clubs.  Grin  Arsenal got a really valuable win against Tottenham the last which should give them a big confidence. Arsenal beat West Ham 2-1 this season but this time I expect them to have a very hard time against West Ham. I even think that West Ham could take revenge on that game and beat Arsenal in this.

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March 17, 2021, 09:08:25 PM
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It's not a problem having injuries. The thing is that no team can handle so many of them in the same position at the same time.

Liverpool started the season with 3 senior CB-s (VVD, Gomez, Matip) and Fabinho as cover. They lost VVD and Gomez early on for the whole season and at one point they did not have Matip, Fabinho and Henderson (5th CB option) as well.

They are basically playing with kids and players out of position the whole season - and at the most vulnerable place in the team - central defence.

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March 17, 2021, 09:28:57 PM
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It's not a problem having injuries. The thing is that no team can handle so many of them in the same position at the same time.

Liverpool started the season with 3 senior CB-s (VVD, Gomez, Matip) and Fabinho as cover. They lost VVD and Gomez early on for the whole season and at one point they did not have Matip, Fabinho and Henderson (5th CB option) as well.

They are basically playing with kids and players out of position the whole season - and at the most vulnerable place in the team - central defence.

People enjoy making excuses for Liverpool lol; The reality is that Liverpool has had a woeful season performance wise; they were playing bad even before VVD or Gomez injury. Klopp also was aware how soft his defenders are but did not go for replacements.

Manchester United and Manchester city started the season without pre season and injuries; every players get injured one way or the other; injuries are not an excuse for poor performances and poor league form
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March 17, 2021, 11:27:42 PM
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While all of Liverpool's players are healthy, I don't see any chance of Liverpool making it into the top three this season.
I suspect you don't understand what I am saying above. Please check @ingiltere post that I quoted before, then you can understand exactly my statement above. I am not talking about what Liverpool position in the table now but the potential position can be achieved by Liverpool if their injured players are healthy during this season. Of course, if we look at the current position right now, it will be hard to go to the top 3 on the table at the end of this season.

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March 18, 2021, 01:04:49 AM
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West Ham-Arsenal game on this weekend will be a very tough game and it is one of the missing games of both teams. West Ham are maintaining the 5th place despite losing to Manchester Utd away in their last game. They got 2 losses in their last 3 games but both of them were against the Manchester clubs.  Grin  Arsenal got a really valuable win against Tottenham the last which should give them a big confidence. Arsenal beat West Ham 2-1 this season but this time I expect them to have a very hard time against West Ham. I even think that West Ham could take revenge on that game and beat Arsenal in this.

It's true that West Ham vs Arsenal is one of the toughest matches on this week, as both teams want to win. Arsenal do have a pretty high
self-confidence after defeating Tottenham as rivals. Moreover, Arsenal's previous meeting managed to beat West Ham. This makes Arsenal
players more confident against West Ham this week. But West Ham is also this season, its performance is very good, it can be in 5th place now,
even if they beat Arsenal, they have the same points as Chelsea. I predict the West Ham vs Arsenal match will end in an Arsenal victory,
because Arsenal players are on fire, it is very difficult to beat Arsenal in these circumstances.

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March 18, 2021, 02:49:04 PM
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I think the top 4 is settled now, the current top 4 is likely to be the end of season top 4. And 2 of the 3 relegation places are settled, I think, too.
The main questions are
a) Who will take the final relegation spot? Anyone up to Southampton is vulnerable.
b) Will Liverpool qualify for Europe at all? Personally I think their most likely final position in the table will be 8th.






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I think the top 4 is settled now, the current top 4 is likely to be the end of season top 4. And 2 of the 3 relegation places are settled, I think, too.
The main questions are
a) Who will take the final relegation spot? Anyone up to Southampton is vulnerable.
b) Will Liverpool qualify for Europe at all? Personally I think their most likely final position in the table will be 8th.

Maybe not mathematically yet but I assume we can reach an agreement on that Manchester City already guaranteed the championship. I can't make a clear prediction for the places between 2nd and 4th. But it feels like Chelsea will be able to close the gap with Manchester Utd and Leicester both and we will see a big competition between them on the last weeks of the league.

My answers for:

a) I think Sheffield won't manage to rise to upper places and they will say goodbye to the EPL as the last.
b) There is a huge race for the 5th place to be able to qualify for the EL at least. Liverpool got a nice win vs Wolves in their last match but this doesn't prove anything yet for them. After seeing their performance and results they will get in their next a few matches, I can say something clearer for their chance. For now, it looks like it will be really hard for them to qualify for even the EL.


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March 18, 2021, 03:54:24 PM
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I think the top 4 is settled now, the current top 4 is likely to be the end of season top 4. And 2 of the 3 relegation places are settled, I think, too.
The main questions are
a) Who will take the final relegation spot? Anyone up to Southampton is vulnerable.
b) Will Liverpool qualify for Europe at all? Personally I think their most likely final position in the table will be 8th.
I think its too soon to say the top four is setteled since chelsea is very close to west ham but its very unlickly that they will lose their position since the good performance they are showing as for the relegation i think its between brighton fulham and newcastle and as for liverpool with this poor performance they won't be able to quallify for europa league
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I think the top 4 is settled now, the current top 4 is likely to be the end of season top 4. And 2 of the 3 relegation places are settled, I think, too.
The current top 4 is not settled yet, the points between 2nd -8th place is not that much and there are still 8-9 games left to play for which is about 30 points. I see the top 4 fight going on till the last day of the fixtures

The main questions are
a) Who will take the final relegation spot? Anyone up to Southampton is vulnerable.
Sheffield United
West Brom
Fulham

These teams can't make it out of their tough matches.
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b) Will Liverpool qualify for Europe at all? Personally I think their most likely final position in the table will be 8th.
Liverpool are aiming for the champions league spot which its still very possible.

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March 18, 2021, 05:10:29 PM
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a) Who will take the final relegation spot? Anyone up to Southampton is vulnerable.
b) Will Liverpool qualify for Europe at all? Personally I think their most likely final position in the table will be 8th.
Southampton will defend their position enough to avoid the relegation zone considering that there are still quite a few games left so I think it is important Southampton improve in appearance in every game that will compete.
Southampton will not be knocked out of the relegation zone and Watford like him next season will come back here.

For Liverpool to be pretty sure if some miracle happens they should recover then I think the 3-4 position table can be taken back.

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March 18, 2021, 08:17:59 PM
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I think the top 4 is settled now, the current top 4 is likely to be the end of season top 4. And 2 of the 3 relegation places are settled, I think, too.
The main questions are
a) Who will take the final relegation spot? Anyone up to Southampton is vulnerable.
b) Will Liverpool qualify for Europe at all? Personally I think their most likely final position in the table will be 8th.

It is quite clear that Sheffield or West Brom will be finishing as the last team in the table. To me, it will be Sheffield. Because I see that West Brom have a much bigger score potential than them and it is very likely that West Brom can even finish the league on the edge of relegation area.

When it comes to Liverpool, I've really no idea about them for now. Because they are too unstable and they won't make it to the Europa League as long as they have this terrible form.

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March 18, 2021, 08:37:00 PM
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For Liverpool to be pretty sure if some miracle happens they should recover then I think the 3-4 position table can be taken back.
How do you convince yourself that a miracle is coming for Liverpool? I would rather encourage you to hope they can win all the remaining match of the season if they are to get a place in the last 4 this season. But that's what most people at Liverpool are very doubtful about. They are so inconsistent that they were thrown into the top 8 last week.

Meanwhile, Liverpool are still very likely to return to number 8 when Tottenham and Everton have won their respective match. Liverpool will also face a tough match against Arsenal which will take place with full of pressure between the two teams.

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March 18, 2021, 10:56:06 PM
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~snip~.
b) Will Liverpool qualify for Europe at all? Personally I think their most likely final position in the table will be 8th.
The opportunity for liverpol in my opinion is still there. Moreover, they currently qualify for the quarter-finals. Their performances at UCL are better than in the league. Especially if Liverpol is able to win this is a surprise, and if I'm not mistaken it will increase the slot from the league for the number of clubs playing at UCL. I think they will try to give their best in every game. Just look at the last game in the league they won. Maybe it could be a turning point for their game to return to the europa zone again.
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~snip~
For the European Champions League, Liverpool still has a good chance to be qualified. At least, we can see the chance of Liverpool to be back in the top 5 on the table. I really hope that Liverpool can be consistent to get maximum points in the remaining matches. Moreover, if the injured players can come back soon to the Liverpool squad. They will be a big support to rank up on the top 5 again.

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