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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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July 19, 2023, 09:17:02 PM
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It will be a good business for Manchester United if Maguire leaves now rather than as a free agent because if he continues to stay in Manchester United, he will still be under salary and all will be losses on Manchester United.

Harry Maguire is not entirely a bad defender as he is described or widely seen. I have taken my time to watch Maguire in the England National Team squad and he has alot of confidence . So he might be good under another coach.
Overall, when playing with the England National Team Maguire did look better and solid, but we as spectators will definitely remember more often the blunders he made with Man United, up to the own goal against De Gea. At the club level, inconsistency that occurs more frequently means that Maguire must give up the captain's armband if he survives next season. The reports that he will be released in this transfer window are true, but so far no club has sent an official request to Man United. It seems that the price set by United for Maguire is 50 million, making clubs interested in him reluctant to spend that much money.

Ten Hag is really building United and completely overhauling his squad to face next season, United and Chelsea are the two most active EPL clubs currently in the transfer market.
Well Chelsea are one of the closest clubs to getting Maguire. Because currently at the Chelsea club there are very few senior players left. Because Mauricio Pochettino continues to release senior players from Chelsea. So that the figure of Maguire is indeed the most suitable for Chelsea at this time which requires players who are experienced at the back.

But Chelsea are reportedly only going to make an offer worth £40 million to sign Maguire. And considering Manchester United's financial condition, which is not very good at the moment. then I think this price will be a consideration for Man United to let go of Maguire. Maguire no longer has a place at Man United. So I think it's time he should go.

Chelsea is going to hire a player like Maguire because of his huge personal mistakes and I think a player like Maguire is not really interesting for any team to spend huge money for him and 40m is a lot for this player, Chelsea had expensive players before and they didn't get food results that's why I think Chelsea can find a better player instead of Maguire.



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July 19, 2023, 09:42:11 PM
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There are Mateo Kovacic, Kai Havertz, Alexis MacAllister, James Maddison, Dominik Szoboszlai, Mason Mount, and finally, currently the most expensive English player, Declan Rice.
For Alexis MacAllister and Dominik Szoboszlai who moved to Liverpool, they played today in the club friendly game against KARLSRUHER SC. In the game Dominik Szoboszlai started and was later replaced by Alexis MacAllister, so both of the players played like 45mins each. I noticed that the England player who was in a defensive position for Liverpool last season played a more advanced role in midfield. The manager of the club is trying out new things as Liverpool look to do better next season. Liverpool won the game,  Nunez, Gakpo and Jota scored two goals to give them the win.
I think Klopp is trying to build a new strong midfield with the due of Alexis MacAllister and Dominik Szoboszlai as attacking and defensive midfielders while playing Trent Alexander-Arnold in central midfield role against his usual right back position, though it was only Szoboszlai that played his debut match while MacAllister is yet to play his first game for the club, recall Fabinho and Henderson had both signed for Al-Ettifaq a Saudi Arabian based club thus their positions had already been filled by the new players, Liverpool started their preseason friendly on a positive note with a well deserved win against Karlsruher though two late goals by Jota sealed their win.

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July 19, 2023, 09:57:59 PM
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Maguire might just do well at the Chelsea defense as he's doing when playing for england.
He may play better in England national team, but I am sure England can play better without him.  Grin
No mate, just don't expect much about him to play well in Chelsea. If there are other options, Chelsea is better to sign other defenders

Players change under the right managers especially defenders. When managers get their pairing wrong it affects players. Did you watch Rudiger play under frank Lampard and Sarri before Sarri left the club and Lampard was sacked (the first time), he was one of the poorest defender I have even seen and wasn't getting playing time because of a flop he was just as Henry Maguire is at Manchester united but then Thomas tuchel came and everything turned around for Rudiger, he was one of the best defender in the premier league at some point and helped Chelsea in lifting the Champions league because our defender were the secret behind our victory that season.

We even sold him to Real Madrid and this was a player we were at some point looking to let go because of how poorly he was performing. I just told you this story for you to understand how vital coaches are to a player. I believe if Henry Maguire meets a coach that can use him to work he'll become a top defender. Let's not forget he wasn't a flop when he was bought so saying he's going to flop if sold is just assumptions. Players change under the right management just as I explained with the Rudiger story. Rudiger has gone on to win another champions league with Real Madrid so don't be surprised if Henry Maguire moves on and become successful as well.

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July 19, 2023, 09:59:14 PM
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Chelsea is going to hire a player like Maguire because of his huge personal mistakes and I think a player like Maguire is not really interesting for any team to spend huge money for him and 40m is a lot for this player, Chelsea had expensive players before and they didn't get food results that's why I think Chelsea can find a better player instead of Maguire.
It is still a rumor, we don't know how serious Chelsea to sign Maguire. I even think Chelsea current defenders are better than Maguire. Even if they are not strong enough but they don't score own goals at least.  Cheesy

Harry Maguire is 30 years old, his market value is €20m. No team will spend €40m for Maguire, it is just nonsense to buy a player who has bad performance and he is no longer young defender. Moreover, €40m is overpriced since he is only valued €20m. I assume any club who is interested to sign him for below €10m.


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July 19, 2023, 10:05:24 PM
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Maguire might just do well at the Chelsea defense as he's doing when playing for england.
He may play better in England national team, but I am sure England can play better without him.  Grin
No mate, just don't expect much about him to play well in Chelsea. If there are other options, Chelsea is better to sign other defenders

Players change under the right managers especially defenders. When managers get their pairing wrong it affects players. Did you watch Rudiger play under frank Lampard and Sarri before Sarri left the club and Lampard was sacked (the first time), he was one of the poorest defender I have even seen and wasn't getting playing time because of a flop he was just as Henry Maguire is at Manchester united but then Thomas tuchel came and everything turned around for Rudiger, he was one of the best defender in the premier league at some point and helped Chelsea in lifting the Champions league because our defender were the secret behind our victory that season.

We even sold him to Real Madrid and this was a player we were at some point looking to let go because of how poorly he was performing. I just told you this story for you to understand how vital coaches are to a player. I believe if Henry Maguire meets a coach that can use him to work he'll become a top defender. Let's not forget he wasn't a flop when he was bought so saying he's going to flop if sold is just assumptions. Players change under the right management just as I explained with the Rudiger story. Rudiger has gone on to win another champions league with Real Madrid so don't be surprised if Henry Maguire moves on and become successful as well.
Harry Maguire for a truth plays exceptionally well whenever his donning the Three Lions jersey of England national team which is why questions are asked about why he can't replicate that with his club side Manchester United.
But even if the reason for his underperformance at club level is related to mismanagement by the club, it'll not be a good deal for club like Chelsea to let go of a defender like Koulibaly and have Maguire signed

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July 19, 2023, 10:11:35 PM
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It is still a rumor, we don't know how serious Chelsea to sign Maguire. I even think Chelsea current defenders are better than Maguire. Even if they are not strong enough but they don't score own goals at least.  Cheesy

Harry Maguire is 30 years old, his market value is €20m. No team will spend €40m for Maguire, it is just nonsense to buy a player who has bad performance and he is no longer young defender. Moreover, €40m is overpriced since he is only valued €20m. I assume any club who is interested to sign him for below €10m.
The hype around an English bad player is incredible. Maguire made a lot of mistakes that ripped his team apart and he is still considered that much in market value and people still appreciate him? Foreigners or even national players in other leagues will be humiliated by everyone if they play poorly the way he did. No offence but the defence line was a circus when he play there. I find Chelsea and the other London teams quite crazy to hunt him like that.

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July 19, 2023, 10:22:52 PM
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It is still a rumor, we don't know how serious Chelsea to sign Maguire. I even think Chelsea current defenders are better than Maguire. Even if they are not strong enough but they don't score own goals at least.  Cheesy

Harry Maguire is 30 years old, his market value is €20m. No team will spend €40m for Maguire, it is just nonsense to buy a player who has bad performance and he is no longer young defender. Moreover, €40m is overpriced since he is only valued €20m. I assume any club who is interested to sign him for below €10m.


Chelsea was completely unexpected where they were rumored to be buying Maguire from Manchester United. Even though there are still many other defenders that they can prioritize in this transfer window rather than chasing Maguire. I don't want to see the humor Chelsea makes in this transfer window because they sold a lot of quality players and bought players who didn't perform very well last season.

Chelsea need to bounce back next season and Pochettino needs to be able to bring in younger players to their squad instead of chasing Maguire. Indeed Chelsea have often made signings to their detriment such as Lukaku signing which now he is not included in Pochettino big plans for next season.

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July 19, 2023, 10:34:26 PM
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It is still a rumor, we don't know how serious Chelsea to sign Maguire. I even think Chelsea current defenders are better than Maguire. Even if they are not strong enough but they don't score own goals at least.  Cheesy

Harry Maguire is 30 years old, his market value is €20m. No team will spend €40m for Maguire, it is just nonsense to buy a player who has bad performance and he is no longer young defender. Moreover, €40m is overpriced since he is only valued €20m. I assume any club who is interested to sign him for below €10m.


Chelsea was completely unexpected where they were rumored to be buying Maguire from Manchester United. Even though there are still many other defenders that they can prioritize in this transfer window rather than chasing Maguire. I don't want to see the humor Chelsea makes in this transfer window because they sold a lot of quality players and bought players who didn't perform very well last season.

Chelsea need to bounce back next season and Pochettino needs to be able to bring in younger players to their squad instead of chasing Maguire. Indeed Chelsea have often made signings to their detriment such as Lukaku signing which now he is not included in Pochettino big plans for next season.

A Maguire transfer from Manchester United to Chelsea would be a surprise for several reasons. Maguire had a hard time in Manchester and I think besides the financial aspects he could also be a winner if Chelsea performs well and he can play a part in that success. But if Chelsea fails again, I can already read all the public allegations against the club and those responsible for the transfers because why would they sign players that underperformed when they themselves underperformed and are now trying to recover? Negative times negative is positive? Maguire is a high risk transfer if this really happens as Chelsea doesn't have the time to run some experiments with players who failed elsewhere.

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July 19, 2023, 10:43:03 PM
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Luis Diaz is wanted by a Saudi Arabian team but Liverpool didn't find their offer good enough so they rejected it. However I don't think Diaz is sad about this even a bit. Because he isn't only a very young player to go there but also he has been showing a really impressive performance for Liverpool. There is no meaning in selling him for Liverpool right now.

It is already not easy to fill Mane's place exactly. Diaz is at least trying to be as active as possible in the attacking line. Liverpool should be keeping him this summer.

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July 19, 2023, 10:46:21 PM
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A Maguire transfer from Manchester United to Chelsea would be a surprise for several reasons. Maguire had a hard time in Manchester and I think besides the financial aspects he could also be a winner if Chelsea performs well and he can play a part in that success. But if Chelsea fails again, I can already read all the public allegations against the club and those responsible for the transfers because why would they sign players that underperformed when they themselves underperformed and are now trying to recover? Negative times negative is positive? Maguire is a high risk transfer if this really happens as Chelsea doesn't have the time to run some experiments with players who failed elsewhere.
Maguire does not belong to top defenders and he was over estimated since his transfer from Leicester City to Manchester United. If Chelsea buy him and consider him as an average central defender, it is acceptable for their transfer decision.

I only wonder that does Chelsea actually need such an average central defender to improve their defense quality? Logically they don't need Maguire and they can find better players who have cheaper transfer price and even are younger than Maguire.

Personally I don't see chance for Maguire to move to Chelsea in this summer. He must find average clubs, not top ones like Chelsea.

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July 19, 2023, 10:55:24 PM
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A Maguire transfer from Manchester United to Chelsea would be a surprise for several reasons. Maguire had a hard time in Manchester and I think besides the financial aspects he could also be a winner if Chelsea performs well and he can play a part in that success. But if Chelsea fails again, I can already read all the public allegations against the club and those responsible for the transfers because why would they sign players that underperformed when they themselves underperformed and are now trying to recover? Negative times negative is positive? Maguire is a high risk transfer if this really happens as Chelsea doesn't have the time to run some experiments with players who failed elsewhere.
So that's what surprised me. Chelsea management should not pay special attention to Maguire because this defender is 30 years old. Even if we look at it for now it's better not to do it early than they regret it later. But if Chelsea get it for a cheaper price or 20 million, chances are this won't be a big problem in Maguire transfer. But another thing I want to see from Chelsea is that they sell a lot of players so they have to sign players who can really help make a big contribution to the team next season.

Many observers say that the Maguire era is over because he is 30 years old but his career is sinking so quickly. Maguire has found it difficult to get a main place under the coach of Erik Ten Hag, so Maguire career at Manchester United next season could be a substitute bench player.

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July 19, 2023, 10:56:05 PM
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Chelsea is going to hire a player like Maguire because of his huge personal mistakes and I think a player like Maguire is not really interesting for any team to spend huge money for him and 40m is a lot for this player, Chelsea had expensive players before and they didn't get food results that's why I think Chelsea can find a better player instead of Maguire.
It is still a rumor, we don't know how serious Chelsea to sign Maguire. I even think Chelsea current defenders are better than Maguire. Even if they are not strong enough but they don't score own goals at least.  Cheesy

Maguire has had enough and I think players do have a second chance to prove their worth, there could be some transition if he comes Chelsea to play because been a Captain in Manchester United is a big headache he has to . deal with every week and hence the reason why he is always confused in the field that got him playing own goals most of tbe time but who knows Chelsea will be a revival journey to Maguire to redeem his career, he has come far to become bench in Manchester United, there are other teams that would use him even if there is no Captain tag on his hand.

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Harry Maguire is 30 years old, his market value is €20m. No team will spend €40m for Maguire, it is just nonsense to buy a player who has bad performance and he is no longer young defender. Moreover, €40m is overpriced since he is only valued €20m. I assume any club who is interested to sign him for below €10m.

What about player that had good performing year in their previous clubs but becomes worst when they change their club, we have seen it in the premier league many times and the team just get worse with the hype players, having Maguire will give the team less expectations from him and I believe he will want to step up his ways to impress any club that sign him.

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July 19, 2023, 10:57:39 PM
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After failing to secure the league title last season as new Rivals Manchester City outplayed them and finished top of the table last season, the club has reacted well by investing hugely to boost the squad this summer. Arsenal now have another chance to compete for the league and every silverware next season. As Kai Harvertz has said that he is looking forward to winning a trophy with Arsenal next season.
Arsenal has learnt lessons from their mistakes last season that is why they are spending money to buy players to strengthen their team,  if they had spent money to buy players last season I don't think it would have been too easy for Manchester City to lead the league.  It is difficult to tell If Arsenal can still be lucky to have the same opportunity they had last season in this season, other teams in English Premier league are working to strengthen their squad for the competition.

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July 19, 2023, 10:59:33 PM
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Luis Diaz is wanted by a Saudi Arabian team but Liverpool didn't find their offer good enough so they rejected it. However I don't think Diaz is sad about this even a bit. Because he isn't only a very young player to go there but also he has been showing a really impressive performance for Liverpool. There is no meaning in selling him for Liverpool right now.

It is already not easy to fill Mane's place exactly. Diaz is at least trying to be as active as possible in the attacking line. Liverpool should be keeping him this summer.
Liverpool needs to stop selling their quality players if they really want to remain competitive in the as they were used to. They've already lost players like Roberto Firmino and Jordan Henderson since the end of last season.
Luiz Dias is a very experienced winger who has intimidating attacking skills that he uses to dance past defenders making him a big threat to any defense he's facing. So it'll be totally bad if Liverpool lose him this summer

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July 19, 2023, 11:18:15 PM
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Well Chelsea are one of the closest clubs to getting Maguire. Because currently at the Chelsea club there are very few senior players left. Because Mauricio Pochettino continues to release senior players from Chelsea. So that the figure of Maguire is indeed the most suitable for Chelsea at this time which requires players who are experienced at the back.

But Chelsea are reportedly only going to make an offer worth £40 million to sign Maguire. And considering Manchester United's financial condition, which is not very good at the moment. then I think this price will be a consideration for Man United to let go of Maguire. Maguire no longer has a place at Man United. So I think it's time he should go.

I don’t see the reason why Chelsea will sign a 30 years old player because they lack much of senior players. Are the senior players the only ones in the pitch or they’re the only one that can have effect in the game when they’re much in the pitch? The fact that it is Maguire makes me think that this is just rumor and Chelsea won’t make a mistake of bringing in Maguire to serve as a senior player and example to the younger players. We have seen how his stay as Manchester United went through after he began to play woefully which made them had no choice than to want to part ways with him. He should go get another club to sign for and not Chelsea that are planning to build a stronger squad against next season.

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July 19, 2023, 11:19:03 PM
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Maguire might just do well at the Chelsea defense as he's doing when playing for england.
He may play better in England national team, but I am sure England can play better without him.  Grin
No mate, just don't expect much about him to play well in Chelsea. If there are other options, Chelsea is better to sign other defenders

Players change under the right managers especially defenders. When managers get their pairing wrong it affects players. Did you watch Rudiger play under frank Lampard and Sarri before Sarri left the club and Lampard was sacked (the first time), he was one of the poorest defender I have even seen and wasn't getting playing time because of a flop he was just as Henry Maguire is at Manchester united but then Thomas tuchel came and everything turned around for Rudiger, he was one of the best defender in the premier league at some point and helped Chelsea in lifting the Champions league because our defender were the secret behind our victory that season.

We even sold him to Real Madrid and this was a player we were at some point looking to let go because of how poorly he was performing. I just told you this story for you to understand how vital coaches are to a player. I believe if Henry Maguire meets a coach that can use him to work he'll become a top defender. Let's not forget he wasn't a flop when he was bought so saying he's going to flop if sold is just assumptions. Players change under the right management just as I explained with the Rudiger story. Rudiger has gone on to win another champions league with Real Madrid so don't be surprised if Henry Maguire moves on and become successful as well.
The main point of your entire narrative is that each player's performance within a team solely rests on the coach who oversees the team. Only a skilled coach has the ability to bring out both a player's best and worst qualities. However, before making a definitive choice to sign Maguire, Chelsea must carefully consider all the pros and cons of doing so.
The Chelsea team doesn't require someone to begin regaining his morality and learning effective defensive strategies. The Chelsea team is mostly after quality players for next season. So, for this reason they won't highly go for more quality defender rather than disorganized defenders like Maguire.

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July 19, 2023, 11:28:56 PM
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I'm not sure about Man City having a better chance of winning than, for example, last season.... Of course they are the main ones in the fight for the first place in the standings.... But for example Arsenal last season were leading almost the whole season and only at the end they ran out of energy, but they had a great opportunity to win.... This season Newcastle, Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal again... Man City won't have it easy...
I think last season Manchester city in the epl was very strong even though most of the time arsenal led the standings but in the end they couldn't withstand the strong onslaught that Manchester city did. Next season, Manchester City will still be highly favored in the Premier League to win the championship trophy. But yes, all support may be needed to reach the trophy, one of the core players is kept away from the injury storm because if their key players are injured, it will definitely have a negative impact on their performance next season.

The revival of Manchester United also needs to be watched out for by Manchester city because Manchester city is the team that has collected the most trophies in the EPL. So with the current strength I think they will be ready to compete more strongly with Manchester city in the hunt for trophies next season. Moreover, Manchester United has a strong mentality to become a champion, so Pep Guardiola needs to be aware of this from the revival carried out by Erik Ten Hag. Even on the other hand, I also see that Liverpool is trying to find the best form after the recruitment of players carried out by Liverpool management was quite good in the transfer market. So kloop can definitely bring Liverpool back into the top 4 and hope they can create more attractive competition for Manchester City.

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July 19, 2023, 11:30:13 PM
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I don’t see the reason why Chelsea will sign a 30 years old player because they lack much of senior players. Are the senior players the only ones in the pitch or they’re the only one that can have effect in the game when they’re much in the pitch? The fact that it is Maguire makes me think that this is just rumor and Chelsea won’t make a mistake of bringing in Maguire to serve as a senior player and example to the younger players. We have seen how his stay as Manchester United went through after he began to play woefully which made them had no choice than to want to part ways with him. He should go get another club to sign for and not Chelsea that are planning to build a stronger squad against next season.
30 years is a great age for a defender, when he already has the necessary experience and still has enough strength to play at the maximum. Mauricio Pochettino will probably have the last word, and if Chelsea sign a player, it can only mean one thing that the head coach knows how to neutralize the negative traits of a player and vice versa to use positive traits to the greatest advantage. Unfortunately, it didn't work out for ten Hag and it can't be put in a plus for him, but this does not mean at all that it won't work for Pochettino.
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July 19, 2023, 11:33:15 PM
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It is still a rumor, we don't know how serious Chelsea to sign Maguire. I even think Chelsea current defenders are better than Maguire. Even if they are not strong enough but they don't score own goals at least.  Cheesy
I hope this will never come true. I would like to give 1/10 rating for chelsea's management if the club will be recruiting garbage player like him. The worst sign that's gonna be made by chelsea. Meguire can do nothing. He was very useless in manchester united. Chelsea must not be stupid enough to sign him as a new player.
Meguire shall go to the aston villa rather than chelsea. The most stupid playern in EPL with so many blunders that being made by him. Meguire gonna be a flop for chelsea if this transfer gonna be real.


Harry Maguire is 30 years old, his market value is €20m. No team will spend €40m for Maguire, it is just nonsense to buy a player who has bad performance and he is no longer young defender. Moreover, €40m is overpriced since he is only valued €20m. I assume any club who is interested to sign him for below €10m.
It's not even a team wanna spend 10 million to buy him. I do agree with you if it's a non sense thing to see him being priced so high like that. He shall be worth 5 millions. MU was so crazy by asking 40 millions.
There are great defenders available in the market rather than try to buy him.

This gonna be a very bad story. So many people will be mocking chelsea if this transfer will happen. No more stupid player signed by todd boehly. He's fucking stupid.

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July 19, 2023, 11:33:54 PM
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It is still a rumor, we don't know how serious Chelsea to sign Maguire. I even think Chelsea current defenders are better than Maguire. Even if they are not strong enough but they don't score own goals at least.  Cheesy

Harry Maguire is 30 years old, his market value is €20m. No team will spend €40m for Maguire, it is just nonsense to buy a player who has bad performance and he is no longer young defender. Moreover, €40m is overpriced since he is only valued €20m. I assume any club who is interested to sign him for below €10m.
The hype around an English bad player is incredible. Maguire made a lot of mistakes that ripped his team apart and he is still considered that much in market value and people still appreciate him? Foreigners or even national players in other leagues will be humiliated by everyone if they play poorly the way he did. No offence but the defence line was a circus when he play there. I find Chelsea and the other London teams quite crazy to hunt him like that.

The performance of Harry Maguire at Manchester United is not going to cause me to overreact, but I believe we all know that one of the main reasons for Manchester United to lose some points in the premier league and one of the main reasons for them to lose the game against Sevilla in the Europa League was Maguire. This is why I consider the 40 million dollar deal a lot for a 30-year-old player.

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