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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 41 (45.6%)
Liverpool - 18 (20%)
Arsenal - 24 (26.7%)
Chelsea - 1 (1.1%)
Manchester United - 4 (4.4%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 2 (2.2%)
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November 19, 2023, 12:06:28 PM
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Manchester United only lost once, of course they want to stay focused on keeping it on the winning track,
MU 1 vs 0 Luton (EPL)
Copenhagen 4 vs 3 MU (UCL)
Fulham 0 vs 1 MU (EPL)
MU 0 vs 3 Newcastle (EFL)
MU 0 vs 3 Man City (EPL)


In the last five games, Man United only won twice, and both times it was by a narrow 1-0 score. This suggests that their attack isn't very sharp. However, if you look at their losses, there's always more than 2.5 goals scored. This also proves that Man United's defense is quite vulnerable.

The real evidence is that Man United often wins by a narrow margin, sometimes just one goal, which could be considered lucky victories. How long can they rely on their luck? That's what makes me doubtful about the match against Everton... it seems like MU won't get a positive result at Goodison Park.

What do you expect when you have the likes of Marcus Rashford leading the attack? United attackers lack the consistency needed to be truly world class and there is urgent need to work on their finishing as they often miss chances that they should be putting away. One area that I think is particularly important for the Manchester United attackers is their decision making in the opposite box. Too often, they take the wrong option or make the wrong passes leading to missed opportunities. Rashford to be precise will waste more than five chances before he'll manage to convert one into a goal.

The Manchester United defense is certainly an area that needs improvement as well because in particular, the team needs to work on their organization and communication. They often look disjointed and vulnerable to counter attacks. They also need to improve their individual defending, as some players make too many mistakes. Yes, I'm referring to Harry Maguire here although he's been improve in their recent matches and I hope he maintains the performance.











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November 19, 2023, 12:11:52 PM
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It seems the situation for some teams in the Premier League is not good at all because, after the financial issues Everton had, they lost ten points while there is some other news about Chelsea and Macnshter City.
Everton broke some rules and according to some news, Chelsea and Manchester City broke more rules and there is even a chance for them to get relegated.



https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/nov/17/premier-league-financial-fair-play-everton-manchester-city-chelsea

Regarding the City, this is not news, but a continuation of a long-term case that the League for some reason cannot investigate, they “lack the authority.” It sounds crazy because they can punish Everton, but for some reason they cannot punish City, who are accused of 115 FFP violations (and, as I understand it, not only that). But due to some procedural issues, the League allegedly cannot punish City  Grin

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November 19, 2023, 12:54:46 PM
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This is terrible news for Manchester United. In addition to the injured players, now is Onana, will it be possible for Manchester to make it to the top? He has shown enough effort since he started goalkeeping at the beginning of the season, and Ten Hag's decision to not use the second goalkeeper, he have much believe in him, this will give Altay Bayindir another chance to start. The majority of fans have been criticizing Onana's performance, claiming that he is not a good goalkeeper. During their upcoming games, they will be able to determine whether or not this was his fault. This is the reason why some players dislike playing for their country in international competitions; because you can get injure easily. I therefore cannot blame any players for not representing their country.
All Manchester United matches in this season, Erik ten Hag always believe with Andre Onana indeed have to play in EFL Cup as not priority competition but never give chance for second goal keeper. I think bad decision with Erik ten Hag always trusted with Andre Onana although is not wrong but playing with not favorite competition such as EFL Cup they have use second goal keeper. Actually I disagree with many people criticizing with Andre Onana performance although he was conceded many goals but don't forget with how many saves made.

Manchester United lack ness with defensive and Erik ten Hag have looking new option by signing top defender if want Andre Onana conceded many goals again in Premier League or Champion League. After break out, Manchester United will face Everton and waiting with Andre Onana will continue clean sheet trend or not.

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November 19, 2023, 01:23:42 PM
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I was thinking on Sunday how come it is possible for Chelsea to have won most or all duels in the midfield,I forgot about these two great players that made up a huge chunk of Manchester City success and I fully believe in that saying in football,your midfield either wins you games or lose you games,showing the importance of this department of the team,for me being the most important in the team,just look at all the glorious teams through the years not only here in Premier League but also other leagues and you will see super performing teams had always the best midfield.

I get what you mean when you say that the midfield is the most important part. I think it depends on the team's style. But the saying, if I recall that correctly, usually goes like this:

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“Attack wins you games, defence wins you titles.”
and I believe it is from Alex Ferguson. I think that statement makes a lot of sense. There are some clubs that have been extremely successful because they had the strongest defense in the league. Atletico Madrid, Juventus Turin for some years and others as well.

But the midfield is the most important part for Manchester City because Guardiola trains his players so they can fill several positions at once and be more flexible than any other team. He likes to have have defensive midfielders, central midfielders and offensive midfielders and he likes defenders with midfielding qualities. Smiley This means for Guardiola the midfield is definitely the most important part of his team. I think that is also why they are having some difficulties recently.

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November 19, 2023, 01:29:03 PM
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All Manchester United matches in this season, Erik ten Hag always believe with Andre Onana indeed have to play in EFL Cup as not priority competition but never give chance for second goal keeper. I think bad decision with Erik ten Hag always trusted with Andre Onana although is not wrong but playing with not favorite competition such as EFL Cup they have use second goal keeper. Actually I disagree with many people criticizing with Andre Onana performance although he was conceded many goals but don't forget with how many saves made.
They did made some bad decisions like did not sign a new contract with David De Gea, spent massive money to buy Onana, did not spend enough money for a central defender position to improve the heart area of their defense system.

De Gea is a good goalkeeper in saving skills and he loves Manchester United after many years there. If Manchester United and Ten Hag were more cleverly, they would have been kept De Gea in their club and use him as an alternative goalkeeper for Onana. I believe De Gea will accept that position as so far he did not join any club.

Onana is over rated because he has better passing skills than De Gea but in general, combining all skills of a goalkeeper, I think he is not a better goalkeeper than De Gea. Hopefully Ten Hag will not have to pay an expensive cost by his coach position because of his belief in Onana.

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November 19, 2023, 01:35:19 PM
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It seems the situation for some teams in the Premier League is not good at all because, after the financial issues Everton had, they lost ten points while there is some other news about Chelsea and Macnshter City.
Everton broke some rules and according to some news, Chelsea and Manchester City broke more rules and there is even a chance for them to get relegated.

Regarding the City, this is not news, but a continuation of a long-term case that the League for some reason cannot investigate, they “lack the authority.” It sounds crazy because they can punish Everton, but for some reason they cannot punish City, who are accused of 115 FFP violations (and, as I understand it, not only that). But due to some procedural issues, the League allegedly cannot punish City  Grin
Strange enough, but this is what happens Man City will be untouched by sanctions. We don't care how big this club is when the investigators just distort the facts, it means there is something wrong behind all this. Man city clearly did it, Chelsea are the same, Everton are guilty but ... oh shit  Grin this is the game on top of the Premier League football game that can no longer be trusted. 

The reputation of the Premier League is at stake if it lets Man City and Chelsea off the hook. Black or white must be enforced. Other suspicions will arise and we will conclude that there are many league parties who have stumbled.

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November 19, 2023, 01:38:35 PM
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Onana is over rated because he has better passing skills than De Gea but in general, combining all skills of a goalkeeper, I think he is not a better goalkeeper than De Gea. Hopefully Ten Hag will not have to pay an expensive cost by his coach position because of his belief in Onana.
I keep hearing that Onana is good with his feet and that he can pass the ball, but TBH i don't see that when i watch Manchester United's games, he is average in his usage of his feet and his passing accuracy, he is nothing close to the likes of Ederson of City and Allison of Liverpool when it comes to passing accuracy.

That being said, Onana is not a great goalkeeper IMO, average at best, and i think United made a mistake letting De Gea go, the Spanish keeper is better than Onana, De Gea makes unbelievable saves, even though he makes quite a few mistakes too, as for Onana, he doesn't make great saves, but still makes mistakes leading to goals; i'll take De Gea anyday.

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November 19, 2023, 01:53:31 PM
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It seems the situation for some teams in the Premier League is not good at all because, after the financial issues Everton had, they lost ten points while there is some other news about Chelsea and Macnshter City.
Everton broke some rules and according to some news, Chelsea and Manchester City broke more rules and there is even a chance for them to get relegated.



https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/nov/17/premier-league-financial-fair-play-everton-manchester-city-chelsea

Regarding the City, this is not news, but a continuation of a long-term case that the League for some reason cannot investigate, they “lack the authority.” It sounds crazy because they can punish Everton, but for some reason they cannot punish City, who are accused of 115 FFP violations (and, as I understand it, not only that). But due to some procedural issues, the League allegedly cannot punish City  Grin

Manchester city's backed by oil's money. How can EPL punish this club? Money is talking much in this case. Manchester city has been breaching the rules many times. This is the power of money. City should be sanctioned since the previous seasons but nothing happened with city.
more than 100 FFP violations were so crazy but what can we do to fight oil's money? The power of money is real. Im not being skeptical with it but i just try to realize the fact that if these days money = power.

A club that has low money meant it has less power too compared with the club that has been owned by an owner which has unlimited amounts of money. It's crazy to see city breaching FFP rules for years then no sanction.

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November 19, 2023, 02:15:01 PM
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Onana is over rated because he has better passing skills than De Gea but in general, combining all skills of a goalkeeper, I think he is not a better goalkeeper than De Gea. Hopefully Ten Hag will not have to pay an expensive cost by his coach position because of his belief in Onana.
I keep hearing that Onana is good with his feet and that he can pass the ball, but TBH i don't see that when i watch Manchester United's games, he is average in his usage of his feet and his passing accuracy, he is nothing close to the likes of Ederson of City and Allison of Liverpool when it comes to passing accuracy.

That being said, Onana is not a great goalkeeper IMO, average at best, and i think United made a mistake letting De Gea go, the Spanish keeper is better than Onana, De Gea makes unbelievable saves, even though he makes quite a few mistakes too, as for Onana, he doesn't make great saves, but still makes mistakes leading to goals; i'll take De Gea anyday.

Being a goalkeeper it will be about his ability to secure the goal, not about passing. If they want players who are good at passing, then such targets should be delegated to other players and not goalkeepers. Funny I guess, recruiting a goalkeeper just to get a goalkeeper who has a good pass, but in his main task as a goalkeeper in fact does not have good quality. LOL! It doesn't matter about passing, and it doesn't matter whether Onana or De Gea is better because after all, as a goalkeeper it must have good skills in playing as a goalkeeper, because they are goalkeepers and not players who have the task of making passes or assists.

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November 19, 2023, 02:30:11 PM
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Onana is over rated because he has better passing skills than De Gea but in general, combining all skills of a goalkeeper, I think he is not a better goalkeeper than De Gea. Hopefully Ten Hag will not have to pay an expensive cost by his coach position because of his belief in Onana.
I keep hearing that Onana is good with his feet and that he can pass the ball, but TBH i don't see that when i watch Manchester United's games, he is average in his usage of his feet and his passing accuracy, he is nothing close to the likes of Ederson of City and Allison of Liverpool when it comes to passing accuracy.
It is also worth noting that Onana has lost some amount of confidence since he joined Manchester United. And this has affected everything about his performance. If we take a look at his performance in Inter Milan, I don't think we would doubt that the Cameroonian international is very good with his feet. As the Manchester United squad keeps improving we might also see Onana giving that his masterclass passes..

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That being said, Onana is not a great goalkeeper IMO, average at best, and i think United made a mistake letting De Gea go, the Spanish keeper is better than Onana, De Gea makes unbelievable saves, even though he makes quite a few mistakes too, as for Onana, he doesn't make great saves, but still makes mistakes leading to goals; i'll take De Gea anyday.
Manchester United is going through a lot of problems and we cannot say that its players are having a good time. When a team is not doing well, it is the goalkeeper that most times bears the negative effect. Onana is still young and needs more time to gain experience and exposure. De Gea is 33 and has played more games than the 27-year-old Onana. I still have confidence that Onana will soon get used to the EPL and United will know that his signing is not a blunder.

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November 19, 2023, 02:32:20 PM
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I was quite curious when I heard that Everton had been sanctioned and then a club like Man City seemed immune to sanctions. Why is the federation still not interested in bringing up violations of which there are said to be around 115 allegations. Maybe it just because Man City is a big club with unlimited finances or is the strongest team a winner of the trophy? In a short time less than a week the news appeared and Everton position was immediately in second place at the bottom of the standings. Back to Man City accusations which have not been brought up for a long time. 2009/10 and 2017/18 have these become sanctions beats and have detrimental impacts? Happening more than nine seasons should be enough for points to be deducted and could be even more severe.

You can ask premier league directly. They are the only party who know the main reason why they were not even giving sanction to the manchester city. Many people have been questioning this but they have forgot it. It seems like that the this case will not be touching another club.
Everton has been sanctioned and it will be finished. There will be no continuation to happen. i meant manchester city and chelsea have been suspecting to violate FFP rules many times.
I think that people will forget it with the goes of time. Many people are waiting for the further action. I remember that EPL has been investigating chelsea and manchester city. As long as there will always be a corruption.
There will be no fair to happen. Manchester city was a rich club unlike everton. You will not see manchester city to be sanctioned caused by it will give huge impact to them.

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November 19, 2023, 02:33:06 PM
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Another sad thing for Manchester United is about their goalkeeper and it seems the nightmare for Ten Haf is not going to end because this goalkeeper is injured.
In the game between Cameroon and Mauritius, Onana got injured and this is bad news for a team like Manchester United because they had enough problems and now they have an injured goalkeeper which can definitely damage the team.
He is going to be probably absent against Everton. Also, there is even the possibility for Onana to be out for four months but



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12765775/Man-United-injury-Andre-Onana-Everton-Cameroon.html

This is perhaps not as big a problem as it seems. Onana was often criticized for his performance. Second goalkeeper Altay Bayindir might get a chance to play and make Manchester United happy with his performance. He is young and a good goalkeeper. I think Erik ten Hag should give him a chance. On the other hand, Onana will get some rest. He has gone through a psychologically difficult period because he has been criticized a lot lately. After some rest he can come back stronger. We all know his successful performance at Inter. And we are sure he will repeat the same success at Manchester United.
However, on the other hand, Andre Onana must be worried that his place will be taken by Altay Bayindir and this will be the debut that the Red Devils' second goalkeeper has been waiting for. But it is reported that Andre Onana's injury is not that serious and he will be fit again for Manchester United's upcoming match. However, even though there is positive news like that, I am still not sure that Erik ten Hag will take him down and would rather wait for his recovery first. The upcoming match will be against Everton and it should not be a difficult match without Andre Onana.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1725955589346631851
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November 19, 2023, 02:43:38 PM
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Onana is over rated because he has better passing skills than De Gea but in general, combining all skills of a goalkeeper, I think he is not a better goalkeeper than De Gea. Hopefully Ten Hag will not have to pay an expensive cost by his coach position because of his belief in Onana.
André Onana is overhyped goalkeeper simply because his passing are accurate unlike David De Gea who's terrible at giving passes to his teammates. Manchester United are tol focused on the passing more than the brilliant saves made by David De Gea, who have been in the club for years and definitely knows how everything are done. He's capable and have saved Manchester United countless times but I don't think André Onana can be able to fill in the shoes of David De Gea, even though he's given more years, he can not represent the team's to his fullest capacity.

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November 19, 2023, 02:56:42 PM
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Onana is over rated because he has better passing skills than De Gea but in general, combining all skills of a goalkeeper, I think he is not a better goalkeeper than De Gea. Hopefully Ten Hag will not have to pay an expensive cost by his coach position because of his belief in Onana.
André Onana is overhyped goalkeeper simply because his passing are accurate unlike David De Gea who's terrible at giving passes to his teammates. Manchester United are tol focused on the passing more than the brilliant saves made by David De Gea, who have been in the club for years and definitely knows how everything are done. He's capable and have saved Manchester United countless times but I don't think André Onana can be able to fill in the shoes of David De Gea, even though he's given more years, he can not represent the team's to his fullest capacity.
Modern football requires a goalkeeper who can build attacks from the ground with his accurate passing. But what happened to Machester United is that they neglected the things that a goalkeeper should have, namely good reflexes and also a good reading of the direction of the ball, and that is now not shown by Onana.
I would largely agree and say the same thing about Manchester United, which is that they have made a mistake in discarding David de Gea, although his weakness is not having good passing, in my opinion it is a weakness that can be corrected.

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November 19, 2023, 03:02:19 PM
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Modern football requires a goalkeeper who can build attacks from the ground with his accurate passing. But what happened to Machester United is that they neglected the things that a goalkeeper should have, namely good reflexes and also a good reading of the direction of the ball, and that is now not shown by Onana.
I would largely agree and say the same thing about Manchester United, which is that they have made a mistake in discarding David de Gea, although his weakness is not having good passing, in my opinion it is a weakness that can be corrected.
Build up isn't a must for goalkeeper, it's a must for defensive midfielder. Manchester United don't have enough good defenders to use that strategy, even Bayern Munich that having strong defenders yet still struggle when they have a bad goalkeeper.

Ten Hag don't have a vision, he don't know which player is good and fit with Manchester United's players.

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November 19, 2023, 03:12:46 PM
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I did not say that Manchester United does not sack their head coach when they are not producing the results they are paid for but they give them time to see enough reason for sacking them. If Erick Ten Hag was Chelsea's head coach by now he could have been sacked by Chelsea. I see Manchester United giving Erick Ten Hag till January to buy some quality players that will help him fix the problems in Manchester United's squad, but if he fails to turn things around in Manchester United after the January transfer window, I think Manchester United has no choice but to sack he.
Erick Ten Hag should be able to take advantage of the time that Manchester United has given him at this time before the Manchester United team fires him for quite logical reasons. Because in the transfer window all teams will probably move to get great players to make the team stronger, so Manchester United also needs to provide more funds for this if they still want to hunt for great players for their own team. So Erick Ten Hag must be able to take advantage of the current moment for the good of his career at Manchester United.

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November 19, 2023, 03:13:35 PM
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It is also worth noting that Onana has lost some amount of confidence since he joined Manchester United. And this has affected everything about his performance. If we take a look at his performance in Inter Milan, I don't think we would doubt that the Cameroonian international is very good with his feet. As the Manchester United squad keeps improving we might also see Onana giving that his masterclass passes..
The fans need to give Onana a little chance to give his best for his chance to develop at the Red Devils, of course a little patience to find confidence again from being down after joining the Red Devils, and it's very different when Bermian was at Inter Milan, in fact he played very impressively so everyone needs the process of returning to his best form, has been very visible from the several occasions that Onana has played in several important matches for the Red Devils, sometimes defenders and goalkeepers have to have the same chemistry to secure the ball, but it is very clear that in several important matches they don't So visible this season for the Red Devils..

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November 19, 2023, 03:18:40 PM
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I was quite curious when I heard that Everton had been sanctioned and then a club like Man City seemed immune to sanctions. Why is the federation still not interested in bringing up violations of which there are said to be around 115 allegations. Maybe it just because Man City is a big club with unlimited finances or is the strongest team a winner of the trophy? In a short time less than a week the news appeared and Everton position was immediately in second place at the bottom of the standings. Back to Man City accusations which have not been brought up for a long time. 2009/10 and 2017/18 have these become sanctions beats and have detrimental impacts? Happening more than nine seasons should be enough for points to be deducted and could be even more severe.

You can ask premier league directly. They are the only party who know the main reason why they were not even giving sanction to the manchester city. Many people have been questioning this but they have forgot it. It seems like that the this case will not be touching another club.
Everton has been sanctioned and it will be finished. There will be no continuation to happen. i meant manchester city and chelsea have been suspecting to violate FFP rules many times.
I think that people will forget it with the goes of time. Many people are waiting for the further action. I remember that EPL has been investigating chelsea and manchester city. As long as there will always be a corruption.
There will be no fair to happen. Manchester city was a rich club unlike everton. You will not see manchester city to be sanctioned caused by it will give huge impact to them.
When talking about violations, the process will be very difficult, and the stages leading up to a decision are also very many. There are many reviews that must be fulfilled before sanctions are actually imposed, in this case on Everton. I think Everton will appeal to ask for justice for the sanctions they received.

Indirectly, the sanctions received by Everton made the management of Manchester City and Chelsea afraid. However, it must be admitted that Manchester City management managed to avoid sanctions and took advantage of legal loopholes by filing an appeal at the high court of arbitration, so that the 115 charges that were addressed to them were withdrawn and replaced with fines.

Similar to City, Chelsea management actually reported FFP violations themselves to the Premier League organizers, which was done during the Abramovich period. But so far the two clubs have not received any sanctions, and we will never know the details regarding the continuation of the results of the investigation into violations committed by City and Chelsea.

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November 19, 2023, 03:35:39 PM
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The fans need to give Onana a little chance to give his best for his chance to develop at the Red Devils, of course a little patience to find confidence again from being down after joining the Red Devils, and it's very different when Bermian was at Inter Milan, in fact he played very impressively so everyone needs the process of returning to his best form, has been very visible from the several occasions that Onana has played in several important matches for the Red Devils, sometimes defenders and goalkeepers have to have the same chemistry to secure the ball, but it is very clear that in several important matches they don't So visible this season for the Red Devils..
Of course he should be giving a chance to prove his worth because is obvious that he has seriously improved in performance lately unlike his early time on Manchester United when he was finding it very difficult to perform due to the fact that he was new and not use to the club method of playing which I believe is normal for any goalkeeper who finds himself on a new club so is obvious that before he could plend to the pattern of the team will take some time.

But now Onana has started proving himself that he is a good goalkeeper because considering there past matches he has save Manchester United several times so I believe that if they give him some more time he is going to explore more of his potential to Manchester United so perhaps I'm beginning to see the good performance in him.


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November 19, 2023, 03:42:23 PM
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Erick Ten Hag should be able to take advantage of the time that Manchester United has given him at this time before the Manchester United team fires him for quite logical reasons. Because in the transfer window all teams will probably move to get great players to make the team stronger, so Manchester United also needs to provide more funds for this if they still want to hunt for great players for their own team. So Erick Ten Hag must be able to take advantage of the current moment for the good of his career at Manchester United.

The thing is, it's not easy at all. However, Ten Hag has proven it last season. Only this time it's different, the United camp was really having problems both inside and outside. One by one, problems came to them, starting with the acquisition of a club which had an impact on the club's management, limited spending budget, several players who were having problems with each other personally, both Antony with his case, Sancho with his coach, several players who started to be undisciplined and also selfish. Plus, many players were injured. In the end, Ten Hag had difficulty restoring the performance of his team's squad.

Naturally, any coach with conditions like this would have quite a hard time getting his team back. at the very least, he takes time and solves his problems one by one. So, it's not that Ten Hag was unable to take advantage of time and momentum. As a coach, especially as Ten Hag is known for his hard work and discipline, he will always try to optimize his team's squad. Unfortunately, it's not easy, especially as new problems always arise. moreover, which related bad rumors about him and several players.

I think if United finally fires the coach, it won't take long for him to find a new club which is also a big team. After all, its performance has been proven. although in some cases, Ten Hag made blunders. and for me it's natural, because no matter what, mistakes will always be there.

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