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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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November 18, 2023, 02:21:32 PM
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Everton have been at the bottom of the standings for a few years now and at the end of every season they are fighting to stay in the EPL... These 10 points are very important for them because they have 14 points from 12 games... So now they are in danger of not being able to climb out of the relegation zone before the end of the season...
Everton is not really much in a good form this season but considering there performance on few of there matches they have made some good improvement because there last eleven matches they have actually win the average of six matches from the 11 matches they have played.

Although they are almost at the bottom of the premier League table, which is very bad for them this season but however they really need to work on there team if possible buy some more quality players to enable them come back next season with a good performance.

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November 18, 2023, 02:35:15 PM
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It seems that not only Everton are being punished with points deductions, but I see rumors that Chelsea and Manchester City are also being threatened with this punishment, but we'll see if these rumors are true.

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This punishment will definitely make Everton devastated because they have to suffer the unfortunate fate that now the points they have been collecting have to be cut short due to the punishment they have to face and Everton have to fight again to secured their position in order to remain in the English league, hopefully Everton can get up and fight in the remaining matches they will face and catch up.

Do you really believe that any of the big clubs will be punished? Everton received a punishment for one incident, while City are charged with 115. If even half of the claims are proven to be true, then City should be stripped of all their titles for many years and sent to the Championship. But for some reason I think that City will not be punished even for one episode out of 115  Grin
or maybe because Man City is a big team with more money to escape this punishment? ah, my mind seems to be getting dirty. Roll Eyes
I fully support you, no matter how bad things have been done, Man City will not receive this punishment and it would be very funny if that could happen and Man City would be stripped of the title.

Its truly terrible to see Everton having to receive this punishment, even though if you investigate all the possibilities, its not just Everton, however, this is like drama that has happened to teams in other leagues.

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November 18, 2023, 02:45:18 PM
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Everton have been at the bottom of the standings for a few years now and at the end of every season they are fighting to stay in the EPL... These 10 points are very important for them because they have 14 points from 12 games... So now they are in danger of not being able to climb out of the relegation zone before the end of the season...
Everton is not really much in a good form this season but considering there performance on few of there matches they have made some good improvement because there last eleven matches they have actually win the average of six matches from the 11 matches they have played.

Although they are almost at the bottom of the premier League table, which is very bad for them this season but however they really need to work on there team if possible buy some more quality players to enable them come back next season with a good performance.
Toffees were already at the bottom of the list and now, after the fine, they were completely down at the bottom. If it weren't for the fine, nothing good would have come their way anyway. Yes, there was a lot of effort and it’s very disappointing to receive such a large fine, 10 points is really a lot...
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November 18, 2023, 02:47:39 PM
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Of course, because it is basically very unlikely if they can balance the game and also maximize their performancee by relying on only 9 players, as you said it was really a  big disaster for Tottenham and there was no luck at all for them there. And also of course it was a very surprising match especially for their fans, everyone would not have  thought that the team that could initially perform very well by being able to dominate the top of the standings in a time that I think can be said to be quite long with the tight competition in the top five but instead experienced such bad things, this is really unexpected.

Basically every team will definitely experience changes, whether it's getting better or getting worse, this season we have seen how Tottenham appeared surprising with an unusual performance, but yes it only lasted a short time, and I think it's time for Tottenham to return to the initial phase as usual, because obviously in the next match against Wolves it turns out they still can't prove by winning the full three points. I think consistency is the beginning of their decline, they can't maintain their good form,  and honestly for the next time I can't be sure whether Tottenham will be able to stay in the top five until the end of the season or drop again to 7/8.
Tottenham first defeat to Chelsea and then to Wolves made us assume that tottenham could only survive for a relatively short time in maintaining their best form. A storm of injuries has also hit tottenham players, so their suffering will last quite a continues time if tottenham do not succeed in coming back against Aston Villa. On the other hand, maybe tottenham will have the same fate as last season where they were in the top 4 in the middle of the season but at the end of the season they closed the season outside the top 4.
Maybe Son will not be able to play more impressively if he is not supported by Maddison in the upcoming match because Maddison suffered an injury against chelsea.

Yes, at first I also thought that maybe the defeat to Chelsea was a natural mistake because they played carelessly so that they could lose two players in one match with a red card which was certainly the starting point of the defeat. Initially I did not think too much of them and I considered that there was no luck at all in that match for Tottenham, but it turned out that when we saw the results they achieved in the next match against Wolves it was still the same, defeat had to continue to follow them. So with this I think it's enough to conclude that this is Tottenham's last hurrah from their unexpectedly impressive performance with the many problems that are now the starting point of their downfall.

Now there is still one match to confirm whether they have really lost their impressive performance or not, namely the match against Aston Villa, Aston Villa is right below them by being in the top five and also the difference between these two teams is very thin, if Tottenham ends up losing again in this match, then it is clear in general I will conclude that Tottenham has returned to difficult times. It is predicted that Maddison will be injured until early next year, and of course with this, Son will not be able to perform optimally, because these two players have always been able to work well together in previous matches, and this will be a big problem.

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November 18, 2023, 02:49:43 PM
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Even though Manchester United is often criticized for their less than consistent performances, it seems they are doing a good job by recording 5 wins with the highest points. When compared with other teams such as Liverpool and Manchester City, the difference is only small, but at least Manchester United have had better results in some of these matches. Apart from that, it is a fact that Manchester United had an easy match against a team that they should have been able to beat and that is why they got the highest points in this result compared to other teams. Another fact is that they are still in 6th position so far, it is undeniable and Erik ten Hag still has a long way to go to shorten the difference in points in the standings from his competitors.

Because they are still in a position where they can move up to a different spot if they play well in their upcoming games, Manchester United still has a chance to compete in the Champions League the following season. Although the team is not in good shape right now and this is not the first time we have seen a team that didn't perform well, they know how to play and I still think they are the best team in the Premier League. Chelsea's current performance is worse than that of Manchester United's from the previous season, primarily due to their matches against Arsenal and Manchester City, both of which Chelsea cannot defeat.

The only issue I have with Manchester United is their coach, Erik Teg Hag, who is responsible for the team's current look. During the player transfer window, the coach performed admirably, bringing in quality players who will help the team advance. However, purchasing Casemiro and Amrabat is a bad move for Manchester United, as the team needs younger players. Additionally, the coach's treatment of certain players is also questionable; Sancho did not deserve to be treated that way. As a coach, you should also know how to communicate with your players, as they are the most important members of the team.

I guess, Manchester united coach is working seriously to end the mistakes for not listening to their players complain that is causing more crisis and is not making the team to make progress like the way other teams are making progress in this summer. If you look at the Manchester united results last season, you will know that Erik Ten Hag is a potential coach because he was able to move Manchester united from poor performance to excellence performance despite they ended up in top 4 but Many people honor Erik Ten Hag for the good job.

I believe Erik Ten Hag will learn his lesson from the past games for not able to communicate to his players during the game like the way other coach does to their players, and I have assurance that Manchester united will win their next game to beat their opponent 3:1 for the favour of Manchester united.

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November 18, 2023, 02:52:39 PM
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Some of the fans are concluding based on emotions, which is very wrong because emotions can never lead you to say the truth. But truth be told, Manchester United is too big for Ten Hag, which is why he is not able to put things in place to bring the best result for Manchester United; some fans were able to understand, while others are still arguing blindly that he is a good coach that will bring victory back to Old Trafford.

Ten Hag actually tried last season to win a trophy for United, but his thinking ability as a coach is not world-class thinking because, from his way of substitution, he is not proving himself as world-class coach due to some errors he does make, which he usually refers to as tactics whenever he is doing his post-match conference. Manchester United need to sack Ten Hag for them to become the world-class team they used to be.

If you feel like Manchester United is too big for Erik Ten Hag to handle, then eh mate,  take your CV and go do a better job than he's currently doing. I can't even wrap my head around a manager that would do a good job right now. ( Not Zizou, Maybe Hansi Flick would be peng )

He is the number one manager for Manchester United to have more wins in his first fifty games. You should also go check about Sir Alex Ferguson, he was pressured in the same way during his early coaching days for Manchester United.
Just so you know, Sir Alex Ferguson and the board members of Manchester United are fully backing Erik Ten Hag for the job. The results he had last season displayed if he has the right tools he'll use them well.
There is a level you get to and the the elasticity breaks. For how long will Erik Ten Hag enjoy the backing of Sir Alex Ferguson and other top executives at the club. I think ETH knows if the results are not forthcoming, he will get fired. Manchester United have not been convincing this season, they are on the verge of being knocked out of the champions league. One can easily say Manchester United have been wining matches based on luck. I think if Manchester United change owners, there is a huge possible that the new owner may show ETH the exit door.


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November 18, 2023, 02:53:05 PM
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Everton have been at the bottom of the standings for a few years now and at the end of every season they are fighting to stay in the EPL... These 10 points are very important for them because they have 14 points from 12 games... So now they are in danger of not being able to climb out of the relegation zone before the end of the season...
There is no threat too early for Everton because this season is still very long. There are the next 26 matches that could see Everton return to mid-table or enter the top 10 because perhaps all the teams above them will slip due to changes in their form of play. I'm sure the points deduction they received will affect the team and its form, but they have to recover and get into good form in each of the next games. After all, this is not the end of everything for them and honestly they will learn a lot from their mistakes from now on.

Everton's performance in the last two seasons has indeed declined and they tend to struggle hard at the bottom to avoid relegation. Of course, they have to be very careful if they don't want to be relegated this season, especially after getting 10 points deducted for their mistake.

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November 18, 2023, 02:55:34 PM
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Future Manchester United owner Jim Ratcliffe wants to bring former manager Ferguson back to the team.
They are preparing a place for him in working with transfers.
He can help the team a lot.
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November 18, 2023, 02:59:35 PM
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I actually highly doubt that Manchester United is going to find themselves at the top of the table towards the end of the season. I genuinely doubt that because the coach has definitely tried a lot to bring in good results. He has tried different tactics, but nothing seems to actually work. And at this point, if Manchester United fans actually do not understand that the coach is just not as good as they are thinking, I have to say it is Copium. They need to change the current coach that they have. But for some reason, it feels like they are just too dumb to accept the fact. Of course, there are always going to be problems in the squad. But that does not mean their results are going to be that bad.

Manchester United problem is just too hard to get grasp on, you will feel it is from the coach and sometimes you might as well think it is from the players, but whoever amongst the two is the cause of their problem, it is not good for the team. With the way they are playing, they don’t seem optimistic to go far in this league this season, not even a top four spot is guaranteed for them yet because of how poorly and inconsistent they play recently. They are having a bad time in the champions league and also having the same in the premier league which is not a good sign and a very highly dissatisfied result from Eric Ten Hag. If he was a manager at Chelsea, he would have been sacked by now. Let him try and improve the team before it is too late for him.

This punishment will definitely make Everton devastated because they have to suffer the unfortunate fate that now the points they have been collecting have to be cut short due to the punishment they have to face and Everton have to fight again to secured their position in order to remain in the English league, hopefully Everton can get up and fight in the remaining matches they will face and catch up.

This will a very huge devastating news to them, it will definitely shock them and feel weakened. For a team like Everton who have been struggling in the premier League recently will just make their performance deteriorate the more after this point was deducted. They are now 4 points on the table and on 19th position after 10 points was deducted from their total points. This team also suffered to escape relegation last season and they are now in the relegation zone again. 10 points is not a small point to get back with the way the premier league has become very competitive to even win a match. I hope they get over it soon and the point reduction should serve as an encouragement for them to do more in their remaining matches to be played.

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I don’t think Ten Hag will be worried about losing his job at this time in the season. Results are turning in their favor whether we think it’s impressive or not. The champions league may be the deal breaker, it will be really bad if they are knocked out of every competition. That will be a red flag for ETH to leave. Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to make some changes to the club, he has already told Ten Hag to sort his issues with Sancho. It’s left to Ten Hag to bury the hatchet with Sancho and do his best to assure the new owner of his ability to deliver
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November 18, 2023, 03:17:13 PM
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Its hard for me not to feel sorry for Everton right now. Its hard to see a team get punished so badly for making mistakes with money. It feels like all of their hard work for those 14 points has been wasted now that 10 points have been taken away. I get the need for rules, but this seems a bit harsh, especially when you hear that bigger clubs like Manchester City are also being investigated in the same way but arent facing any instant consequences. Seriously, I hope Everton can get through this rough patch.

In the second line, its clear that things are very bad for Everton. They really suffered when they fell into the relegation zone, especially since they were doing pretty well before the penalty. As they try to get back points against both strong and weak teams, it will be hard for them. I just hope that they can keep going and find the strength to do so. These events could either break them or make them better as a team. It will be clear in due time.
Everton have been docked 10 points, the heaviest punishment ever handed to any EPL side, for breaching financial rules, leading them down to the relegation zone of the EPL log, the severity of the punishment surprised Everton, who feel a sporting sanction for what they believe is a disagreement over accountancy interpretations is unjust and they would want to appeal, the decision has put into focus other Premier League clubs  investigations and how those clubs will be dealt with if also found guilty.

 Both Manchester City and Chelsea are being tried and could face more worst sanctions than that of Everton, well with this crazy sanction, I think it could kill the morale of the team and make them struggle more because this is so heartbreaking but the team needs to play with hopes of the verdict being overturned.

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November 18, 2023, 03:38:25 PM
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Its hard for me not to feel sorry for Everton right now. Its hard to see a team get punished so badly for making mistakes with money. It feels like all of their hard work for those 14 points has been wasted now that 10 points have been taken away. I get the need for rules, but this seems a bit harsh, especially when you hear that bigger clubs like Manchester City are also being investigated in the same way but arent facing any instant consequences. Seriously, I hope Everton can get through this rough patch.

In the second line, its clear that things are very bad for Everton. They really suffered when they fell into the relegation zone, especially since they were doing pretty well before the penalty. As they try to get back points against both strong and weak teams, it will be hard for them. I just hope that they can keep going and find the strength to do so. These events could either break them or make them better as a team. It will be clear in due time.
Everton have been docked 10 points, the heaviest punishment ever handed to any EPL side, for breaching financial rules, leading them down to the relegation zone of the EPL log, the severity of the punishment surprised Everton, who feel a sporting sanction for what they believe is a disagreement over accountancy interpretations is unjust and they would want to appeal, the decision has put into focus other Premier League clubs  investigations and how those clubs will be dealt with if also found guilty.

 Both Manchester City and Chelsea are being tried and could face more worst sanctions than that of Everton, well with this crazy sanction, I think it could kill the morale of the team and make them struggle more because this is so heartbreaking but the team needs to play with hopes of the verdict being overturned.
I feel for Everton losing a whooping 10 points off their total points due to financial rule breach now 19th on the table, however I was surprised with Everton hastily got punished while clubs like Man City and Chelsea cases still lingered on, I think a final judgement should have been released involving all the three clubs facing those charges  it obvious Man City and Chelsea had overspent on signing of players while their own cases is ongoing I hope a fair decision is taken on their cases too within the shortest period of time for equitable  and fair dispensing of justice, meanwhile I hope Everton players is motivated with this punishment to fight relegation battle.

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November 18, 2023, 03:57:07 PM
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There is no threat too early for Everton because this season is still very long. There are the next 26 matches that could see Everton return to mid-table or enter the top 10 because perhaps all the teams above them will slip due to changes in their form of play. I'm sure the points deduction they received will affect the team and its form, but they have to recover and get into good form in each of the next games. After all, this is not the end of everything for them and honestly they will learn a lot from their mistakes from now on.

Everton's performance in the last two seasons has indeed declined and they tend to struggle hard at the bottom to avoid relegation. Of course, they have to be very careful if they don't want to be relegated this season, especially after getting 10 points deducted for their mistake.
Remaining two points behind Luton Town as latest from relegation position its not really huge problem for Everton keep stay in Premier League next season after 10 points deduction. Have 26 matches left its more enough to secure minimum 41 points keep stay in Premier League competition, have advantage with current standings teams until 15th position behind collected 12 points will not difficult for Everton get finish target outside from relegation zone.

Realistic with Everton target in this season is how to make their position keep secure in premier league, they should focus on upcoming match against Manchester United after international break out and should take three points. Before half season, Everton should out from relegation zone if want make easy how to defend position in Premier League.

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November 18, 2023, 04:18:44 PM
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It must be really frustrating for Everton officials to see that only they are getting this punishment. Because in the past Manchester City faced this punishment "threat" many times but didn't get any officially. Double standard is being applied clearly when it comes to top teams in the Premier League. This is so wrong.
Everton has been struggling since the early season to get 14 points and then it must be losing 10 points due to the FFP breach. There's no worst thing rather than seeing how everton lost 10 points. It was kicking everton back again to the relegation zone.
After EPL was sanctioning everton and there have been also many rumors that said that if chelsea and manchester city will be relegated. It's due to the same mistake being made by chelsea and manchester city.
It seems like that public is trying to speak up now regarding this problem. Im very disappointed to see that happened to the everton but since club has accepted its guilty and nothing wrong with it.

Now after this decision Everton are in the relegation zone.  Sad  The season was already not going on easy for them and now it has become much more difficult because of this reason.
Yeah, everton needs to put more effort to leave from the relegation zone. It was kicking everton so hard. 4 points remaining at this moment. The league is also going even closer to the end of season.
I can't even imagine what kind of strategy that may be prepared by everton to leave from the relegation zone. This job is not that easy.

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November 18, 2023, 04:27:17 PM
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I don’t think Ten Hag will be worried about losing his job at this time in the season. Results are turning in their favor whether we think it’s impressive or not. The champions league may be the deal breaker, it will be really bad if they are knocked out of every competition. That will be a red flag for ETH to leave. Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to make some changes to the club, he has already told Ten Hag to sort his issues with Sancho. It’s left to Ten Hag to bury the hatchet with Sancho and do his best to assure the new owner of his ability to deliver
If he still wants to be at Manchester United for a long time, then he must immediately fix the problems in the club, be it in the game or things outside of it, such as harmonization between players and so on. What I see from Manchester United now is that they don't seem to have good harmonization. Because however in a club it must be created and will later affect their chemistry on the field.
Since Ten Hag joined Manchester United, I see there are always personal problems, and the biggest is his dispute with Ronaldo.

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November 18, 2023, 04:48:12 PM
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I don’t think Ten Hag will be worried about losing his job at this time in the season. Results are turning in their favor whether we think it’s impressive or not. The champions league may be the deal breaker, it will be really bad if they are knocked out of every competition. That will be a red flag for ETH to leave. Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to make some changes to the club, he has already told Ten Hag to sort his issues with Sancho. It’s left to Ten Hag to bury the hatchet with Sancho and do his best to assure the new owner of his ability to deliver
If he still wants to be at Manchester United for a long time, then he must immediately fix the problems in the club, be it in the game or things outside of it, such as harmonization between players and so on. What I see from Manchester United now is that they don't seem to have good harmonization. Because however in a club it must be created and will later affect their chemistry on the field.
Since Ten Hag joined Manchester United, I see there are always personal problems, and the biggest is his dispute with Ronaldo.

It seems like Erik ten Hag has a poor way of building harmony in the team so yes, the result was a collapse because he didn't manage to build good chemistry in the squad. I think, the main thing that a coach should do in building a team is about prioritizing harmonization, and Erik ten Hag does not have good skills in this matter. Therefore, then of course Erik ten Hag will not last long at Manchester United, because of course Manchester United also wants to have good harmony of course to support the team's performance to be even better.

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November 18, 2023, 04:51:23 PM
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It must be really frustrating for Everton officials to see that only they are getting this punishment. Because in the past Manchester City faced this punishment "threat" many times but didn't get any officially. Double standard is being applied clearly when it comes to top teams in the Premier League. This is so wrong.

Now after this decision Everton are in the relegation zone.  Sad  The season was already not going on easy for them and now it has become much more difficult because of this reason.

The punishment given to Everton is just too much and I don’t think it’s fair to the players after working so hard to get those points, IMO sanctioning the management or those involved would do. Should financial matters impacts the ratings on the league table. Everton has had a tough season, and just when they are fighting hard to come back to winning times, this whole deduction happened. I can’t help but wonder what scale of punishment will be given to Manchester City or Chelsea if they are found guilty of any breaches in the last nine years?

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November 18, 2023, 04:51:52 PM
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I don’t think Ten Hag will be worried about losing his job at this time in the season. Results are turning in their favor whether we think it’s impressive or not. The champions league may be the deal breaker, it will be really bad if they are knocked out of every competition. That will be a red flag for ETH to leave. Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to make some changes to the club, he has already told Ten Hag to sort his issues with Sancho. It’s left to Ten Hag to bury the hatchet with Sancho and do his best to assure the new owner of his ability to deliver
If he still wants to be at Manchester United for a long time, then he must immediately fix the problems in the club, be it in the game or things outside of it, such as harmonization between players and so on. What I see from Manchester United now is that they don't seem to have good harmonization. Because however in a club it must be created and will later affect their chemistry on the field.
Since Ten Hag joined Manchester United, I see there are always personal problems, and the biggest is his dispute with Ronaldo.

It seems like Erik ten Hag has a poor way of building harmony in the team so yes, the result was a collapse because he didn't manage to build good chemistry in the squad. I think, the main thing that a coach should do in building a team is about prioritizing harmonization, and Erik ten Hag does not have good skills in this matter. Therefore, then of course Erik ten Hag will not last long at Manchester United, because of course Manchester United also wants to have good harmony of course to support the team's performance to be even better.

But since so many people think that Erik ten Hag is doing a bad job at building harmony and cohesion within the team but also between him and the players, others from the Manchester United administration also have to notice that. Is it just a wrong impression that so many people have or does Erik ten Hag really suck so hard in terms of interrelationships with his players? Because if it is true, I think getting rid of him is the only solution that would help the club. Waiting until they are at the lowest bottom possible could be too late.

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November 18, 2023, 04:54:15 PM
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If he still wants to be at Manchester United for a long time, then he must immediately fix the problems in the club, be it in the game or things outside of it, such as harmonization between players and so on. What I see from Manchester United now is that they don't seem to have good harmonization. Because however in a club it must be created and will later affect their chemistry on the field.
Since Ten Hag joined Manchester United, I see there are always personal problems, and the biggest is his dispute with Ronaldo.
Recording good results is compulsory for an elite team like Manchester United in EPL this season. Erik Ten Hag will be fire in due time, because he has failed to elevate the team back to good standards of winning and there performance have declined. Erik Ten Hag should fixed the problems because there's more coming on the way. Manchester United have been transformed to be a mediocre team following their present performance in EPL this season. They keep struggling to win games which doesn't rhyme with  the present state of the club.

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November 18, 2023, 04:56:42 PM
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Remaining two points behind Luton Town as latest from relegation position its not really huge problem for Everton keep stay in Premier League next season after 10 points deduction. Have 26 matches left its more enough to secure minimum 41 points keep stay in Premier League competition, have advantage with current standings teams until 15th position behind collected 12 points will not difficult for Everton get finish target outside from relegation zone.

Realistic with Everton target in this season is how to make their position keep secure in premier league, they should focus on upcoming match against Manchester United after international break out and should take three points. Before half season, Everton should out from relegation zone if want make easy how to defend position in Premier League.
Last season Everton was only able to win 8 matches and draw 12 from 38 matches, but they only had 2 points more than relegated Leicester. Everton were only saved by matchday 38 last season, otherwise they would also have been relegated. Of course this season they have the chance to stay in the Premier League, but in my opinion it is not easy for those whose performance has been inconsistent in the last two seasons.

But either way, Everton can still be expected to find themselves this season. They need to work hard to prove that and personally I believe they can do it. They just need more effort and hard work after being deducted points, but they are still better than some other teams such as Luton Town and Bournemouth if they don't get deducted 10 points.

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