Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024

[Oluwa-btc]

Teams until Aston Villa are in a really nice competition for the lead in the standings. However after Aston Villa there is some decent point gap with the remaining teams. If Manchester United didn't have a bad start they would have been in a better position now. Even though they have lost many points they are still 4 points behind Aston Villa.

The board are still believing in Erik ten Hag to make this team better. He had better take advantage of this chance well and find a way to improve the form. They need to be effective and consistent in defense especially. Because they concede really simple goals.

The Manchester United we're complaining about are ranked 6th position on the table, and I'm surprised because watching them play on the pitch, there's absolutely nothing special, I'm just keep witnessing the same old Manchester United game pattern last season contrary to this season. Manchester united headcoach, Erik Ten Hag have hope of reaching high limits this season? But are the supporters willing to exercise patience with him? It's definitely going to take lengthy period of time before things will finally balance at Old Trafford, I know what I'm saying.

They had similar scenes last season but only for a short time I think the first four games if my pea brains can remember and recall correctly. Erik Ten Hag found ways to put issues together and and placed them in the right direction. This season, he has been quite sentimental with most of his decisions which has affected how the squad play. They've still found ways to win difficult games and lose easy games.

Manchester United remains a big club, them fans who knows the worth and capacity of the club will never settle for less so these pressures are on the player's and coach season after season to give them all for the badge and club.
Erik Ten Hag is a great coach, he'll gradually out the squad in the right place.

[n00ber]

Teams until Aston Villa are in a really nice competition for the lead in the standings. However after Aston Villa there is some decent point gap with the remaining teams. If Manchester United didn't have a bad start they would have been in a better position now. Even though they have lost many points they are still 4 points behind Aston Villa.

The board are still believing in Erik ten Hag to make this team better. He had better take advantage of this chance well and find a way to improve the form. They need to be effective and consistent in defense especially. Because they concede really simple goals.

The Manchester United we're complaining about are ranked 6th position on the table, and I'm surprised because watching them play on the pitch, there's absolutely nothing special, I'm just keep witnessing the same old Manchester United game pattern last season contrary to this season. Manchester united headcoach, Erik Ten Hag have hope of reaching high limits this season? But are the supporters willing to exercise patience with him? It's definitely going to take lengthy period of time before things will finally balance at Old Trafford, I know what I'm saying.

Their young players have yet to find a familiar voice. They play based on emotions. After all, they have a quality squad. The problem is whether Erik ten Hag knows how to exploit his students' potential or if he is mixing things up. I will wait and see what ten Hag will do. I still believe he can do it. Being in the top 4 this season is enough for the fans and the board to trust him.

Manchester United is not only weak on defense but also on attack. I feel regretful that they didn't recruit Harry Kane. Instead of welcoming Harry Kane, Man United recruited Rasmus Hojlund for a transfer fee of 72 million pounds. He has yet to score a goal in the Premier League after 9 appearances. Rasmus Hojlund's skills and strength are not enough, and he is not Harry Kane, so he needs more help from his teammates. Kane exploded at Bayern. He contributed 21 goals and 7 assists to Bayern Munich in 16 matches in all competitions. It's a shame they didn't pick Kane.

[eebkhs]

Although they are ranked 6th now, but with their mediocre and even disappointing performances, it will make fans or anyone else feel that they will not be able to maintain their current position. For me personally it's not just the standings, it's the pattern of play they show too. sometimes some people don't care about the standings, but if their play is promising it will make them satisfied. Logically, when their play is good and promising, then their ranking in the standings will follow as well as their performance. I'm sure you know what I mean.

We're too focus to see the bad performance by Manchester United, but we forget if other clubs' performance also unstable and that resulting the points are widely spread. It's not like in the last season where the gap between top and middle positions are really far, it's need many many match to overtake them.

What we need to highlight is Newcastle which currently behind Manchester United.

In my opinion, Manchester united has not changed this season, in fact they have experienced a slight decline in starting the league this season, and it is not surprising because Manchester United itself has not really changed the team scheme while still retaining its old players, so it is not surprising that their performance has not changed either.
Maybe there will be an increase in team performance, but it will take a long time and many matches ahead for a coach to find a scheme that is suitable for a team with limited players.

[piebeyb]

At the moment they are a little better when compared to the beginning of the season but it is still vulnerable for Manchester United cause if in the end the good performance in the last few matchs fade again and Manchester United have another difficult time then the criticism will return to them and the Ten Hag rumors will be heard.

Manchester United's failure in the UCL will of course be a source of criticism for anyone towards Ten Hag, that's why I think they are still playing quite well and consistently in the EPL at the moment. Moreover, it is true that Manchester United is still not ready to play in the UCL because there is still a lot that needs to be improved too. and their squad must be overhauled so that they really play optimally in the UCL this season from the two remaining matches and of course pay attention to players who have better stamina. .

I'm not sure whether there is a need to add new players but for the players currently available I think Ten Hag has no other choice but to implement new strategies and tactics for his players in order to emphasize continuing to be on the winning track, at least Ten Hag doesn't continue to receive criticism from the players. supporter.

[eebkhs]

The Manchester United we're complaining about are ranked 6th position on the table, and I'm surprised because watching them play on the pitch, there's absolutely nothing special, I'm just keep witnessing the same old Manchester United game pattern last season contrary to this season. Manchester united headcoach, Erik Ten Hag have hope of reaching high limits this season? But are the supporters willing to exercise patience with him? It's definitely going to take lengthy period of time before things will finally balance at Old Trafford, I know what I'm saying.

Manchester United rank in Premier League is not too bad and they can climb up more in rest of season. The season is long and they have enough time to do this task but with their very unstable performances and sometimes very bad, this task is not easy to achieve for Manchester United players.

It is unfair as I as an observer, says it is challenging or impossible task whilst their players and coach are trying on daily basis from training to playing in real matches, to achieve this task. Their performances in this season are not worse than theirs in the last season so if in the last season, they can end it in top four, they can do it again in this season.

However the come back of Liverpool and maybe Chelsea, there will be more challenge against Manchester United to get a position in top four.

Yes, There is indeed progress from Manchester united, we can see that They have made some change compared to the start of The season, as if They want to catch up, but it seem that even though they are stable going forward in The next match, it is impossible to get Abtop 3 position, they are already far behind from The top 3.
I'm not sure Manchester united will be stable and maybe next season will also be The same if there are no change in some players.

[BRINIRHA]

The quality level of the Premier League is very high. Everyone is aware of this quality and that is why the Premier League is the best in the world. We have often seen weak teams beat teams at the top of the league. Again, since such things are likely to happen in the future, the most enjoyable and beautiful league is EPL. In short, while competition is what makes a league quality, it is necessary to make accurate comparisons with other leagues.

Sometimes we can see a promoted team performing impressively and beating a stronger team but unfortunately this season we don't see that because the three promoted teams performed equally badly this season and all three have a big chance of returning to play in their old division, namely the Championship.
However, it is true that the English Premier League is always interesting to watch, not only because mediocre teams can beat strong teams, but also because the map of strength can change every season, even though the champion is still the same team. If we see Newcastle in several seasons, they are very weak, these two seasons they are better and strong teams have performed poorly in several seasons, such as Chelsea and Manchester United and next season maybe we will see another, stronger team.

And actually the Premier League is also the most watched football league in the entire country. Not only in Europe but throughout the continent. Even in my country, almost all football fans have watched the Premier League. And indeed the quality of players and clubs in the Premier League is the best at the moment. Even the football news media always doesn't stop reporting on the excitement of the Premier League. Even jerseys from clubs in the Premier League are also sold in various countries.

And the competitive level in the Premier League is also much hotter than in other leagues. And only strong teams can survive in this league. Even the three teams that were promoted this season currently seem to be in the relegation zone. Which means they are slowly starting to fall behind in points. My estimate is the same, namely that all three will probably be relegated again.

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[Hirose UK]

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Yes, There is indeed progress from Manchester united, we can see that They have made some change compared to the start of The season, as if They want to catch up, but it seem that even though they are stable going forward in The next match, it is impossible to get Abtop 3 position, they are already far behind from The top 3.
I'm not sure Manchester united will be stable and maybe next season will also be The same if there are no change in some players.

Getting several wins against lower teams is not progress in my opinion because Manchester United is big team so it will only be an unsatisfying win when facing lower teams.
But I admit this is much better than the start of the season which was really unreliable, they will probably struggle to get third place this season it just that it good defense and doesn't make all of us fans feel disappointed and have a bad view .

Look, they have two tough matches to face, namely Bayern Munich in the UCL and Liverpool in the Premier League.
These two teams are big challenge for Manchester United and if they can beat both of them then it could be proud victory and deserves to be appreciated with joy.

Who knows how they will prepare to face Bayern Munich and Liverpool but our confidence in Manchester United winning has begun to fade.
A maximum draw is more than enough because it can prove that Manchester United is also strong enough to face other teams who are also top teams.

[Salahmu]

Manchester United rank in Premier League is not too bad and they can climb up more in rest of season. The season is long and they have enough time to do this task but with their very unstable performances and sometimes very bad, this task is not easy to achieve for Manchester United players.

Yes there sixth position on the premier League table is not too bad because the game is still far and the possibility of Manchester United to climb is still higher because I have seen other teams who are in number six on most table and latter club up because there improvement on performance.

So I believe that if Manchester United will seat up on there remaining matches by wining them there would be a higher chance for them to improve on the premier League table but however no matter how much they try they can never get to the second position on the premier league table.

[Cryptmuster]

Although they are ranked 6th now, but with their mediocre and even disappointing performances, it will make fans or anyone else feel that they will not be able to maintain their current position. For me personally it's not just the standings, it's the pattern of play they show too. sometimes some people don't care about the standings, but if their play is promising it will make them satisfied. Logically, when their play is good and promising, then their ranking in the standings will follow as well as their performance. I'm sure you know what I mean.

In fact, everything matters and without a good game, it is very difficult to achieve a good position in the table. Here is an example of a team that comes next after Manchester United, in seventh place is Newcastle, a team that shows a very promising game, giving everything in every match, but they are even lower in the table, so fans need victories and although would be top 4.

Agree, what Manchester United and Newcastle show is very different on the field, this is even shown by the statistics of goals scored for Manchester United - 13, for Newcastle - 27, but the teams are side by side with a difference of only one point.

[Jody.Drummer]

Although they are ranked 6th now, but with their mediocre and even disappointing performances, it will make fans or anyone else feel that they will not be able to maintain their current position. For me personally it's not just the standings, it's the pattern of play they show too. sometimes some people don't care about the standings, but if their play is promising it will make them satisfied. Logically, when their play is good and promising, then their ranking in the standings will follow as well as their performance. I'm sure you know what I mean.

We're too focus to see the bad performance by Manchester United, but we forget if other clubs' performance also unstable and that resulting the points are widely spread. It's not like in the last season where the gap between top and middle positions are really far, it's need many many match to overtake them.

What we need to highlight is Newcastle which currently behind Manchester United.

It's true what you say, but I look at it from another point of view, which is that they are quite lucky because now other clubs also have less stability so in terms of points they are not far adrift. But keep in mind also this will only enter week 13, and when they still cannot show improvement, then it is not impossible that the point gap that we see now will widen even more after passing the next week.
Every point counts, we agree with that, and they'll have to be better to get that precious one.

In my opinion, Manchester united has not changed this season, in fact they have experienced a slight decline in starting the league this season, and it is not surprising because Manchester United itself has not really changed the team scheme while still retaining its old players, so it is not surprising that their performance has not changed either.
Maybe there will be an increase in team performance, but it will take a long time and many matches ahead for a coach to find a scheme that is suitable for a team with limited players.

How can you say they have not changed, when you say they have decreased. That's something that's changed too, isn't it?
I think the decline experienced by Manchester United at this time is one of them is that they brought in new players and the new players have not shown something expected which in the end did not bring fresh air to Manchester United itself. Apart from that, I am strange when the management seems to be relaxed with the club they have.

[Ahli38]

Manchester United rank in Premier League is not too bad and they can climb up more in rest of season. The season is long and they have enough time to do this task but with their very unstable performances and sometimes very bad, this task is not easy to achieve for Manchester United players.

Yes there sixth position on the premier League table is not too bad because the game is still far and the possibility of Manchester United to climb is still higher because I have seen other teams who are in number six on most table and latter club up because there improvement on performance.

So I believe that if Manchester United will seat up on there remaining matches by wining them there would be a higher chance for them to improve on the premier League table but however no matter how much they try they can never get to the second position on the premier league table.

We also have to remember that currently it is still in the early season category. Because only 12 matches have been played this season. and there are 26 more matches left this season. Which means that currently, any team can still be said to have the same opportunity if they want to improve their ranking in the standings. And the poor performance shown by Manchester United at the start of the season is nothing new. Because last season, Manchester United didn't start the season with good results. They were also inconsistent at the start of last season. But after mid-season Manchester United continued to win and finally their ranking slowly rose until finally they managed to reach the top 3 in the standings and managed to get a ticket to the Champions League.

I think this season the same thing could happen. Because not all teams can continue to stay at the top of the standings from start to finish (About Arsenal last season, perhaps an exception). And not all teams that are good at the start can maintain their good performance until the end of the season. Sometimes there are teams that don't start smoothly but get better as the season goes on.

But Manchester United's current condition is quite worrying. But at least Manchester United can still get a win against a weak team. Although unfortunately they always lose against strong teams. 7 wins and 5 losses is quite bad. But being ranked 6th can still be said to be a condition that is not too bad. But having a difference of 4 points with Aston Villa who are ranked 5th is indeed a fairly wide gap. So Manchester United cannot afford to lose again if they don't want the point difference to widen. At least in the upcoming match in the EPL Manchester United will face weaker Everton. And Manchester United must take advantage of this match. Because after this match Manchester United may have difficulty getting points back because after that Newcastle will be their opponents at the start of next month.

[Fara Chan]

In my opinion, Manchester united has not changed this season, in fact they have experienced a slight decline in starting the league this season, and it is not surprising because Manchester United itself has not really changed the team scheme while still retaining its old players, so it is not surprising that their performance has not changed either.
Maybe there will be an increase in team performance, but it will take a long time and many matches ahead for a coach to find a scheme that is suitable for a team with limited players.

If Manchester United wants to make significant changes this season with the player scheme and the way they play this season, the coach and the team as a whole must really care about this. Especially they have to take advantage of the transfer market when it opens again this season and also change the way they play slowly so that there are more significant changes for the team, because what Manchester United needs now is to win in every game that remains this season.

[Blitzboy]

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Yeah you have a point because Manchester City has a home advantage over Liverpool because checking there past matches from September till now they have not lose any home matches but on the contrary they have actually been winning.

So however I'm not disputing the facts that Liverpool are not in a good shape but what I'm trying to say is that Manchester City has more forceful and tactical strikers than Liverpool. For me I'm seeing Manchester City beating Liverpool on that match, but let's see how it goes because we can assume but are not certain of what the outcome will look like.

Thanks for mentioning Manchester City's home strength and goal-scoring ability. City has an outstanding home record and has been strong all season, especially in attack. They have a tactical advantage against Liverpool since their forwards are skilled and savvy. Liverpool's comeback proves they're no joke. Getting back in form reminds us of their finest play from a few years ago. Upcoming game is a strategic and determination combat.

When the stakes are this high, it will come down to who can exploit the other team's blunders. Each team is strong, and one error might determine the outcome. City may be better on paper, especially at home, but Liverpool's recent form is unavoidable. You may expect a close contest. It may be closer than most people assume.

[tusandii]

In my opinion, Manchester united has not changed this season, in fact they have experienced a slight decline in starting the league this season, and it is not surprising because Manchester United itself has not really changed the team scheme while still retaining its old players, so it is not surprising that their performance has not changed either.
Maybe there will be an increase in team performance, but it will take a long time and many matches ahead for a coach to find a scheme that is suitable for a team with limited players.

If Manchester United wants to make significant changes this season with the player scheme and the way they play this season, the coach and the team as a whole must really care about this. Especially they have to take advantage of the transfer market when it opens again this season and also change the way they play slowly so that there are more significant changes for the team, because what Manchester United needs now is to win in every game that remains this season.

Yes, Manchester United's opportunity is only in the transfer market after it opens and Erik Ten Hag really has to take advantage of this opportunity to be able to get players who can really provide the best change for Manchester United because the condition of this club is very worrying with several players having problems with injuries, etc. making it difficult for Manchester United to appear stronger.
At least this season Manchester United can get a position in the Premier League so that they don't feel embarrassed as a big club in the past and also Erik Ten Hag career will be counted this season because if he fails to bring Manchester United to the best ranking there will definitely be a lot of people who will blame him or not trust Erik Ten Hag again.

[klidex]

The Manchester United we're complaining about are ranked 6th position on the table, and I'm surprised because watching them play on the pitch, there's absolutely nothing special, I'm just keep witnessing the same old Manchester United game pattern last season contrary to this season. Manchester united headcoach, Erik Ten Hag have hope of reaching high limits this season? But are the supporters willing to exercise patience with him? It's definitely going to take lengthy period of time before things will finally balance at Old Trafford, I know what I'm saying.

Manchester United rank in Premier League is not too bad and they can climb up more in rest of season. The season is long and they have enough time to do this task but with their very unstable performances and sometimes very bad, this task is not easy to achieve for Manchester United players.

It is unfair as I as an observer, says it is challenging or impossible task whilst their players and coach are trying on daily basis from training to playing in real matches, to achieve this task. Their performances in this season are not worse than theirs in the last season so if in the last season, they can end it in top four, they can do it again in this season.

However the come back of Liverpool and maybe Chelsea, there will be more challenge against Manchester United to get a position in top four.

Yes, that's true, we can see the ranking that Manchester United will achieve at the end of the season because this season is still long. Manchester United still have enough time and opportunities to improve their performance and Erik Ten Hag is still given the opportunity to train this team so that it can be better. better than before, even though Manchester United looks inconsistent, Manchester United still proves that they still deserve to be in the top 5 alongside other elite clubs at the moment.

If you look at the moment, Liverpool has a better performance when compared to Chelsea and Manchester United, Liverpool is currently in 2nd place and has only experienced 1 defeat, so it's true, as you say, this is a challenge and motivation for Erik Ten Hag to get up and try to improve the ranking of the club he manages.

[skarais]

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If Manchester United wants to make significant changes this season with the player scheme and the way they play this season, the coach and the team as a whole must really care about this. Especially they have to take advantage of the transfer market when it opens again this season and also change the way they play slowly so that there are more significant changes for the team, because what Manchester United needs now is to win in every game that remains this season.

I don't know how many more seasons Manchester United will need to get back to their best form. They've been away from winning a title for too long, so it seems like they're starting to forget how to do it. Manchester United will certainly try their best to fight for the title, but their performance does not support that plan so far.

In my opinion, Manchester United really needs additional players to support its efforts to achieve its best performance. So far things haven't gone according to plan, so I don't think they have much hope of fighting for the title. Ten Hag needs to set reasonable targets this season that are tailored to his team's abilities, and fans' expectations should not be too high.

[Majestic-milf]

 Chelsea have been impressive in their last 3 to 4 games and fans are elated for their recent performance last week to Man City where they held the three time league winners to a 4-4 draw and I must say I didn't expect them to come back from that much goals, at least certainly not Man City but it seems they will not be allowed to enjoy that accomplishment as it has been discovered that their past owner, Roman Abramovich may have made secret transfers that breached the FFP rules and if they are found guilty, it could cost them to pay fines or point reduction and if they settle for point reduction, it will surely demoralize the confidence Chelsea are beginning to have.

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/four-things-premier-league-points-28111132

[Ahli38]

In my opinion, Manchester united has not changed this season, in fact they have experienced a slight decline in starting the league this season, and it is not surprising because Manchester United itself has not really changed the team scheme while still retaining its old players, so it is not surprising that their performance has not changed either.
Maybe there will be an increase in team performance, but it will take a long time and many matches ahead for a coach to find a scheme that is suitable for a team with limited players.

If Manchester United wants to make significant changes this season with the player scheme and the way they play this season, the coach and the team as a whole must really care about this. Especially they have to take advantage of the transfer market when it opens again this season and also change the way they play slowly so that there are more significant changes for the team, because what Manchester United needs now is to win in every game that remains this season.

I personally actually see that Manchester United really needs to take advantage of the upcoming transfer market to get several back line players to improve their poor defense from the start of this season. And it seems that there are already several defenders who are being targeted by Manchester United in the transfer market. Some of them are defenders who Manchester United failed to bring in in the transfer market yesterday, such as Jean-Clair Todibo. But I think that in this transfer market, Manchester United will most likely fail again in trying to bring in Jean-Clair Todibo. But there are many other options that could be a good choice. In essence, the critical condition that is currently Manchester United's weakness is the back line. This can be proven by the number of goals scored against Manchester United at the start of this season. So if the back line is not improved then I think Manchester United will continue to have difficulties in the second half of the season.

[Salahmu]

Manchester United rank in Premier League is not too bad and they can climb up more in rest of season. The season is long and they have enough time to do this task but with their very unstable performances and sometimes very bad, this task is not easy to achieve for Manchester United players.

Yes there sixth position on the premier League table is not too bad because the game is still far and the possibility of Manchester United to climb is still higher because I have seen other teams who are in number six on most table and latter club up because there improvement on performance.

So I believe that if Manchester United will seat up on there remaining matches by wining them there would be a higher chance for them to improve on the premier League table but however no matter how much they try they can never get to the second position on the premier league table.

We also have to remember that currently it is still in the early season category. Because only 12 matches have been played this season. and there are 26 more matches left this season. Which means that currently, any team can still be said to have the same opportunity if they want to improve their ranking in the standings. And the poor performance shown by Manchester United at the start of the season is nothing new. Because last season, Manchester United didn't start the season with good results. They were also inconsistent at the start of last season. But after mid-season Manchester United continued to win and finally their ranking slowly rose until finally they managed to reach the top 3 in the standings and managed to get a ticket to the Champions League.

I think this season the same thing could happen. Because not all teams can continue to stay at the top of the standings from start to finish (About Arsenal last season, perhaps an exception). And not all teams that are good at the start can maintain their good performance until the end of the season. Sometimes there are teams that don't start smoothly but get better as the season goes on.

But Manchester United's current condition is quite worrying. But at least Manchester United can still get a win against a weak team. Although unfortunately they always lose against strong teams. 7 wins and 5 losses is quite bad. But being ranked 6th can still be said to be a condition that is not too bad. But having a difference of 4 points with Aston Villa who are ranked 5th is indeed a fairly wide gap. So Manchester United cannot afford to lose again if they don't want the point difference to widen. At least in the upcoming match in the EPL Manchester United will face weaker Everton. And Manchester United must take advantage of this match. Because after this match Manchester United may have difficulty getting points back because after that Newcastle will be their opponents at the start of next month.

Yes what you said is true because we know that the season is still too early to predict what the season will look like but however there are some clubs that we can easily predict how there outcome will be on this  premier League season do to how poor there performance is, so the reason why I said there is know chance for Manchester United to get to the second position on the premier league table is because irrespective if them wining few of there easy matches doesn't guarantee them the chance of becoming second on the table because there performance is very poor and they are not consistent in wining because when we feel they have peak form that's they will show there low performance.

And beside come to even think of it, how possible it is for Manchester United to move themselves over Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur to enter the second position on the table with their current performance is not actually possible perhaps they really need to work on the team so that when they come back next season there performance will improve.

[Ahli38]

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Yes what you said is true because we know that the season is still too early to predict what the season will look like but however there are some clubs that we can easily predict how there outcome will be on this  premier League season do to how poor there performance is, so the reason why I said there is know chance for Manchester United to get to the second position on the premier league table is because irrespective if them wining few of there easy matches doesn't guarantee them the chance of becoming second on the table because there performance is very poor and they are not consistent in wining because when we feel they have peak form that's they will show there low performance.

And beside come to even think of it, how possible it is for Manchester United to move themselves over Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur to enter the second position on the table with their current performance is not actually possible perhaps they really need to work on the team so that when they come back next season there performance will improve.

Well you're right. When we now look at the performance of Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham, there is indeed a very striking difference compared to the performance of Manchester United. So if we look at the current conditions, it looks very difficult for Manchester United to even get into the top 4, let alone get to 2nd place, which is certainly much more difficult. But a similar thing happened last season when Arsenal, Newcastle and Manchester City continued to compete in rankings 1, 2 and 3 since the start of the season. But in the end Newcastle had to be willing to end up in 4th place. Meanwhile Manchester United surprisingly managed to get to 3rd place. But last season Liverpool was really in bad shape. They are similar to Manchester United this season. It would be very funny if at the end of the current season Liverpool ended up in 3rd place (exactly the same as what Manchester United achieved last season) and Manchester United ended up in 5th place (exactly the same as what Liverpool achieved last season). I think it would be very funny if that happened.