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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
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November 18, 2023, 06:40:47 AM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone.
Everton was hit with 1 charge and sentenced to a deduction of 10 points, what will happen to Manchester City who was hit with 115 charges?
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November 18, 2023, 06:44:39 AM
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There is still time left for Everton if they still want to play in the Premier League next season. Regardless of the sanctions they received for me it has become a consequence because of their own actions. So with 26 games remaining I'm sure Everton will escape the threat of the Relegation Zone anyway. If you compare it with clubs like Burnley, Sheff United, Luton, and Bournemouth IMO Everton are still superior in terms of play and the quality of players they have.

Sean Dyche has different game characteristics from the previous coach, and this for me is a strong capital to provide motivation, especially for the players themselves, not because of the points and think everything is finished.

Based on apnews this sanction is said to be a new history where Everton created itself as the club that received the largest sports sanction in 31 years of the Premier League. Whether this Federation decision can be appealed or not, because Everton still did not expect what had just happened to them and will make various appeals.
Of course, this is very detrimental for Everton, indeed they still have a lot of time to recover, but this punishment will make the team's mentality even worse, especially since they are slowly having difficulty developing this season after the previous two consecutive seasons which were always difficult. escape the relegation zone at the end of the season.

If you look at Everton's performance under Sean Dyche's coaching this season, I'm a little optimistic that they won't be like last season, but this penalty certainly has a big impact, so my confidence in it has decreased a bit.
It is not easy to compete in the Premier League because all the teams have not much difference in quality.

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November 18, 2023, 06:49:11 AM
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I believe Aston villa will defeat Tottenham Hotspur 2-1 for the favour of Aston villa to embrace the three points to move to the next level in the table.
The match against Wolves was quite ambiguous for Spurs. Tottenham played well from the start, but the created chances were minimal. The finishing touches always ended poorly, and the opportunities created were not plentiful despite Spurs' dominance.

The red card effect from the Chelsea match seems to still weaken the Spurs defense. Two main defenders, Romero and Udogie, couldn't play in the match against Wolves, and their best playmaker, James Maddison, was also injured.

The two late goals by Sarabia and Lemina were beyond everyone's expectations. I thought the match was over by the 80th minute, with the game set to end 1-0, but the home team unexpectedly scored two goals during extra time. I'm sure many live bettors suffered losses due to those two goals.

The match against Aston Villa still seems challenging for Spurs as their key defenders are still serving their suspension. It might be interesting to test your luck with a bet on Aston Villa.
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November 18, 2023, 07:19:11 AM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.

Everton has accepted that guilty and the club is now in the process recovering its points after it has been sanctioned by UCL. The report by burnley and leeds have been confirmed by EPL. It was making everton got another bad result.
People were seeing losing 10 points were nothing for everton but since everton played so badly and this is a serious sanction.

Since everton has become a new trending topic among the footballers and it's also possible for chelsea and manchester city to face the same result as what everton got. We remember that if chelsea and manchester city have been facing various problems.
People are starting to feel worry for city to get the same sanction as everton. This means the chance for the title race is not possible for manchester city caused by we are almost entering the middle season.

People are not starting to talk about chelsea and manchester city and possibility of them to breach FFP rules.

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November 18, 2023, 07:19:52 AM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
This problem has actually appeared since March this year. It's just that now the punishment has been handed down. But even so, Everton can still appeal. And maybe this will make them get their points back. Or the number of points deducted will be reduced. Everton have approximately 13 more days to submit an appeal. But actually, we all here seem to be aware that Everton's performance this season has been quite good. So even though Everton is now in the relegation zone due to the points deduction, because the season is still long, the majority of us seem to be optimistic that we will see Everton get out of the relegation zone sooner or later.

It's just that the club seems to be planning to appeal. Because they certainly don't want to risk their club being relegated this season if they fail to get maximum points in the remaining matches.

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November 18, 2023, 07:20:50 AM
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Of course, this is very detrimental for Everton, indeed they still have a lot of time to recover, but this punishment will make the team's mentality even worse, especially since they are slowly having difficulty developing this season after the previous two consecutive seasons which were always difficult. escape the relegation zone at the end of the season.

If you look at Everton's performance under Sean Dyche's coaching this season, I'm a little optimistic that they won't be like last season, but this penalty certainly has a big impact, so my confidence in it has decreased a bit.
It is not easy to compete in the Premier League because all the teams have not much difference in quality.

Indeed, recently Everton's performance has slowly improved they won 3 matches from the last 5 matches but previously they always lost or drew thus placing them in 19th position, but yeah they are not safe enough Everton must continue to fight to get out of the red zone at least in the top 10 to be truly safe. Next week Everton have to play Manchester United clearly this is a challenge for Everton and there is no need to hope to win because a draw is the best achievement, we know Manchester United is trying to rise from adversity and so far they have succeeded. After that, Everton will face 2 tough matches in December Newcastle and Chelsea are waiting ahead.

Talking about a 10 point deduction it looks like it's still not final because according to some experts it's too heavy and could disrupt the team's stability, Everton did break the rules but that was not their intention so more consideration is needed when giving punishment.

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November 18, 2023, 07:55:48 AM
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The match against Wolves was quite ambiguous for Spurs. Tottenham played well from the start, but the created chances were minimal. The finishing touches always ended poorly, and the opportunities created were not plentiful despite Spurs' dominance.

The red card effect from the Chelsea match seems to still weaken the Spurs defense. Two main defenders, Romero and Udogie, couldn't play in the match against Wolves, and their best playmaker, James Maddison, was also injured.
Yeah Tottenham Hotspur performance was quite good on there match against Wolves because they dominated the game from first half to second half but what they fail to do is creating scoring opportunities, but however there strikers are not good enough because they seem to have been very weak in performance unlike early this season when they were playing very well.

However I don't know why but since there match against Chelsea everything about them has changed including performance because they are finding it difficult to perform well on there matches now.

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November 18, 2023, 08:05:46 AM
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The match against Wolves was quite ambiguous for Spurs. Tottenham played well from the start, but the created chances were minimal. The finishing touches always ended poorly, and the opportunities created were not plentiful despite Spurs' dominance.

The red card effect from the Chelsea match seems to still weaken the Spurs defense. Two main defenders, Romero and Udogie, couldn't play in the match against Wolves, and their best playmaker, James Maddison, was also injured.
Yeah Tottenham Hotspur performance was quite good on there match against Wolves because they dominated the game from first half to second half but what they fail to do is creating scoring opportunities, but however there strikers are not good enough because they seem to have been very weak in performance unlike early this season when they were playing very well.

However I don't know why but since there match against Chelsea everything about them has changed including performance because they are finding it difficult to perform well on there matches now.

I don't even understand what you're saying. For if you saw the game against Chelsea you'll know a couple of things why them game mentality dropped drastically. I also expect same results in the next two game they'll be playing in the Premier League.
They had chances to make that game two goals and three goals but they snoozed you know. You didn't see that game then! They don't have a good backup, now if son's Injured, I don't know how they want to attack. I was excited for Wolverampton, they tookgood use of the opportunity they had.

They lost players. Madison and one other pacy fullback got Injured. Also tow of them best defending players got Injured. Most importantly, I love how Tottenham Hotspur pressure high in every game.

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The match against Wolves was quite ambiguous for Spurs. Tottenham played well from the start, but the created chances were minimal. The finishing touches always ended poorly, and the opportunities created were not plentiful despite Spurs' dominance.

The red card effect from the Chelsea match seems to still weaken the Spurs defense. Two main defenders, Romero and Udogie, couldn't play in the match against Wolves, and their best playmaker, James Maddison, was also injured.
Yeah Tottenham Hotspur performance was quite good on there match against Wolves because they dominated the game from first half to second half but what they fail to do is creating scoring opportunities, but however there strikers are not good enough because they seem to have been very weak in performance unlike early this season when they were playing very well.

However I don't know why but since there match against Chelsea everything about them has changed including performance because they are finding it difficult to perform well on there matches now.

I was not satisfied with Tottenham's performance against Wolves. Such a performance is fine if Tottenham want to stay in 5/6/7 position in the table. However, if Tottenham want to qualify for the Champions League and stay in the top four of the points table, their performance needs to improve further. Especially their attacking performance was very bad in this match. And in the last two matches, they have been defeated because of a weak attack.

Tottenham had just 6 shots in total against Wolves. On the other hand, the opponent Wolves players made 17 shots. While Tottenham's overall performance has been stable, the performance of their forward players has deteriorated.

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In their last five English Premier League games, Manchester United has picked up more points than any other club in the league which I think is a very welcome development for the club but that shouldn't be a reason to excuse the club's manager from criticisms because as far as I'm concerned, Manchester United hasn't been impressive this season and considering the quality of players at the club, they deserve to be a better position than their current positive.
Manchester United is one of the English clubs in the UEFA Champions League competition this season but sadly, they've picked just three points in four matches in the competition and that's the lowest from any of the English teams in the competition

You're a Manchester United supporter? Then you should know that the manager is doing his possible best to get the squad in the right direction. Some important players for him have been Injured and that has affected them hugely.
They've declined in performance, both in the Champions League and the Premier League, but situation more worse within the Champions League than the Premier League. They may likely not get the qualifications the fans wants and it'll be damn shameful.

One of the best ways of attacking is to attack from defense but Manchester United have seen most of them defenders out Injured. Lisandro Martinez, Shaw and Tyrell Malacia's absence caused Manchester United lots of setbacks.
They'll definitely find themselves up to the top in the Premier, but man, I can't say same for the Champions League group stage.

I actually highly doubt that Manchester United is going to find themselves at the top of the table towards the end of the season. I genuinely doubt that because the coach has definitely tried a lot to bring in good results. He has tried different tactics, but nothing seems to actually work. And at this point, if Manchester United fans actually do not understand that the coach is just not as good as they are thinking, I have to say it is Copium. They need to change the current coach that they have. But for some reason, it feels like they are just too dumb to accept the fact. Of course, there are always going to be problems in the squad. But that does not mean their results are going to be that bad.



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November 18, 2023, 09:19:15 AM
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I actually highly doubt that Manchester United is going to find themselves at the top of the table towards the end of the season. I genuinely doubt that because the coach has definitely tried a lot to bring in good results. He has tried different tactics, but nothing seems to actually work. And at this point, if Manchester United fans actually do not understand that the coach is just not as good as they are thinking, I have to say it is Copium. They need to change the current coach that they have. But for some reason, it feels like they are just too dumb to accept the fact. Of course, there are always going to be problems in the squad. But that does not mean their results are going to be that bad.
Some of the fans are concluding based on emotions, which is very wrong because emotions can never lead you to say the truth. But truth be told, Manchester United is too big for Ten Hag, which is why he is not able to put things in place to bring the best result for Manchester United; some fans were able to understand, while others are still arguing blindly that he is a good coach that will bring victory back to Old Trafford.

Ten Hag actually tried last season to win a trophy for United, but his thinking ability as a coach is not world-class thinking because, from his way of substitution, he is not proving himself as world-class coach due to some errors he does make, which he usually refers to as tactics whenever he is doing his post-match conference. Manchester United need to sack Ten Hag for them to become the world-class team they used to be.

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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
Looking their' recent performance, I don't think they will relegated. I believe they will comeback, but after all Everton is just Everton, they can't going up to reach top 7 and will end near bottom position.

However I remember before this season started, many people were praise Burnley and they think Burnley could be a new contender, but they're currently stay at the lowest position lol.

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November 18, 2023, 09:35:33 AM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
Looking their' recent performance, I don't think they will relegated. I believe they will comeback, but after all Everton is just Everton, they can't going up to reach top 7 and will end near bottom position.

However I remember before this season started, many people were praise Burnley and they think Burnley could be a new contender, but they're currently stay at the lowest position lol.

Even after losing 10 points, I think Everton can stay at a safe distance from the relegation zone. If players lose confidence after losing 10 points.

Everton have won three of their last five matches and lost just one. And if they can maintain such consistency, they will be able to get out of the relegation zone in the next few matches. Because LutonTown, who is 17th in the table, has only 6 points. If Everton wins their next match, they have a chance to move to 17th place in the table. Everton is also 5 points behind from Bournemouth, who are in 16th place in the table. Bournemouth and Luton Town's performances are very poor. And so I'd say we'll see Everton 16th/17th in the table very soon.

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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone.
Everton was hit with 1 charge and sentenced to a deduction of 10 points, what will happen to Manchester City who was hit with 115 charges?


The thing that makes it different. Everton without being supported by oil's money while city has it all. Due to their utilization of oil money to circumvent the sanction, Manchester City will not be penalized.
There is also another club potentially to face the same risk as everton and that's it chelsea. The blues has been also getting many complaints, but the owner was just doing smart tranfer by spreading the fees into the many years.
The accumulation will not breach FFP rules. None expected this to come, and this is a bad record in the history of everton. The club shall be doing an evaluation.

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I actually highly doubt that Manchester United is going to find themselves at the top of the table towards the end of the season. I genuinely doubt that because the coach has definitely tried a lot to bring in good results. He has tried different tactics, but nothing seems to actually work. And at this point, if Manchester United fans actually do not understand that the coach is just not as good as they are thinking, I have to say it is Copium. They need to change the current coach that they have. But for some reason, it feels like they are just too dumb to accept the fact. Of course, there are always going to be problems in the squad. But that does not mean their results are going to be that bad.
Some of the fans are concluding based on emotions, which is very wrong because emotions can never lead you to say the truth. But truth be told, Manchester United is too big for Ten Hag, which is why he is not able to put things in place to bring the best result for Manchester United; some fans were able to understand, while others are still arguing blindly that he is a good coach that will bring victory back to Old Trafford.

You are right. if Ten Hag will be able to manage Manchester United to bring back their performance and good result as wanted; he could have done that this while, but it seems that he doesn’t have the skill or capacity to manage a big team like Manchester United, and that is why they are still facing challenges, which I think they have already lost this year. and they are now in the 6th position currently, so I believe the teams above them won’t do anything that will make them lose points.

However I remember before this season started, many people were praise Burnley and they think Burnley could be a new contender, but they're currently stay at the lowest position lol.

It happens sometimes. You know how fans feel when they see their favourite clubs doing well and topping the standings. People think that is how such clubs will end the season, forgetting that other clubs are there also preparing to get the same thing, and at times you will see that when those clubs come back with their performance, they meet the target and do well also. However, if you also look at Tottenham this early this season, they were actually doing well and were even topping the table. At that time, people were saying they would be the shining club in the Premier League this season, but right now Manchester City have already topped the standings, and Tottenham is now in the 4th position of the standings.

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November 18, 2023, 09:49:17 AM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
Everton is an team with an average performance since this season, with a few losses, before this sanctions came upon them, they were regarded as a team which could definitely contend well enough up onto the top five position because they did started off pretty in an average dorm this season.

This sanctions is definitely going to affect them greatly, their morale and psychology will definitely go down a little because they would have to start all over again as they have been thrown into relegation temporarily resulting from this, but I think they will definitely make it out of relegation before the season ends if they can put up some brilliance and win some matches,  they just have to make they recovery fast enough from these so they can begin to make sure to get out of relegation.

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November 18, 2023, 09:50:55 AM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
Looking their' recent performance, I don't think they will relegated. I believe they will comeback, but after all Everton is just Everton, they can't going up to reach top 7 and will end near bottom position.

However I remember before this season started, many people were praise Burnley and they think Burnley could be a new contender, but they're currently stay at the lowest position lol.
Last season, Everton was only able to finish in 17th place in the EPL standings by collecting 36 points, meaning they finished one level above the degradation zone. The points deduction this time means that Sean Dyche squad has to fight harder to get out of the degradation zone. I am very sure they will not be degradation next season. However, looking at their future match schedule, it looks like their efforts will be really difficult.

Man United, Nottingham, Newcastle, Chelsea, Burnley, Tottenham and Manchester City are a number of the clubs they will face in the future. I can only say that the maximum points that can be achieved is 6, namely when facing Nottingham and Burnley, while in other matches I doubt it. Even though there is no choice for them now other than to improve their own fate by getting as many points as possible with a sense of optimism, management errors in decision making have a negative impact on the players mentality.

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November 18, 2023, 10:02:55 AM
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Manchester United cannot gain any top position again as we are almost about to end the season, and they are not in the 6th position, so I believethe teams above them won’t do anything that will make them lose points.
What? ?? The season is ending soon??? It just started 12 weeks ago, and there are still 26 games to be played over more than half a year. And now, Man United is in 6th place. While we all doubt their performance will be the best in the league, at least the chances are still wide open. In terms of the standings, Man United is doing well, but in terms of performance, not so much.

Fans are too quick to label Ten Hag as a failed manager. I understand there have been some defeats for Man United since the start of the season, but is it too soon to consider Ten Hag a failed coach?

Even though there are already some potential candidates ready to replace the manager, the club needs to weigh the decision to change coaches too often it's really not good. The team struggles to find stability with frequent coaching changes. Adjusting strategies takes time and it's not instant.
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
Its hard for me not to feel sorry for Everton right now. Its hard to see a team get punished so badly for making mistakes with money. It feels like all of their hard work for those 14 points has been wasted now that 10 points have been taken away. I get the need for rules, but this seems a bit harsh, especially when you hear that bigger clubs like Manchester City are also being investigated in the same way but arent facing any instant consequences. Seriously, I hope Everton can get through this rough patch.

In the second line, its clear that things are very bad for Everton. They really suffered when they fell into the relegation zone, especially since they were doing pretty well before the penalty. As they try to get back points against both strong and weak teams, it will be hard for them. I just hope that they can keep going and find the strength to do so. These events could either break them or make them better as a team. It will be clear in due time.

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November 18, 2023, 10:12:40 AM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
Looking their' recent performance, I don't think they will relegated. I believe they will comeback, but after all Everton is just Everton, they can't going up to reach top 7 and will end near bottom position.

However I remember before this season started, many people were praise Burnley and they think Burnley could be a new contender, but they're currently stay at the lowest position lol.

Even after losing 10 points, I think Everton can stay at a safe distance from the relegation zone. If players lose confidence after losing 10 points.

Everton have won three of their last five matches and lost just one. And if they can maintain such consistency, they will be able to get out of the relegation zone in the next few matches. Because LutonTown, who is 17th in the table, has only 6 points. If Everton wins their next match, they have a chance to move to 17th place in the table. Everton is also 5 points behind from Bournemouth, who are in 16th place in the table. Bournemouth and Luton Town's performances are very poor. And so I'd say we'll see Everton 16th/17th in the table very soon.
It's easier said than done and don't forget that this sporting penalty has a psychological effect on the players because the offence of the club is what they are being punished for. It's just like a wasted season for them as nothing serious is sure for them this season with this kind of penalty. It's a very good reason to be angry with the club and its management, however, the management of the players at this time is crucial, and it would take very good managerial skills to calm them internally and build their confidence back in the club. You can use the Juventus case as an example, it took them several weeks before they could buckle up as the players might have written off the season and started playing anyhow.

But with the right mental state, they might be able to get out of the relegation zone which I believe can't be a compulsion for the players unless the club is wise to deal with them carefully. You also have to consider the opponent they will face in recent months to draw the conclusion. They will meet Man U in the next 2 weeks, I hope they are in their right mental state by then, if not, the yearning Man U will devour them.

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