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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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November 19, 2023, 05:16:19 PM
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Modern football requires a goalkeeper who can build attacks from the ground with his accurate passing. But what happened to Machester United is that they neglected the things that a goalkeeper should have, namely good reflexes and also a good reading of the direction of the ball, and that is now not shown by Onana.
I would largely agree and say the same thing about Manchester United, which is that they have made a mistake in discarding David de Gea, although his weakness is not having good passing, in my opinion it is a weakness that can be corrected.
Build up isn't a must for goalkeeper, it's a must for defensive midfielder. Manchester United don't have enough good defenders to use that strategy, even Bayern Munich that having strong defenders yet still struggle when they have a bad goalkeeper.

Ten Hag don't have a vision, he don't know which player is good and fit with Manchester United's players.
Yes, it is not a must for goalkeepers, but goalkeepers who have the ability to do so have a plus point in this era of modern football. But again I say that it should not neglect the abilities of a goalkeeper that should be, as in the points I made earlier.
Now what happens to David de Gea is, when he is considered not to have good passing accuracy coupled with their defense that is not better organized. No matter how good a player is, he will not have a good pass when his teammates cannot open up space and can move without the ball.

This is a difficult discussion, but I think that any modern goalkeeper should be able to participate in building up the game. On the highest level I think most of the teams have a goalkeeper who is able to support the team with the ability to initiate high paced attacks. If one team has that and the other teams doesn't, one attack can make the difference between winning and losing. That is why these versatile goalkeepers are among the most expensive players in the market. The value has increased by a lot in the last few years.

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November 19, 2023, 05:17:31 PM
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in many scenarios where we are faced with a company with a lot of money or a team with a lot of money, the regulatory bodies are more thoughtful in their decisions that they will take in relation to the accusations that are made against the rich team or rich company, because a decision Hard damage can harm a lot of things and the damage can be irreparable in the short term. Let's look at the case of Manchester City, I don't know to what extent all these accusations are true or not, but let's imagine that all the accusations are true and they decide to punish Manchester City with the maximum penalties, something like being relegated, what would happen to the Premier League? league if manchester city were relegated?

it would be something catastrophic, in a way it would affect the competitiveness of the premier league, the manchester city players who are English and play for the england national team would be affected because they would be playing in the low competitive league (second division league) and the england national team England would also see a reduction in good players and other national teams from other countries would also be harmed by this decision. So I wonder why the bodies responsible for the premier league don't opt for penalties such as payments of money in case of infractions, rather than having penalties of points reduction and relegation which are penalties that when implemented harm the team on a catastrophic level.

I think that some penalties need to be revised, I know and understand that one should not comment on infractions, but we all know that it is difficult to comply with the rules, which is why they do not impose penalties such as cash payments and take the money to improve even further the league and can do other things than suffer penalties that can destroy a team for many years. This doesn't help at all, what would they gain by relegating Manchester City?

No one should be above the law. As someone said, selective application of the law is lawlessness. And your reasoning has a serious flaw: if City had been punished immediately, at least for the first ten violations, then everything would not have worsened to such an extent that if they were punished now it would have catastrophic consequences. At the moment, when Ludogorets/Everton are punished, but City/PSG are left alone, it looks like a mockery of common sense.

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November 19, 2023, 05:19:44 PM
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I agree with you on this, because Erick Ten Hag was given enough money by Manchester United's management to sign a good striker that will help solve Manchester United's goals scoring issue but Ten Hag chose Hojlund over Victor Osimhen and Harry Kane with the idea of that Hojlund is young and he will score goals for Manchester United in the coming years. Erik Ten Hag's decision to sign Hojlund could cost him his job at Machester United unless he signs another striker in January that will help Manchester United's squad to score goals.
The management appointed Erik Ten Hag to lead the club to glory but it turn out he's not capable for the job. Manchester united is an elite team and it's time they do upgrade their level of football. Watching the Red Devils recorda poor performance is embarrassing especially against average clubs. Erik Ten Hag signing Rasmus Højlund from Atalanta was one of the brilliant signings he triggered this summer, the only problem the new striker faces is been a United player at critical moments. We're all aware about the present declined performance of Manchester United and they're struggling to win games.

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November 19, 2023, 05:22:02 PM
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They did made some bad decisions like did not sign a new contract with David De Gea, spent massive money to buy Onana, did not spend enough money for a central defender position to improve the heart area of their defense system.

De Gea is a good goalkeeper in saving skills and he loves Manchester United after many years there. If Manchester United and Ten Hag were more cleverly, they would have been kept De Gea in their club and use him as an alternative goalkeeper for Onana. I believe De Gea will accept that position as so far he did not join any club.

Onana is over rated because he has better passing skills than De Gea but in general, combining all skills of a goalkeeper, I think he is not a better goalkeeper than De Gea. Hopefully Ten Hag will not have to pay an expensive cost by his coach position because of his belief in Onana.
Manchester United had De Gea but let him off to chase Onana because of his good leg work whereas judging from all areas, De Gea was as keeper with better chances of saving the team from so many unnecessary goals. No doubt that Onana is good but De Gea would have done.
 
 De Gea has this quality of being United's savior in their most critical times and it's now occured to them now that Onana wasn't as good as how much he was rated, they just have to maintain Onana as their goalie hoping that in crucial times, he'd deliver positively. Onana did a lot better with his last team, no one actually knows now what the problem with him is but he sure would make good saves as games come by.

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November 19, 2023, 05:22:20 PM
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That is very correct, I agree with you that the problems experienced by Manchester United are very complex, so any efforts made will lead to setbacks. A comprehensive reform of the team is needed, so that everyone achieves harmony in thinking and taking a stance to build the club. Quite curious at what point management will provide a guarantee for Ten Hag, even though we know Ten Hag is an unlucky coach and not a bad coach.

I think the limit of tolerance given by club officials towards Ten Hag is the UCL group phase, and if he fails to get United to the last 16 then his career will soon be over. It is true that with Ajax he can achieve success, that is what makes European clubs look at him if in the end Ten Hag and United end their cooperation.
The depth of Manchester United's squad is a problem that must be resolved by management. Some of the main players do not have competition for the positions they occupy, so coaches are confused about rotating these players with better players. This results in the growth of egos among players so that sometimes they do not play as expected and can even be detrimental to their own team.

For one position there should be two players with good quality. They need to have competition to be a major player in the line-up, but Manchester United have had none so far. Even if Ten Hag rotates his main players with reserve players, then Manchester United will be no different from an ordinary team.

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November 19, 2023, 05:27:10 PM
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I agree with you on this, because Erick Ten Hag was given enough money by Manchester United's management to sign a good striker that will help solve Manchester United's goals scoring issue but Ten Hag chose Hojlund over Victor Osimhen and Harry Kane with the idea of that Hojlund is young and he will score goals for Manchester United in the coming years. Erik Ten Hag's decision to sign Hojlund could cost him his job at Machester United unless he signs another striker in January that will help Manchester United's squad to score goals.
The management appointed Erik Ten Hag to lead the club to glory but it turn out he's not capable for the job. Manchester united is an elite team and it's time they do upgrade their level of football. Watching the Red Devils recorda poor performance is embarrassing especially against average clubs. Erik Ten Hag signing Rasmus Højlund from Atalanta was one of the brilliant signings he triggered this summer, the only problem the new striker faces is been a United player at critical moments. We're all aware about the present declined performance of Manchester United and they're struggling to win games.

Yes indeed, it was the wrong choice and I have regretted it from the beginning because after all, if Manchester United could have brought Osimhen at that time, then of course it would have been better. Anyway, Osimhen is also young and still has good long-term prospects because ya, when compared to Hojlund then of course, Osimhen has better experience and performance too. Thus, then I think also Erik ten Hag will not be long to be at Manchester United, because Manchester United wants to get quick success and does not want to wait long from a bad process like this.

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November 19, 2023, 05:35:54 PM
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Manchester United had De Gea but let him off to chase Onana because of his good leg work whereas judging from all areas, De Gea was as keeper with better chances of saving the team from so many unnecessary goals. No doubt that Onana is good but De Gea would have done.
 
 De Gea has this quality of being United's savior in their most critical times and it's now occured to them now that Onana wasn't as good as how much he was rated, they just have to maintain Onana as their goalie hoping that in crucial times, he'd deliver positively. Onana did a lot better with his last team, no one actually knows now what the problem with him is but he sure would make good saves as games come by.

I wasn't excited seeing how they left David De Gea hanging after he came to agreement with the club over the deduction of his salary at Manchester United.
Erik Ten Hag feels that dumping David De Gea was part of his rebuild for the club due to his ball passing skills and abilities. So much on the goalkeeper and less on the defense. I blame all this misfortunes on the owners and then the manager.

David De Gea I don't doubt his qualities and I never wanted to leave, he would have been a good Goal mate with Andrea Onana, with one of them goalkeeping for the Champions League and the other goalkeeping for the Premier League. But tue management and staffs had them own plans at heart. I'm nobody to tell them what to do! Grin

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November 19, 2023, 05:39:51 PM
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I agree with you on this, because Erick Ten Hag was given enough money by Manchester United's management to sign a good striker that will help solve Manchester United's goals scoring issue but Ten Hag chose Hojlund over Victor Osimhen and Harry Kane with the idea of that Hojlund is young and he will score goals for Manchester United in the coming years. Erik Ten Hag's decision to sign Hojlund could cost him his job at Machester United unless he signs another striker in January that will help Manchester United's squad to score goals.
The management appointed Erik Ten Hag to lead the club to glory but it turn out he's not capable for the job. Manchester united is an elite team and it's time they do upgrade their level of football. Watching the Red Devils recorda poor performance is embarrassing especially against average clubs. Erik Ten Hag signing Rasmus Højlund from Atalanta was one of the brilliant signings he triggered this summer, the only problem the new striker faces is been a United player at critical moments. We're all aware about the present declined performance of Manchester United and they're struggling to win games.
Hojlund is a very good and brilliant striker ten hag did signed this season, he has played 15 games for Manchester united, this includes both in the champions league, premier league and the EFL cup, he had scored five goals all of which was in the champion's league with no assist.

I think he does better at the champion's league than he does in the premier league because in the premier league he has got no goals or assist after nine games which is not a very healthy records for a striker. But then he looks promising because he is still very young and is less injury prone and he as well plays brilliantly just that he is yet to get the records but I think with time he will do better if he is able to stay consistent with his style of play.

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November 19, 2023, 05:43:45 PM
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Manchester United management is interested in Zidane. And we have been hearing such rumours for a long time. But we don't know if Zidane is interested in becoming the coach of Manchester United. Manchester United management should officially offer Zidane. Having an experienced coach like Zidane will change the whole situation of Manchester United.
Zinadine Zidane already rejected the offer to coach Manchester United in 2021 and I don’t think his opinion has changed.
But maybe it was the price!
I really want to see the legend at the head of the Red Devils.

Zidane is a very different person, I sometimes have difficulty understanding him. He is very successful but can do unpredictable things. That's why a team managed by him can either become champion or finish at the bottom of the league.
I wonder if he can be successful in a team like Manchester. If he signs such a deal, he will want to earn a lot of money, Manchester United is a difficult team Smiley

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November 19, 2023, 06:04:09 PM
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Manchester United management is interested in Zidane. And we have been hearing such rumours for a long time. But we don't know if Zidane is interested in becoming the coach of Manchester United. Manchester United management should officially offer Zidane. Having an experienced coach like Zidane will change the whole situation of Manchester United.
Zinadine Zidane already rejected the offer to coach Manchester United in 2021 and I don’t think his opinion has changed.
But maybe it was the price!
I really want to see the legend at the head of the Red Devils.

Zidane is a very different person, I sometimes have difficulty understanding him. He is very successful but can do unpredictable things. That's why a team managed by him can either become champion or finish at the bottom of the league.
I wonder if he can be successful in a team like Manchester. If he signs such a deal, he will want to earn a lot of money, Manchester United is a difficult team Smiley
It's true, Zidane decision is very difficult to predict, especially regarding his future. There are many events that remind us all of the surprises he has done in the past, both as a player and as a manager. The growing rumors linking him with Manchester United could be true, and it could be that Zidane has rejected the offer previously. Maybe in the future The Red Devils top officials will try to contact him again, as a replacement for Ten Hag, who is currently almost failing to meet the team expectations.

Of course it is true, Zidane will demand many things from club officials to build the squad according to his wishes, especially the budget for spending on players in the transfer window. Apart from that, management must also be able to meet the salary that Zidane wants. If only the Glazer family were willing to relinquish ownership of the club to Sheikh Jassim, then they would not worry about the budget.

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November 19, 2023, 06:19:24 PM
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Injuries are usually bad for players because most of them don't recover after sustaining and been out for a long time while some can still bounce back in good shape. Injuries are consider a big barrier for players. You talking about African players faking injuries for the purpose to stay safe and prepare themselves for major tournaments, reasoning from your perspectives, its quite understandable but not all of them can be able to catch up the high competition stamina. Manchester United goalkeeper, André Onana is injured and will be out for few weeks because it's considered to be a minor injury.
There are many players who are also injured. Aside from onana, son from totenham has been also injuredy during the international break. The international break sometimes gave really bad impact to the club.
The club will be facing the crucial time caused by we are entering the middle of season. Some clubs need also to keep up their stamina as preparation to face the most important match.
Manchester united is still having very important match especially the match against galatasaray. Missing the main goal keeper is bad news for united. Galatasaray has beaten united at old trafford. Manchester united needs to steal three points from galatasaray.
I doubt if the backup goal keeper can do the job to protect the goal net from galatasaray properly.

The international break was really giving bad impact on the club. The club may also lose the players for longterm depending on how serious the injury that happened to the club.
I do not know if it is just me or not, but I feel like lately that has been more and more common, maybe it's just me but I think I feel like there are way too many players that end up getting injured a bit more commonly and that results with international break getting a lot more hate.

It used to mean you would be representing your nation, but if these injuries there keep getting more and more common, we may start to see clubs pushing players to just reject playing, and not like players would need a big reason, they could just say they got injured and reject to go, and sure they can play during summer probably and yes you can get a big injury that will go on maybe for a whole year, but at least if it's small thing then you will be ready, whereas if it's during winter, like when season is going on, you are missing the most important games. That's not really all that reasonable, and club fans are starting to hate international break because their players are getting injured there all the time.

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November 19, 2023, 06:30:33 PM
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Brighton new frontline player, Ansu Fati is not keen to make permanent move to Brighton as he seeks to make a u-turn to Camp Nou to prove himself for Xavi Hernandez and his teammates. We know how the team depended on Ansu Fati during difficult times but he vanishes and succumb to severe injuries that made him unfit for league games and the incredible reputation he was trying to build ruined. Some Barcelona fans showering him praises as Leo Messi replacement and the club handed him the memorable jersey 10 and he turn to a flop.

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November 19, 2023, 06:32:56 PM
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I agree with you on this, because Erick Ten Hag was given enough money by Manchester United's management to sign a good striker that will help solve Manchester United's goals scoring issue but Ten Hag chose Hojlund over Victor Osimhen and Harry Kane with the idea of that Hojlund is young and he will score goals for Manchester United in the coming years. Erik Ten Hag's decision to sign Hojlund could cost him his job at Machester United unless he signs another striker in January that will help Manchester United's squad to score goals.

Yes, basically Ten Hag has received enough budget from Manchester United management to be used in the interests of the club such as buying several players who are considered capable or have the potential to help improve the performance of his squad, Ten Hag has got good facilities there but the problem is that he cannot use it properly according to what his team needs. In my opinion, it seems that Ten Hag did not really see from various sides of what they really needed to strengthen their performance in terms of choosing players, so he acted with the wrong decision in choosing Hojlund who turned out to be far from expectations, instead of benefiting from a performance that was believed but the opposite happened, nothing promising and instead ended up causing many indications and disasters that had happened to his club.

Of course, by not being able to make the right decisions which resulted in the team's performance even worse, one of the possibilities that could happen is that Ten Hag will be fired as coach, he is considered unable to manage his team properly and not in accordance with what management and their fans expect. I honestly don't really know what Ten Hag will do next, and yes maybe one of the possibilities is that he will look for another striker candidate, but that is still doubtful.

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November 19, 2023, 06:34:21 PM
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Brighton new frontline player, Ansu Fati is not keen to make permanent move to Brighton as he seeks to make a u-turn to Camp Nou to prove himself for Xavi Hernandez and his teammates. We know how the team depended on Ansu Fati during difficult times but he vanishes and succumb to severe injuries that made him unfit for league games and the incredible reputation he was trying to build ruined. Some Barcelona fans showering him praises as Leo Messi replacement and the club handed him the memorable jersey 10 and he turn to a flop.
I don't know about others but I think that Ansu Fati would not be as big as we all thought he would be, I think in the first place he was under so much pressure to be great by both Barcelona his then football club and the Spanish national team.
I believe he would not be a bad player but I see him going around the smaller teams in the English premier league and having a long career doing so.

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Brighton new frontline player, Ansu Fati is not keen to make permanent move to Brighton as he seeks to make a u-turn to Camp Nou to prove himself for Xavi Hernandez and his teammates. We know how the team depended on Ansu Fati during difficult times but he vanishes and succumb to severe injuries that made him unfit for league games and the incredible reputation he was trying to build ruined. Some Barcelona fans showering him praises as Leo Messi replacement and the club handed him the memorable jersey 10 and he turn to a flop.

Ansu Fati as a player I am sure have big prospects for his career just like every other players. Given two options to chose between playing for Brighton and Barcelona, you will quickly rush to go and play for Barcelona especially when theirs a lot of hope that you will get enough playing time in the team. Ansu Fati’s problem was injury and inconsistent performance but after joining Brighton he has now proven himself worthy of been Messi’s replacement, he just needs to be consistent with this effort till the end of the season. I see no reason why Xavi won’t put him back into the team and help the team propel. They are seriously in need of attackers and young players, Ansu Fati just fits in best into those positions.

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November 19, 2023, 07:08:32 PM
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Zidane is a very different person, I sometimes have difficulty understanding him. He is very successful but can do unpredictable things. That's why a team managed by him can either become champion or finish at the bottom of the league.
I wonder if he can be successful in a team like Manchester. If he signs such a deal, he will want to earn a lot of money, Manchester United is a difficult team Smiley
It's true, Zidane decision is very difficult to predict, especially regarding his future. There are many events that remind us all of the surprises he has done in the past, both as a player and as a manager. The growing rumors linking him with Manchester United could be true, and it could be that Zidane has rejected the offer previously. Maybe in the future The Red Devils top officials will try to contact him again, as a replacement for Ten Hag, who is currently almost failing to meet the team expectations.

Of course it is true, Zidane will demand many things from club officials to build the squad according to his wishes, especially the budget for spending on players in the transfer window. Apart from that, management must also be able to meet the salary that Zidane wants. If only the Glazer family were willing to relinquish ownership of the club to Sheikh Jassim, then they would not worry about the budget.

The rumors that have developed so far cannot be trusted because as has happened before, Zidane rejected the offer because his wife did not want to move to England. He has also turned down several other teams including PSG, but I think he would have a very hard time turning down Real Madrid's offer should they want to sign him once again next season.

Zidane was not brave enough to build a club that was in decline because he knew he would probably fail to revive its statistics. Zidane has won many titles with Real Madrid and has made himself one of the most successful coaches with the club, but of course he would be very worried if his reputation was damaged just because he failed to win titles for another team. I hope my assumption is not correct, but that's what I think is why Zidane hasn't wanted to coach any other club besides Real Madrid all this time.

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November 19, 2023, 07:15:40 PM
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Brighton new frontline player, Ansu Fati is not keen to make permanent move to Brighton as he seeks to make a u-turn to Camp Nou to prove himself for Xavi Hernandez and his teammates. We know how the team depended on Ansu Fati during difficult times but he vanishes and succumb to severe injuries that made him unfit for league games and the incredible reputation he was trying to build ruined. Some Barcelona fans showering him praises as Leo Messi replacement and the club handed him the memorable jersey 10 and he turn to a flop.
I think why doesn't he just think about his career in England? considering that he is now an important figure at Brighton. I know Brighton is not a team as big as Barcelona but if he continues to improve his performance well then more teams will be interested in signing him. Moreover, at Brighton he will always be a starter so his good record as a player will continue to improve.

I don't think Ansu Fati should continue his career at Barcelona and become the next Lionel Messi because that is impossible and until now there has been no worthy successor. This is the same as Manchester United, since Cristiano Ronaldo left, there has been no player to become his successor until now. It is very difficult to catch the statistics of these two GOATs.

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November 19, 2023, 07:25:18 PM
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It was earlier reported that Andre Onana was injured in the game between Cameroon and Mauritius but the latest development from the incident suggests that the injury is a very minor one as the Cameroon international is expected to be fit for Manchester United clash with Everton next weekend before a crucial UEFA Champions League game at Galatasaray..
One thing I've come to realize is the most players especially from the African region are very good in faking injuries during the qualifyers because they want to regularly play for their respective clubs but will always want to feature for their countries during major tournaments and that I think is a bad omen
Injuries are usually bad for players because most of them don't recover after sustaining and been out for a long time while some can still bounce back in good shape. Injuries are consider a big barrier for players. You talking about African players faking injuries for the purpose to stay safe and prepare themselves for major tournaments, reasoning from your perspectives, its quite understandable but not all of them can be able to catch up the high competition stamina. Manchester United goalkeeper, André Onana is injured and will be out for few weeks because it's considered to be a minor injury.
There are many players who are also injured. Aside from onana, son from totenham has been also injuredy during the international break. The international break sometimes gave really bad impact to the club.
The club will be facing the crucial time caused by we are entering the middle of season. Some clubs need also to keep up their stamina as preparation to face the most important match.
Manchester united is still having very important match especially the match against galatasaray. Missing the main goal keeper is bad news for united. Galatasaray has beaten united at old trafford. Manchester united needs to steal three points from galatasaray.
I doubt if the backup goal keeper can do the job to protect the goal net from galatasaray properly.

The international break was really giving bad impact on the club. The club may also lose the players for longterm depending on how serious the injury that happened to the club.
This is why some International breaks matches, some coaches don't allow their key players to partake in the because whatever comes out from the international matches, it's the clubs that end up suffering it while the country football team doesn't suffer it most.
In the case of Manchester United, it's time for them to put to test their second player since Andre Onana is on injury. Who knows if the substitute goalkeeper can perform more than expected in the Manchester United match against Galatasaray

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Salah scoring 4 on international duty, Szoboszlai scored 2 as Hungary topped their group in Euro 24 qualifying. Luis Diaz scored 2 in a big win against Brazil, Darwin Nunez bagged against Argentina.

Liverpool players on fire during the international break. We take on Man City next weekend, huge game. Will be tough to get a positive result at The Etihad but we look in good shape.

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De Gea is a good goalkeeper in saving skills and he loves Manchester United after many years there. If Manchester United and Ten Hag were more cleverly, they would have been kept De Gea in their club and use him as an alternative goalkeeper for Onana. I believe De Gea will accept that position as so far he did not join any club.
De Gea really wanted to stay in Manchester United, he is really in love with Manchester United, but ten hag really made the mistake of sending him out of the club. I am not against Ten Hag signing Onana, but he should have just kept De Gea as the second goalkeeper. Now that he is not getting what he wanted from Onana, De Gea will have been available as backup. De Gea was ready to accept a pay cut just to stay in Manchester United, it shows that he really wanted to stay in United.

Onana is over rated because he has better passing skills than De Gea but in general, combining all skills of a goalkeeper, I think he is not a better goalkeeper than De Gea. Hopefully Ten Hag will not have to pay an expensive cost by his coach position because of his belief in Onana.
The only reason why Ten Hag wanted Onana was just because of the passing skill, and that’s the only way that Onana is better than De Gea, but we all know De Gea to be a better goalkeeper than Onana. Ten hag had confidence in Onana, hoping he was going to perform better, but everyone hasn’t been satisfied with Onana’s performance yet since he was signed. He has been conceding lots of goals, but I am not blaming Onana alone for that. Manchester United’s defense is so weak, which has contributed to Onana conceding goals in most of their matches.

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