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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 90 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 32 (16.5%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.1%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.2%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.5%)
Total Voters: 194

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November 08, 2021, 05:53:13 PM
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Perhaps after the break for the national teams, we will again see a series of failures for the top clubs, since they suffer the most from the fact that a much larger part of their roster (compared to smaller clubs), instead of resting, spend their energy in national team matches. Those who are lucky enough to pass this stage with less losses will get a good advantage.
They suffer more from injuries which will cost them a player for several weeks rather than exhausted players which could recover in few days Wink
In the next round, there is many interesting games, Chelsea - Leicester, Wolves - West Ham, Liverpool - Arsenal and Man City - Everton. We all have a favourite team in mind but I have the feeling that the result won't be as clear as that!
When it comes to Watford and ManU, odds are @6 - @1.5 respectively. Wonder know if ManU won't embarrass themselves in this match

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November 08, 2021, 06:05:37 PM
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After going through several games with successive defeats, this time there is news that Ole will be sacked from his position if his team loses their match against Chelsea.  But this could have happened sooner because in the next Champions League they will also be competing with other teams.  United's team has also been frustrated by the lack of direction from Ole.  But the funny thing is why the new management is thinking seriously now, even the name of Ole's replacement is also quite foreign to me because it was previously reported that Conte replaced him but it turned out to be different.  Currently, the candidate for Ole's replacement is RB Leipzig.  Is he really capable of bringing this team back up?
I don't think they will be strong enough to beat Chelsea, they will either lose or draw the game. Manchester united performance lately have been terrible, and that is literally because their Coach lack good strategies in winning matches. Replacing Ole will definitely be a good step, what I don't understand is why the management have kept him up till now. Before playing against Chelsea, they will face Watford in an away match, it might seems as an easy winning for United, but don't be surprised if they end up drawing the match.



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November 08, 2021, 06:09:03 PM
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David Moyes magic is really working for West Ham as from relegation fight to know they are a strong contender for having spot in top 4 shocked all soccer world what a performance and what a team now. Today they completely outclass Liverpool in all wings, Just Salah was some better but all others done nothing serious in this match.

Now it's very interesting fight at top because just Manchester City able to have all points Chelsea lost 2 points with Liverpool is also now slipping. After break, we have some more exciting games which are going to have some good impact on league table but Chelsea, Manchester City and West Ham going to stay here for some time.

The competition is getting more and more interesting and the players have an increase in the transfer price market next season. Of the 4 big clubs who are elbowing each other, of course there are those who benefit from each other. Although in the league this time they have to follow strict rules. The price increase is soaring and in the next season we can see the new most expensive league Star.

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November 08, 2021, 06:14:09 PM
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After going through several games with successive defeats, this time there is news that Ole will be sacked from his position if his team loses their match against Chelsea.  But this could have happened sooner because in the next Champions League they will also be competing with other teams.  United's team has also been frustrated by the lack of direction from Ole.  But the funny thing is why the new management is thinking seriously now, even the name of Ole's replacement is also quite foreign to me because it was previously reported that Conte replaced him but it turned out to be different.  Currently, the candidate for Ole's replacement is RB Leipzig.  Is he really capable of bringing this team back up?
I don't think they will be strong enough to beat Chelsea, they will either lose or draw the game. Manchester united performance lately have been terrible, and that is literally because their Coach lack good strategies in winning matches. Replacing Ole will definitely be a good step, what I don't understand is why the management have kept him up till now. Before playing against Chelsea, they will face Watford in an away match, it might seems as an easy winning for United, but don't be surprised if they end up drawing the match.
Ole's direction doesn't really feel like Man United's players, it's actually worse than yesterday's losing match but indeed Ole is always defended and maintained by management, so many protest that Ole's ability will not improve if he continues to be at Man United.
Against Watford also shouldn't be underestimated as it could be a loss or a draw and this is often the case at other top clubs, so if Ole doesn't change at all it's going to be even worse.

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November 08, 2021, 06:20:54 PM
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I think Ole doesn't give the players a good mentality so this tends to not have a good attitude so it will be very different from the past until now and nowadays it always relies on strategy and that's how it is from the coach himself, for me Ole still unable to give mental to his care.
Even if Ronaldo, Bruno, Pogba are talented players, if they are surrounded by mentally deficient people, it will follow him and not improve, but his performance will decrease even more.
Ole is a coach with a different nature from many other coach who have coached Manchester United. He doesn't talk much, but I think the players respect him more than Van Gaal. Manchester United have never had a better coach than Alex Ferguson until now. Although currently changing coach is the most ideal solution, it is still difficult for them to return to their best form.

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November 08, 2021, 06:48:48 PM
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Ole's direction doesn't really feel like Man United's players, it's actually worse than yesterday's losing match but indeed Ole is always defended and maintained by management, so many protest that Ole's ability will not improve if he continues to be at Man United.
If a club is not performing well, there is nothing bad to sack the manager of the club. Man United is still trying but not trying as expected. Let us expect their next away match to be won.

Against Watford also shouldn't be underestimated as it could be a loss or a draw and this is often the case at other top clubs, so if Ole doesn't change at all it's going to be even worse.
Watford at 17th position in total EPL table, 18th position in home table, 12th position in away table. Watford is better at away than home this season. Manchester City is not also Watford, it is clear that Manchester City have more chance to win Manchester United. I am expecting Manchester United to win Watford in their next meeting.

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November 08, 2021, 06:49:12 PM
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Atletico Madrid have already lost to Liverpool twice recently despite having so many star players in their squad, and it was surely not an easy task for West Ham to beat Liverpool with the limited number of star players in their squad. I wonder how did David Moyes messed up as the manager of Manchester United in the past when he had so many star players under his lead. I guess it will be interesting to see if David Moyes could lead West Ham to gain a spot as one of the top four teams on the table in the English Premier League at the end of this season.

What do star players have to do with it? The presence of star players does not mean that the team wins the game or that the team is undefeated. These players still need to learn how to play and find the so-called chemistry of the squad, and only then think about winning. What good are the most "star" players if they don't understand each other on the field?  Smiley

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November 08, 2021, 06:53:15 PM
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After going through several games with successive defeats, this time there is news that Ole will be sacked from his position if his team loses their match against Chelsea.  But this could have happened sooner because in the next Champions League they will also be competing with other teams.  United's team has also been frustrated by the lack of direction from Ole.  But the funny thing is why the new management is thinking seriously now, even the name of Ole's replacement is also quite foreign to me because it was previously reported that Conte replaced him but it turned out to be different.  Currently, the candidate for Ole's replacement is RB Leipzig.  Is he really capable of bringing this team back up?

I doubt that he will be dismissed, from what I see the Manchester players lack discipline and lack of commitment, the part that the coach makes mistakes Is that when he wins a game without conceding a goal he doesn't keep the same formation and the same players, he changes everything in the game safely and does it constantly and that makes the team not stable, to this day I don't understand why he doesn't let Marcus Rashford play every game from the beginning, he should also bet on Edinson Cavani

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November 08, 2021, 06:55:37 PM
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Arsenal can be proud of their unbeaten record in the last 8 matches in the Premier League, It's a great achievement for Arsenal after starting the season so badly. Arsenal began to experience changes when they beat Norwich, after that Arsenal's performance began to improve and be consistent. But at the beginning of the season Arsenal were beaten by Chelsea and Man City without being able to score goals, this is proof that Arsenal have difficulty developing the game when facing a big team. Moreover, Liverpool's defeat against West Ham was Liverpool's first defeat in the Premier League this season, then like you said Liverpool players must be very motivated to beat Arsenal. This will be one of the toughest matches for Arsenal, but if Arsenal can at least make the game end in a draw, it's been a very good result for Arsenal.
I didn't know they were doing good at all. I wasn't checking them to be honest and I do not wager on their games most of the time so I didn't know if they were winning or losing, never cared. After reading here I was like "HUGE RISE??" then I checked and Arsenal is 5th right now in the league. That is a serious achievement and I have to say they are really doing better than I ever expected.

Hopefully they will continue their success, premier league needs more teams to fight for a title aside from Liverpool and city. United, Chelsea, arsenal all trying to win something would mean that there would actually be some entertaining football that actually means something in the end.

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November 08, 2021, 06:57:05 PM
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Arsenal's huge rise on the last weeks is very noticeable these days. They were on the brink of having one of their worst seasons considering the first weeks. People talked about the possibility of the manager Mikel Arteta's getting sacked immediately after getting very poor results. But somehow, Arsenal still managed to be reborn with Arteta and started getting very satisfactory results. They got 6 wins and 2 draws in their last 8 EPL games which is a really huge success for them. Now we are seeing them at the 5th position being only 2 points behind Liverpool and 6 points behind the leader, Chelsea.
Arsenal's performance was really beyond expectation especially when compared to their performance at the start of the league I think it's inversely proportional to their current form.
they are unbeaten for 6 matches and are pushing back to chase the top spot. because indeed they are now in 5th position with even 3 points less than 2nd position.

It's an extraordinary achievement for Arteta and this is probably why he was willing to bet early on in the league while still not wanting to be sacked from the arsenal.
this is the best proof of arteta so far only we will see if they can maintain this form or not.

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November 08, 2021, 07:12:24 PM
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1. Chelsea - 26 points
2. Manchester City - 23 points
3. West Ham - 23 points
4. Liverpool - 22 points

West Ham are performing just insanely this season that's for sure.  Cheesy
There is a lot of pressure mounting at the top just from looking at how the points are spread-out and any team that drops points from now on are declared out of the race for sure...And if you compare the Leicester City team that won the premier league a few years ago to this West Ham side...i see some similarities as these are all average players with no big names to over shadow the team which makes them a dangerous team. It would be worth putting some money on the hammers to win this 2021/2022 league    Roll Eyes

Of course, there is a probability for them to be the champions this season too. We can't see such things as impossible when it comes to the Premier League. I clearly remember the time that Leicester won the title with Claudio Ranieri. They dominated the whole season and won the title by having a 10-point gap with their closest opponent which was Arsenal. It was a really interesting season as Arsenal were the 2nd and Tottenham were the 3rd.  Grin  Maybe Tottenham are not in a good shape now but Arsenal started getting there. Anyway, West Ham can make it to the title as long as they maintain this form. But this time, it wouldn't be too easy.
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November 08, 2021, 07:55:37 PM
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I doubt that he will be dismissed, from what I see the Manchester players lack discipline and lack of commitment, the part that the coach makes mistakes Is that when he wins a game without conceding a goal he doesn't keep the same formation and the same players, he changes everything in the game safely and does it constantly and that makes the team not stable

Exactly this but I've had some conversations with some friends lately about this and this is kinda like a different POV. Fans tend to blame Ole for this but some other POV would be that signing Ronaldo is the reason on why Manchester United failed to impress so far.

Its not that I dont like Ronaldo coming back to Old Trafford but Ole and his squad was 2nd last season. Ole had his desired squad from last season + Varane and Sancho, he basically had everything planned out then boom Manchester United sign Ronaldo. He had to change everything to suit Ronaldo's playstyle because of this then he failed to do so and I personally think this is a quite exciting POV though

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November 08, 2021, 07:56:26 PM
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Atletico Madrid have already lost to Liverpool twice recently despite having so many star players in their squad, and it was surely not an easy task for West Ham to beat Liverpool with the limited number of star players in their squad. I wonder how did David Moyes messed up as the manager of Manchester United in the past when he had so many star players under his lead. I guess it will be interesting to see if David Moyes could lead West Ham to gain a spot as one of the top four teams on the table in the English Premier League at the end of this season.
I think there is a difference between coaching man united and west ham because man united as a big club there is much pressure on their managers to win titles, that is why many managers failed because they are not given the appropriate time since many come with their own game strategy and sometimes they fail in adopting it but i think he is already succeeding in west ham like he succeded in everton he made a strong team out of them.
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November 08, 2021, 07:58:25 PM
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The same way Antonio Conte won the premier league with Chelsea that's how Arteta's Arsenal team will win the league,they are only playing the premier league and Fa Cup, enough game time for them to rest.
The only hindrance that will end disrupting this will be injuries,the Gunner's are doing just good.

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November 08, 2021, 08:38:04 PM
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The same way Antonio Conte won the premier league with Chelsea that's how Arteta's Arsenal team will win the league,they are only playing the premier league and Fa Cup, enough game time for them to rest.
The only hindrance that will end disrupting this will be injuries,the Gunner's are doing just good.
Few weeks back Arteta was most talked person in English Premier League just because of his strategy was not working and Arsenal were struggling very badly, but he was on his way, and now they are doing very good and having top Fifth rank is amazing job by gunners under good leadership of Arteta hopefully now they will keep this momentum and stay at top level because they have less pressure like have other clubs playing at Champions League/Europa League and then Premier League and FA Cup.

Recently few concerns already rising from many sides about work load in English Premier League which is hurting teams very badly, but they are not listening if they are able to have some less work load than surely these teams can do much better in local and European Leagues.

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November 08, 2021, 08:56:32 PM
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Atletico Madrid have already lost to Liverpool twice recently despite having so many star players in their squad, and it was surely not an easy task for West Ham to beat Liverpool with the limited number of star players in their squad. I wonder how did David Moyes messed up as the manager of Manchester United in the past when he had so many star players under his lead. I guess it will be interesting to see if David Moyes could lead West Ham to gain a spot as one of the top four teams on the table in the English Premier League at the end of this season.
I think there is a difference between coaching man united and west ham because man united as a big club there is much pressure on their managers to win titles, that is why many managers failed because they are not given the appropriate time since many come with their own game strategy and sometimes they fail in adopting it but i think he is already succeeding in west ham like he succeded in everton he made a strong team out of them.
As you said, being the coach of a team that has a great history and pursuing the goal of winning is very difficult, especially in terms of mentality and performance.
because like it or not they have to really rack their brains for the purpose they want to carry out.
maybe Moyes is very good at coaching West Ham, but that doesn't mean Moyes will play well at Manchester United.
The club level is also very different so we can't generalize about it.

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November 08, 2021, 09:44:16 PM
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Few weeks back Arteta was most talked person in English Premier League just because of his strategy was not working and Arsenal were struggling very badly, but he was on his way, and now they are doing very good and having top Fifth rank is amazing job by gunners under good leadership of Arteta hopefully now they will keep this momentum and stay at top level because they have less pressure like have other clubs playing at Champions League/Europa League and then Premier League and FA Cup.
I would hate for it to get my hopes up only to get broken for Arsenal. So, I'm still very skeptical of there performance I don't think Arteta is really of the hook yet or would be making it to the top 4 in the EPL. Facts be told, Arteta has done well lately, looking at how Arsenal started the season, loosing 3 straight games and it seemed they were not I'm the transfer market or wasn't ready for the season.
It seemed Arteta switched places from being the lost talked about with Ole. Ole is at the forefront of it now and it's not looking good for Manchester United at all.



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November 08, 2021, 09:59:28 PM
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The same way Antonio Conte won the premier league with Chelsea that's how Arteta's Arsenal team will win the league,they are only playing the premier league and Fa Cup, enough game time for them to rest.
The only hindrance that will end disrupting this will be injuries,the Gunner's are doing just good.

That's a bold one. Especially when talking about a club like Arsenal that hardly competes for trophies. I highly doubt that Arsenal would win the premier league this season not even by a long shot. Arsenal might have been doing good in recent times but I love to see how they fare against a team at the top 5 positions in the table.

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November 08, 2021, 10:01:38 PM
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...I wonder how did David Moyes messed up as the manager of Manchester United in the past when he had so many star players under his lead.
Most of us think he wasn't ready to take up the pressure of filling a big shoes in SAF and the pressure to deliver results for a club with a bigger fan base. The "team culture" is probably something he didn't expect as well.

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I guess it will be interesting to see if David Moyes could lead West Ham to gain a spot as one of the top four teams on the table in the English Premier League at the end of this season.
He could do it. He was doing well with Everton and was able to lead that team to CL spot once if I'm not mistaken.
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November 08, 2021, 10:02:41 PM
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Atletico Madrid have already lost to Liverpool twice recently despite having so many star players in their squad, and it was surely not an easy task for West Ham to beat Liverpool with the limited number of star players in their squad. I wonder how did David Moyes messed up as the manager of Manchester United in the past when he had so many star players under his lead. I guess it will be interesting to see if David Moyes could lead West Ham to gain a spot as one of the top four teams on the table in the English Premier League at the end of this season.
I think there is a difference between coaching man united and west ham because man united as a big club there is much pressure on their managers to win titles, that is why many managers failed because they are not given the appropriate time since many come with their own game strategy and sometimes they fail in adopting it but i think he is already succeeding in west ham like he succeded in everton he made a strong team out of them.
As you said, being the coach of a team that has a great history and pursuing the goal of winning is very difficult, especially in terms of mentality and performance.
because like it or not they have to really rack their brains for the purpose they want to carry out.
maybe Moyes is very good at coaching West Ham, but that doesn't mean Moyes will play well at Manchester United.
The club level is also very different so we can't generalize about it.

David Moyes is a good coach, we've gotten to see that,how consistent they can be for the past three seasons.
Coaches suit big clubs,some coaches doesn't,and David Moyes are one of those that doesn't suit's a big team but the under-dogs.
The hammer's are just perfect for him to handle.

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