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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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April 11, 2023, 12:27:32 PM
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Arsenal winning west ham united is a guarantee, Arsenal don't find it hard beating smaller teams that they should be winning this season and that's what have given them so much point. The situation that  gives Arsenal some issue is when they're playing bigger sides like Manchester city or united and as we just saw them in last game drawing against Liverpool.
There are no guarantees in the EPL, of course Arsenal are the favorites for victory in that game, but they are not guaranteed to be victorious. Arsenal drew to Liverpool and the players were visibly disappointed, it looks like a game that could have dampened their confidence a little bit, but we'll see if that is the case when they play West Ham this weekend. Having said that, the title race is definitely going down to the wire, both City and Arsenal now have their destiny in their own hands, win all your games and you are champions, we'd have to find out who can do it, or who'll get the most points from now until the end of the season.
We tend to see more surprises toward the end of the season. Most teams will be doing everything to escape relegation, others will be chasing continental tickets and a few will be seeking to win the league. There is no guarantee that Arsenal will win the game against West Ham United because the Hammers have not fully escaped relegation. They would pit in their best in that game to at least secure a point.

Arsenal was fortunate to get a point in that game because Liverpool had more opportunities to increase the goal margin. Salah missed a penalty that would have given the team more advantage in the game. Although I also think that the penalty was unjustly awarded. But it's good to see that Liverpool is still fighting for the top four positions.

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April 11, 2023, 02:00:48 PM
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It is also difficult for Liverpool to finish in the top four this season Liverpool is 12 points behind fourth-placed Tottenham in the premier league. All Reds have kept their unbeaten record against Arsenal intact for a decade man city has gained as Liverpool drew. The citizens are now breathing down Arsenal's neck in the title race but Arsenal's biggest worry is that they still have one match left in the league against City.
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Arsenal winning west ham united is a guarantee,
You're saying there's no chance of losing? Arsenal has been pretty good I admit and they may actually get three precious points but to claim that their win is guaranteed is not something I would do unless I'm an all knowing person hehe. Would be nice to know how much are you willing to bet on the Gunners to confidently say that. I wouldn't bet my house for sure as I know there is always the possibility of an upset.

It is also difficult for Liverpool to finish in the top four this season Liverpool is 12 points behind fourth-placed Tottenham in the premier league.
Man United is currently in fourth place.
Tottenham is fifth and 9 points ahead of Liverpool.

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April 11, 2023, 02:17:14 PM
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They have four big games against some good teams in terms of their squad or their form which are City, Chelsea, Newcastle and Brighton. We need to win all of these in order to keep ourselves in title race. With Saliba injury, thing doesn't looks good but Holding have been performing well so far. Still we have been conceding goals which is a slight concern for us. At this point, I hope City drop some points before we face them as it would ease slight pressure in my opinion.
Arsenal have key players in the team, Saliba injured would affect the defendline, however they got Gabriel and Zinchenko who are experience and knows how to tackle the ball from their opponents. Gunners fixtures is tough and they will struggle to grab three points in these upcoming games. Knot a draw tie against Liverpool, that game was supposed to be a confident victory for gunners but they allowed Liverpool to put more on them in the second halve. More talks about City, Chelsea, Newcastle and Brighton. Definitely a game we wouldn't missed, afterall there's enough top actions in each of the game.
Yes Brother Arsenal has important players on the team. If Saliba were injured the defence would suffer but Gabriel and Zinchenko are seasoned professional who can take the ball away from their opponents. Gunners schedule are challenging thus they will have difficult time earning three point in these forthcoming contests. The Arsenal were expected easily defeat Liverpool but instead they allowed Liverpool to put more pressure on them in  second half resulting in a stalemate. Discussion about City Chelsea Newcastle and Brighton continue. Unquestionably a match we would not miss since each game has plenty of top notch action.

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April 11, 2023, 02:38:33 PM
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They have four big games against some good teams in terms of their squad or their form which are City, Chelsea, Newcastle and Brighton. We need to win all of these in order to keep ourselves in title race. With Saliba injury, thing doesn't looks good but Holding have been performing well so far. Still we have been conceding goals which is a slight concern for us. At this point, I hope City drop some points before we face them as it would ease slight pressure in my opinion.
Arsenal have key players in the team, Saliba injured would affect the defendline, however they got Gabriel and Zinchenko who are experience and knows how to tackle the ball from their opponents. Gunners fixtures is tough and they will struggle to grab three points in these upcoming games. Knot a draw tie against Liverpool, that game was supposed to be a confident victory for gunners but they allowed Liverpool to put more on them in the second halve. More talks about City, Chelsea, Newcastle and Brighton. Definitely a game we wouldn't missed, afterall there's enough top actions in each of the game.
Yes Brother Arsenal has important players on the team. If Saliba were injured the defence would suffer but Gabriel and Zinchenko are seasoned professional who can take the ball away from their opponents. Gunners schedule are challenging thus they will have difficult time earning three point in these forthcoming contests. The Arsenal were expected easily defeat Liverpool but instead they allowed Liverpool to put more pressure on them in  second half resulting in a stalemate. Discussion about City Chelsea Newcastle and Brighton continue. Unquestionably a match we would not miss since each game has plenty of top notch action.

I think Arsenal's title hope will lies on their upcoming four big matches against Manchester City, Chelsea, Newcastle and Brighton which will start from ending of this month April, if they lose more points from this matches mentioned above, means that Manchester city will over take them in winning the premier League title. But for now they still have chances of winning it as they remain 6 point clear of the runners up Manchester city. They all need to take all their matches more seriously than ever.
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April 11, 2023, 02:45:18 PM
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Arsenal winning west ham united is a guarantee, Arsenal don't find it hard beating smaller teams that they should be winning this season and that's what have given them so much point. The situation that  gives Arsenal some issue is when they're playing bigger sides like Manchester city or united and as we just saw them in last game drawing against Liverpool.
There are no guarantees in the EPL, of course Arsenal are the favorites for victory in that game, but they are not guaranteed to be victorious. Arsenal drew to Liverpool and the players were visibly disappointed, it looks like a game that could have dampened their confidence a little bit, but we'll see if that is the case when they play West Ham this weekend. Having said that, the title race is definitely going down to the wire, both City and Arsenal now have their destiny in their own hands, win all your games and you are champions, we'd have to find out who can do it, or who'll get the most points from now until the end of the season.
I think a draw against Liverpool is normal and even statistically the last head to head Arsenal were able to win at Anfield was back in 2012 and that was about 11 years ago that record hasn't been broken yet. So I wouldn't be surprised if at yesterday's meeting the two returned to a draw. But the next game against West ham can indeed be said to be a strong guarantee of victory. If Arsenal can't win, then Manchester City will be very happy and can shorten the gap in the standings again.

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April 11, 2023, 02:53:05 PM
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Arsenal have key players in the team, Saliba injured would affect the defendline, however they got Gabriel and Zinchenko who are experience and knows how to tackle the ball from their opponents. Gunners fixtures is tough and they will struggle to grab three points in these upcoming games. Knot a draw tie against Liverpool, that game was supposed to be a confident victory for gunners but they allowed Liverpool to put more on them in the second halve. More talks about City, Chelsea, Newcastle and Brighton. Definitely a game we wouldn't missed, afterall there's enough top actions in each of the game.

Saliba is centre back and we don't have a strong centre back like Saliba right now was what I meant earlier. Gabriel is another centre back and he is already there but Zinchenko is a left back and we need him there. You can't make a player out of position unless he has experience and he totally have qualities for it. Also by playing a player out of position a team need to have an alternative to cover up for him. For example: you can't make Partey to play in defence just because he can defend well and by doing so Arsenal need to find a player within their squad to cover for Partey's defensive mid position if he were to play in defence. At some cases like Rodri playing as centre back for Spain in World Cup was different because Spain had pool of players to play in mid position and their coach actually found Rodri as a better option as centre back. Now if we were to play Zinchenko in centre defence it will affect us drastically as it will have effect on how we find spaces from the left hand side and how he dictates in mid when we have the possession. What Zinchenko does for us is a lot as left back so I don't think it is a good decision to play him as centre back.

Right now every game is important and the way last season we missed out on CL, Arteta must be taking every game seriously. Yeah we are having a good momentum but we can't ease out and make a mistake. We have come a long way in this season going strong and just wouldn't want mistakes in the end to take things away what we deserve.
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April 11, 2023, 02:54:36 PM
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Arsenal winning west ham united is a guarantee, Arsenal don't find it hard beating smaller teams that they should be winning this season and that's what have given them so much point. The situation that  gives Arsenal some issue is when they're playing bigger sides like Manchester city or united and as we just saw them in last game drawing against Liverpool.
So, what about the match against everton in the past? I remembered that if there are a bunch of people were saying the same thing like you and arsenal was losing against everton. West ham is good enough as a team right now. Arsenal is on fire, but the possibility to beat arsenal is always there for its opponent if it would be under 1%. I hope that arsenal is going to get another draw against west ham. City will able to take the first place much easier than before.
Any matches until the end of the season will become very interesting match to be watched. Anyone would be putting all of their money on arsenal rather than west ham.  Cheesy


If Arsenal could defeat this big teams then they would had been sure of winning the league already. Manchester city on the other hand can defeat the big teams very easy but find it difficult to win clubs you'll expect them to destroy. West Ham are the perfect team Arsenal needs to build some believe again.
No yet, you're wrong. Please, you can calculate it properly. Arsenal will win if the city draws or loses in the upcoming match on EPL. It's caused by this time arsenal is still having 6 points gap. If city will able to win the matches until the last match of this season and arsenal will be in a difficult situation. Manchester City is still having an opportunity to gain three points from the 1 remaining match they have yet to play.

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April 11, 2023, 03:03:47 PM
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The picture above is a list of dismissals of EPL coaches until this week. There is a unique phenomenon that I noticed in the EPL this time. That is, the issue of dismissing the coach is approaching the end of the season. Many EPL clubs have sacked coaches, especially those in the Relegation Zone. I read there are 12 managers who have been sacked in the Premier League this season. I don't think that's the best guarantee to improve their appearance.  But looking at the analysis, it turns out that 58% of the coach's performance is still ineffective. This year's dismissal of coaches also surpassed the record for the most seasons a coach has been fired.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12854888/does-sacking-a-manager-while-in-relegation-zone-improve-premier-league-survival-hopes

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April 11, 2023, 03:23:19 PM
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well maybe that could happen. that is, for now Manchester City will certainly prioritize their best game against Bayern. but it looks like Manchester City will still be able to beat Leicester City even though maybe in the match against Leicester City we will see that some of Manchester City's main players may not be played. because Manchester City of course have to take care of the main players to avoid injury because after 5 days from the match Manchester City will return to compete against Bayern in the second leg of the UCL quarter-finals. but in the match against Leicester City the worst result for Manchester City is probably a draw. because after all I can't imagine Manchester City will lose at home. so I still believe Manchester City will win or draw against Leicester City.
It is going to be a very hard match for Manchester city today against Bayern.
According to their H2H Bayern has been so hard for Manchester city to beat especiall in the quarter finals.
Man city will have to do a lot of work today to claim their position, their attack and defence needs to be strong because Bayern it is a strong team
But whatever it is I believe Haaland and De Bruyne will make it to the finals with much efforts both physical and emotional.

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April 11, 2023, 03:23:59 PM
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The draw between Liverpool and Arsenal has reversed the chances and the bookies no longer consider Arsenal as the favourites:

Manchester city 1.75

Arsenal 2.05

Arsenal have a slightly more difficult end to the season, plus the bookmakers assume that City will win the head-to-head match, so Arsenal is already an underdog for them. The bookmakers are often right but I hope this is not the case - if City gets the results the bookies think it will be too perfect for them. It doesn't happen like that.

It's not right t say Arsenal is not going to win the title this season just because of the draw they had recently against Liverpool however they could even lose this game but Liverpool was in a good form and they were playing perfectly I don't think if Arsenal should ways win all the games, there is the same situation for Manchester City and they lose points sometimes but still we can't say if Manchester City higher chance or not.

If you doubt the accuracy of the bookmakers' estimates, then you can bet against them - after all, if we assume that Arsenal and City have equal chances, then the imbalance in the odds is quite large  Wink But here we are talking about a significant distance, so (unfortunately) the bookmakers are most likely right, unlike, for example, their assessments of the Bayern-City pair in the Champions League. There the City is clearly overrated.

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April 11, 2023, 03:41:21 PM
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It is also difficult for Liverpool to finish in the top four this season Liverpool is 12 points behind fourth-placed Tottenham in the premier league. All Reds have kept their unbeaten record against Arsenal intact for a decade man city has gained as Liverpool drew. The citizens are now breathing down Arsenal's neck in the title race but Arsenal's biggest worry is that they still have one match left in the league against City.
Even though the top 4 is very difficult for Liverpool to get but at least Liverpool have greater motivation after they managed to make Arsenal chances of championship smaller, in my opinion this season Liverpool has no targets and even klopp said if they might completely overhaul the team next season, the draw that was obtained in that match was indeed quite disappointing, especially for Arsenal fans, but looking at the games of the two teams, of course it was a fair result, speaking of Arsenal, it seems that whether they champioship or not, will determined by the match against Manchester City later and in my opinion it will be difficult for Arsenal to beat manchester city at etihad stadium

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April 11, 2023, 03:45:51 PM
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The picture above is a list of dismissals of EPL coaches until this week. There is a unique phenomenon that I noticed in the EPL this time. That is, the issue of dismissing the coach is approaching the end of the season. Many EPL clubs have sacked coaches, especially those in the Relegation Zone. I read there are 12 managers who have been sacked in the Premier League this season. I don't think that's the best guarantee to improve their appearance.  But looking at the analysis, it turns out that 58% of the coach's performance is still ineffective.
The are some decent coaches on this list. I still think the Chelsea board or new owners made the biggest mistake when they decided to sack Tuchel. They should have trusted him more and gave him more time to rebuild since they were coming from a transition period after Abramovich. The club probably never experienced that kind of situation before so it was expected that the team will be disorderly during that period.

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This year's dismissal of coaches also surpassed the record for the most seasons a coach has been fired.
It looks like Patience is a thing of the past now. It's hard for managers to get the desired results as it is and the "time limit" makes it even tougher.

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April 11, 2023, 03:46:47 PM
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Top 4 that will no longer work, but Newcastle United is a team that does not have a lot of experience yet. It is possible that they will drop some points, but 12 points is just too much. 6 points might have been manageable. Finishing 4th doesn't suit Liverpool's form at all either, as Liverpool are having a dramatic season so what better reflection than not finishing in the top 4? Liverpool is unthinkable from the CL, but this season it was quite hopeless against Real Madrid in the eighth final. It looks like we won't see any surprises in the European games from qualifying, or maybe a team could still qualify through the FA cup.

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April 11, 2023, 03:52:14 PM
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The picture above is a list of dismissals of EPL coaches until this week. There is a unique phenomenon that I noticed in the EPL this time. That is, the issue of dismissing the coach is approaching the end of the season. Many EPL clubs have sacked coaches, especially those in the Relegation Zone. -snip

I think their decision to sacked their coach were actually not carried out properly. Therefore, even though these clubs have replaced the previous coach, the players are still having difficulties to show their best performance. For example, Chelsea, although they have changed coaches twice this season, still do not bring good results. Leicester are still in the red zone. It seems that it is not the coach who makes the results of the game bad, but there is a possibility that the players don't have good mentality to play well. For example, Tottenham, Conte is a good coach, in fact Conte has to criticize players and officials. It could be that other coaches experienced similar things that had difficulty winning. Klopp, with Liverpool he find a struggle to bring his players to best performance.

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April 11, 2023, 04:03:05 PM
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The draw between Liverpool and Arsenal has reversed the chances and the bookies no longer consider Arsenal as the favourites:

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Arsenal have a slightly more difficult end to the season, plus the bookmakers assume that City will win the head-to-head match, so Arsenal is already an underdog for them. The bookmakers are often right but I hope this is not the case - if City gets the results the bookies think it will be too perfect for them. It doesn't happen like that.

It's not right t say Arsenal is not going to win the title this season just because of the draw they had recently against Liverpool however they could even lose this game but Liverpool was in a good form and they were playing perfectly I don't think if Arsenal should ways win all the games, there is the same situation for Manchester City and they lose points sometimes but still we can't say if Manchester City higher chance or not.

If you doubt the accuracy of the bookmakers' estimates, then you can bet against them - after all, if we assume that Arsenal and City have equal chances, then the imbalance in the odds is quite large  Wink But here we are talking about a significant distance, so (unfortunately) the bookmakers are most likely right, unlike, for example, their assessments of the Bayern-City pair in the Champions League. There the City is clearly overrated.

In the case of Arsenal not winning the league this season I can't doubt because it's becoming tougher than I expected and the probability of them winning the league is becoming slim due to their current positions and point difference, Arsenal may be doing a good job since the beginning of the season but the chances of Manchester city overcoming them is possible due to the games they are going to face and the outstanding match of Manchester city. The bookmarkers did a good check here but notwithstanding they may not be very accurate with the prediction even though the chances are clear. On the Manchester city and Bayern Munich pair as you called it, I don't think they overrated Manchester city by making Bayern Munich the underdog in the game through their prediction I think Manchester city is in a better shape to win the game and playing at home is an added advantage for them don't be so surprised if they end up trashing Bayern Munich today.

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April 11, 2023, 04:04:41 PM
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Regarding the struggle for the top four positions and this position is a guarantee for the teams entering the UCL next season, as well as Arsenal and Manchester City are certain to qualify and also have the opportunity to win the EPL this season.
and two other positions are still contested by Newcastle, Manchester United and Tottenham. However, it can be said that the three clubs have the biggest chance and to end the season in the top four can compete until last week to ensure the top four and a ticket to the UCL.
and for Liverpool I think it's difficult to be in 4th place this season and even though Liverpool's performance is starting to improve but it's too late, because the end of the season is coming to an end.
Arsenal will face tough teams in the remaining matches of the season, and I hope Arsenal have a good result in the remaining matches, even if they are tough, but they have to do their best to maintain their position.

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April 11, 2023, 04:07:51 PM
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I think Arsenal's title hope will lies on their upcoming four big matches against Manchester City, Chelsea, Newcastle and Brighton which will start from ending of this month April, if they lose more points from this matches mentioned above, means that Manchester city will over take them in winning the premier League title. But for now they still have chances of winning it as they remain 6 point clear of the runners up Manchester city. They all need to take all their matches more seriously than ever.
The tittle is still between Arsenal and Manchester city, how sure are you that if Arsenal losses points in any of those matches you listed, Manchester City won't also lose points in any of their matches, or is it because Manchester city is not really having any strong team to face accept Arsenal, you think they can't lose or draw to any small club? I know Manchester city will definitely put all their efforts and am sure the only match that they will find difficult should be against Arsenal, other matches should be really difficult for them, but matches are really difficult to predict currently.

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April 11, 2023, 04:38:55 PM
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I think Arsenal's title hope will lies on their upcoming four big matches against Manchester City, Chelsea, Newcastle and Brighton which will start from ending of this month April, if they lose more points from this matches mentioned above, means that Manchester city will over take them in winning the premier League title. But for now they still have chances of winning it as they remain 6 point clear of the runners up Manchester city. They all need to take all their matches more seriously than ever.
The tittle is still between Arsenal and Manchester city, how sure are you that if Arsenal losses points in any of those matches you listed, Manchester City won't also lose points in any of their matches, or is it because Manchester city is not really having any strong team to face accept Arsenal, you think they can't lose or draw to any small club? I know Manchester city will definitely put all their efforts and am sure the only match that they will find difficult should be against Arsenal, other matches should be really difficult for them, but matches are really difficult to predict currently.
actually Arsenal and Manchester city still have the same percentage of winning the Premier League this season but many doubt Arsenal because these two teams will return to competition and it is very likely that Manchester city can beat Arsenal again, that's what a lot of people talk about but I think that one match will not be decisive because there are still 8 matches remaining this season and Arsenal and also Manchester city must be consistent in every remaining match, whoever the team can be consistent with Manchester city will win the Premier League.
I believe the opportunity is still there for Arsenal and they have the same possibility with Manchester city.

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April 11, 2023, 05:01:12 PM
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Top 4 that will no longer work, but Newcastle United is a team that does not have a lot of experience yet. It is possible that they will drop some points, but 12 points is just too much. 6 points might have been manageable. Finishing 4th doesn't suit Liverpool's form at all either, as Liverpool are having a dramatic season so what better reflection than not finishing in the top 4? Liverpool is unthinkable from the CL, but this season it was quite hopeless against Real Madrid in the eighth final. It looks like we won't see any surprises in the European games from qualifying, or maybe a team could still qualify through the FA cup.

If you think that Newcastle can get out of the top four because they don't have experience, but why is it that until now Newcastle is still in the top four. In fact, in the previous few matches, Newcastle had experienced a decline so that they were in fifth place, but in the end, Newcastle returned to good results.

So, I think at this moment it's not about experience or not for Newcastle to be able to stay in the top four until the end of the season, because of course we all have realized that Newcastle already has better facilities. Therefore, of course, it is a strong impetus for Newcastle to become a big team that can compete in the top four until the end of the season.

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