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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 89 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.1%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.3%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.3%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 192

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May 11, 2023, 06:31:48 PM
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Quote from: maju69 link=topbonus to ic=5271157.msg62229584#msg62229584 date=1683828921
We know Liverpool have been doing great in the last few weeks. How long do you think Liverpool's streak will last? I think they have the potential to win all the remaining games in the league. But still, it would be quite difficult to finish the Premier League as the 3rd team, I'm not sure if their opponents will lose points. I look forward to the results of the next matches Smiley
I don’t think Liverpool is really after the top 3, what I think they are after is just ending the season in top 4, which I believe they can definitely get that, Liverpool performance have been cool recently, Liverpool really want to end the season as top 4 so am sure they won’t want to waste any opportunity they are having currently, the season is about to end and this is their last opportunity. Am having confidence that Liverpool might end up winning all the matches they are having left. They didn’t perform well at the beginning of the season those not mean they won’t perform well at the end.
It will depend on Manchester United, if Manchester United can do their best in their remaining matches, then Liverpool can only finish in 5th place. Manchester United has 4 matches, while Liverpool only has 3 remaining. obviously they hope bad luck will be with Manchester United for the rest of this match, it will make them profitable.
Liverpool is in good condition now. It would have been better for Manchester United if they had won those important matches against Brighton and Westham United. Those matches I saw as their bonus to secure many points and balance their foot in the top 4 regions but they couldn't. I'm wondering if they will be able to win their remaining matches with their current performance especially when they still have Fulham and chelsea to play with.

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May 11, 2023, 06:47:35 PM
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Liverpool has suddenly shown they're back on the right track which leads to the chase of the Champions League Football slot next season
Honestly it's all up to Manchester United players to stand up and face the challenges ahead else they're not going to qualify for the Champions League with the pressure from the Reds ( Liverpool ).

Manchester United has lost back to back games while Liverpool has suddenly shown massive improvements with the last games, my hopes are Manchester United to win all the games left of the Premier League season. They've won Wolverampton in the last fixture and Manchester United has also been impressive at home ( Old Trafford )
Liverpool have been subpar all season, but towards the end of the season they really found their rhythm again. Of course it would be great if Liverpool managed to reach the top 4 before the end of the season, but the problem is that Manchester United still have one game in hand that will allow them to be 4 points ahead of Liverpool.

Manchester United need 3/4 wins for their remaining matches to qualify for next season's Champions League. Best case scenario is Manchester United lose to Chelsea while they win all their other matches including against Wolves, Bournemouth and Fulham.
I'm not sure if manchester united will qualify for the champions league in the coming season whereas the poor performance of some players may have to be replaced or require a transfer of players to change the pattern of performance of manchester united players to increase the recent ugliness.
Meanwhile, Liverpool are currently in very good condition when they were able to dominate the match for five matches without defeat.

Basically, Manchester United still has a big chance to finish in the top four, because Manchester United still has one match more than Liverpool. Also, Manchester United got an opponent who at least can still be overcome or can still be beaten by Manchester United.

Therefore, it looks like Manchester United has no doubts about finishing in the top four. It's just that, because Manchester United's performance seems to be declining and Liverpool's performance is getting better, it makes Manchester United enough to worry about. But when we consider the remaining matches and also the opponents that Manchester United will face, then at least Manchester United can still be said to be safe because Manchester United only needs to maintain their position and not to increase their position.

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May 11, 2023, 07:30:42 PM
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You can see, nowadays Sancho is rarely a main starter. that's why, Ten Hag judged he was not in accordance with what he wanted. As for Weghorst, actually Ten Hag doesn't make him a very reliable center forward in his squad. if many think so, it is wrong. because, his job with United is none other than to open up space for his colleagues. after all, he's just a loan player at a low price. Ten Hag used him as a diversion option, his role with United not being to score goals. so, it would be unsightly to be compared to Haaland. therefore, irrelevant. imagine, a loan player at 2 million dollars, with a player that has a fantastic price tag. so, that's why United are always associated with experienced strikers like Harry Kane, Osimhen, or others.

One more thing, Rashford's performance has decreased due to several problems with his fitness. forced to appear in the match against Sevilla, even though he still has not fully recovered. as I often say in many posts, United's performance will experience a decline after carrying out a series of busy match schedules. which in the end, many of their players were injured. next, next season, Ten Hag will bring in several newcomers who fit the criteria. that way, United will be much better as they are showing at this time. but before all that, Ten Hag must ensure that his team finishes in the top 4 of the standings.
It is really surprising how Sancho has fallen from a 100m euros worth player to a benchwarmer, over the past two years he has been tipped to make a comeback in his career and turn things around at least for the worth of the huge amount he was signed for but too bad that has not been the case at Manchester United. Soon the club will be considering selling him off at the end of the season because he is becoming more of a liability than an asset to the club. Obviously Weghorst will not be staying for further season with Manchester United which means bringing in a new striker is a priority in the summer.
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May 11, 2023, 07:32:00 PM
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Liverpool have somehow managed  to work their way back to winning ways and it’s at a good time in the league to revive their chances of finishing in top four spot at the end of the season. Their current winning form have seen them climb up the table to 5 position right below Manchester United and Newcastle United, a win for them in their next game and a lose for united puts them above united and in forth position.

The optimism of Liverpool players is currently in good condition and is fully supported by the players who look solid. In contrast to Manchester United, which is still inconsistent, it's even worse when the composition of the players is without the main squad, it will be seen how bad they are on the field. Unable to cooperate with each other and always lose focus. Liverpool next match will still be superior, while Manchester United is quite doubtful to win. Their opponents are Wolves and as can this club be unpredictable on the pitch. I know the last few Wolves games have been fruitless but that doesn't mean this time against Manchester United they will just give up.

I do see Liverpool having a good ending of the season and will most likely get consecutive wins but in the future...I don't see any real direction for this club especially after such a season. Maybe Klopp will once again manage to find unique players out of nowhere that will help him even more because for now , I don't see a lot of players joining Liverpool this summer but I do see some leaving Sad.

United looks super shaky and I don't expect them to have only good games.

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May 11, 2023, 07:45:31 PM
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Not only do they have a bitter chance, but it's almost impossible for Arsenal to reclaim the 1st rank. I am aware that nothing is impossible until mathematically proven and I am all for that, but even if this looks like a thin advantage for Manchester City, this means much more than in other situations where a weaker team took the lead. Even in the Bundesliga I would say that it is much closer despite the leader being Bayern Munich. Manchester City is so strong and they won't let this go. There can always be some unlucky circumstances, but how unlucky would they have to be in order to lose two out of four games? They have now been unbeaten 21 games in a row in all competitions. It is the Manchester City we know. When it counts, they are there in the Premier League.
I don't think that it is "impossible", I mean sure it's harder to do it but not impossible and I think it's not going to be something that could give them a bigger chance to handle the title chase neither, just focus on what you can do and not what you can't really control.

For example, if they keep focusing on how they could make it work then it's going to end up with something that talks about City eventually losing or having a draw, if they keep focusing on what City should be doing for them to get a win, then it makes no sense, it would not really be something they can control. Just focus on getting wins for all the other games, win every single game, that is all Arsenal can do, if they do that and still lose? That's fine, but they have to keep winning for that.

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May 11, 2023, 08:12:49 PM
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Quote from: maju69 link=topbonus to ic=5271157.msg62229584#msg62229584 date=1683828921
We know Liverpool have been doing great in the last few weeks. How long do you think Liverpool's streak will last? I think they have the potential to win all the remaining games in the league. But still, it would be quite difficult to finish the Premier League as the 3rd team, I'm not sure if their opponents will lose points. I look forward to the results of the next matches Smiley
I don’t think Liverpool is really after the top 3, what I think they are after is just ending the season in top 4, which I believe they can definitely get that, Liverpool performance have been cool recently, Liverpool really want to end the season as top 4 so am sure they won’t want to waste any opportunity they are having currently, the season is about to end and this is their last opportunity. Am having confidence that Liverpool might end up winning all the matches they are having left. They didn’t perform well at the beginning of the season those not mean they won’t perform well at the end.
It will depend on Manchester United, if Manchester United can do their best in their remaining matches, then Liverpool can only finish in 5th place. Manchester United has 4 matches, while Liverpool only has 3 remaining. obviously they hope bad luck will be with Manchester United for the rest of this match, it will make them profitable.
Liverpool is in good condition now. It would have been better for Manchester United if they had won those important matches against Brighton and Westham United. Those matches I saw as their bonus to secure many points and balance their foot in the top 4 regions but they couldn't. I'm wondering if they will be able to win their remaining matches with their current performance especially when they still have Fulham and chelsea to play with.
Wolves, Bournemouth, Chelsea and Fullham are the 4 teams that will be Manchester United's opponents. these 4 teams have performance that is difficult to predict. Especially Chelsea, who have been inconsistent from the start. But they have quality players so they can get the right strategy that returns them to their best performance like when they beat Bournemouth yesterday. So that with Manchester United's condition, which actually experienced a decline in the last match, it will definitely make every remaining match difficult for Manchester United itself. And this is why Liverpool should be able to take advantage of this and win the remaining 3 matches properly. While expecting Manchester United to slip to defeat by one of the teams from these 4 matches. But honestly I feel Man Utd will stay in the top 4 and get a ticket to the Champions League.

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May 11, 2023, 08:23:33 PM
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Not only do they have a bitter chance, but it's almost impossible for Arsenal to reclaim the 1st rank. I am aware that nothing is impossible until mathematically proven and I am all for that, but even if this looks like a thin advantage for Manchester City, this means much more than in other situations where a weaker team took the lead. Even in the Bundesliga I would say that it is much closer despite the leader being Bayern Munich. Manchester City is so strong and they won't let this go. There can always be some unlucky circumstances, but how unlucky would they have to be in order to lose two out of four games? They have now been unbeaten 21 games in a row in all competitions. It is the Manchester City we know. When it counts, they are there in the Premier League.
I don't think that it is "impossible", I mean sure it's harder to do it but not impossible and I think it's not going to be something that could give them a bigger chance to handle the title chase neither, just focus on what you can do and not what you can't really control.

For example, if they keep focusing on how they could make it work then it's going to end up with something that talks about City eventually losing or having a draw, if they keep focusing on what City should be doing for them to get a win, then it makes no sense, it would not really be something they can control. Just focus on getting wins for all the other games, win every single game, that is all Arsenal can do, if they do that and still lose? That's fine, but they have to keep winning for that.

There is nothing I would disagree with what you said. But I also didn't say it is impossible. Sure the only task you have to do in that situation is to focus on yourself and nothing else. But nobody in his right mind would put a single penny on Arsenal winning the title, that is what I mean. Now don't take me word for word because there are probably some people who take a bet for fun, but in realistic terms this is over.

I did enjoy watching several games from Arsenal and it is a pity that they had this break in their consistently strong performance streak. For quite a while I was convinced that Arsenal could do it even if Manchester City keeps winning, but then they didn't only lose one game or tie one game, but several. That was a huge problem.

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May 11, 2023, 08:28:20 PM
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It is great to see Liverpool back in the game again. This is a really important climb in the league now because Klopp's seat might have been under a bigger threat in the other case. Maybe Liverpool have done great things with Klopp for years and his credit can't be that much low to give up on him in only one season. But we never know people these days.

For example Tuchel also did a great job with Chelsea by winning the Champions League title after a short time period of management there. This isn't an example we see very often in the end. But the new owner of the team didn't have some of his conditions satisfied by Tuchel and this caused him to get sacked. Tuchel isn't a name that you should waste very easily normally.

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May 11, 2023, 09:35:53 PM
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Wolves, Bournemouth, Chelsea and Fullham are the 4 teams that will be Manchester United's opponents. these 4 teams have performance that is difficult to predict. Especially Chelsea, who have been inconsistent from the start. But they have quality players so they can get the right strategy that returns them to their best performance like when they beat Bournemouth yesterday. So that with Manchester United's condition, which actually experienced a decline in the last match, it will definitely make every remaining match difficult for Manchester United itself. And this is why Liverpool should be able to take advantage of this and win the remaining 3 matches properly. While expecting Manchester United to slip to defeat by one of the teams from these 4 matches. But honestly I feel Man Utd will stay in the top 4 and get a ticket to the Champions League.
Manchester United problem for now I think is not centered on the opponent they will face but on their performance.
Currently their problem is when they always lose in the momentum to score goals because their finishing is not going well.
No matter how bad the opponent's condition is when they can't create a goal, it will feel free because they always waste opportunities in the end.

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May 11, 2023, 09:39:50 PM
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It is great to see Liverpool back in the game again. This is a really important climb in the league now because Klopp's seat might have been under a bigger threat in the other case. Maybe Liverpool have done great things with Klopp for years and his credit can't be that much low to give up on him in only one season. But we never know people these days.

For example Tuchel also did a great job with Chelsea by winning the Champions League title after a short time period of management there. This isn't an example we see very often in the end. But the new owner of the team didn't have some of his conditions satisfied by Tuchel and this caused him to get sacked. Tuchel isn't a name that you should waste very easily normally.
At least Liverpool have now indeed managed to break their poor performance and now Liverpool have even continued to win matches in successive weeks. So that Jurgen Klopp should remain safe as Liverpool coach.

What happened to Tuchel was indeed due to an internal problem that was occurring within the club at that time. Which makes the team's performance even decrease. So that Chelsea, who initially played very well, turned inconsistent and continued to experience defeats. and the difference in vision that Tuchel has with the new owner of Chelsea is what has made Tuchel sacked.

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May 11, 2023, 09:57:47 PM
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At least Liverpool have now indeed managed to break their poor performance and now Liverpool have even continued to win matches in successive weeks. So that Jurgen Klopp should remain safe as Liverpool coach.

You think Liverpool have a better version of him out there in the market right now they can replace with him, I don't think Liverpool will evacuate him from the club even if they don't make it this season, go and check the record, Jurgen Klopp is the only Liverpool manager they ever had that won them Champions League, Premier League and UEFA super cup and you think for one single season, that justify his next dreams for Liverpool.

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What happened to Tuchel was indeed due to an internal problem that was occurring within the club at that time. Which makes the team's performance even decrease. So that Chelsea, who initially played very well, turned inconsistent and continued to experience defeats. and the difference in vision that Tuchel has with the new owner of Chelsea is what has made Tuchel sacked.

Chelsea issue and Tuchel till today, I don't think there is any official statement about why they had him sack, the media believe it was internal issue because it was not public discussion and then they media decide to spice it up to feed the followers who want to know the full gist, Tuchel has had such kind of losses and he was never sack, that wasn't a valid reason but everyone would agree that Potter deserves his sack letter.

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May 11, 2023, 10:01:17 PM
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Wolves, Bournemouth, Chelsea and Fullham are the 4 teams that will be Manchester United's opponents. these 4 teams have performance that is difficult to predict. Especially Chelsea, who have been inconsistent from the start. But they have quality players so they can get the right strategy that returns them to their best performance like when they beat Bournemouth yesterday.
I know Manchester United have been misbehaving recently but am sure they are just better than Chelsea, and am sure Chelsea shouldn’t be a problem to Manchester United. With the amount of money Chelsea spent on players, they are getting worst, no improvement. Lots of people think because Chelsea won their last match, then they are going back to form, am sure the last match they won was just a luck and don’t be surprised Chelsea might end up losing their next match.I believe Manchester United might find other matches that you mentioned above more difficult compare to Chelsea.

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May 11, 2023, 10:01:21 PM
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What happened to Tuchel was indeed due to an internal problem that was occurring within the club at that time. Which makes the team's performance even decrease. So that Chelsea, who initially played very well, turned inconsistent and continued to experience defeats. and the difference in vision that Tuchel has with the new owner of Chelsea is what has made Tuchel sacked.

The internal feud between Tuchel and the new coach's owner has certainly harmed Chelsea, as evidenced by their current league position. When Tuchel was still the manager of Chelsea, the team was doing well, and the season had only recently begun. Chelsea's owner's little mistake in firing Tuchel has caused him even more grief as he continues to hunt for a savior to save Chelsea from relegation.

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May 11, 2023, 10:02:02 PM
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At least Liverpool have now indeed managed to break their poor performance and now Liverpool have even continued to win matches in successive weeks. So that Jurgen Klopp should remain safe as Liverpool coach.

What happened to Tuchel was indeed due to an internal problem that was occurring within the club at that time. Which makes the team's performance even decrease. So that Chelsea, who initially played very well, turned inconsistent and continued to experience defeats. and the difference in vision that Tuchel has with the new owner of Chelsea is what has made Tuchel sacked.
I want to see how consistent the Manchester United squad is in maintaining their ranking this week, because Liverpool are slowly showing good progress in the standings table.  Manchester United must be aware of what Liverpool has done because if Manchester United are unable to secure full points in the match against Wolves then Liverpool will be able to shift their ranking if Liverpool get 3 points next week.

So, looking at the team at the top of the standings, Manchester City will face Everton at the Gooddison Park stadium. I think this is a match that is quite difficult to predict the final result even though Manchester City are superior in this match but Everton have shown their best strength in the previous match which makes them look more ready to provide a good in this match.

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May 11, 2023, 10:03:42 PM
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It is great to see Liverpool back in the game again. This is a really important climb in the league now because Klopp's seat might have been under a bigger threat in the other case. Maybe Liverpool have done great things with Klopp for years and his credit can't be that much low to give up on him in only one season. But we never know people these days.

For example Tuchel also did a great job with Chelsea by winning the Champions League title after a short time period of management there. This isn't an example we see very often in the end. But the new owner of the team didn't have some of his conditions satisfied by Tuchel and this caused him to get sacked. Tuchel isn't a name that you should waste very easily normally.
What happened to Tuchel was indeed due to an internal problem that was occurring within the club at that time. Which makes the team's performance even decrease. So that Chelsea, who initially played very well, turned inconsistent and continued to experience defeats. and the difference in vision that Tuchel has with the new owner of Chelsea is what has made Tuchel sacked.
Maybe I honestly need some schooling, cus I still can not figure out how it is that internal problems will affect a team's performance on the field and outrightly twart the team's ability to score goals and win matches..

Is that the internal problem have made the players stopped loving each other, and lacked the cooperation needed to score and win matches, or the players just on purpose, do not score to win matches, as a way of protesting their displeasure on the issues the club is going through?

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May 11, 2023, 10:05:44 PM
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Manchester United must wipe out all remaining matches to be safe from Liverpool's pursuit. Those four matches were certainly not easy for the Red Devils to earn perfect points. If you look at United's current performance, I doubt it very much, unless Ten Hag has already evaluated his team.

The condition of Manchester United is currently experiencing a center back crisis and also an increasingly blunt front line, of course such a situation cannot happen to a team that is struggling to secure the Champions League zone. If you want to stay in the top four, then Ten Hag must make every effort so that his troops can perform optimally in the remaining matches.
Manchester's remaining matches are not easy matches that we can comfortably say they will win all three games, the next game is against Wolves, on a normal day Manchester United will win comfortably but with this current form I doubt if Manchester United can win easily. The last games are crucial for their champions league qualification so they have to win, losing is not an option because Liverpool are firing themselves back to the top four position.
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May 11, 2023, 10:08:24 PM
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I know this sounds weird to say but Arsenal may lose yet again. I know they are playing Brighton and they are 7th in the league so it looks like they may win, but Brighton has been great this season so far and they are famously good at their home games as well, when you combine those two together with the situation we have in our hands right now, that looks like something that may end up being a bit worse, I think that's going to be a bit harder to handle, rest of them do not really look like any different. Arsenal could definitely end up with a win, there is no doubt about that and I am sure that they are going to do their very best on that and that's great, but that doesn't mean that I trust them. I am going to just pass this game and not bet on it.

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May 11, 2023, 10:53:39 PM
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Everybody is talking about Arsenal losing a game or two but what about City who have so much in their plate, Champions league game, FA cup finals and the EPL title to secure, is really going to be hard for the Citizens if they fail to win the UCL cause that's their number 1 priority.
Going on season to season without getting hold of that trophy is something Pep is worried about and with the way things are going they [Manchester City] are going to win the UCL and fatigue might come to play in the City team and who knows, that would make Arsenal go back up to the table if City start losing games. The major game I feel City might lose is against Chelsea so Arsenal fans have nothing to worry about.

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May 11, 2023, 11:02:54 PM
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I know this sounds weird to say but Arsenal may lose yet again. I know they are playing Brighton and they are 7th in the league so it looks like they may win, but Brighton has been great this season so far and they are famously good at their home games as well, when you combine those two together with the situation we have in our hands right now, that looks like something that may end up being a bit worse, I think that's going to be a bit harder to handle, rest of them do not really look like any different. Arsenal could definitely end up with a win, there is no doubt about that and I am sure that they are going to do their very best on that and that's great, but that doesn't mean that I trust them. I am going to just pass this game and not bet on it.
This season Brighton have show a different approach to the league so well that even when Graham Potter left after a number of fantastic games won with Brighton I thought that was the end but they signed a new coach and continued in their fine form. They have been outstanding, but against Arsenal is hungry for wins to keep their title hopes on, it wouldn't be an easy game for Brighton at all.
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May 11, 2023, 11:09:24 PM
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The internal feud between Tuchel and the new coach's owner has certainly harmed Chelsea, as evidenced by their current league position. When Tuchel was still the manager of Chelsea, the team was doing well, and the season had only recently begun. Chelsea's owner's little mistake in firing Tuchel has caused him even more grief as he continues to hunt for a savior to save Chelsea from relegation.
I don't even think chelsea had a problem with the new coach of chelsea. Tuchel has gone before potter was coming. The problem was in the chelsea's new owner. If you are aware of how chelsea was doing transition from the good team to the bad team after the chelsea owner has been making so many interventions to the club. it has been starting with buying the player that has not yet needed by the club. As far as i know that if it's not potter who has been initiating so many transfers in the previous season. Todd boehly played a very important role in this case.
I meant he was always doing interfere in any decision that being taken by the club while he doesn't know about football. Eghbali is not also preventing him from to did it.

The problem was in the owner of chelsea. He has spent so much money for nothing caused by he was always rushing take any decisions without even consider it for twice again. Todd is so garbage as a new owner. He can't at least use his small brain to think what's good for his club.
That's it. Tuchel being sacked by todd and it's not potter who played in this case.


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