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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 89 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.1%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.3%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.3%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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November 30, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
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In terms of the Epl title race I think Liverpool might be the favourite for the trophy, they usually try to beat all odds to get a win or a draw which shows their determination is beyond every other team. Last season was a difficult one for Liverpool but I think they are back while Arsenal and man City shouldn't be seen as the only title favourite. In comparison of the three, for me Arsenal has always been inconsistent every so they will probably do the same this season and drop more points especially during ending of the season while at that point Man City and Liverpool are more likely to be the title contenders

Of a truth with the force that Liverpool is coming with they may surprise people this season because already they have a nice squad but there problem sometimes is also inconsistency, like this club and Atletico Madrid in Spain almost align with their play pattern because these both clubs normally plays good football in their various division but finds it difficult to win the trophy. Liverpool performance this season is awesome as it can be clearly noticed in their match with Manchester city because for them to earn a draw in that match means that they've actually built a solid team so I tip them to be a major title contenders this season as they are doing well both in the EPL and the Europa league.

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November 30, 2023, 07:31:05 PM
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You are right, Arsenal has 1 point less after 13 games and 1 goal better difference than last season after 13 games. Does that really mean anything? In my opinion it doesn't. They also have the strongest defense so far, which they did not last season although it was still great.

I also don't think it means anything especially considering 25 more rounds to play before the end of the season. A lot can change in those 25 rounds and it is right now important for the team plan things properly in order to maintain their consistency. Race has just completed 1/3rd of the distance and there is more to go but with proper planning everything can be achieved.


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I think we are going to see a close race between Arsenal, City and Liverpool. I don't think Aston Villa can go at this level for a long time.

That's the main challenge for them. Aston Villa are an average team and so far they have been spectacular or say out of ordinary. So the main questions arises for how long they can stay consistent. They had a good start but can they continue it for long time. Depth and quality of squad determines how far they will go and till now they have shown their quality. If things go like this Aston Villa are gonna make a surprise finish at the table by the end.
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November 30, 2023, 07:34:05 PM
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Liverpool are really doing well at the moment to battle for the title race among Manchester City and Arsenal, but that doesn’t mean that the other two teams can’t win the title too. Arsenal did messed up last season for given the trophy to Manchester City because of their carelessness towards the final matches of the league. What happened last season is a already a lesson for them, so I don’t think they will do the same this season. At the moment, they still remain one of the favourites among the three teams that are potential league winners. With time as the league approaches the end of the season, it will become more clearer to know the team that can win the title race.
Liverpool no doubts have a good chance at this point to win the league title by the end of the season but then their performance in recent time's if they maintain such pase, in the nearest future they may most likely not be in a good position to win the title this season.

But then I think Manchester city and Arsenal in their present form are in better position as they are currently in their best form and are racing for the top of the table, but amongst them all, Manchester city is more consistent than Liverpool and arsenal and if Manchester city continues with their consistency and their recent form and performance, they are very likely to retain the league title again by the end of this season.

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November 30, 2023, 07:36:41 PM
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Liverpool are really doing well at the moment to battle for the title race among Manchester City and Arsenal, but that doesn’t mean that the other two teams can’t win the title too. Arsenal did messed up last season for given the trophy to Manchester City because of their carelessness towards the final matches of the league. What happened last season is a already a lesson for them, so I don’t think they will do the same this season. At the moment, they still remain one of the favourites among the three teams that are potential league winners. With time as the league approaches the end of the season, it will become more clearer to know the team that can win the title race.
Arteta made a mistake because he failed to calculate the optimal form of the team for the rest of the season. This season I didn't think Arsenal would be a contender for the title, but they are now top of the table and that means Arteta still hopes to fight for the title.

For me this season in the Premier League is looking very cool with Arsenal, City and Liverpool fighting for the championship and Aston Villa is ready to give this group worthy competition, for which Emery has special respect. For me, City is still the favorite, but I understand that any team from the top 4 can become champions.

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November 30, 2023, 07:44:07 PM
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In terms of the Epl title race I think Liverpool might be the favourite for the trophy, they usually try to beat all odds to get a win or a draw which shows their determination is beyond every other team. Last season was a difficult one for Liverpool but I think they are back while Arsenal and man City shouldn't be seen as the only title favourite. In comparison of the three, for me Arsenal has always been inconsistent every so they will probably do the same this season and drop more points especially during ending of the season while at that point Man City and Liverpool are more likely to be the title contenders
EPL clubs are having one of the best moments this season, winning is very important and there's no concerning deal for the Reds to give if they don't qualify for the UEFA Champions League spot this season. Consistency now becomes the regular routine for the Reds, they're not holding back and keep pressing forward to achieve good targets this season. Liverpool have amend their errors and are back on track, winning becomes an option for them. Jurgen Klopp has envisioned the possibility of the club winning major titles this season.
I wonder, is it possible that this season will be Liverpool's? The reason is that they are a team that is ready to enliven the EPL title race and they can prove this by occupying 3rd place in the current standings. Of course, this is quite different if we compare it with last season, which experienced endless difficulties which ultimately resulted in them only getting a place in the European league.

On the other hand, with the depth of their current squad, they will certainly be able to produce a positive trend in each match. Jurgen Kloop deserves to be trusted as Liverpool coach for many seasons and his intuition is still not dull enough to be able to bring Liverpool to fiercer competition.

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November 30, 2023, 07:46:29 PM
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I am literally not a football lover but I can say that a "Just Fan_ of Chelsea football which I am not detailed about. I just wish them winning at all matches 🤣.
I even barely bets on football sports gamblings but if I do, it is always that mental feelings of "No hope" and "Try your luck" because I am best believed that betting on football without its skillful knowledges is just one of the chance-based gambling scheme.

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November 30, 2023, 07:50:35 PM
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In terms of the Epl title race I think Liverpool might be the favourite for the trophy, they usually try to beat all odds to get a win or a draw which shows their determination is beyond every other team. Last season was a difficult one for Liverpool but I think they are back while Arsenal and man City shouldn't be seen as the only title favourite. In comparison of the three, for me Arsenal has always been inconsistent every so they will probably do the same this season and drop more points especially during ending of the season while at that point Man City and Liverpool are more likely to be the title contenders

Liverpool are really doing well at the moment to battle for the title race among Manchester City and Arsenal, but that doesn’t mean that the other two teams can’t win the title too. Arsenal did messed up last season for given the trophy to Manchester City because of their carelessness towards the final matches of the league. What happened last season is a already a lesson for them, so I don’t think they will do the same this season. At the moment, they still remain one of the favourites among the three teams that are potential league winners. With time as the league approaches the end of the season, it will become more clearer to know the team that can win the title race.
I can't say for sure if arsenal won't commit same mistakes because this season heat for the title is really tense and I doubt of the two teams that Liverpool or Manchester city can flow at the heat of the race and if any of these teams to even flop it will be arsenal not because they did so but I think they are not as mentally stable as the other two teams in the competition.

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November 30, 2023, 08:02:52 PM
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In terms of the Epl title race I think Liverpool might be the favourite for the trophy, they usually try to beat all odds to get a win or a draw which shows their determination is beyond every other team. Last season was a difficult one for Liverpool but I think they are back while Arsenal and man City shouldn't be seen as the only title favourite. In comparison of the three, for me Arsenal has always been inconsistent every so they will probably do the same this season and drop more points especially during ending of the season while at that point Man City and Liverpool are more likely to be the title contenders

So you believe that Liverpool will be a Premier League favourite this season? The only thing you will say here, and I may believe you, is that Liverpool are doing well, and they can be a challenge for both Manchester City and Arsenal, and both teams are also doing excellent. You cannot compare Liverpool's performance with Arsenal's. Manchester City's performance is incomparable too; however, Liverpool doesn’t have the ability to beat these two teams, in my opinion, and you can see Arsenal is doing well.

However, Manchester City and Arsenal are the ones topping the standings at the moment, so I think they won’t allow any other squad to come and take over the position. Arsenal will do everything they can to see them succeed. They realise their mistake from last season, when they started messing up when the season was about to end. I believe they won’t do that this season.

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November 30, 2023, 08:23:44 PM
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Arteta made a mistake because he failed to calculate the optimal form of the team for the rest of the season. This season I didn't think Arsenal would be a contender for the title, but they are now top of the table and that means Arteta still hopes to fight for the title.

For me this season in the Premier League is looking very cool with Arsenal, City and Liverpool fighting for the championship and Aston Villa is ready to give this group worthy competition, for which Emery has special respect. For me, City is still the favorite, but I understand that any team from the top 4 can become champions.

They weren't at the beginning considering the performance from last season? Are you joking? They have such strong squad and reliable players and I don't think they are not a title contender. They have shown how consistent they are since last season and are still going strong so I think you are wrong here. For me, they have been since the beginning. I had bit of doubt in the middle with some loss of points in between but still they have been really going strong so far.

City are always favourite as they are king of being consistent in PL. They can easily cover the gap (if there is) by going on consistent and win matches for long run. They have a very good strong depth and a top manager which is why they always have been the favourites no matter what.
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November 30, 2023, 08:27:02 PM
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Liverpool are really doing well at the moment to battle for the title race among Manchester City and Arsenal, but that doesn’t mean that the other two teams can’t win the title too. Arsenal did messed up last season for given the trophy to Manchester City because of their carelessness towards the final matches of the league. What happened last season is a already a lesson for them, so I don’t think they will do the same this season. At the moment, they still remain one of the favourites among the three teams that are potential league winners. With time as the league approaches the end of the season, it will become more clearer to know the team that can win the title race.
Liverpool no doubts have a good chance at this point to win the league title by the end of the season but then their performance in recent time's if they maintain such pase, in the nearest future they may most likely not be in a good position to win the title this season.

But then I think Manchester city and Arsenal in their present form are in better position as they are currently in their best form and are racing for the top of the table, but amongst them all, Manchester city is more consistent than Liverpool and arsenal and if Manchester city continues with their consistency and their recent form and performance, they are very likely to retain the league title again by the end of this season.
But for now, I think we have to admit that Arsenal have collected more points and are now top of the EPL standings. The Gunners are one point ahead of Man City in second place, and City is one point ahead of Liverpool in third place, and Liverpool is ahead on goal difference from Aston Villa in fourth place. The competition for the top four is so tight that in my opinion all four clubs have shown a high level of consistency so far, and in my opinion none of the teams in the top four of the standings can be called underperforming.

Recently, after City drew with Liverpool, many questions have arisen as to whether Pep Guardiola squad can defend the EPL title this season. I understand that it's too early to predict the end of the season, but there no harm in speculating. Personally, I see that Arsenal and Liverpool have the potential to win the EPL title this season, and can break City dominance.

Arsenal need to cure the acute illness they are suffering from towards the end of the season, namely avoiding the large number of injured players, Arteta must properly organize the details of his strategy, and that is the only way to remain consistent until the end of the season. For Liverpool, this is the most promising season as long as Salah is still at the peak of his performance, and it is reported that this will be his last season in the red uniform. However, despite all that, we have to be patient and wait for the standings to form with a difference in points, hoping that there will be surprises in the EPL this season.

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Liverpool are really doing well at the moment to battle for the title race among Manchester City and Arsenal, but that doesn’t mean that the other two teams can’t win the title too. Arsenal did messed up last season for given the trophy to Manchester City because of their carelessness towards the final matches of the league. What happened last season is a already a lesson for them, so I don’t think they will do the same this season. At the moment, they still remain one of the favourites among the three teams that are potential league winners. With time as the league approaches the end of the season, it will become more clearer to know the team that can win the title race.
Liverpool no doubts have a good chance at this point to win the league title by the end of the season but then their performance in recent time's if they maintain such pase, in the nearest future they may most likely not be in a good position to win the title this season.

But then I think Manchester city and Arsenal in their present form are in better position as they are currently in their best form and are racing for the top of the table, but amongst them all, Manchester city is more consistent than Liverpool and arsenal and if Manchester city continues with their consistency and their recent form and performance, they are very likely to retain the league title again by the end of this season.

I don't think Manchester City will win the trophy this season because he has shown on their performance because they are weak this season they are not strong like last season, I just think Arsenal or Liverpool can win the premier league trophy season especially Arsenal because I believe in them they can try their best and win the league title they won't make mistakes like last season that caused Manchester City to win the league and Liverpool are better than last season and playing well, I enjoyed their match against Manchester City they played really well, and if they continue like this they can win the league title.

Tottenham are playing Manchester City this weekend, and the match will be very competitive because Tottenham have lost three straight league matches,They will try to win the match but I am sure it will not be easy for Tottenham because Manchester City are better than them However, football is unpredictable and they can win the match because no one believes Chelsea will draw against Manchester City, Because Chelsea is not as perfect as Manchester City but there is drive and effort from the coach and fans that help them share points against them, and if Tottenham can put effort into the game they can obtain fantastic results.

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In terms of the Epl title race I think Liverpool might be the favourite for the trophy, they usually try to beat all odds to get a win or a draw which shows their determination is beyond every other team. Last season was a difficult one for Liverpool but I think they are back while Arsenal and man City shouldn't be seen as the only title favourite. In comparison of the three, for me Arsenal has always been inconsistent every so they will probably do the same this season and drop more points especially during ending of the season while at that point Man City and Liverpool are more likely to be the title contenders
You are absolutely right this season EPL title contenders is going to be three horse race between Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool who would slug it out this season and Man City whose bid to break the record of winning the league in a fourth times in a row would face a stiff challenge from those two other clubs though I think it's too early to start predicting the eventual winner because of plenty of matches ahead and for the tittle contender that would clinch the title the team must be very consistent in winning their matches even with a narrow wins and from my own point of view it's going to be very competitive till the end of the season.

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Manchester United seems to have found a good way to win the match. They have improved even though all the teams they beat were not strong teams, but this can encourage players and teams to play better to win other difficult matches. Including the match against Newcastle, it is a difficult match which could possibly be an obstacle for United in maintaining consistent performance. They can still lose even though this team has been very good in the last few matches.

Newcastle is a team that has developed rapidly in the last two seasons. Eddie Howe really succeeded in turning a team with an ordinary squad into a better quality team. Of course they haven't proven much other than good form, but I'm sure they will improve even more if Howe gets more budget to buy quality players.
Well they might have succeeded in beating a team that got deducted points and are currently in the relegation zone but after a very disappointing performance in the UCL against Galatasaray the united team is going to face lots of pressure playing against a very inform Newcastle team that defeated Chelsea in the EPL in their last match and drew against PSG in the UCL match, the Eddie Howe's boys are very active, a very inform team that would pressure any team they face recently and Manchester united are not going to find it easy playing against them.

 Eric Ten Hag needs to start getting his decision right, he needs to know the exact players to feature in a match and make the necessary changes at the right time to keep the match in their favour, else if he gets it all wrong again against Newcastle he's going end up being embarrassed with a good scoreline by Newcastle especially now one of their key player Isak is back from injury.
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November 30, 2023, 08:44:31 PM
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Liverpool are really doing well at the moment to battle for the title race among Manchester City and Arsenal, but that doesn’t mean that the other two teams can’t win the title too. Arsenal did messed up last season for given the trophy to Manchester City because of their carelessness towards the final matches of the league. What happened last season is a already a lesson for them, so I don’t think they will do the same this season. At the moment, they still remain one of the favourites among the three teams that are potential league winners. With time as the league approaches the end of the season, it will become more clearer to know the team that can win the title race.
Liverpool no doubts have a good chance at this point to win the league title by the end of the season but then their performance in recent time's if they maintain such pase, in the nearest future they may most likely not be in a good position to win the title this season.

But then I think Manchester city and Arsenal in their present form are in better position as they are currently in their best form and are racing for the top of the table, but amongst them all, Manchester city is more consistent than Liverpool and arsenal and if Manchester city continues with their consistency and their recent form and performance, they are very likely to retain the league title again by the end of this season.

This year Premier League title most likely to be won amongst the three which are viz;

Manchester City, Liverpool and Arsenal.

With Manchester City, everyone knows the qualities, standards and demands Pep Guardiola brings into the squad and what he demands from them on the pitch. They're always three to four step ahead.

Liverpool I don't trust a hundred percent, during the transfer window, they should make sure the sign up a new defender. I no longer trust Virgil he'll have to work hard. Liverpool management have to invest that way. Matip is not a good player no more, he needs to be sold for another to come.

Arsenal have got to be my favorites to win the Premier League, they failed woefully last season so they must have learnt from that failure.
Mikel Arteta had also brought in players that suits his style of play.

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November 30, 2023, 08:48:40 PM
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In terms of the Epl title race I think Liverpool might be the favourite for the trophy, they usually try to beat all odds to get a win or a draw which shows their determination is beyond every other team. Last season was a difficult one for Liverpool but I think they are back while Arsenal and man City shouldn't be seen as the only title favourite. In comparison of the three, for me Arsenal has always been inconsistent every so they will probably do the same this season and drop more points especially during ending of the season while at that point Man City and Liverpool are more likely to be the title contenders
Just like people do say, we shouldn't conclude yet on who will win the league, but from the way the league is going currently, I don't think Liverpool will be able to win the league. We all know they have been performing well, but winning the league will be kind of difficult for them. I still think the winner of the league might still be between Manchester City and Arsenal, but I don't really have confidence in Arsenal. We all know Arsenal will end up messing things up, so I won't be surprised if Manchester City end up winning the league this season again. But as we can see, the three clubs are really in a tight race with just a little difference in points.

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November 30, 2023, 09:06:35 PM
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I don't think Manchester City will win the trophy this season because he has shown on their performance because they are weak this season they are not strong like last season, I just think Arsenal or Liverpool can win the premier league trophy season especially Arsenal because I believe in them they can try their best and win the league title they won't make mistakes like last season that caused Manchester City to win the league and Liverpool are better than last season and playing well, I enjoyed their match against Manchester City they played really well, and if they continue like this they can win the league title.

Manchester City are not at their best as we saw last season but that is understandable due to the number of matches they play last season and the treble won. Everyone actually expected them to slump a little bit this season and that is what we are witnessing. But still I don’t still see a formidable opponent to challenge them for the title. Arsenal were able to challenge them last season and fell short but with new signings this season they look like a team that could still go all the way to the title but I still doubt their credibility of winning it. As for Liverpool, they are just better than last season but not yet the Liverpool side that won the league years back. As it stands with Manchester City still in the race even without their talisman De Bruyne, I will bet on them to win it again if he returns and back to form. But the jinx that no club has ever won it four times in a row could still play it’s part.

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November 30, 2023, 09:12:21 PM
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In terms of the Epl title race I think Liverpool might be the favourite for the trophy, they usually try to beat all odds to get a win or a draw which shows their determination is beyond every other team. Last season was a difficult one for Liverpool but I think they are back while Arsenal and man City shouldn't be seen as the only title favourite. In comparison of the three, for me Arsenal has always been inconsistent every so they will probably do the same this season and drop more points especially during ending of the season while at that point Man City and Liverpool are more likely to be the title contenders

Liverpool are really doing well at the moment to battle for the title race among Manchester City and Arsenal, but that doesn’t mean that the other two teams can’t win the title too. Arsenal did messed up last season for given the trophy to Manchester City because of their carelessness towards the final matches of the league. What happened last season is a already a lesson for them, so I don’t think they will do the same this season. At the moment, they still remain one of the favourites among the three teams that are potential league winners. With time as the league approaches the end of the season, it will become more clearer to know the team that can win the title race.
I can't say for sure if arsenal won't commit same mistakes because this season heat for the title is really tense and I doubt of the two teams that Liverpool or Manchester city can flow at the heat of the race and if any of these teams to even flop it will be arsenal not because they did so but I think they are not as mentally stable as the other two teams in the competition.

Liverpool are playing pretty good football at the moment and they have been one of the most consistent sides in the EPL this season in terms of results, tipping Liverpool to be favourites to win the league title would be too much of a gamble for me considering the drama and other constraints associated with the title race in English football, things like injuries, rivalries, derby matches, other competitions like the Carabao cup, the FA cup, and even the international break, all these and many more should be put into consideration before projecting Liverpool to win the title, this was exactly what happened to arsenal when they came very close to winning the league title last season before they slipped and gave way to Manchester city. So let's all watch and see how things unfold at the end of the season.

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November 30, 2023, 09:17:48 PM
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I can't say for sure if arsenal won't commit same mistakes because this season heat for the title is really tense and I doubt of the two teams that Liverpool or Manchester city can flow at the heat of the race and if any of these teams to even flop it will be arsenal not because they did so but I think they are not as mentally stable as the other two teams in the competition.
The three teams are now in a position that is quite close to each other and if we look at the level of competition that exists in the top four of the Premier League standings at the moment, the four teams have points that are very close to the leader of the standings, namely Arsenal. So this hot competition will probably continue for the four teams in the UCL zone and three of them will also continue to try to remain consistent until the end of the season although I am also not completely sure about Arsenal's consistency until the end of the season.

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November 30, 2023, 09:21:33 PM
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Manchester City’s squad is not as strong this season as their last season; the new players they added are yet to be fully in the team, and as a result of that, it’s affecting their performance even though they are still doing well this season. One of the main Arsenal problems last season was squad depth, and the second was the inability to beat Manchester City both home and away. But this season, even though it is becoming tough because so many teams are competing for the title, I still see Arsenal as a team to give them a challenge, if not even win the league, because their consistency in the competition matters.
It's true. Man City looks a bit weaker, especially after Kevin De Bruyne got a severe injured and must take a rest for a long time. Guardiola has Julián Álvarez and Bernardo Silva to replace the position of Kevin De Bruyne, but their capability isn't the same as Kevin De Bruyne. Julián Álvarez's main position is a striker, so his nature and basic skills are actually quite different. Meanwhile Bernardo Silva is also attacking midfielder but he has a different style and ability. Personally, I think the role of Kevin De Bruyne is irreplaceable, his presence is very important for the team.

Arteta already bought some players to solve the problem. You can see they have no problems anymore about the squad depth. Kai Havertz, Decline Rice, Jurrien Timber, and David Raya make Arsenal squad to be stronger and have some good alternatives in each line. Although there are players who get injured, Arteta won't feel worried because he has enough players now.

Sure, Arsenal is still the strongest competitor for Man City.

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November 30, 2023, 09:29:49 PM
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Liverpool are really doing well at the moment to battle for the title race among Manchester City and Arsenal, but that doesn’t mean that the other two teams can’t win the title too. Arsenal did messed up last season for given the trophy to Manchester City because of their carelessness towards the final matches of the league. What happened last season is a already a lesson for them, so I don’t think they will do the same this season. At the moment, they still remain one of the favourites among the three teams that are potential league winners. With time as the league approaches the end of the season, it will become more clearer to know the team that can win the title race.
Liverpool no doubts have a good chance at this point to win the league title by the end of the season but then their performance in recent time's if they maintain such pase, in the nearest future they may most likely not be in a good position to win the title this season.

But then I think Manchester city and Arsenal in their present form are in better position as they are currently in their best form and are racing for the top of the table, but amongst them all, Manchester city is more consistent than Liverpool and arsenal and if Manchester city continues with their consistency and their recent form and performance, they are very likely to retain the league title again by the end of this season.

I don't think Manchester City will win the trophy this season because he has shown on their performance because they are weak this season they are not strong like last season, I just think Arsenal or Liverpool can win the premier league trophy season especially Arsenal because I believe in them they can try their best and win the league title they won't make mistakes like last season that caused Manchester City to win the league and Liverpool are better than last season and playing well, I enjoyed their match against Manchester City they played really well, and if they continue like this they can win the league title.

Tottenham are playing Manchester City this weekend, and the match will be very competitive because Tottenham have lost three straight league matches,They will try to win the match but I am sure it will not be easy for Tottenham because Manchester City are better than them However, football is unpredictable and they can win the match because no one believes Chelsea will draw against Manchester City, Because Chelsea is not as perfect as Manchester City but there is drive and effort from the coach and fans that help them share points against them, and if Tottenham can put effort into the game they can obtain fantastic results.

MC coach is probably the best tactician and the fact that Tottenham are motivated to win because of three consecutive defeats means absolutely nothing, Manchester City are still very strong, just look at their stats and best of all their play, they have no reason to lose, moreover no reason to lose the championship this season

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