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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 89 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.1%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.3%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.3%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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May 22, 2024, 01:11:29 PM

It was Chelsea's condition that made Pochettino leave. He felt uncomfortable at Chelsea.  It seems that this achievement is not considered a good achievement. The management is not satisfied with the current conditions, so they are never satisfied with Pochettino's achievements. Actually, changing coaches only makes time increase to wait for better achievements or maybe even they can fail. Pochettino should stay at least 1 more year, if he has good progress, they can increase the duration of the contract. I want to see how later they develop or get worse.
Achieving quick success is not easy in football and changing coaches will definitely have an impact on the team. Pochettino does not have the abilities of some other great coaches, but he succeeded in bringing Chelsea to a much better place in the standings. If management can provide support then Pochettino can definitely give his best for the next few seasons, but in the English league that is difficult because they want the title.

This season there will be a change of new coach and it is not guaranteed that Chelsea will be able to compete for the title. Because there is a lot of work that must be done by the new coach and the competition in the English league will be very different and it takes a lot of things to make the team stronger in the competition.
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May 22, 2024, 01:12:03 PM

Chelsea keeps firing manager after manager every year, firing Tuchel the moment new owner came in (that was obviously some office guys like director or consultant or whatever hating him) and then Potter and Pochettino now, basically we are talking about Chelsea keep firing managers all the time and there is really nothing that can benefit them from this at all.

They need to realize that Arteta didn't do so well on their first ever year, even when City was bought, they didn't win right away, basically these things take time and they need to realize that they are getting a very good team and a young one, so if they keep a manager then they could just simply end up with getting better and better with time, can't keep firing managers.

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May 22, 2024, 01:39:31 PM

It's also boring for me to see the same team winning year after year. It's undeniable how close this Arsenal team came to the title, but they were unlucky because their contenders stayed consistent at the end of the season and made no single mistakes. Arsenal and Man City are both great teams, but only one can win the title. I wish Arsenal the best of luck next season.
And of-course we have to appreciate that Pep has built an incredible team under his reign. Winning four EPL in a row is unbelievable. Even though repeating last season's treble won't happen, but the possibility of a domestic double is almost certain. Pep will easily win the FA Cup because Man United doesn't have a quality coach or keeper.
Yes, even though it's boring, we also can't do anything if each club has shown its best performance in one season. Usually clubs that have won the title for several seasons are always the favorites to win again if the club is still in strong condition and Manchester City is still in strong condition and not experiencing a decline in performance, if this club changes coaches or experiences a decline, it is possible that Manchester City will not win the title in 4 consecutive seasons because the Premier League is a competitive league where every competition is quite difficult and every club definitely has difficulty competing there. However, Arsenal and Manchester City have been able to compete in the title race in the last 2 seasons, meaning they still both have strong performances.
In my opinion other top teams who ought to have challenge Man City for the title were all shadow of former self with exception of Arsenal, I expected teams like Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham to give Man City a run of their money unfortunately they couldn't live up many fans expectations, though I give credit to Guardiola for putting up a formidable squad despite selling some his quality players at the beginning of season yet against all odds clinched the league title for four consecutive time thus breaking a record in EPL, well the season is gone, however I believe other top teams would boost their squad and sign quality players for next season so as to stop Man City winning another title.

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May 22, 2024, 02:16:13 PM

This is not Manchester City's fault, but rather the mistakes and inability of other teams to compete for the title. In the last two seasons, Arsenal was able to provide the best competition for Manchester City in the title race, but Arsenal failed in the second half, especially towards the end of the season. Manchester City, which has quality coaches and players, is clearly capable of dominating, but that is normal when the team is managed well and the players' performance can be expected.


Of course I'm not saying this is Man City's fault, but what I mean is the bad conditions experienced by Chelsea, MU of course has been a bonus for City, Liverpool, Arsenal put pressure on City, but in the end City was able to become champion because of the mistakes made by Liverpool and Arsenal. If Liverpool and Arsenal had not made mistakes in the last 20 matches with several lose, maybe we would have seen Liverpool and Arsenal competing for the championship. This may be considered more interesting by some people, than seeing the competition between Arsenal and City where in the end City became champion.

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May 22, 2024, 02:24:52 PM

Chelsea keeps firing manager after manager every year, firing Tuchel the moment new owner came in (that was obviously some office guys like director or consultant or whatever hating him) and then Potter and Pochettino now, basically we are talking about Chelsea keep firing managers all the time and there is really nothing that can benefit them from this at all.

They need to realize that Arteta didn't do so well on their first ever year, even when City was bought, they didn't win right away, basically these things take time and they need to realize that they are getting a very good team and a young one, so if they keep a manager then they could just simply end up with getting better and better with time, can't keep firing managers.

Yes indeed, and from one of the sources available also that Pochettino was not included in the plan to recruit players and also release players. With these differences, there was tension between them until finally Pochettino chose to leave. But indeed, it also seems like an attempt for Chelsea to sack Pochettino and I think it might not be a good decision either. Because anyway, Pochettino also stillmanaged to make Chelsea recover at the end of theseason despite only being able to finish in the top six butstill, it was also still a good result for Chelsea.

But indeed,  it seems to have become a tradition forChelsea to sack the coach when the coach fails to make Chelsea compete in the top four.  But anyway, if they continue to sack the coach like that. Then ofcourse, it will be difficult for Chelsea to form a solid team throughout the season, because the change of coach like that will certainly require a lot of time to adjust and adapt.

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May 22, 2024, 02:25:41 PM

If you are a true fan, you will never think of leaving the team just because of this decision of changing or sacking Pochettihnho; if you are a real Chelsea fan, you should have been used to different coaches because Chelsea is a team that don’t usually give coaches long time like Arsenal and Manchester United.

The new Chelsea owners are not actually trying, they don’t believe in any long term process of building team, that is why they are sacking their managers after a failed season, and I don’t think doing so will give the team the best performance they need; over changing managers can even lead the team to downfall because any new coach have to start from beginning and sign another players he feel can do better for him which is another expenses for the team and it will trigger some players to easily leave the club.
I think have bad tactician if Chelsea change head coach every season and new head coach need time for adapting with his tactician for next season regarding with Pochettino needed almost one season how to make Chelsea success finish on 6th standings position. Building new team with new tactician need time exactly with the next manager after Pochettino has some players not in their scheme, need new player signing and build up new tactician for adopting well but Chelsea's management has target must be qualify to Champion League for next season or keep in the Premier League tittle race.

Since new era after leaving by Abramovich as Chelsea owner get many internal problem and inconsistency of manager without one year have sacked from his position. I doubt for new Chelsea manager for next season how short become manager behind many previous manager got sack without one season and only Pochettino success completed until one season.
Next who will be new Chelsea's manager candidate and potential will make huge rotation by selling old players under Pochettino era or keep fully trusted 100% with the previous squad dominance by youth players.

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But indeed,  it seems to have become a tradition forChelsea to sack the coach when the coach fails to make Chelsea compete in the top four.  But anyway, if they continue to sack the coach like that. Then ofcourse, it will be difficult for Chelsea to form a solid team throughout the season, because the change of coach like that will certainly require a lot of time to adjust and adapt.
This problem is also faced to Manchester United too, the fans and managements always like to sack the manager when Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League or didn't become a champion in top competition.

Both of the teams need to learn if Rome wasn't built in a day, process is really important. It's only exception if the team is full of star players and can perform like Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, if they didn't win, it's due to the manager.

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May 22, 2024, 03:02:03 PM

But indeed,  it seems to have become a tradition forChelsea to sack the coach when the coach fails to make Chelsea compete in the top four.  But anyway, if they continue to sack the coach like that. Then ofcourse, it will be difficult for Chelsea to form a solid team throughout the season, because the change of coach like that will certainly require a lot of time to adjust and adapt.
This problem is also faced to Manchester United too, the fans and managements always like to sack the manager when Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League or didn't become a champion in top competition.

Both of the teams need to learn if Rome wasn't built in a day, process is really important. It's only exception if the team is full of star players and can perform like Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, if they didn't win, it's due to the manager.
There is actually a difference here, especially for Pochettino's current problems.

Poche reportedly resigned not fired and this is an important point to realize where resigning and being fired even though they both leave the club but the way is different.
Poche resigned and Chelsea could not do much to hold him back because the decision was already a final decision from Poche who wanted to leave even though we don't know the exact reason but indeed the important point is resigning not being fired.

For Manchester United when talking about sacking then indeed it is a fair price because if we reflect on the era of Rangnick and Ole it cannot be proud of. Now for Ten Hag actually this also deserves to be fired because seeing from what is happening now then indeed what needs to be maintained with Manchester United's chaotic situation so it is good enough that he is allowed to leave even though currently there is still no decision about this.

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May 22, 2024, 03:06:03 PM

Yes indeed, and from one of the sources available also that Pochettino was not included in the plan to recruit players and also release players. With these differences, there was tension between them until finally Pochettino chose to leave. But indeed, it also seems like an attempt for Chelsea to sack Pochettino and I think it might not be a good decision either.
They gained good results and rank at the season ending together. They tried to sit down, negotiated with each other for future and a possible contract expansion but finally they decided to separate with each other.

In general, it is really difficult to prove that Pochettino had a bad season with Chelsea so this sack comes from many things behind the scene in Stamford Bridge that did not reveal to the public and their fans so far.

Pochettino actually wanted to do better with Chelsea next season but with disagreement for future development, budget for transfers maybe, a separation is unavoidable. He will be missed in Chelsea by what he did for them this season and Chelsea will regret a lot if in a new season, they won't be able to perform well and won't complete that season at a same or higher rank than this season.

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May 22, 2024, 03:08:42 PM

Pochettino is doing a great job and the way Chelsea finished his PL 2024 on a high note Pochettino deserves another chance to show his class in next season.
I don't know why Chelsea fans didn't like Pochettino why.
Anyway now its done Pochettino and Management decide to sperate their way by mutual understanding.
In my opinion, Chelsea management made the decision to fire Pochettino too quickly and without any consideration at all. Because Pochettino has only been Chelsea coach for one season, Chelsea management should give Pochettino another season's opportunity next season to prove his quality. Because according to my observations, Chelsea is currently heading in a much better direction. The reason is that at the end of this season, Chelsea's performance could be said to be quite good because they were able to wipe out their last 5 matches in the Premier League with a win. Apart from that, Pochettino also succeeded in bringing Chelsea to finish in 6th position and will definitely qualify for the European league next season. This is clear evidence that Pochettino has very good prospects with Chelsea even though it has only been one season. So, if for example next season Chelsea retains Pochettino, I think it is not impossible that Chelsea can compete again for the Premier League title.

However, with Pochettino's dismissal, I think Chelsea will perform badly next season because the players will definitely have to adapt again to their new coach. So in essence, if Chelsea continues to change coaches like now, I'm sure Chelsea will not experience significant progress. Maybe Chelsea will continue to remain as a mid-table team in the English league next season.
Apart from that, I don't know who the coach will replace Pochettino next season, do you know?

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Of course I'm not saying this is Man City's fault, but what I mean is the bad conditions experienced by Chelsea, MU of course has been a bonus for City, Liverpool, Arsenal put pressure on City, but in the end City was able to become champion because of the mistakes made by Liverpool and Arsenal. If Liverpool and Arsenal had not made mistakes in the last 20 matches with several lose, maybe we would have seen Liverpool and Arsenal competing for the championship. This may be considered more interesting by some people, than seeing the competition between Arsenal and City where in the end City became champion.
This rivalry between Arsenal and Man City seems predetermined in favor of Man City. Once again, Arsenal finds itself one step away from the championship cup, as if evil fate is haunting this team. It seems like the Arsenal game is missing something to deserve the title of champion. Will Man City take the cup again next season? I wouldn't be surprised if this happens.
 
I would prefer to see more teams in real competition for the Premier League Cup, since most of the league acts only as extras. But the gap from the leaders in points shows that, at the very least, only 2 teams can claim the cup, with the exception of the team that got it.

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If you are a true fan, you will never think of leaving the team just because of this decision of changing or sacking Pochettihnho; if you are a real Chelsea fan, you should have been used to different coaches because Chelsea is a team that don’t usually give coaches long time like Arsenal and Manchester United.

The new Chelsea owners are not actually trying, they don’t believe in any long term process of building team, that is why they are sacking their managers after a failed season, and I don’t think doing so will give the team the best performance they need; over changing managers can even lead the team to downfall because any new coach have to start from beginning and sign another players he feel can do better for him which is another expenses for the team and it will trigger some players to easily leave the club.
Chelsea management's decision to agree not to give Pochettino the opportunity to train for a second season may still make sense. I don't know exactly what caused the two parties to agree to no longer work together, but this agreement was taken for the common good, especially because Chelsea really hopes to return to competing tightly at the top of the standings instead of in the top 6.

Losing 11 games and conceding 63 goals in 38 games are poor statistics when we evaluate Chelsea's performance this season. The team's performance is not commensurate with the large transfer fees they spend in a season, of course that is one of the reasons why Pochettino is no longer wanted at Chelsea. Chelsea needs a coach who has proven success based on his past performance, but if Chelsea expects him to change everything in one season, then that is very difficult for any coach.
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Team-- W ---- D ---- L --Point
Manchester City
28
7
3
91
Arsenal
28
5
5
89
Liverpool
24
10
4
82
Aston Villa
20
8
10
68
Tottenham Hotspur
20
6
12
66
Chelsea
18
9
11
63
Newcastle United
18
6
14
60
Manchester United
18
6
14
60
West Ham United
14
10
14
52
Crystal Palace
13
10
15
49
Brighton and Hove Albion
12
12
14
48
Bournemouth
13
9
16
48
Fulham
13
8
17
47
Wolverhampton Wanderers
13
7
18
46
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13
9
16
40
Brentford
10
9
19
39
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9
9
20
32
Luton Town
6
8
24
26
Burnley
5
9
24
24
Sheffield United
3
7
28
16

Like i said, Manchester City is the first one, i said! Smiley

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Chelsea keeps firing manager after manager every year, firing Tuchel the moment new owner came in (that was obviously some office guys like director or consultant or whatever hating him) and then Potter and Pochettino now, basically we are talking about Chelsea keep firing managers all the time and there is really nothing that can benefit them from this at all.

Chelsea keep sacking their managers every time is not the best for the team because literally looking at how the team have been for some seasons now you will see that at some point in the season they do well but on getting to some certain stages dey lose focus and lose matches from there their performance starts reducing and when they are also winning they try to win consecutively just like they did towards the end of the season though during the season there was a time when they win one match and draw the next or even lose but since they were able to finish top 6 position in the league table have shown that they have recorded lots of improvements of which if they continue with that energy next season they will do better but since the management chose to fire Pochettino, let's see the coach that will lead the team to a good dimension because this idea of sacking coaches by Chelsea and Manchester United is alarming although as for Manchester United, they really need a new coach and they were even the team i thought would sack their coach instead of Chelsea.

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Todd is a big idiot if he really go for a mid coach to be frank we have tried it out and it failed awfully, what the hell do he see with those associated with Brighton, though I think Hansi Flink is also a consideration and I will prefer him to the others on the list now.
Whoever the coach is of course needs time to process to build the Chelsea team, everything will not be easy and it will be instant even if they buy a lot of players.
Todd Boehly makes mistakes again and again, I don't think he can rebuild the Chelsea team he once had if he can't go through the process.
It was a very stupid decision and I really hated it.
Initially I was very confident in Pochettino for next season when Chelsea managed to impress towards the end of the season.
To be frank as a Chelsea fan I'm so sick and tired of Todd, when things are becoming better and players are being to do better then, he is taking us to like square one again.

Though if Chelsea had failed to finished 6th, I would have supported him but after this I would love to see how he fair next season, guess we thought we're now seeing why Todd was patient with him until this absurd sack, I think Todd is just looking for management he can control, who can kiss his a*s

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This problem is also faced to Manchester United too, the fans and managements always like to sack the manager when Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League or didn't become a champion in top competition.

Both of the teams need to learn if Rome wasn't built in a day, process is really important. It's only exception if the team is full of star players and can perform like Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, if they didn't win, it's due to the manager.
Pochettino dismissal certainly surprised us because previously the two parties had no problems at all, besides that when Pochettino came to Chelsea, Chelsea condition was indeed in a slumped condition and at that time Chelsea management chose Pochettino to continue the work left by Tuchel with two-season contract, but precisely when at this time Pochettino began able to at least improve Chelsea performance and make Chelsea able to return to play in the competition Europe next season, Chelsea fired him without consideration at all of what Pochettino has done at this time, I think the dismissal is none other than the bad relationship between Pochettino and Chelsea owners, so far Pochettino wants a firm decision in recruiting the players he wants in the transfer market without interference from Chelsea owners, but Chelsea owners reject this,  in addition, there are many videos circulating on Platform X, If it looks Pochettino does not want to shake hands with Chelsea owners when their last game is over and Pochettino prefers to pass it.    

What you are saying is true, Chelsea should be able to give at least one more season for Pochettino to build the Chelsea squad, because I think now Chelsea are starting to have a lot of changes in their performance, but it seems that Chelsea management wants instant results without wanting to know about the process so they might look for another coach who can immediately have a significant impact on the squad next season.

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In my opinion other top teams who ought to have challenge Man City for the title were all shadow of former self with exception of Arsenal, I expected teams like Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham to give Man City a run of their money unfortunately they couldn't live up many fans expectations, though I give credit to Guardiola for putting up a formidable squad despite selling some his quality players at the beginning of season yet against all odds clinched the league title for four consecutive time thus breaking a record in EPL, well the season is gone, however I believe other top teams would boost their squad and sign quality players for next season so as to stop Man City winning another title.
Arsenal was in a better position to challenge Manchester city to win the premier league title this season, they were in a better position to getting that done but they weren't calculative enough to know crucial games and handle them as such rather it felt like they did treated every game like the same at a point in time until they were just few Weeks to the end of the season they took every game serious knowing about their rival.

Arsenal had games that would have kept them at advantage even before the last few weeks of the title race, if they had won one of their fixtures against Aton villa I'm sure Manchester city wouldn't have had much advantage over arsenal because Arsenal would have been ahead of them with a good number of point such that they would have been able to maintain their pase and get to win the trophy, winning Aston villa would have kept Arsenal at an extra two points advantage to winning the title but then they lost to Aston villa and that affected them in the long run.

Another way Arsenal would have been able to have the chance to winning the league title would have been through Manchester united been able to draw against Manchester city, that would have kept Manchester city at a two points handicapped which would have been balanced by goal difference by Arsenal and rhst way they would have been at the advantage of winning the league title because Arsenal had more goals.

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It's true, this season of course Arsenal are better than last season, even though they failed to win the EPL this season but of course changes have been seen with them being able to finish in second place, this is quite good, because they had the opportunity to win but failed because there were Manchester City still dominates the League. Arsenal's good performance deserves appreciation because of course Arsenal have done their best this season so they can be in second place. but they are still not lucky, because Manchester City is stronger and has better performance so they can win the EPL.

Arsenal need to improve their performance a little for next season, because Arsenal has the opportunity to perform better next season to become a strong team and perhaps be able to compete with Manchester City. With the funds they have, of course they can recruit quality players to make Arsenal stronger next season.

At the very least, the competition for the 23-24 season trophy will run until week 38. For two seasons now, Arsenal has always provided quite tough competition. especially, in this season. Failing to return to the race for the Premier League trophy despite spending huge funds, Arteta must evaluate his team's squad for next season. I haven't followed what steps the Gunner will take in the next summer transfer window. However, it seems that bringing in new arrivals cannot be ruled out. especially, for pure strikers that the brand should have. Plus, some of the previous players need to improve their performance. the rest, releasing incompetent players. In fact, overall Arsenal didn't play badly. Unfortunately, in several matches Arsenal had difficulty winning the match, especially when several of their players were injured, Arsenal experienced 5 matches with defeats out of the 38 total played. Two points behind City isn't too bad, although TheCitizen was able to maintain its ranking for its fourth season. well, let's just follow what Arsenal is doing. Apart from that, City will also definitely improve the squad by bringing in several new arrivals. However, there are also several teams that look like they will be quite exciting competitors in next season's competition, one of which may be Newcastle. As a team whose shares are mostly owned by FIP, perhaps they will be more serious in competing next season by bringing in quality players. plus, several other clubs that might surprise us. and now, let's see what the big clubs in the Premier League will do in the transfer window.




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Chelsea's performances have been poor since the start of the season. But Pochettino managed to stabilize the team until the end. No one probably imagined that we would see this team in sixth place in the table. The Chelsea team was not even in the top 10 of the table for a long time.

I think the main reason for Pochettino leaving Chelsea is because of not having a good relationship with the Chelsea management. We have seen the problems within Chelsea's management for a long time. This is probably the only reason Pochettino left Chelsea.
Even though Chelsea's performance was so bad at the start of the season, Pochettino managed to bring Chelsea to a sixth-place finish and that looks extraordinary in my opinion.
Apart from not having a good relationship with management, I also heard that Chelsea fans don't like Pochettino and he even received harsh criticism when his team lost.
If Chelsea Management can solve the existing problems, maybe Pochettino can do much better next season, but the decision to leave may have been a big consideration for him and it has already become a decision.

If Chelsea fans don't like Pochettino then I think Pochettino's decision to leave Chelsea is right. Because if Chelsea lose a match the fans will only blame and abuse Pochettino. Moreover, we know that there are infighting among Chelsea's management. These are the reasons why Pochettino decided not to stay with Chelsea. But Pochettino managed to stabilize the Chelsea team a lot. Chelsea would benefit if Pochettino stays with Chelsea next season.

Rumor has it that Manchester United management are interested in a deal with Pochettino. It is certain that Ten Hag will not be retained as Manchester United coach. Manchester United have been searching for a new coach for a long time. So next season is likely to see Pochettino with Manchester United.

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Todd is a big idiot if he really go for a mid coach to be frank we have tried it out and it failed awfully, what the hell do he see with those associated with Brighton, though I think Hansi Flink is also a consideration and I will prefer him to the others on the list now.
Whoever the coach is of course needs time to process to build the Chelsea team, everything will not be easy and it will be instant even if they buy a lot of players.
Todd Boehly makes mistakes again and again, I don't think he can rebuild the Chelsea team he once had if he can't go through the process.
It was a very stupid decision and I really hated it.
Initially I was very confident in Pochettino for next season when Chelsea managed to impress towards the end of the season.
To be frank as a Chelsea fan I'm so sick and tired of Todd, when things are becoming better and players are being to do better then, he is taking us to like square one again.

Though if Chelsea had failed to finished 6th, I would have supported him but after this I would love to see how he fair next season, guess we thought we're now seeing why Todd was patient with him until this absurd sack, I think Todd is just looking for management he can control, who can kiss his a*s

Seeing the end like this I wasn't surprised, right from the beginning when things are not normal for Chelsea is only fans that are complaining while the management decided to keep mute from there i know they have plan already, even me that was not their fan don't like how they were playing, back then Pochettino was also saying a statement that even though they will fire him the should live the players because he believes in them, i think we are the one that were surprised even Pochettino knew that he is going, because of the agreement the had, they set a targets for him to win some certain numbers of matches which he couldn't deliver and this happened, am hoping to see beautiful beginning from them if they start new season. If am to to make decisions there i will open door for compromise to give him second chance because there are sudden change in their performance and it really look amazing which i believe they have Started understanding each other.

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