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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 90 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 32 (16.5%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.1%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.2%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
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Chelsea have everything but a solid mindset in them. The players are good, the wage structure is broken but at least the players are happy. But we have to keep in mind that a club does not fix itself from the ruins in just one or two seasons.

I think for them to get back in the Big 6 status, Todd Boehly has to ensure more trust in the manager and the players and let them do their things. If they are given time, things will start going their way more often. The manager that they have right now is great and had a great season with Leicester. He needs to be given enough time, and they will return to who they were 2-3 years back.

Another key factor is ensuring consistency and steadfastness within the realm of team leadership. The constant shuffling of managerial roles can sow seeds of doubt, impede progress for the future, and in turn stunt growth in the long term. So anyway, it falls upon Todd Boehly to demonstrate faith and backing towards the incumbent manager; allowing them the liberty to actualize their strategies and ideologies without looming expectations of immediate outcomes.

Moreover, the issue about the players' adaptation time in being introduced to the new system and establishing a harmony between them cannot be overstated. A strong team does not come into existence within a day but instead through processes that take time, effort, and shared experiences. An enduring achievement is more often than not reliant on an individual's patience which ultimately results in a sustainable club for generations.

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July 11, 2024, 09:40:55 PM

Honestly, I am expecting Liverpool to lose form due to the exit of Klopp as ahead coach.it is not that they will drop significantly, but there will be a decline in performance because the new coach may not play the same pattern like that of Klopp was playing.but if new coach may decide to follow Klopp's pattern it may help, but may be a great help for them next season because it is pattern they are use to.

I don't see Liverpool losing form due to Klopp's exit because every coach has their different coaching tactics and we don't know what the new coach Arne Slot has to offer to the team, when the season officially kicks off then we can truly know if Klopp's exit affected the team's performance or not but since the season hasn't started yet it will be difficult to say Liverpool will underperform after Jurgen Klopp left his coaching career with the club.

Let's not be surprised that Arne Slot can even turn things around for Liverpool and they win more trophies than they won under Jurgen Klopp because regardless of the fact that Klopp did a great work for Liverpool but he didn't achieve much trophies during his coaching career with the team so Slot might be the one to bring them more trophies home.

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July 11, 2024, 09:43:09 PM

That's actually some good stats provided, and I think the major factor even concerned in this is actually the age limit of Salah, I mean the man is almost at the finishing touches of his career and getting to pay a whole of cash when his contract is about to expire is just something that only a desperate team can do and I don't see anyone coming to make such an offer to get Salah plus Liverpool would not give him knowing the vitality of his presence on the team.
I saw few days back that a Saudi team is interested in Salah and so they are going to pay huge amounts as usual, obviously it appears they may be in their desperation for such an almost aging player and wanting to spend such huge funds on him but the fact still remains that for the Saudi side, it's just a promotional technique and that's why they don't mind welcoming players who appears to have come off age from the English side so as to help promote their leagues and gain as much attention as they desire. Liverpool may not be willing to pay huge salaries but would mostly want to still keep him going by his importance to the team.

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July 11, 2024, 09:50:27 PM

Honestly, I am expecting Liverpool to lose form due to the exit of Klopp as ahead coach.it is not that they will drop significantly, but there will be a decline in performance because the new coach may not play the same pattern like that of Klopp was playing.but if new coach may decide to follow Klopp's pattern it may help, but may be a great help for them next season because it is pattern they are use to.

I don't see Liverpool losing form due to Klopp's exit because every coach has their different coaching tactics and we don't know what the new coach Arne Slot has to offer to the team, when the season officially kicks off then we can truly know if Klopp's exit affected the team's performance or not but since the season hasn't started yet it will be difficult to say Liverpool will underperform after Jurgen Klopp left his coaching career with the club.

Let's not be surprised that Arne Slot can even turn things around for Liverpool and they win more trophies than they won under Jurgen Klopp because regardless of the fact that Klopp did a great work for Liverpool but he didn't achieve much trophies during his coaching career with the team so Slot might be the one to bring them more trophies home.

You have to consider that one and the other coach took office in the era of teams like Manchester City, Arsenal, and many others. The competition in the EPL with such teams, including Liverpool is extremely high and it is much harder to win, so it is likely that Liverpool will not win trophies with the new coach either, but I doubt they will get worse

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July 11, 2024, 09:50:56 PM

Chelsea have everything but a solid mindset in them. The players are good, the wage structure is broken but at least the players are happy. But we have to keep in mind that a club does not fix itself from the ruins in just one or two seasons.
Chelsea lacks experience key players, the team lacks the drive/manners to take responsibilities quite often and that`s why even when they perform poorly, you can still see them not really bother by their performance while when they do well they just see any need for improvement. That`s why most times after they do well in a game and get a win they usually finds it difficult to get a draw or win in the next game.  

I think for them to get back in the Big 6 status, Todd Boehly has to ensure more trust in the manager and the players and let them do their things. If they are given time, things will start going their way more often. The manager that they have right now is great and had a great season with Leicester. He needs to be given enough time, and they will return to who they were 2-3 years back.
If there are not good performance from the Chelsea team under Enzo Maresca, He should be sacked because it is not just about winning since this will show if there`s any hope of the team becoming better in the long run since even Potter did well in his charge of Brighton before his move to Chelsea.

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July 11, 2024, 10:38:03 PM

Salah and Liverpool situation is dragging a lot more than we assumed. I feel like he is a great player but for how many more years? If they can make some money on him, they should try to make some money on him and sell him for a good amount, that way they can get a younger player, maybe not as good as salah now, but will be better than salah in a few years due to his age.

So that would be a better idea, you are not looking to replace salah on his peak, you are looking to replace salah who will be terrible in a few years for a Liverpool team looking for prime salah times. That's why getting a younger player who is worse than prime salah, but better than salah in a few years is the way to go for their future and development.

Having Salah till next season is not suppose to be, I mean the player have tried his best for the club and his achievement for the club and how long he have stayed is a big sign for him to say it's time to go. I agree with about getting a younger player to replace him and Anthony Michael Gordon from Newcastle is a better option, thought Liverpool are eying to get his signature and they should go for him as soon as possible. They can release Salah if he refuses to leave because if Mo stays he won't be as effective as he used to be rather he'll only become a problem to the other players in terms of supporting the players to mark, so letting him go is the best choice.
And Liverpool don't need a player that would be better than Salah in years to come but someone the new coach can start his project with, after all they have bucket loads of young stars who have been there waiting to fill in the gap but if they don't think players from the academy can't perform like they want I'll still suggest they go for Anthony Gordon, he's a better players to replace Salah.

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July 11, 2024, 10:49:49 PM

With considerations like that, indeed, Arne Slot should be able to build good chemistry because in this way, Arne Slot will be able to keep Liverpool good with the young players Liverpool currently has. Because indeed, this Liverpool team can be said to have a good bond or chemistry so I always see Liverpool as having a solid squad and that would be good for improving their performance throughout the season.

We have to be positive about this, because I want to see a much Stronger Liverpool than last season, because for me it is essential that things go as they are, that there are no inconsistencies where we see a Liverpool start to lose everything and what Happened to Chelsea happens to them, the truth is that would be very sad, for now the players they have are very good, and I am sure that the new coach will not do things well, I think that all the Fans of this team continue to Deserve much more.


Yes I think being more optimistic about good changes in the team is what is required at the moment sin e the team is still in good shape and has a good number of players who are still in good form, Last season was a very challenging season for Klopp and Liverpool it was as if the team was becoming too tired as it was seen by the performance of the players who grew from being very hot to a total decline in performance towards the end of the season.

Upon the arrival of the new coach, the Liverpool team is hoping to get better than they were and stand as one of the major competitors in the champions League and the English Premier League, it will be a good thing if the fans are reassured once more to keep believing in the Liverpool team when the team keep winning matches next season.



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Having Salah till next season is not suppose to be, I mean the player have tried his best for the club and his achievement for the club and how long he have stayed is a big sign for him to say it's time to go. I agree with about getting a younger player to replace him and Anthony Michael Gordon from Newcastle is a better option, thought Liverpool are eying to get his signature and they should go for him as soon as possible. They can release Salah if he refuses to leave because if Mo stays he won't be as effective as he used to be rather he'll only become a problem to the other players in terms of supporting the players to mark, so letting him go is the best choice.
And Liverpool don't need a player that would be better than Salah in years to come but someone the new coach can start his project with, after all they have bucket loads of young stars who have been there waiting to fill in the gap but if they don't think players from the academy can't perform like they want I'll still suggest they go for Anthony Gordon, he's a better players to replace Salah.

I don’t get it why you thinks that Liverpool should sell of their best player. Salah last season had a mixed season where he had injuries that kept him out of the team and this affected the team. Yes I know Salah is not untouchable but right now he doesn’t seems like some that they can easily replace. In every season players like Salah will offer you double digit of goals and this one thing that is usually hard to see In most wingers, so letting him leave now will be a disaster to me.

Last season there was a huge bid from the saudi pro league and Liverpool immediately turned it down stressing the importance of their star player. There are youngsters coming up the ranks but you can’t simply push away the older players without them settling in, take a look at the departure of mane who many thought could easily be replaced by Luiz Diaz, right now the player himself is yet to cement his name in the club and he is currently been looking at leaving too. As for Anthony Gordon, he is a gem and will be a great signing but he doesn’t play the right wing like Salah, so his signing wouldn’t be to replace Salah

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You have to consider that one and the other coach took office in the era of teams like Manchester City, Arsenal, and many others. The competition in the EPL with such teams, including Liverpool is extremely high and it is much harder to win, so it is likely that Liverpool will not win trophies with the new coach either, but I doubt they will get worse
Liverpool may not be bad next season with their new coach, so this team still has to be an important consideration for other teams such as Manchester City and Arsenal. Because even though it won't be easy to become champions in the Premier League, teams that often make mistakes and can't win in several matches will of course be of better benefit to the other teams. So Manchester City and Arsenal still have to get better if they want to continue competing for the title again next season.

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Having Salah till next season is not suppose to be, I mean the player have tried his best for the club and his achievement for the club and how long he have stayed is a big sign for him to say it's time to go. I agree with about getting a younger player to replace him and Anthony Michael Gordon from Newcastle is a better option, thought Liverpool are eying to get his signature and they should go for him as soon as possible. They can release Salah if he refuses to leave because if Mo stays he won't be as effective as he used to be rather he'll only become a problem to the other players in terms of supporting the players to mark, so letting him go is the best choice.
And Liverpool don't need a player that would be better than Salah in years to come but someone the new coach can start his project with, after all they have bucket loads of young stars who have been there waiting to fill in the gap but if they don't think players from the academy can't perform like they want I'll still suggest they go for Anthony Gordon, he's a better players to replace Salah.

I don’t get it why you thinks that Liverpool should sell of their best player. Salah last season had a mixed season where he had injuries that kept him out of the team and this affected the team. Yes I know Salah is not untouchable but right now he doesn’t seems like some that they can easily replace. In every season players like Salah will offer you double digit of goals and this one thing that is usually hard to see In most wingers, so letting him leave now will be a disaster to me.

Last season there was a huge bid from the saudi pro league and Liverpool immediately turned it down stressing the importance of their star player. There are youngsters coming up the ranks but you can’t simply push away the older players without them settling in, take a look at the departure of mane who many thought could easily be replaced by Luiz Diaz, right now the player himself is yet to cement his name in the club and he is currently been looking at leaving too. As for Anthony Gordon, he is a gem and will be a great signing but he doesn’t play the right wing like Salah, so his signing wouldn’t be to replace Salah

I totally agree with you about his abilities of getting double digits in terms of goals but let's face the reality that Salah isn't the Salah of 2-3 seasons back, injury has gotten the best of this player and no matter how you see him as the best player someone will still come and he (Salah) will have to serve the team from the bench, is time to let go and start up a new chapter, if Liverpool continue to rely on Salah I don't see them doing well when he's not around maybe due to injury or possibly not in form. Liverpool need to try something new, fine he's their best player but for how long will he carry the load of the team on his shoulders? To me this is the right time and it would be bad to see him sit on the bench while a teenager is on the pitch as a replacement.
At the moment of Saudi chasing to get Salah, Liverpool never had that chance of getting any player till this very moment and it would have been a poor decision if they had let him go but now they have options to get into the market and get players to start up a new project with.
I must say that Diaz wasn't a replacement for Mane, sometimes it mustn't be that when a player leaves the next is coming to replace him, no, things had to be done in a different way to make the team a bit different from when someone left and when a new player comes in. For Gordon I believe the position doesn't matter, as long as he gives the team his best he's good to go and with time Salah's presence won't be felt in the team.

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That's actually some good stats provided, and I think the major factor even concerned in this is actually the age limit of Salah, I mean the man is almost at the finishing touches of his career and getting to pay a whole of cash when his contract is about to expire is just something that only a desperate team can do and I don't see anyone coming to make such an offer to get Salah plus Liverpool would not give him knowing the vitality of his presence on the team.
I saw few days back that a Saudi team is interested in Salah and so they are going to pay huge amounts as usual, obviously it appears they may be in their desperation for such an almost aging player and wanting to spend such huge funds on him but the fact still remains that for the Saudi side, it's just a promotional technique and that's why they don't mind welcoming players who appears to have come off age from the English side so as to help promote their leagues and gain as much attention as they desire. Liverpool may not be willing to pay huge salaries but would mostly want to still keep him going by his importance to the team.
Considering the reports about Mohammed Salah's future this time last year, I was expecting him to leave Liverpool at the end of the just concluded season but from all indications, it seems the Egyptian isn't leaving the Anfield club this summer. Last summer, few Saudi clubs were very much interested in Mohammed Salah and reports have it that he told one of them that he'll leave of Liverpool will allow him go but the club management didn't give a go ahead to that deal which was why it didn't work out again.
Now recent reports also have it that another Saudi club is seriously interested in signing Mohammed Salah. The Egyptian winger if you ask me have gone past his peak so moving to the Middle East country where he'll earn a lot of money in his last years as a professional footballer I think will not be a bad move for him.

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You have to consider that one and the other coach took office in the era of teams like Manchester City, Arsenal, and many others. The competition in the EPL with such teams, including Liverpool is extremely high and it is much harder to win, so it is likely that Liverpool will not win trophies with the new coach either, but I doubt they will get worse
Liverpool may not be bad next season with their new coach, so this team still has to be an important consideration for other teams such as Manchester City and Arsenal. Because even though it won't be easy to become champions in the Premier League, teams that often make mistakes and can't win in several matches will of course be of better benefit to the other teams. So Manchester City and Arsenal still have to get better if they want to continue competing for the title again next season.

To see Liverpool's performance next season, we need to look at the composition of their players if they still play with the same squad as last season yeah maybe they can still compete in the top 4 the only thing we are worried about is Mo Salah moving to the Saudi Pro League so that means Liverpool have to find a replacement, as we know Mo Salah is one of the mainstay players of course it is not easy to find a replacement for this player. So far we don't know whether Mo Salah will stay at Liverpool or not.

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You have to consider that one and the other coach took office in the era of teams like Manchester City, Arsenal, and many others. The competition in the EPL with such teams, including Liverpool is extremely high and it is much harder to win, so it is likely that Liverpool will not win trophies with the new coach either, but I doubt they will get worse
Liverpool may not be bad next season with their new coach, so this team still has to be an important consideration for other teams such as Manchester City and Arsenal. Because even though it won't be easy to become champions in the Premier League, teams that often make mistakes and can't win in several matches will of course be of better benefit to the other teams. So Manchester City and Arsenal still have to get better if they want to continue competing for the title again next season.
To see Liverpool's performance next season, we need to look at the composition of their players if they still play with the same squad as last season yeah maybe they can still compete in the top 4 the only thing we are worried about is Mo Salah moving to the Saudi Pro League so that means Liverpool have to find a replacement, as we know Mo Salah is one of the mainstay players of course it is not easy to find a replacement for this player. So far we don't know whether Mo Salah will stay at Liverpool or not.
So far there have been no rumors of important players in the Liverpool team leaving, including Mo Salah.
Next season Liverpool will experience difficulties with their new coach, this is very possible because the transition that occurs in a team with a new coach will not be able to maintain performance or make the team better in its first season so I think Liverpool will remain in the top 4 will be quite difficult.
Arne Slot doesn't have the experience to train a big team that competes fiercely like in the Premier League, so I doubt Liverpool next season because of that.

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So far there have been no rumors of important players in the Liverpool team leaving, including Mo Salah.
Next season Liverpool will experience difficulties with their new coach, this is very possible because the transition that occurs in a team with a new coach will not be able to maintain performance or make the team better in its first season so I think Liverpool will remain in the top 4 will be quite difficult.
Arne Slot doesn't have the experience to train a big team that competes fiercely like in the Premier League, so I doubt Liverpool next season because of that.
As there is no news of important players leaving, Arne Slot will retain existing players.

I will not doubt him now before the season starts and see how the composition of Liverpool's game with the strategy that Arne Slot is doing, maybe there are skeptics but we will see how he steps up for Liverpool.

So far, catching up with Manchester City may still be difficult, but at least competing with the top 4 is more than enough for the new coach, even though Liverpool slumped in the standings later we must understand the coach needs adaptation with a lot of time.

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Joshua Zirkzee has officially become Manchester United's first signing of the season and he has signed a 5-year contract until 2029.
I think MU was lucky enough to get a profitable deal from Bologna because MU was allowed to pay the transfer fee of 40$ in installments, meaning MU didn't bother spending a lot of money to recruit the players they needed this season.

Joshua Zirkzee performed well with Bologna last season. Hopefully his move to the Premier League will have a positive impact on the Red Devils.

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I think for them to get back in the Big 6 status, Todd Boehly has to ensure more trust in the manager and the players and let them do their things. If they are given time, things will start going their way more often. The manager that they have right now is great and had a great season with Leicester. He needs to be given enough time, and they will return to who they were 2-3 years back.

I agree with you. Todd Boehly couldn't put pressure on Enzo Maresca in his first season. New coaches usually need a season or two to adapt and find the right chemistry between players. I think Chelsea's first season will not have good results. Although I hope that at least Chelsea can get a top six position in the standings. Chelsea had spent a lot of money on players in the previous season but they failed to become a star except for Cole Palmer. I haven't heard any rumors regarding Chelsea transfers this season but I hope they can be wiser in managing their finances.

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Salah and Liverpool situation is dragging a lot more than we assumed. I feel like he is a great player but for how many more years? If they can make some money on him, they should try to make some money on him and sell him for a good amount, that way they can get a younger player, maybe not as good as salah now, but will be better than salah in a few years due to his age.

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Salah is currently 32 years old so it makes sense for Liverpool to sell him to make a profit. However, if for example Liverpool sells Salah in the current transfer window or next season, it is likely that Liverpool will experience a very significant decline in performance. Because as we know, Salah has always been a mainstay on Liverpool's front line, you could even say he is a senior player at Liverpool. So if Salah is sold by Liverpool, his team's performance will be quite bad. Moreover, as far as I know, Liverpool currently doesn't have a player who can really fill Salah's position (right wing). So selling Salah at this time could be said to be the wrong choice.

Because even though Liverpool bought new young players after selling Salah, I believe the results are still very speculative. So in my personal opinion, Liverpool would be better off buying one or two young players now (who have wing or front positions) without having to sell Salah. Because Salah can be a good mentor for these young players. So when Salah really experiences a decline in performance in the next few years, these young players could be good replacements.
Apart from that, I personally am very confident that Salah will definitely get a contract extension of at least 1 or 2 years at Liverpool. It is even possible that Salah will retire at Liverpool. The reason is that Liverpool is the team he has defended for more than 7 years. So his love for Liverpool must be very big right now.

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You have to consider that one and the other coach took office in the era of teams like Manchester City, Arsenal, and many others. The competition in the EPL with such teams, including Liverpool is extremely high and it is much harder to win, so it is likely that Liverpool will not win trophies with the new coach either, but I doubt they will get worse
Liverpool may not be bad next season with their new coach, so this team still has to be an important consideration for other teams such as Manchester City and Arsenal. Because even though it won't be easy to become champions in the Premier League, teams that often make mistakes and can't win in several matches will of course be of better benefit to the other teams. So Manchester City and Arsenal still have to get better if they want to continue competing for the title again next season.

To see Liverpool's performance next season, we need to look at the composition of their players if they still play with the same squad as last season yeah maybe they can still compete in the top 4 the only thing we are worried about is Mo Salah moving to the Saudi Pro League so that means Liverpool have to find a replacement, as we know Mo Salah is one of the mainstay players of course it is not easy to find a replacement for this player. So far we don't know whether Mo Salah will stay at Liverpool or not.

I think, the players will going to miss their formal manager because it will take them a long seasons before they will begin to perform excellently like when their formal manager was there, because this new manager has a lot of work to do to make the players to showcase some positive skills that will make people to believe the team again. Based on the rumors on ground, Salah will not spend long time with Liverpool before he will join Saudi Arabia league team, because the funds the team managements agree to sign Salah is a huge amount of funds which will make Salah to change his mind soon. It will be better if Liverpool manager can start searching for potential striker that will replace Salah position when him leave the team, but it will be difficult for Liverpool to end up in top fourth next season.

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I think for them to get back in the Big 6 status, Todd Boehly has to ensure more trust in the manager and the players and let them do their things. If they are given time, things will start going their way more often. The manager that they have right now is great and had a great season with Leicester. He needs to be given enough time, and they will return to who they were 2-3 years back.

Chelsea actually have players that are capable of bringing result to that club but unfortunately it’s surprising to see how some of these players performed excellently in their previous clubs but their performance decline after joining Chelsea. I don’t know if it’s the couch fault or the entire system about the club. There is a saying that Rome was not built in one day. It will definitely take Chelsea some time to rebuild the team to be on their former track but do they have that time to exercise patience. Other clubs can tolerate a manager even in their trying time but Chelsea doesn’t belong to that category despite it is not bringing them result.

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I think for them to get back in the Big 6 status, Todd Boehly has to ensure more trust in the manager and the players and let them do their things. If they are given time, things will start going their way more often. The manager that they have right now is great and had a great season with Leicester. He needs to be given enough time, and they will return to who they were 2-3 years back.

Chelsea actually have players that are capable of bringing result to that club but unfortunately it’s surprising to see how some of these players performed excellently in their previous clubs but their performance decline after joining Chelsea. I don’t know if it’s the couch fault or the entire system about the club. There is a saying that Rome was not built in one day. It will definitely take Chelsea some time to rebuild the team to be on their former track but do they have that time to exercise patience. Other clubs can tolerate a manager even in their trying time but Chelsea doesn’t belong to that category despite it is not bringing them result.
You have answered the question yourself at the bottom of your reply that all these problems occurred with management or Chelsea president Todd Boehly who did not give much time to any coach who wanted to build the club even stronger.
A more obvious example is Pochettino's dismissal when this coach managed to make a very good contribution at the end of the season but unfortunately the coach was fired without any reason.
Meanwhile, all clubs need a long time to achieve a bright future to get a prestigious title like Manchester City and other clubs do, but Todd Boehly doesn't seem to have that experience so he wants something quick to get and is thinking about changing coaches at any time. can make a difference to the club.

Currently Enzo Maresca has been chosen as the new coach and this is the right choice for Todd Boehly but it depends on whether he will be retained later when he experiences a little problem and if he is retained, Chelsea will return to its glory days but if not, Chelsea will continue to experience the same thing.

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