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July 11, 2024, 06:30:33 PM

Salah and Liverpool situation is dragging a lot more than we assumed. I feel like he is a great player but for how many more years? If they can make some money on him, they should try to make some money on him and sell him for a good amount, that way they can get a younger player, maybe not as good as salah now, but will be better than salah in a few years due to his age.

So that would be a better idea, you are not looking to replace salah on his peak, you are looking to replace salah who will be terrible in a few years for a Liverpool team looking for prime salah times. That's why getting a younger player who is worse than prime salah, but better than salah in a few years is the way to go for their future and development.

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July 11, 2024, 06:57:46 PM

Salah and Liverpool situation is dragging a lot more than we assumed. I feel like he is a great player but for how many more years? If they can make some money on him, they should try to make some money on him and sell him for a good amount, that way they can get a younger player, maybe not as good as salah now, but will be better than salah in a few years due to his age.

So that would be a better idea, you are not looking to replace salah on his peak, you are looking to replace salah who will be terrible in a few years for a Liverpool team looking for prime salah times. That's why getting a younger player who is worse than prime salah, but better than salah in a few years is the way to go for their future and development.

Theoretically this is true, but specifically in this situation such logic is hardly applicable. Salah's contract expires in the summer of 2025. What's the point of paying a lot of money for him if after a year you can get him for free? Plus he has a huge salary in Liverpool, so he is interested in working out the contract to the end and if he leaves, it will be on no worse terms. It turns out that you can’t sell Salah at a high price and you can’t replace him cheaply either, so Liverpool is interested in Salah continuing to play.

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July 11, 2024, 07:12:40 PM

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A team that already has or has found its best performance will of course not need many more changes so that it spends a lot of money in the transfer market, in contrast to a team that has not yet found its best performance or is currently developing, they will spend a lot of money in the transfer market and that is normal. Previously Liverpool and Manchester City also spent quite a lot of money in the transfer market.

Klopp built Liverpool from the moment he arrived, there is a character attached to the team with Klopp, I see it as similar to Man United and previous coach Alex Ferguson.
So Klopp's departure will of course create something missing in the Liverpool team that will be difficult to find again.
A team's transfer spending reveals their soul. Under Klopp, observe Liverpool. A few wise purchases, a well-maintained machine, championships. They win that way. But Klopp quitting? Thats huge. It is similar to Ferguson's leaving United. Everything changes. And look at United and Chelsea now, for all the money they have flung about. A mess. A total mess.

So, Slot? His job is hard. It goes beyond just money here. Its about knowing your business. It has to do with vision. a winning vision. And you cannot purchase that for any price either. He has to find out how to develop and keep this team hungry. Its a new game now, new tactics, new players. Though it's not going to be simple, hey, thats what makes it enjoyable. We'll see whether he has what it takes to keep Liverpool top-notch.

Lets observe. Lets see what happens. For this reason, my friends, football is the best game available worldwide. Unpredictability, drama. And keep in mind, folks, its not about the money. It is about winning.

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July 11, 2024, 07:16:02 PM

Jurgen Klopp's long time at Liverpool has created an emotional bond and it won't be easy to let go. Even though sometimes under Klopp's tutelage Liverpool played under-performing, he was still able to gain trust and was able to bring Liverpool back up again. Fans, management, players will definitely feel the loss of a coach who has always given them something. Now he had made a decision and it was respected by all. I think Klopp's role may still be related to Liverpool, like Sir Alex Ferguson with Manchester United, but he will move behind the scenes, not as usual who is always on the sidelines. Another thing that I judge about Liverpool is that they were late in carrying out regeneration, even though they could have done it while Klopp was still with them. However, it is not too late because in the future they can still do it. However, what is noteworthy is how their new coach can build great trust so that he will get something that the coaches expect.
Jurgen Klopp's togetherness at Liverpool has made us even immediately remember Klopp when we hear the word Liverpool. Because after all, he has been at Liverpool and has been a coach there since 2015. So it is difficult even for those of us who are very used to seeing Liverpool coached by Klopp. So of course the club and the players there will also feel a very deep loss. And yes, I also think Liverpool should regenerate their squad since Klopp was still there. Just like what Real Madrid always does in Laliga, which always continues to regenerate with the right timing when there is still a coach they can still rely on. But Liverpool might do it at the same time as a new coach arrives at the club. Arne Slot might do it this season.

But so far I haven't seen Liverpool getting any new players in the current transfer market. and Liverpool have actually released around 5 players. Namely Joel Matip, Thiago Alcantara, Calvin Ramsay, Anderson Arroyo and Adrian. But because the transfer market is still ongoing, there is still time for this team if they want to recruit potential young players in the transfer market.

What surprised me the most was Man City. Because I haven't gotten any updates about them in the current transfer market. They also haven't made much movement in the transfer market at the moment. Except for two of their players who went to Wolves and Southampton, namely Taylor Harwood and Tommy Doyle.

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With considerations like that, indeed, Arne Slot should be able to build good chemistry because in this way, Arne Slot will be able to keep Liverpool good with the young players Liverpool currently has. Because indeed, this Liverpool team can be said to have a good bond or chemistry so I always see Liverpool as having a solid squad and that would be good for improving their performance throughout the season.
After Klopp resigned as Liverpool coach, Liverpool indeed needed a revolution. Even though this is a very high stake for Liverpool, especially Arne's slot because he must be able to become Klopp's successor at Liverpool, plus many people doubt Arne Slot. However, he once brought Feyenoord to the Dutch League championship. So all fans must support him to build a strong Liverpool squad, especially since Liverpool has many talented players.

Apart from that, I think Arne Slot will find it easy to get chemistry because he is assisted by three Dutch players in the Liverpool squad. Moreover, Van Dijk, who is the team captain, will certainly help the coach, but he still has to adapt first. Luckily Arne Slot also has a good squad that Klopp left behind, Slot just needs to fix his shortcomings, especially the front line which must have players with good finishing.

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July 11, 2024, 07:28:43 PM

With considerations like that, indeed, Arne Slot should be able to build good chemistry because in this way, Arne Slot will be able to keep Liverpool good with the young players Liverpool currently has. Because indeed, this Liverpool team can be said to have a good bond or chemistry so I always see Liverpool as having a solid squad and that would be good for improving their performance throughout the season.

We have to be positive about this, because I want to see a much Stronger Liverpool than last season, because for me it is essential that things go as they are, that there are no inconsistencies where we see a Liverpool start to lose everything and what Happened to Chelsea happens to them, the truth is that would be very sad, for now the players they have are very good, and I am sure that the new coach will not do things well, I think that all the Fans of this team continue to Deserve much more.
It wl be impossible for Liverpool to do better next season than this past season because Klopp is no longer in Liverpool if not it will be possible because last season they finished on Europa position and this season they are able to go to UCL because they finished third on the table.

Liverpool will no longer be in the he battle race for the title next season unlike the past season that they were also rivals to both Arsenal and City. The players are strong and they can still finish on top four if tgeu all put their heads together with Slot to bring out their best performance next season.

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July 11, 2024, 07:34:35 PM

With considerations like that, indeed, Arne Slot should be able to build good chemistry because in this way, Arne Slot will be able to keep Liverpool good with the young players Liverpool currently has. Because indeed, this Liverpool team can be said to have a good bond or chemistry so I always see Liverpool as having a solid squad and that would be good for improving their performance throughout the season.
We have to be positive about this, because I want to see a much Stronger Liverpool than last season, because for me it is essential that things go as they are, that there are no inconsistencies where we see a Liverpool start to lose everything and what Happened to Chelsea happens to them, the truth is that would be very sad, for now the players they have are very good, and I am sure that the new coach will not do things well, I think that all the Fans of this team continue to Deserve much more.

I continue to see things from positive side of view despite the negativity perceived to be seen coming for Liverpool after Jurgen Klopp left the club and Arne Slot was brought in as the new manager of the team. He might be new to Liverpool but not new to the English football. What he most needed is the right players to help him get what he wants for the next season and seeing from the list of available squad now and not adding up with the players that will be signed before the beginning of the new season, it shows that he will do well as the manager of the team. Liverpool still remains a worthy contender of the premier league next season even if they are starting under the management of a new coach we don’t know his coaching abilities. The available players are enough to some extent that they can help push the team to greatness and I don’t have much doubt on them.

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July 11, 2024, 07:43:18 PM

After Klopp resigned as Liverpool coach, Liverpool indeed needed a revolution. Even though this is a very high stake for Liverpool, especially Arne's slot because he must be able to become Klopp's successor at Liverpool, plus many people doubt Arne Slot. However, he once brought Feyenoord to the Dutch League championship. So all fans must support him to build a strong Liverpool squad, especially since Liverpool has many talented players.

Apart from that, I think Arne Slot will find it easy to get chemistry because he is assisted by three Dutch players in the Liverpool squad. Moreover, Van Dijk, who is the team captain, will certainly help the coach, but he still has to adapt first. Luckily Arne Slot also has a good squad that Klopp left behind, Slot just needs to fix his shortcomings, especially the front line which must have players with good finishing.
On the one hand, Liverpool already has all the players they need on the field with quality that is quite stable. And it is a strong squad that Klopp has built and that Arne Slot must continue. But on the one hand, this club really needs several young players to replace several players who are no longer young. and will probably leave Liverpool in the next few seasons. I hope Liverpool make preparations from this season. So that they can still be a strong team if one day the current players start to leave one by one because they are no longer young. And what I mean is Salah's position. Salah may still be able to stay at this club for several seasons because he is only 32 years old. But Liverpool must prepare a replacement for this striker from now on. So that in the next few seasons prepared young players will be ready to take Salah's position if Salah decides to leave. But for other positions Liverpool still has a lot of young players so it's not a problem if they don't prepare from now. The most important thing right now is that Arne slot has to adapt to everything.

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July 11, 2024, 07:47:53 PM

Salah and Liverpool situation is dragging a lot more than we assumed. I feel like he is a great player but for how many more years? If they can make some money on him, they should try to make some money on him and sell him for a good amount, that way they can get a younger player, maybe not as good as salah now, but will be better than salah in a few years due to his age.

So that would be a better idea, you are not looking to replace salah on his peak, you are looking to replace salah who will be terrible in a few years for a Liverpool team looking for prime salah times. That's why getting a younger player who is worse than prime salah, but better than salah in a few years is the way to go for their future and development.

Theoretically this is true, but specifically in this situation such logic is hardly applicable. Salah's contract expires in the summer of 2025. What's the point of paying a lot of money for him if after a year you can get him for free? Plus he has a huge salary in Liverpool, so he is interested in working out the contract to the end and if he leaves, it will be on no worse terms. It turns out that you can’t sell Salah at a high price and you can’t replace him cheaply either, so Liverpool is interested in Salah continuing to play.
That's actually some good stats provided, and I think the major factor even concerned in this is actually the age limit of Salah, I mean the man is almost at the finishing touches of his career and getting to pay a whole of cash when his contract is about to expire is just something that only a desperate team can do and I don't see anyone coming to make such an offer to get Salah plus Liverpool would not give him knowing the vitality of his presence on the team.

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July 11, 2024, 08:20:44 PM

Salah and Liverpool situation is dragging a lot more than we assumed. I feel like he is a great player but for how many more years? If they can make some money on him, they should try to make some money on him and sell him for a good amount, that way they can get a younger player, maybe not as good as salah now, but will be better than salah in a few years due to his age.

So that would be a better idea, you are not looking to replace salah on his peak, you are looking to replace salah who will be terrible in a few years for a Liverpool team looking for prime salah times. That's why getting a younger player who is worse than prime salah, but better than salah in a few years is the way to go for their future and development.

Liverpool can sell Salah to Saudi Arabia, but as long as he can play his best, they have no reason to do so. Now he is 32 years old, under his contract he can play for Liverpool for another year, perhaps after that they will want to sell him, but now I see no reason why they should get rid of him. He still scores goals, he is one of the leaders of the team and I have not seen him expressing any desire to leave the team.

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Liverpool players and fans will wish Klopp never left their clubs as their club is going to struggle to stay relevent. Liverpool had been falling off but the players love klopp and played for him as one of their own but with a new coach things won't be the same anymore. I'll be betting more on Liverpool game next season and I'll be betting against them in games as they will not have the same strength they usually do. The players are old and not fresh therefore we can't see the same competing spirit they had in past seasons. Liverpool making top 4 would depend on how other top teams plays and how the competition is going to be like in the league and not as a result of how Liverpool plays in next season. When you see klopp as in the image, it's only Liverpool that comes to my mind and I don't think that can change.
It became a bond that was very difficult to separate indeed but in the end Klopp also realized that the longer he was in one club the more difficult flexibility he had in the end and consciously or not in the last 2 seasons I think Klopp's performance has decreased so it would be better for him and Liverpool to also think about the best for the future than in the end Klopp forced to be at Anfield which made his performance even lower and even hated so it would be better to break the bond before their relationship deteriorated.

It is undeniable that 8 seasons is not a short time for Klopp and Liverpool but for the sake of regeneration and refreshment for the club I think letting Klopp go now is the right step even though we will definitely have concerns with the new coach but in the end this must be passed in order to make Liverpool solid in the future.

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Honestly, I am expecting Liverpool to lose form due to the exit of Klopp as ahead coach.it is not that they will drop significantly, but there will be a decline in performance because the new coach may not play the same pattern like that of Klopp was playing.but if new coach may decide to follow Klopp's pattern it may help, but may be a great help for them next season because it is pattern they are use to.

During the season when teams play match, don't you see that some training session are not that serious, this is because the team/squad are already used to how the coach teach them especially when it's a coach that has been with them for long, it's not everytime the coach will have to repeat things for them. If Arne Slot doesn't really change the squad, the team wouldn't lag that much due to the exit of Klopp.

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In fact, since last season, we have been witnessing a decline in Liverpool's performance. As their form has started to decline, the new coach must work very hard before the team can pick up their great form again. From my perspective, if Liverpool can signed more quality players to strengthen the squad. However, without proper guidance, they may face an unexpected decline, similar to Chelsea.Changing the coach always brings changes to the team, either bad or good, but it is more likely to be bad in the coach's first season with the team. Nonetheless, I hope Liverpool experiences positive changes next season.

The decline wasn't because they weren't doing well, remember that Salah wasn't feeling too well due to his injuries because of the Afcon he went to represent Egypt and his team lost. When Klopp needed him, he wasn't fit to play and the team wasn't in good shape. Manchester City was on fire and they trash all the teams that comes to their way because they were ready to win the Premier League. I guess Liverpool weren't that desperate the way Manchester were else they would have push harder.

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July 11, 2024, 08:53:59 PM

Liverpool will be a difficult team even without Klopp, even though we know that Klopp left this team of course it will not make this team completely paralyzed, I'm sure they will be a team that makes it difficult for all their opponents, especially Arne Slot is not a bad coach either, he it just takes time to adapt to all the players in Liverpool's current main squad or new players who will be recruited later, Arne Slot seems to be making Liverpool much better but it needs to be quite a long process as Klopp spent so long at Liverpool building this team into a team strong and difficult.

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Yes, even though Klopp has now left Liverpool, that doesn't mean Liverpool's performance will be completely destroyed. Because what is certain is that everything Klopp teaches Liverpool players will definitely be well absorbed. So you can be sure that the playing style of Liverpool players next season will definitely remain the same as when Klopp coached. Maybe Arne just needs to improve every weakness that Liverpool players have little by little and I'm sure if that happens Liverpool will still be a very tough competitor in the Premier League. However, if for example Arne overhauls the entire strategy implemented by Klopp at Liverpool, I doubt Liverpool will be able to compete closely in the Premier League this season. Because of course it takes dedication and quite a long time to be able to make changes to the team according to the coach's plan.

But if I were Arne, I think Klopp's strategy would be better implemented at Liverpool. Because in my opinion, Liverpool actually performed very well this season. However, the problem is that Liverpool players this season are often hit by injuries, so Liverpool's performance this season is inconsistent. Well, if for example Arne can maintain the fitness of Liverpool's players next season so they rarely get injured, I'm sure Liverpool will definitely be able to perform optimally. So in essence, Arne's task at Liverpool is not too difficult if it leads to the things I mentioned. Even though, each coach always has his or her own style. However, after I saw Liverpool, who are currently not moving much in the transfer market. Maybe it can be concluded that Arne seems to really believe in the squad that Liverpool currently has. And it is possible that he will continue to apply the strategy that Klopp applied to Liverpool players.

There is no point talking about Arne implementing the strategies of Klopp in my opinion. Every coach has their own way of thinking. And I am not going to be surprised if it is different compared to Klopp. we also have to understand that yes the tactics that Klopp implemented, worked really well for Liverpool for a long time. But that does not mean Liverpool will never be able to change and that also does not mean that other tactics are not going to work with Liverpool. Football is always changing. Tactics will always evolve.

Now I understand why you are saying that Liverpool might continue playing the way they did before as they did not make any big move in the transfer market. But some players are capable of playing in very different ways. I guess we all can just speculate until we actually see the Liverpool team play on the field.

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It would be very risky if Arne Slot didn't maintain good relations with anyone, including Salah. I think Slot will always maintain good relations with everyone because of course he doesn't want to darken his reputation at Anfield.
As a coach, one of the things you should learn is  how to maintain good relationships with players. If you can’t do that, then you are already setting traps for yourself, and the club will never perform well. If a coach is having conflict with players, the players might not be performing well for the club, and they will want the coach to be sacked early, so if Slot knows what’s best for him, he shouldn’t create any problems with any player.

Liverpool players and fans will wish Klopp never left their clubs as their club is going to struggle to stay relevent.
Seriously, Liverpool will miss Kloop, and his absence will really have an impact on Liverpool. Things are not really going to be easy for Liverpool next season. Even as they have a new coach, which we all believe will improve their performance, it’s going to take time before the new coach will have his own squad, which he will have confidence in.

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July 11, 2024, 09:21:09 PM

Salah and Liverpool situation is dragging a lot more than we assumed. I feel like he is a great player but for how many more years? If they can make some money on him, they should try to make some money on him and sell him for a good amount, that way they can get a younger player, maybe not as good as salah now, but will be better than salah in a few years due to his age.

So that would be a better idea, you are not looking to replace salah on his peak, you are looking to replace salah who will be terrible in a few years for a Liverpool team looking for prime salah times. That's why getting a younger player who is worse than prime salah, but better than salah in a few years is the way to go for their future and development.

The moment when a player joins any team they know they have to leave one day no matter if we are talking about Salah in Liverpool or Mbappe in PSG. The fact about both cases is the team should be ready to lose the p[alyer. Salah played for Liverpool for years and now he is about to leave even in the next season when he got good offers from Saudi teams he was very close to it.
I think they had to think about alternative players months ago before Salah decided to leave.

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July 11, 2024, 09:22:11 PM

Chelsea getting a huge cash injection is not going to "solve" anything for them. Lets be real, they do not have a bad team anyway, and they got a good manager, that is not the problem and money certainly isn't because they have some awesome players they bought as well, overpaid mostly too.

The issue they have is that they are not a "team", like if anyone thinks that City has the best team in the world, or at least in this league, has no idea about football, they have one of the best, but not better than everyone enough to win it four in a row. Why are they dominating then? Because they are a team, and being a team beats anything else in the world. Chelsea needs to learn to be a team, and if they do that, then sky is the limit for them, they have everything else ready.
Chelsea do have a team, but how effective is that team. They have a lot of young players I think don't have enough experience to pilot the affairs of the London pride and it played out last season. If the management of the club wants to pump in Money to help the manager buy some players he feels will help improve on the teams current performance, I don't see any problems with that.

The kind of team you're looking out for Chelsea to get will Definitely take a bit of a time, Chelsea literally overhauled their team for last season and brought in new set of players who for me I still think are learning on the job, give them the next two seasons or even lesser, then you will see the army they will turn out to be. Mikel Arteta had almost similar experience with arsenal, but today the Gunners are one of the most solidify team in the English premier League.

Chelsea have everything but a solid mindset in them. The players are good, the wage structure is broken but at least the players are happy. But we have to keep in mind that a club does not fix itself from the ruins in just one or two seasons.

I think for them to get back in the Big 6 status, Todd Boehly has to ensure more trust in the manager and the players and let them do their things. If they are given time, things will start going their way more often. The manager that they have right now is great and had a great season with Leicester. He needs to be given enough time, and they will return to who they were 2-3 years back.

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Chelsea have everything but a solid mindset in them. The players are good, the wage structure is broken but at least the players are happy. But we have to keep in mind that a club does not fix itself from the ruins in just one or two seasons.

I think for them to get back in the Big 6 status, Todd Boehly has to ensure more trust in the manager and the players and let them do their things. If they are given time, things will start going their way more often. The manager that they have right now is great and had a great season with Leicester. He needs to be given enough time, and they will return to who they were 2-3 years back.

Another key factor is ensuring consistency and steadfastness within the realm of team leadership. The constant shuffling of managerial roles can sow seeds of doubt, impede progress for the future, and in turn stunt growth in the long term. So anyway, it falls upon Todd Boehly to demonstrate faith and backing towards the incumbent manager; allowing them the liberty to actualize their strategies and ideologies without looming expectations of immediate outcomes.

Moreover, the issue about the players' adaptation time in being introduced to the new system and establishing a harmony between them cannot be overstated. A strong team does not come into existence within a day but instead through processes that take time, effort, and shared experiences. An enduring achievement is more often than not reliant on an individual's patience which ultimately results in a sustainable club for generations.

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July 11, 2024, 09:40:55 PM

Honestly, I am expecting Liverpool to lose form due to the exit of Klopp as ahead coach.it is not that they will drop significantly, but there will be a decline in performance because the new coach may not play the same pattern like that of Klopp was playing.but if new coach may decide to follow Klopp's pattern it may help, but may be a great help for them next season because it is pattern they are use to.

I don't see Liverpool losing form due to Klopp's exit because every coach has their different coaching tactics and we don't know what the new coach Arne Slot has to offer to the team, when the season officially kicks off then we can truly know if Klopp's exit affected the team's performance or not but since the season hasn't started yet it will be difficult to say Liverpool will underperform after Jurgen Klopp left his coaching career with the club.

Let's not be surprised that Arne Slot can even turn things around for Liverpool and they win more trophies than they won under Jurgen Klopp because regardless of the fact that Klopp did a great work for Liverpool but he didn't achieve much trophies during his coaching career with the team so Slot might be the one to bring them more trophies home.

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July 11, 2024, 09:43:09 PM

That's actually some good stats provided, and I think the major factor even concerned in this is actually the age limit of Salah, I mean the man is almost at the finishing touches of his career and getting to pay a whole of cash when his contract is about to expire is just something that only a desperate team can do and I don't see anyone coming to make such an offer to get Salah plus Liverpool would not give him knowing the vitality of his presence on the team.
I saw few days back that a Saudi team is interested in Salah and so they are going to pay huge amounts as usual, obviously it appears they may be in their desperation for such an almost aging player and wanting to spend such huge funds on him but the fact still remains that for the Saudi side, it's just a promotional technique and that's why they don't mind welcoming players who appears to have come off age from the English side so as to help promote their leagues and gain as much attention as they desire. Liverpool may not be willing to pay huge salaries but would mostly want to still keep him going by his importance to the team.

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July 11, 2024, 09:50:27 PM

Honestly, I am expecting Liverpool to lose form due to the exit of Klopp as ahead coach.it is not that they will drop significantly, but there will be a decline in performance because the new coach may not play the same pattern like that of Klopp was playing.but if new coach may decide to follow Klopp's pattern it may help, but may be a great help for them next season because it is pattern they are use to.

I don't see Liverpool losing form due to Klopp's exit because every coach has their different coaching tactics and we don't know what the new coach Arne Slot has to offer to the team, when the season officially kicks off then we can truly know if Klopp's exit affected the team's performance or not but since the season hasn't started yet it will be difficult to say Liverpool will underperform after Jurgen Klopp left his coaching career with the club.

Let's not be surprised that Arne Slot can even turn things around for Liverpool and they win more trophies than they won under Jurgen Klopp because regardless of the fact that Klopp did a great work for Liverpool but he didn't achieve much trophies during his coaching career with the team so Slot might be the one to bring them more trophies home.

You have to consider that one and the other coach took office in the era of teams like Manchester City, Arsenal, and many others. The competition in the EPL with such teams, including Liverpool is extremely high and it is much harder to win, so it is likely that Liverpool will not win trophies with the new coach either, but I doubt they will get worse

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