[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC!

[FallingKnife]

Big volume for UNO today.

It seems a large UNO wallet that was hacked has finally made its way to Coinexchange and is being dumped.
The theft was announced months ago and some adept UNO wallet watchers have been follow it.

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[FallingKnife]

Centralized exchanges continue to implode without warning.  UNO has been part of more failed exchanges than I care to remember.

I'm here to challenge you to say "No More!!"  No more Uno stolen from exchanges like Cryptsy. No more waiting for 100 or more blocks for coins to be deposited into wallets.  No more delayed withdrawals.  No more account 'lock outs'.  No more KYC.  No more begging and paying to be listed.  Fuck all that.



The past couple of months I've been experimenting with a true decentralized exchange, BlockDX.  A true Dex keeps you in control of your keys. It doesn't swap your valuable Unobtanium for some shit proxy coin. It doesn't allow an exit scam opportunity for the gateway exchanging the real Uno for fake Uno.

UNO has such an exchange available to it right now, and you can start trading on it today.  There are small buy/sell orders for UNO on BlockDX that will let you get started today.  

Take the FK Challenge

I challenge you to make a small UNO trade on BlockDX today so you can experience for yourself what true trading freedom is.

What you will need:
 UNO qt wallet from https://Unobtanium.uno
BLOCK qt wallet (v 3.12.1) https://blocknet.co/block-dx/
BLOCK DX software (1.0.0)  https://blocknet.co/block-dx/

Sync your wallets first.  
Place a little Uno into your Uno wallet.
Put a little Block into your block wallet (if I know you, PM me your Block addy and I'll send you a little dust to get started).
Start BlockDX software and follow the prompts to add Block and Unobtanium as trading coins.

Your UNO and Block wallets will need to be unlocked to trade or place trades.
To unlock your UNO QT wallet you will need to go to the Console and type:    walletpassphrase  yourPassphrase  1000000
That will unlock your wallet for a million seconds so you don't have to think about it for awhile.

Place your first trade.  If you have any trouble, let me know.

I want to bump this... give dex trading a try, guys.

[four3200]

Big volume for UNO today.

It seems a large UNO wallet that was hacked has finally made its way to Coinexchange and is being dumped.
The theft was announced months ago and some adept UNO wallet watchers have been follow it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unobtanium/comments/ag8pua/cryptopia_hack_announced_15_jan_2019/

cryptopia still has yet to audit their UNO.

[TuDaMu]

A new block explorer and data analysis for uno!

uno.tokenview.com/en/

Have a try!

[four3200]

I am still having hell with TradeToshi; if you trade a few $100 then they call that suspicious [freeze your account] and make you do fullest KYC level3 AND you sign/fax a "I am not a terriorist" affidavit.  The whole process takes +5 weeks.  Trade there if you like frozen accounts and arrogant cust.service.

TradeFada STILL has not fixed an accounting error, but at least they seem to have some customer support.  But the BNB pair trades at no fee.  Again no fee trade.  So if the exchange is sincere that would be pretty niffty for the blue stuff.

Bleutrade I am afraid will go full KYC freeze crazy too.  They are transitioning to a newer GUI, and I advise wait a few weeks to see what their policy becomes post transition.  But UNO is dominating the $usdt board even over the btc-$usdt pair.  Which is niffty too.

Coinexchange has been old reliable.  BUT the 0.01 withdraw fee is silly... $1? srsly?  I am interested in negotiating for a LTC and DOGE and ETC pairing there.

I don't play at Frei or the NLG exchanges, yet, so please report/rate if you do!  NLG has a bch-uno pairing, which would be awesome if you hold bch, i don't, but you will get 3.3 uno per bcash this week.  Which is odd since uno has 1/84 the circulation and about x2 the hash power  

And last Cryptopia ... not much to say.

And the DEX ... do it!

And http://uno.tokenview.com/en/charts
cool stuff, Oriental language support, UNO is ever expanding the language/geography/nationality of its community.

Uno是一种独特的低通胀，稀缺，公平发布以及分配SHA256算法的工作量证明加密货币。仅有25万Uno将在接下来的300年被挖出。Uno和比特币混合挖矿，能够形成一个安全的且比比特币快3倍的高难度区块链。 Uno不仅仅是币的数量少而罕见，而且因为它的公平发布和分配。Uno没有预挖， 发布是在比特币论坛预先通知的，是无争议的公平，最先的1000个区块是低奖励的，提供给矿工配置矿机装置的时间。它没有权益证明的通货膨胀。Uno没有隐藏或暗地发布。



play it long

[mavigro]

Centralized exchanges continue to implode without warning.  UNO has been part of more failed exchanges than I care to remember.

I'm here to challenge you to say "No More!!"  No more Uno stolen from exchanges like Cryptsy. No more waiting for 100 or more blocks for coins to be deposited into wallets.  No more delayed withdrawals.  No more account 'lock outs'.  No more KYC.  No more begging and paying to be listed.  Fuck all that.

https://i.redd.it/myxedy6p37311.gif

The past couple of months I've been experimenting with a true decentralized exchange, BlockDX.  A true Dex keeps you in control of your keys. It doesn't swap your valuable Unobtanium for some shit proxy coin. It doesn't allow an exit scam opportunity for the gateway exchanging the real Uno for fake Uno.

UNO has such an exchange available to it right now, and you can start trading on it today.  There are small buy/sell orders for UNO on BlockDX that will let you get started today.  

Take the FK Challenge

I challenge you to make a small UNO trade on BlockDX today so you can experience for yourself what true trading freedom is.

What you will need:
 UNO qt wallet from https://Unobtanium.uno
BLOCK qt wallet (v 3.12.1) https://blocknet.co/block-dx/
BLOCK DX software (1.0.0)  https://blocknet.co/block-dx/

Sync your wallets first.  
Place a little Uno into your Uno wallet.
Put a little Block into your block wallet (if I know you, PM me your Block addy and I'll send you a little dust to get started).
Start BlockDX software and follow the prompts to add Block and Unobtanium as trading coins.

Your UNO and Block wallets will need to be unlocked to trade or place trades.
To unlock your UNO QT wallet you will need to go to the Console and type:    walletpassphrase  yourPassphrase  1000000
That will unlock your wallet for a million seconds so you don't have to think about it for awhile.

Place your first trade.  If you have any trouble, let me know.

Challenge taken, the past 2-months have been a fun and educational ride leading into the recent OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY / UNO finding originated on 4/14 @ 10PM in the Block-dx Discord channel with outcome posted in Telegram this morning 4/16 @3:47A that the Refund mechanism is not working for UNO-QT ver 0.10.4 due to lack of OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY support. Looking forward to hearing back from UNO Dev on getting the needed support in QT to process DX Refunds.

[four3200]

Why UNO is cool stuff, yet another reason, after E/Hash, Fair Launch, Rarity, Age of Genesis, is ...

Cost of value storage

BTC-Bitcoin        $10222
ETH-Ethereum    $9444
LTC-Litecoin      $4500
BCHABC-Bitcoin  $10014
RVN-Ravencoin  $463
ZEC-Zcash        $1200
ETC                 $4900
DASH-Dash       $10500
UNO                $35000


How is this calculated?  Simple.  Market cap divided by rewards per day.  

BTC-Bitcoin  / Pays $1 reward per day for $10222 of value stored in the market cap.   Good
RVN-Ravencoin  / Pays $1 reward per day for $463 of value stored in the market cap.  Bad
Unobtanium  / Pays $1 reward per day for $35000 of value stored in the market cap.   THE BEST


UNO is the master of this board.

Numero UNO!

But UNO is top ranked in many boards > Hash power, Age, Price point value, rarity of units, AUXpow_marketcap, more?  

[shinohai]

I posted this to telegram earlier, it is a link to a post I made on easily building unobtaniun-qt for a variety of platforms using docker.

http://btcinfo.sdf.org/blog/building-unobtanium-on-docker.html

Hope you developer folks find it useful. 

[tertius993]

Why UNO is cool stuff, yet another reason, after E/Hash, Fair Launch, Rarity, Age of Genesis, is ...

Cost of value storage

BTC-Bitcoin        $10222
ETH-Ethereum    $9444
LTC-Litecoin      $4500
BCHABC-Bitcoin  $10014
RVN-Ravencoin  $463
ZEC-Zcash        $1200
ETC                 $4900
DASH-Dash       $10500
UNO                $35000


How is this calculated?  Simple.  Market cap divided by rewards per day.  

BTC-Bitcoin  / Pays $1 reward per day for $10222 of value stored in the market cap.   Good
RVN-Ravencoin  / Pays $1 reward per day for $463 of value stored in the market cap.  Bad
Unobtanium  / Pays $1 reward per day for $35000 of value stored in the market cap.   THE BEST

Why is that good?  What's the rationale for a higher value always being better?  If you take it to its extreme a fully mined out coin, giving no reward at all, would have a value of infinity even if its market cap were trivial.

[four3200]

Why is that good?  What's the rationale for a higher value always being better?

How much does it cost?

That's the rationale.

How much value can I store on the network for $1 for 1 day?

For $1 the network will hold around $10000 on BTC, ETH, bcash, DASH ... chains.
_{*I think it is really revealing that these chains are remarkably even stevens*}

For $1 the network will hold around $500 on others.

For $1 the network will hold around $35000 on the UNO chain.

That's bottom line, hard core business, stuff, and it wins over time.

You have to pay the piper, or in crypto, the miners are the labor, a daily cost.

So which chains are effective and efficient?  

BTC, ETH, bcash, DASH, but UNO is superior by X3.5 ... a great coin to STORE VALUE.  

Which is math, matters of fact, validating UNO as a true and an excellent store of value.

[layer1gfx]

check out the newest uno-fficial news about uno here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unobtanium

Got Newbie Questions about $UNO? Ask us here. We won't judge you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unobtanium/comments/32vpcg/got_newbie_questions_about_uno_ask_us_here_we/

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[JavaScrypt]

New Coinmarketcap

https://www.coinlore.com/mineable-coins

UNO is ranked in the TOP 40 mineable coins 

[tertius993]

Why is that good?  What's the rationale for a higher value always being better?

How much does it cost?

That's the rationale.

How much value can I store on the network for $1 for 1 day?

For $1 the network will hold around $10000 on BTC, ETH, bcash, DASH ... chains.
_{*I think it is really revealing that these chains are remarkably even stevens*}

For $1 the network will hold around $500 on others.

For $1 the network will hold around $35000 on the UNO chain.

That's bottom line, hard core business, stuff, and it wins over time.

You have to pay the piper, or in crypto, the miners are the labor, a daily cost.

So which chains are effective and efficient?  

BTC, ETH, bcash, DASH, but UNO is superior by X3.5 ... a great coin to STORE VALUE.  

Which is math, matters of fact, validating UNO as a true and an excellent store of value.

That is an assertion not a rationale.

When the UNO reward schedule was changed that number would have changed massively (for the worse according to your assertion) - what was your view then?

It is an interesting calculation but I am unconvinced it is really meaningful, nor how it actually reflects the suitability or otherwise of a medium to store value.

I would suggest for most people the measures of store of value are things like consistent/predictable value over time, liquidity, ease of transaction, etc. which I do not think are reflected in this calculation.

[four3200]

"things like consistent/predictable value over time"

Let's look at that.

Take the same list of coins, anything Top20 in cap.

Look at the ATH/ATL ranges.
Look at the 52wH/52wL range.

Which is consistent?  
*ETH is 10% of ATH
*BTC is 25% of ATH
*UNO is +50% of ATH

So
which coin is nearest all time high?  ^{*hint UNO neared $125 today!}
which coin is fallen the most?  ^{*hint ZEC}

Also you could easily throw out the spiky/peaky ATH/ATL over the last 52w and UNO is looking at $125 top $75 bottom $100 middle cycle.
In the same timeline LTC goes +$300 top to $22 bottom.

This indicates that consistent/predictable value over time definition.

But 'consistent' also depends on age since genesis block, so EOS or TRX are not old enough to claim 'consistent' value.

And 'predictable' is another term UNO may qualify for, it seems to pre-dict the direction of the general market.

My point is that Value stored for $1/day is a solid metric.  
unit of measure (not unit of opinion).


Your point is slightly subjective but yes the term Store of Value is going to be open to many opinions:

-consistent/predictable value over time (volatility)
-certain liquidity amounts
-certain level of market capital
-cost/reward fees
-cost/trading fees
-cost/marketing
-other stuff?

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T:DR;

UNO community needs to invent and formulate and then promote the term Store of Value;
it is not ours alone, not yet  

So that means identifying the hard factual variables like Value stored for $1/day and others so that the argument of UNO being SoV stuff is near unanimous to the clear thinking and rationale mind.  

Not hype nor promise but measurable facts.