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September 13, 2020, 09:38:37 AM
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I think this is the matter of social gathering rather than the spider betting itself.

Unless gambling is banned in your place, I don't think spider betting is that bad. As a kid, we've been doing that for years and we don't have a problem with that to the authorities. The barangay captain of our place even joins with our fun by cheering with us. It is just we are hard-headed and loves letting these spiders fight, that is just it.

Anything is bad if gambling is illegal at the current situation, though this is just a spider betting but I'm pretty sure there are big bets involve in this game. Once a kids game but is now popular from gamblers already, police would not capture these people in the picture if there's no big money involve.

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September 13, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
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I think this is the matter of social gathering rather than the spider betting itself.

Unless gambling is banned in your place, I don't think spider betting is that bad. As a kid, we've been doing that for years and we don't have a problem with that to the authorities. The barangay captain of our place even joins with our fun by cheering with us. It is just we are hard-headed and loves letting these spiders fight, that is just it.

Anything is bad if gambling is illegal at the current situation, though this is just a spider betting but I'm pretty sure there are big bets involve in this game. Once a kids game but is now popular from gamblers already, police would not capture these people in the picture if there's no big money involve.

When police gets involved that is not only in cases when gambling is illegal. There are cases when gambling is misused for some other forbidden activities like scams and frauds or even money laundering. I guess in this case big money is involved and there is probably something illegal in the way how they got to it

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September 13, 2020, 10:05:33 AM
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I think this is the matter of social gathering rather than the spider betting itself.
Unless gambling is banned in your place, I don't think spider betting is that bad. As a kid, we've been doing that for years and we don't have a problem with that to the authorities. The barangay captain of our place even joins with our fun by cheering with us. It is just we are hard-headed and loves letting these spiders fight, that is just it.
Anything is bad if gambling is illegal at the current situation, though this is just a spider betting but I'm pretty sure there are big bets involve in this game. Once a kids game but is now popular from gamblers already, police would not capture these people in the picture if there's no big money involve.
Small or big money involve once there are/is some law about gambling that they violate they should be able to arrest or capture.
But this is difficult now, they are still minor and for sure in some country, this is different issue once minor are involved in gambling.
In terms of the current pandemic and there are some events like this, this is totally not allow in some country (just like ours).
It's difficult to control the people in gambling, even we say the money involve here are small only.

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September 13, 2020, 10:36:19 AM
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Teens gambling is a more often happening thing than many imagine. Just think of teens and playing cards - there are so many ways they could gamble there. As long as they know what that means, they may find it fun.

It's both a good and a bad thing to be honest, and it varies by situation. They may learn that sometimes life isn't fair, but in the meantime they may become addicts as well and form some shape of hatred against other players of their age. Spider (or insect) betting is something I've never heard of though, never thought this thing would even exist.
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September 13, 2020, 10:40:28 AM
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Kind of hilarious to think that this is still a thing up into these days. I mean, I just thought that this sort of game was already long gone  Cheesy.
Small or big money involve once there are/is some law about gambling that they violate they should be able to arrest or capture.
But this is difficult now, they are still minor and for sure in some country, this is different issue once minor are involved in gambling.
In terms of the current pandemic and there are some events like this, this is totally not allow in some country (just like ours).
It's difficult to control the people in gambling, even we say the money involve here are small only.
I have to agree. Minor or not, violation is still a violation, and somebody must be held accountable for such action (might be their guardian, which on some cases, would've to pay for a certain fine).

And yeah, this is kind of burdensome for the authorities to stop completely over, I'd say, constant monitoring wouldn't be enough as it can also happen elsewhere, in some places less noticeable.

Not that we're hard-headed though, it is just that events like this isn't a typical thing someone could put an end to  Undecided.
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September 13, 2020, 10:43:58 AM
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I think this is the matter of social gathering rather than the spider betting itself.

Unless gambling is banned in your place, I don't think spider betting is that bad. As a kid, we've been doing that for years and we don't have a problem with that to the authorities. The barangay captain of our place even joins with our fun by cheering with us. It is just we are hard-headed and loves letting these spiders fight, that is just it.

Anything is bad if gambling is illegal at the current situation, though this is just a spider betting but I'm pretty sure there are big bets involve in this game. Once a kids game but is now popular from gamblers already, police would not capture these people in the picture if there's no big money involve.

When police gets involved that is not only in cases when gambling is illegal. There are cases when gambling is misused for some other forbidden activities like scams and frauds or even money laundering. I guess in this case big money is involved and there is probably something illegal in the way how they got to it

Let us not go further to that, this is just a simple gambling but it's just done at the right timing. Mass gathering is discourage in the situation that's why gambling is illegal since it will create a mass gathering. Also, this is not an online gambling and the amount involve is not relatively high compared to bettors in cock fighting and sports betting, so forget about the money laundering.

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September 13, 2020, 11:36:29 AM
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What area /country is this? You forgot to mention OP. Also, if you have the article link on what you are talking about here, would be great.

Okay. I got the news article here.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1174536/4-arrested-as-spider-fights-gain-following-as-a-form-of-gambling

But it was last year, and no pandemic yet at that time. Wonder if they have spider betting during this pandemic? Parents should be responsible with their kids though.
There is a spider betting happening near at my place even if there is a pandemic. I have been watching them betting on whicg spider they think that will win the fight. I even caught a kid bet with another kid before the spider at put on a thread to fight and they even bring flashlights to go in the mountain to find spiders so they will have spiders to fight and bet.

Parents should be liable  to this kind of minors actions.

If the government successfully chased them up their parents should also be summoned and get the same cases that will
be filed against them. From this pandemic situations excuses should not be tolerated.
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September 13, 2020, 12:18:32 PM
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This is the first time I reading about Spider betting, I am now interested to see how it actually happens? I know people can bet on anything but getting kids involved in gambling is bad. These culprits should be punished and they should serve some term behind the bars. I am not sure what the law in your country states but the situation in your region is pretty bad.

It only happens in some tropical countries where most of that kinds of spiders can be easily caught and their size is not large, unlike the tarantulas.
I don't know it the westerners have this kind of hobbies because they don't have a place to catch these spiders except in the south American continents. Different countries have different traditions and cultures but this one seems unique and only in the Philippines.

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September 13, 2020, 12:20:55 PM
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What area /country is this? You forgot to mention OP. Also, if you have the article link on what you are talking about here, would be great.

Okay. I got the news article here.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1174536/4-arrested-as-spider-fights-gain-following-as-a-form-of-gambling

But it was last year, and no pandemic yet at that time. Wonder if they have spider betting during this pandemic? Parents should be responsible with their kids though.
There is a spider betting happening near at my place even if there is a pandemic. I have been watching them betting on whicg spider they think that will win the fight. I even caught a kid bet with another kid before the spider at put on a thread to fight and they even bring flashlights to go in the mountain to find spiders so they will have spiders to fight and bet.

Parents should be liable  to this kind of minors actions.

If the government successfully chased them up their parents should also be summoned and get the same cases that will
be filed against them. From this pandemic situations excuses should not be tolerated.


Of course, but the government can't put the parents in the jail and no law to that. That has been the problem in the Philippines as the "Juvenile Justice Law of 2006 " which is suppose to protect the minors has been abused as minors are not anymore afraid to make a crime since they will not go to jail.

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September 13, 2020, 01:11:22 PM
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This is the first time I reading about Spider betting, I am now interested to see how it actually happens? I know people can bet on anything but getting kids involved in gambling is bad. These culprits should be punished and they should serve some term behind the bars. I am not sure what the law in your country states but the situation in your region is pretty bad.

I was a witness to the spider fights since I was a little kid. During my time, they don't bet with money, they bet with spiders. The losing spider if lucky enough not to be eaten by the spider will now be the property of the victor. If the spider became food then either the winner will win more spiders from the losing camp. It is just sad that there money has also been a part of this. This is like the kid's cockfights and even the adults are now into this as well. I don't think gambling by teens and kids is not unique in the Philippines. There must be many cultures around the world that has their own way of gambling done by children and teens.

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September 13, 2020, 01:24:05 PM
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I as an animal lover is very sad to know that animals are use for gambling, which makes me sad from spider betting,
The spiders hurt each other. There is even a chance that one of the spiders can die, for me one life is very valuable.
Even though it's only a spider, they have the right to live. I always advise not to play gambling by hurting animals,
same thing with cockfighting.

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September 13, 2020, 01:55:34 PM
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What can you say about this? Are we really that hard headed or just love spider betting?
I saw a photo of the police also not wearing masks.
I think they are playing traditional spider gambling, if they know each other, that means: one village/city does not matter if they play.
The problem with people playing gambling comes from outside areas whose health status is not yet known, that's the problem.

Even so health protocols also need to be obeyed such as wearing a mask, the OP seems that if I look at the money in the photo, is that the Philippines area is it true.

Of concern are minors who bet on gambling, if adults in the Philippines gamble, it is not strange anymore, I think only one of the minors is involved.

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September 13, 2020, 02:14:59 PM
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This is the first time I'm hearing about spider betting. How the spiders will be given practice, and this is something difficult than giving practice to cocks and buffaloes. In my locality we've got cock fight, sparrow race, buffalo race and so on. Here in our country, these races will be conducted with legal support and police protection. If it is a gamble or betting between players then it is against the law.

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September 13, 2020, 03:09:52 PM
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Lol betting on spiders. I don't understand why people bet on this because isn't it just completely random who wins so it's 50/50? What's the thrill in that?
I think there will be thrill in it if the spider you wanted to be on a fight is in good condition before the fight. Spider battling isn't new to my country in fact even in my younger age I already been on that scenario but not really into betting more like to test who really has the best spider on the herd of children who loves to battle them.

I saw a photo of the police also not wearing masks.
That isn't already a news since that one was still from October the last year you can check the other reply just below on the OP in the first page.
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September 13, 2020, 03:33:01 PM
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I can remember growing up and the people around me love playing with spiders. Yes, it's a form of gambling and it's just sad that this kind of game is very popular among kids yet their parents still let them play with other kids even though it involves money. But since it already became a part of our childhood, parents just let them play with it. Though I don't know if kids still play this amidst the pandemic because it's quite risky. Parents are the ones responsible for their kids and shouldn't let them play outside because of the virus.
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September 13, 2020, 03:38:50 PM
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I'm pretty sure those kids aren't actually betting. Way back when we were just like at that age, we also love playing with our bought spiders. Battle it to friend's spider also. We don't need any money to gamble. Just the spider sometimes, if you won, you take my spider, If I won, I'll take yours. Sometimes we just make them fight just to know who is stronger, no betting at all.

Tho, these people should not include those kids on their bets, just let them watch. Gambling at the very young age is not well, but I believe they can manage already, but not that good.
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September 13, 2020, 04:14:13 PM
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What area /country is this? You forgot to mention OP. Also, if you have the article link on what you are talking about here, would be great.

Okay. I got the news article here.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1174536/4-arrested-as-spider-fights-gain-following-as-a-form-of-gambling

But it was last year, and no pandemic yet at that time. Wonder if they have spider betting during this pandemic? Parents should be responsible with their kids though.

The news was before the Covid Lockdown though. But I think events like this happen every time in rural places.

Kids are the only ones who has the enthusiasm to find spiders in the cornfield and up to the jungle that is why they are involve in this kind of betting. They are very zealous in finding spiders that they head to the mountain sides from 5PM to 10PM just to look for spiders and then sell these spiders to the old men who are also into spiders betting.

If they are still doing this while there is ordinance that gathering of 3 or more people aren't allowed then they are violating the ordinance. Without the pandemic, rules like this are normally ignored though.

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September 13, 2020, 05:00:00 PM
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Spiders are very attractive to kids so I see it coming that they will be involve in this kind of game but with regards to gambling or betting, I was unable to see it coming and this is not a good example for other kids who are playing spider game for fun as it will lead for the young kids to gamble in their early age.

I hope that this Police Raids will make a big impact for the kids to stop gambling anymore and they will just play spider game for fun and there will
be not money involve.
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September 13, 2020, 06:18:00 PM
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I think this is the matter of social gathering rather than the spider betting itself.

Unless gambling is banned in your place, I don't think spider betting is that bad. As a kid, we've been doing that for years and we don't have a problem with that to the authorities. The barangay captain of our place even joins with our fun by cheering with us. It is just we are hard-headed and loves letting these spiders fight, that is just it.

Anything is bad if gambling is illegal at the current situation, though this is just a spider betting but I'm pretty sure there are big bets involve in this game. Once a kids game but is now popular from gamblers already, police would not capture these people in the picture if there's no big money involve.

When police gets involved that is not only in cases when gambling is illegal. There are cases when gambling is misused for some other forbidden activities like scams and frauds or even money laundering. I guess in this case big money is involved and there is probably something illegal in the way how they got to it

Let us not go further to that, this is just a simple gambling but it's just done at the right timing. Mass gathering is discourage in the situation that's why gambling is illegal since it will create a mass gathering. Also, this is not an online gambling and the amount involve is not relatively high compared to bettors in cock fighting and sports betting, so forget about the money laundering.
The only thing i do saw on where they do really commit such mistake on where they do play out that spider betting on this pandemic situation which would indeed generate a crowd

which is primarily prohibited on times like these.So it isnt surprising that they would really be caught and would face up some violations since they do know on what is the current laws and prohibitions

towards social distancing.They had been warned but still these kids didnt listen. Wait? where are their parent?

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September 13, 2020, 07:12:42 PM
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It is not an excuse to do something against the law because of your passion.

If one kid says that he will run faster to other house than you and will pay you 10$ if you win, or you will pay him 5$ if he wins, does it count as gambling or betting and against the law?
I don't think it will fall on state definition of gambling, as for legalities there are state defined gambling in which includes the animal betting, just like this, it is illegal coz they use an animal. Cockfighting on the other hand have some process to be legal though it uses also an animal. Spider betting is a form of social gambling that is defined illegal by most of the states.

I’m sure these kids done this just as a competition and dont have any intend to earn on betting.
For countries in Asia, this is pretty much natural for them but then we should all follow the laws. Illegal is illegal.
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