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[danadc]

Lastly, avoid using Google Authenticator, there are far better Authenticators.

I think this is the very first time I am coming across someone advising against using Google authenticator , why exactly is good authenticator not good, I personally have been using it for as far as I can remember, maybe since 3 or 4 years ago, I've never encountered any issue of any kind, so I am very curious to know exactly why you are advising against using google authenticator, and what other better authenticators do you recommend.?.

I've also been using Google authenticator for years for 2FA authorization on many sites, including the Betfury site. So I would also be interested to know why he recommended avoiding the Google app. Of course, there are many other authenticators, but in fact, all of them have almost the same functionality, and I don't see any reason to change Google authenticator for some other similar app. The main thing is to back up the recovery codes and always keep them in several places to avoid the problems that Rigon had recently encountered.

Probably due to the close source feature of the google app which makes it risky in some way in case google is storing our data. Think about it, If google have access to your authenticator key. Your security might be exploited when their database was breach.

There’s still some good Authenticator out there that is open source. Open source is the typical choice of forum user since everyone can check the code. I’m not that kind of meticulous in 2FA since all my account is protected with multi layer security. I’m also using google account for a long time. Changing now for an open source Authenticator is not for me.

I get your point and it's true if breach take place the chance of being exploit is possible, we really can't tell what or how things may take place but the possibilities is not by far as hackers are always trying to attack even how secure the system they will try to penetrate and if ever things went to their directions, it will really bring big risk into our accounts, especially those security system that we think will help us to prevent attacks to happen.

In every casino there is no incentive for players to have a reward if they find a vulnerability, what they do is exploit it because they know that if they report it they will not receive anything in return and if they receive something in return it is very little and that is something which cannot be taken lightly, exceptions should be made, because when there is a casino exploit the casino usually stops all withdrawals and all players who have played normally without being in the exploit have to wait until the problem is fixed and that causes annoyance, because the others are not to blame, the fault lies only with the casino.

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I see you are discussing one very interesting question.  The question is which authentication is more preferable specifically for you.  
Many millions of people use Google authentication and do not even think about other ways.  However, everyone who has been interested in the development of blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies for a long time and at a higher level is well aware that all open source programs are always more transparent and, in a sense, even more reliable.  
And the fact that Google's closed source authentication code may well present you with certain "gifts" in the form of potential third-party access to your credentials.  This is obviously always denied by the devs of such systems, but it also obviously may well be the case in life.  All the same, in this dilemma (open/closed source), I still lean more towards the open source option in all programs.  And in particular in variants of authentication programs.  
As for security and protection against hacker attacks, it must be said that both cannot guarantee 100% protection against hacker penetration and hacking, primarily by powerful groups of hackers.  
So in this sense, Google-only authentication is not a panacea and is not the only truly reliable information security tool.  
Moreover, even theoretically I have no doubt that, at the request of the authorities, Google will certainly provide personal information to authorized bodies in the event of an official request.  This also applies to authentication data.  
Perhaps with open source authentication, the issue is also solved, of course, but not as simply as in the case of such a widespread Google.

Open-source platforms show all their bits and bobs, allowing anyone to dig into the code, spot weak spots, and suggest improvements. It's like buying a car with a see-through body - you can watch the engine and all its parts doing their thing. But remember, Google's secret sauce in authentication has its advantages. It provides a polished, always evolving service, backed up by a monster of a support system. But it's also a mystery box, possibly hiding sneaky third-party access. Kind of like eating a microwave meal - super handy, but who knows what's really in it?

You hit the nail on the head about the whole "no system is unhackable" thing. Neither open-source nor closed systems can promise total protection from cyber baddies. It's a constant game of hide and seek with hackers, always trying to stay one step ahead. As for handing over personal info when the authorities come knocking, you're on the money - it's trickier with open-source because of how these systems are spread out. But let's be real, any system can spill the beans on user info under enough pressure.

[o48o]

I see you are discussing one very interesting question.  The question is which authentication is more preferable specifically for you.  
Many millions of people use Google authentication and do not even think about other ways.  However, everyone who has been interested in the development of blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies for a long time and at a higher level is well aware that all open source programs are always more transparent and, in a sense, even more reliable.  
And the fact that Google's closed source authentication code may well present you with certain "gifts" in the form of potential third-party access to your credentials.  This is obviously always denied by the devs of such systems, but it also obviously may well be the case in life.  All the same, in this dilemma (open/closed source), I still lean more towards the open source option in all programs.  And in particular in variants of authentication programs.  
As for security and protection against hacker attacks, it must be said that both cannot guarantee 100% protection against hacker penetration and hacking, primarily by powerful groups of hackers.  
So in this sense, Google-only authentication is not a panacea and is not the only truly reliable information security tool.

There is no such thing as totally reliable security tool as eventually it comes to social engineering and user being the weakest link to be explored anyway. And so far i haven't heard of any google 2fa authenticator hacks.

Moreover, even theoretically I have no doubt that, at the request of the authorities, Google will certainly provide personal information to authorized bodies in the event of an official request.  This also applies to authentication data.  
Perhaps with open source authentication, the issue is also solved, of course, but not as simply as in the case of such a widespread Google.

By personal information, what exatcly are you talking about? I am assuming you are talking about the app collecting it. Google 2fa only collects my device ID, crash logs and diagnostics about diagnostics about the app functionality.

Even when i am using my android i am using a google account made only for that phone that has only 1 app installed and that's google 2fa auth. I keep the phone in a secure place so i don't lose it.
I am using it via prepaid anon account paid by cash so i would like to know what kind of data i am giving to third parties via google 2fa authenticator and for what purpose they are using it for?

If you are talking about data of how many exchanges and casinos i am using it for, i am pretty sure that most casinos would be happy to give my kyc and activity data anyway data to right officials if asked. As they are required to do so by aml laws.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Even with high bankroll martingale can easily eat and deplete you fund especially when you encounter a series of reds in your roll. 20+ red streak can possibly make your bankroll negative  and we all know that 20+ read streak is very possible.  I even experience this in spinning a slot. 20+ dead spin.  Imagine if I martingale my bet and I experience that 20+ streak. 

If someone doesn't realize that getting to 10+ is a sign, he should stop immediately and doesn't stop gambling. Instead, he will only run out of money if he uses big bets, especially if he gets 20+ a series of reds.

For slot games, usually after getting several losses, we can get a win which, even though it's a small win, can make us continue to gamble. So for gambling, I think it's really worth it if we stick with small bets even though we have a big bankroll because it sure hurts to see all our balances used up that day.

Usually that is true, but not every single time. You could get a lot of losses that will eventually make you run out of money and there is no return from there, it just doesn't work like that. I have seen people turn just a few dollars into thousands of dollars and then end up losing it all back again. Casinos have house edge on their side which means that it would not be possible for anyone to just keep on gambling and win.

If you gamble long enough, then you are going to end up with a loss eventually and that is the end of it, that's just going to be the case for sure, without a doubt. I hope that it gets to a point where it will not be possible for anyone to just keep on gambling for a long time and still not face 20+ losses in a row, if you keep gambling, you will reach that one day.

Reaching 20 losses in a row is not much, I have seen up to 40 losses in a row , that when I was playing at that time I came to think that the casino did not want to let me win more and that they were signing me up to lose, but then I began to Investigate about the probably fair and from there a great interest came from many people who wanted to beat the system, and remembering those times where I played so much, I wonder if the AI in the near future if it has that capacity, because it is not difficult for it nothing to learn, it is a matter of days , for you to Learn something at a master level.

[o48o]

Usually that is true, but not every single time. You could get a lot of losses that will eventually make you run out of money and there is no return from there, it just doesn't work like that. I have seen people turn just a few dollars into thousands of dollars and then end up losing it all back again. Casinos have house edge on their side which means that it would not be possible for anyone to just keep on gambling and win.

If you gamble long enough, then you are going to end up with a loss eventually and that is the end of it, that's just going to be the case for sure, without a doubt. I hope that it gets to a point where it will not be possible for anyone to just keep on gambling for a long time and still not face 20+ losses in a row, if you keep gambling, you will reach that one day.

Reaching 20 losses in a row is not much, I have seen up to 40 losses in a row , that when I was playing at that time I came to think that the casino did not want to let me win more and that they were signing me up to lose, but then I began to Investigate about the probably fair and from there a great interest came from many people who wanted to beat the system, and remembering those times where I played so much, I wonder if the AI in the near future if it has that capacity, because it is not difficult for it nothing to learn, it is a matter of days , for you to Learn something at a master level.

Then there's the confirmation bias, if we start to think that we are losing unnaturally lot, we start to notice every loss and our brains is wired so that it's telling me that we are doing something wrong or the game is rigged. Somehow we tend to forget that if there's a chance to won a lot, there must be a chance to lose as much and more. Somehow we don't think the game is rigged if we win a lot.

If you play long enough entually there will be a day when huge amount of your bets are going to be a losing bets in a row. It's just as certain that there will be a day you will win big. That's just probability statistics.

[Beparanf]

Usually that is true, but not every single time. You could get a lot of losses that will eventually make you run out of money and there is no return from there, it just doesn't work like that. I have seen people turn just a few dollars into thousands of dollars and then end up losing it all back again. Casinos have house edge on their side which means that it would not be possible for anyone to just keep on gambling and win.

If you gamble long enough, then you are going to end up with a loss eventually and that is the end of it, that's just going to be the case for sure, without a doubt. I hope that it gets to a point where it will not be possible for anyone to just keep on gambling for a long time and still not face 20+ losses in a row, if you keep gambling, you will reach that one day.

Reaching 20 losses in a row is not much, I have seen up to 40 losses in a row , that when I was playing at that time I came to think that the casino did not want to let me win more and that they were signing me up to lose, but then I began to Investigate about the probably fair and from there a great interest came from many people who wanted to beat the system, and remembering those times where I played so much, I wonder if the AI in the near future if it has that capacity, because it is not difficult for it nothing to learn, it is a matter of days , for you to Learn something at a master level.

Then there's the confirmation bias, if we start to think that we are losing unnaturally lot, we start to notice every loss and our brains is wired so that it's telling me that we are doing something wrong or the game is rigged. Somehow we tend to forget that if there's a chance to won a lot, there must be a chance to lose as much and more. Somehow we don't think the game is rigged if we win a lot.

If you play long enough entually there will be a day when huge amount of your bets are going to be a losing bets in a row. It's just as certain that there will be a day you will win big. That's just probability statistics.

The reason why we tend to lose if we play longer is that we have a very limited bankroll to cover a losing streak. The casino has an unlimited fund that's why even if you win 100 times straight, you will still lose eventually because there's a that you will lose the same streak or more than the highest winning streak since it's a game of chance.

That's why it's better to set target profit and target lose everytime you will gamble to ensure that you can control your bankroll win or lose scenario.

[danadc]

The reason why we tend to lose if we play longer is that we have a very limited bankroll to cover a losing streak. The casino has an unlimited fund that's why even if you win 100 times straight, you will still lose eventually because there's a that you will lose the same streak or more than the highest winning streak since it's a game of chance.

That's why it's better to set target profit and target lose everytime you will gamble to ensure that you can control your bankroll win or lose scenario.

Yes, but how do those of us who have little money for a balance? If we can't do more, I'm not going to pioneer 100 dollars for a casino when I know that the most likely thing is that I'll lose that money, but with a balance of 50 usd it's not much, but it's not little either, something can be done with that, If I take 50 dollars to 75 dollars that is a good profit for me, I wouldn't complain, but having 1000 dollars and taking it to 200 dollars is something that is not very acceptable, because to lose money it is better to put it in something else, maybe in another type of fun, epro as there are many players who do not care and play because it is their responsibility.

[Slow death]

Even with high bankroll martingale can easily eat and deplete you fund especially when you encounter a series of reds in your roll. 20+ red streak can possibly make your bankroll negative  and we all know that 20+ read streak is very possible.  I even experience this in spinning a slot. 20+ dead spin.  Imagine if I martingale my bet and I experience that 20+ streak. 

If someone doesn't realize that getting to 10+ is a sign, he should stop immediately and doesn't stop gambling. Instead, he will only run out of money if he uses big bets, especially if he gets 20+ a series of reds.

For slot games, usually after getting several losses, we can get a win which, even though it's a small win, can make us continue to gamble. So for gambling, I think it's really worth it if we stick with small bets even though we have a big bankroll because it sure hurts to see all our balances used up that day.

Usually that is true, but not every single time. You could get a lot of losses that will eventually make you run out of money and there is no return from there, it just doesn't work like that. I have seen people turn just a few dollars into thousands of dollars and then end up losing it all back again. Casinos have house edge on their side which means that it would not be possible for anyone to just keep on gambling and win.

If you gamble long enough, then you are going to end up with a loss eventually and that is the end of it, that's just going to be the case for sure, without a doubt. I hope that it gets to a point where it will not be possible for anyone to just keep on gambling for a long time and still not face 20+ losses in a row, if you keep gambling, you will reach that one day.

Reaching 20 losses in a row is not much, I have seen up to 40 losses in a row , that when I was playing at that time I came to think that the casino did not want to let me win more and that they were signing me up to lose, but then I began to Investigate about the probably fair and from there a great interest came from many people who wanted to beat the system, and remembering those times where I played so much, I wonder if the AI in the near future if it has that capacity, because it is not difficult for it nothing to learn, it is a matter of days , for you to Learn something at a master level.

honestly it's hard to imagine that a person can lose 40 consecutive times, to be honest that person even playing dice at auto bet won't have so much bad luck to the point of losing a lot consecutively, but nothing is impossible in gambling, if the person loses more than 5 consecutive times in sports betting, then this person needs to stop playing with greater urgency, otherwise this person will be walking towards addiction and will sell everything he has to continue playing, because in games of chance in which luck depends on winning if the person is not lucky enough to win something considerable even when he has played many games then he needs to stop playing that game and try another game

I saw a lot of people playing plinko for example and so I thought about playing too, at first I managed to convert from 5$ to 13$ but for some strange reason since I started losing, I didn't stop losing until I reached 0$, honestly that day I felt bad, but so bad that I stopped playing plinko forever, until my day turned bad, I couldn't understand how it was possible to lose so much, from 13 to 0 in a short time, but today I see that gambling that depend on luck are not worth playing because I won't be lucky to win something

[serjent05]

honestly it's hard to imagine that a person can lose 40 consecutive times, to be honest that person even playing dice at auto bet won't have so much bad luck to the point of losing a lot consecutively, but nothing is impossible in gambling, if the person loses more than 5 consecutive times in sports betting, then this person needs to stop playing with greater urgency, otherwise this person will be walking towards addiction and will sell everything he has to continue playing, because in games of chance in which luck depends on winning if the person is not lucky enough to win something considerable even when he has played many games then he needs to stop playing that game and try another game

Well, if the person losses in sports betting 5 consecutive times, it means he needs to stop because of the possibility of addiction but because he has no skill or knowledge about the sports and the teams behind it.  He is probably just guessing making sports betting a game of chance instead of skill-based.

I saw a lot of people playing plinko for example and so I thought about playing too, at first I managed to convert from 5$ to 13$ but for some strange reason since I started losing, I didn't stop losing until I reached 0$, honestly that day I felt bad, but so bad that I stopped playing plinko forever, until my day turned bad, I couldn't understand how it was possible to lose so much, from 13 to 0 in a short time, but today I see that gambling that depend on luck are not worth playing because I won't be lucky to win something

Don't be surprised, I think almost all kinds of chance based game is designed like that.  You can also experience it on dice and slots.  The longer we stay in one game the higher the chance of losing.

[abel1337]

Even with high bankroll martingale can easily eat and deplete you fund especially when you encounter a series of reds in your roll. 20+ red streak can possibly make your bankroll negative  and we all know that 20+ read streak is very possible.  I even experience this in spinning a slot. 20+ dead spin.  Imagine if I martingale my bet and I experience that 20+ streak. 

If someone doesn't realize that getting to 10+ is a sign, he should stop immediately and doesn't stop gambling. Instead, he will only run out of money if he uses big bets, especially if he gets 20+ a series of reds.

For slot games, usually after getting several losses, we can get a win which, even though it's a small win, can make us continue to gamble. So for gambling, I think it's really worth it if we stick with small bets even though we have a big bankroll because it sure hurts to see all our balances used up that day.

Usually that is true, but not every single time. You could get a lot of losses that will eventually make you run out of money and there is no return from there, it just doesn't work like that. I have seen people turn just a few dollars into thousands of dollars and then end up losing it all back again. Casinos have house edge on their side which means that it would not be possible for anyone to just keep on gambling and win.

If you gamble long enough, then you are going to end up with a loss eventually and that is the end of it, that's just going to be the case for sure, without a doubt. I hope that it gets to a point where it will not be possible for anyone to just keep on gambling for a long time and still not face 20+ losses in a row, if you keep gambling, you will reach that one day.

Reaching 20 losses in a row is not much, I have seen up to 40 losses in a row , that when I was playing at that time I came to think that the casino did not want to let me win more and that they were signing me up to lose, but then I began to Investigate about the probably fair and from there a great interest came from many people who wanted to beat the system, and remembering those times where I played so much, I wonder if the AI in the near future if it has that capacity, because it is not difficult for it nothing to learn, it is a matter of days , for you to Learn something at a master level.

honestly it's hard to imagine that a person can lose 40 consecutive times, to be honest that person even playing dice at auto bet won't have so much bad luck to the point of losing a lot consecutively, but nothing is impossible in gambling, if the person loses more than 5 consecutive times in sports betting, then this person needs to stop playing with greater urgency, otherwise this person will be walking towards addiction and will sell everything he has to continue playing, because in games of chance in which luck depends on winning if the person is not lucky enough to win something considerable even when he has played many games then he needs to stop playing that game and try another game

I saw a lot of people playing plinko for example and so I thought about playing too, at first I managed to convert from 5$ to 13$ but for some strange reason since I started losing, I didn't stop losing until I reached 0$, honestly that day I felt bad, but so bad that I stopped playing plinko forever, until my day turned bad, I couldn't understand how it was possible to lose so much, from 13 to 0 in a short time, but today I see that gambling that depend on luck are not worth playing because I won't be lucky to win something

Oh wow, 40 consecutive red is a wild. I haven't seen that kind of number on a losing streak in my whole life. I will personally reflect on myself if on that kind of losing streak. If you manage to lose 40 times in a row means you have balls of steel to try to gamble again and an incredible amount of unluckiness on your side. Our luck can't be measured but if we experience a bad day, it would be nice to still have money to take home and not letting all of your money getting burned on a casino. Casino can easily remove your luck even if you won multiple times on different days, Casino only took hours to get back all of the profits that you gained on several days of playing.

[Beparanf]

honestly it's hard to imagine that a person can lose 40 consecutive times, to be honest that person even playing dice at auto bet won't have so much bad luck to the point of losing a lot consecutively, but nothing is impossible in gambling, if the person loses more than 5 consecutive times in sports betting, then this person needs to stop playing with greater urgency, otherwise this person will be walking towards addiction and will sell everything he has to continue playing, because in games of chance in which luck depends on winning if the person is not lucky enough to win something considerable even when he has played many games then he needs to stop playing that game and try another game

I saw a lot of people playing plinko for example and so I thought about playing too, at first I managed to convert from 5$ to 13$ but for some strange reason since I started losing, I didn't stop losing until I reached 0$, honestly that day I felt bad, but so bad that I stopped playing plinko forever, until my day turned bad, I couldn't understand how it was possible to lose so much, from 13 to 0 in a short time, but today I see that gambling that depend on luck are not worth playing because I won't be lucky to win something

Oh wow, 40 consecutive red is a wild. I haven't seen that kind of number on a losing streak in my whole life. I will personally reflect on myself if on that kind of losing streak. If you manage to lose 40 times in a row means you have balls of steel to try to gamble again and an incredible amount of unluckiness on your side. Our luck can't be measured but if we experience a bad day, it would be nice to still have money to take home and not letting all of your money getting burned on a casino. Casino can easily remove your luck even if you won multiple times on different days, Casino only took hours to get back all of the profits that you gained on several days of playing.
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I think we better established first what's the winning probability of that 40 consecutive loss since it's very easy to hit that streak or more with a lower winning chance rate. But on a 50% or more win chance, It's a very rare scenario since I never encounter a 20 streak and above since my bankroll is already depleted before it will come to that point. I wonder if he is using martingale or the same bet strategy to come up with that massive loss since it will be a disaster if that bet is on martingale no matter how low the initial bet is since the strategy will intensify loss the longer the streak stays.

[avp2306]

honestly it's hard to imagine that a person can lose 40 consecutive times, to be honest that person even playing dice at auto bet won't have so much bad luck to the point of losing a lot consecutively, but nothing is impossible in gambling, if the person loses more than 5 consecutive times in sports betting, then this person needs to stop playing with greater urgency, otherwise this person will be walking towards addiction and will sell everything he has to continue playing, because in games of chance in which luck depends on winning if the person is not lucky enough to win something considerable even when he has played many games then he needs to stop playing that game and try another game

Well, if the person losses in sports betting 5 consecutive times, it means he needs to stop because of the possibility of addiction but because he has no skill or knowledge about the sports and the teams behind it.  He is probably just guessing making sports betting a game of chance instead of skill-based.

5 consecutive lose doesn't mean of addiction it just state that he doesn't know anything about the sport he's betting so maybe he need to do proper researching and watch the sports so that he can familiarized them. It also give him a lesson that betting randomly cannot get him anywhere so he need to be more smart placing his bets so that he can win next time and avoid losing for 6 times.

[piebeyb]

Well, if the person losses in sports betting 5 consecutive times, it means he needs to stop because of the possibility of addiction but because he has no skill or knowledge about the sports and the teams behind it.  He is probably just guessing making sports betting a game of chance instead of skill-based.

5 consecutive lose doesn't mean of addiction it just state that he doesn't know anything about the sport he's betting so maybe he need to do proper researching and watch the sports so that he can familiarized them. It also give him a lesson that betting randomly cannot get him anywhere so he need to be more smart placing his bets so that he can win next time and avoid losing for 6 times.

In my opinion it's not addiction but curiosity, addiction usually people will spend as much money as possible, but apart from consecutive losses it could be not because the person didn't research it but tried to find luck at high odds hoping for it but it didn't materialize or he made a bet choosing a team that is underdog but loses to a team that is not seeded, we all know sometimes there are matches where teams that are not really underdogs often win against teams that are underdogs.

Betting with losing in a row is normal because I often lose 10 times in a row so it's not because I'm an addict, after all there are certain reasons that maybe we don't know either and it's not because we don't research too, after all nobody is perfect guess the direction of the sports match correctly.

[ethereumhunter]

honestly it's hard to imagine that a person can lose 40 consecutive times, to be honest that person even playing dice at auto bet won't have so much bad luck to the point of losing a lot consecutively, but nothing is impossible in gambling, if the person loses more than 5 consecutive times in sports betting, then this person needs to stop playing with greater urgency, otherwise this person will be walking towards addiction and will sell everything he has to continue playing, because in games of chance in which luck depends on winning if the person is not lucky enough to win something considerable even when he has played many games then he needs to stop playing that game and try another game

Well, if the person losses in sports betting 5 consecutive times, it means he needs to stop because of the possibility of addiction but because he has no skill or knowledge about the sports and the teams behind it.  He is probably just guessing making sports betting a game of chance instead of skill-based.

5 consecutive lose doesn't mean of addiction it just state that he doesn't know anything about the sport he's betting so maybe he need to do proper researching and watch the sports so that he can familiarized them. It also give him a lesson that betting randomly cannot get him anywhere so he need to be more smart placing his bets so that he can win next time and avoid losing for 6 times.

But if he gets 5 consecutive defeats for a few days or weeks, he should take a break from gambling first because it can lead to gambling addiction in the long run. We may not mention that 5 losses are not gambling addiction, but for some others, it may be the beginning of gambling addiction because when we lose, our emotions will increase and cause us to place another bet. But it's just as bad for us if we don't have good information because we will only lose more. Betting on sports betting means we have to know who has a higher chance of being the winner so we can choose him and we also have the chance to win the bet.

[o48o]

Then there's the confirmation bias, if we start to think that we are losing unnaturally lot, we start to notice every loss and our brains is wired so that it's telling me that we are doing something wrong or the game is rigged. Somehow we tend to forget that if there's a chance to won a lot, there must be a chance to lose as much and more. Somehow we don't think the game is rigged if we win a lot.

If you play long enough entually there will be a day when huge amount of your bets are going to be a losing bets in a row. It's just as certain that there will be a day you will win big. That's just probability statistics.

The reason why we tend to lose if we play longer is that we have a very limited bankroll to cover a losing streak. The casino has an unlimited fund that's why even if you win 100 times straight, you will still lose eventually because there's a that you will lose the same streak or more than the highest winning streak since it's a game of chance.

That's why it's better to set target profit and target lose everytime you will gamble to ensure that you can control your bankroll win or lose scenario.

Well, yes but since technically it's about about probability, there's a chance that casino doesn't win your money even in long run. It's just high probability, and with enough people playing, it's more likely casinos end up making profit. But i agree with your bankroll control methods. Setting limits to my playing is essential for keeping it fun. As it might have fun to gamble for the rush and fear. But those have too high stake real world consequences for me.

[BitcoinPanther]

Then there's the confirmation bias, if we start to think that we are losing unnaturally lot, we start to notice every loss and our brains is wired so that it's telling me that we are doing something wrong or the game is rigged. Somehow we tend to forget that if there's a chance to won a lot, there must be a chance to lose as much and more. Somehow we don't think the game is rigged if we win a lot.

If you play long enough entually there will be a day when huge amount of your bets are going to be a losing bets in a row. It's just as certain that there will be a day you will win big. That's just probability statistics.

The reason why we tend to lose if we play longer is that we have a very limited bankroll to cover a losing streak. The casino has an unlimited fund that's why even if you win 100 times straight, you will still lose eventually because there's a that you will lose the same streak or more than the highest winning streak since it's a game of chance.

That's why it's better to set target profit and target lose everytime you will gamble to ensure that you can control your bankroll win or lose scenario.

Well, yes but since technically it's about about probability, there's a chance that casino doesn't win your money even in long run. It's just high probability, and with enough people playing, it's more likely casinos end up making profit. But i agree with your bankroll control methods. Setting limits to my playing is essential for keeping it fun. As it might have fun to gamble for the rush and fear. But those have too high stake real world consequences for me.

I think it has something to do with the house edge.  I also experience that in playing slots, it is much easier to win in the beginning of the session while it is getting harder as the session gets longer.  The series of dead spin also become longer, even reaching 20 consecutive dead spin which is not likely to happen when wee are just starting out our session.  At the end we will emptied out our bankroll because of this pattern, 1 win against 20 or more consecutive losses.  So I guess to avoid this kind of scenario, we should play different games in our entire gambling session.

[Fredomago]

Well, if the person losses in sports betting 5 consecutive times, it means he needs to stop because of the possibility of addiction but because he has no skill or knowledge about the sports and the teams behind it.  He is probably just guessing making sports betting a game of chance instead of skill-based.

5 consecutive lose doesn't mean of addiction it just state that he doesn't know anything about the sport he's betting so maybe he need to do proper researching and watch the sports so that he can familiarized them. It also give him a lesson that betting randomly cannot get him anywhere so he need to be more smart placing his bets so that he can win next time and avoid losing for 6 times.

In my opinion it's not addiction but curiosity, addiction usually people will spend as much money as possible, but apart from consecutive losses it could be not because the person didn't research it but tried to find luck at high odds hoping for it but it didn't materialize or he made a bet choosing a team that is underdog but loses to a team that is not seeded, we all know sometimes there are matches where teams that are not really underdogs often win against teams that are underdogs.

Betting with losing in a row is normal because I often lose 10 times in a row so it's not because I'm an addict, after all there are certain reasons that maybe we don't know either and it's not because we don't research too, after all nobody is perfect guess the direction of the sports match correctly.

Betting then experienced losing in a row is part of it, I mean, losing streak is not new to this industry, you need to do better with your research instead of randomly pick sports that you are not familiar, something that really needed to correct, how will you win if you don't know who's your betting with? with knowledge and with proper information or idea, the chance of winning is much better and adding to that if you have some luck the opportunity to win will be more possible, just take it when you already have some decent amount, I mean quit while you have something decent in your wallet.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Well, if the person losses in sports betting 5 consecutive times, it means he needs to stop because of the possibility of addiction but because he has no skill or knowledge about the sports and the teams behind it.  He is probably just guessing making sports betting a game of chance instead of skill-based.

5 consecutive lose doesn't mean of addiction it just state that he doesn't know anything about the sport he's betting so maybe he need to do proper researching and watch the sports so that he can familiarized them. It also give him a lesson that betting randomly cannot get him anywhere so he need to be more smart placing his bets so that he can win next time and avoid losing for 6 times.

In my opinion it's not addiction but curiosity, addiction usually people will spend as much money as possible, but apart from consecutive losses it could be not because the person didn't research it but tried to find luck at high odds hoping for it but it didn't materialize or he made a bet choosing a team that is underdog but loses to a team that is not seeded, we all know sometimes there are matches where teams that are not really underdogs often win against teams that are underdogs.

Betting with losing in a row is normal because I often lose 10 times in a row so it's not because I'm an addict, after all there are certain reasons that maybe we don't know either and it's not because we don't research too, after all nobody is perfect guess the direction of the sports match correctly.

Betting then experienced losing in a row is part of it, I mean, losing streak is not new to this industry, you need to do better with your research instead of randomly pick sports that you are not familiar, something that really needed to correct, how will you win if you don't know who's your betting with? with knowledge and with proper information or idea, the chance of winning is much better and adding to that if you have some luck the opportunity to win will be more possible, just take it when you already have some decent amount, I mean quit while you have something decent in your wallet.

This is exactly how I bet when I was pretty new to betting, I wasn't a sports fan at the time, so I hardly know who or where to place my bet on, at some point, I decided start betting according to the odds, that is I will bet for what ever team I see most gamblers betting on , and even with this strategy, I still lost most of by bet, though I won some as well, but I wasnt satisfied with the result I got.

Until I started watching sports and following it's update through the internet, I started getting better win chances and even made betting much more fun than I've ever imagined or experienced before.
Indeed, blind betting is just another way of throwing away money.

[babygun]

Betting then experienced losing in a row is part of it, I mean, losing streak is not new to this industry, you need to do better with your research instead of randomly pick sports that you are not familiar, something that really needed to correct, how will you win if you don't know who's your betting with? with knowledge and with proper information or idea, the chance of winning is much better and adding to that if you have some luck the opportunity to win will be more possible, just take it when you already have some decent amount, I mean quit while you have something decent in your wallet.

Even with doing a proper research, you can still have 10 losses in a times, but it also depends what kind of bets it are (single bets, parlay bets, ...). I don't bet that often anymore on sports, but I try to look for value bets. Sometimes you have good streaks that everything is going your way and other times not. Just keep track of everything that you bet and only at the end of the year, you should look at your return on investment.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Betting then experienced losing in a row is part of it, I mean, losing streak is not new to this industry, you need to do better with your research instead of randomly pick sports that you are not familiar, something that really needed to correct, how will you win if you don't know who's your betting with? with knowledge and with proper information or idea, the chance of winning is much better and adding to that if you have some luck the opportunity to win will be more possible, just take it when you already have some decent amount, I mean quit while you have something decent in your wallet.

Even with doing a proper research, you can still have 10 losses in a times, but it also depends what kind of bets it are (single bets, parlay bets, ...). I don't bet that often anymore on sports, but I try to look for value bets. Sometimes you have good streaks that everything is going your way and other times not. Just keep track of everything that you bet and only at the end of the year, you should look at your return on investment.

Haha,
First, I think end of the year is rather too long a time for a gambler to just keep betting without ever doing an assessment of his or her income/profit and losses..
For me, having a monthly assessment, which can be done at the end of every month, is a better way to keep track of gambling gains and losses, and this should help the gambler plan his or her life better financially..

Secondly, I agree with you, research does not necessarily connote assurance of a win, if it was sure, alot of gamblers like myself who never fall shot of researching would have been Billionaire gamblers by now, with a good research, one can still loose his or her bet over and over again, simply because, most games are not easily predicted or predictable.