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May 28, 2023, 07:42:05 PM
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Betting then experienced losing in a row is part of it, I mean, losing streak is not new to this industry, you need to do better with your research instead of randomly pick sports that you are not familiar, something that really needed to correct, how will you win if you don't know who's your betting with? with knowledge and with proper information or idea, the chance of winning is much better and adding to that if you have some luck the opportunity to win will be more possible, just take it when you already have some decent amount, I mean quit while you have something decent in your wallet.

Even with doing a proper research, you can still have 10 losses in a times, but it also depends what kind of bets it are (single bets, parlay bets, ...). I don't bet that often anymore on sports, but I try to look for value bets. Sometimes you have good streaks that everything is going your way and other times not. Just keep track of everything that you bet and only at the end of the year, you should look at your return on investment.
Haha,
First, I think end of the year is rather too long a time for a gambler to just keep betting without ever doing an assessment of his or her income/profit and losses..
For me, having a monthly assessment, which can be done at the end of every month, is a better way to keep track of gambling gains and losses, and this should help the gambler plan his or her life better financially..

Secondly, I agree with you, research does not necessarily connote assurance of a win, if it was sure, alot of gamblers like myself who never fall shot of researching would have been Billionaire gamblers by now, with a good research, one can still loose his or her bet over and over again, simply because, most games are not easily predicted or predictable.
Let's get real here. Waiting until the end of the year to check your betting wins and losses is like waiting until your car runs out of gas to refill it. It's not the best strategy, right? I'm with you, buddy. Monthly check-ins sound like a solid plan. It's like your own personal "profit and loss" statement, and who doesn't love being their own accountant?

And the whole research thing, let's be honest, it's not a guarantee for a win. If it was, we'd all be swimming in pools filled with cash Scrooge McDuck style. Games can be as unpredictable as a cat on catnip. Sometimes, you just gotta roll with the punches.

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May 28, 2023, 08:25:12 PM
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Betting then experienced losing in a row is part of it, I mean, losing streak is not new to this industry, you need to do better with your research instead of randomly pick sports that you are not familiar, something that really needed to correct, how will you win if you don't know who's your betting with? with knowledge and with proper information or idea, the chance of winning is much better and adding to that if you have some luck the opportunity to win will be more possible, just take it when you already have some decent amount, I mean quit while you have something decent in your wallet.

Even with doing a proper research, you can still have 10 losses in a times, but it also depends what kind of bets it are (single bets, parlay bets, ...). I don't bet that often anymore on sports, but I try to look for value bets. Sometimes you have good streaks that everything is going your way and other times not. Just keep track of everything that you bet and only at the end of the year, you should look at your return on investment.

Yeah, and that's right even doing proper research can't guarantee that you will not suffer from a long losing streak, if luck is not on your side you might suffer more even you have a knowledge regarding to the game, what I'm just referring to is the game that you are betting with, if you pick it randomly and you don't understand the game the chance of losing is high compared with the game that you know and the player/s that are playing is familiar with you, you can sort the advantages and you can decide according to your knowledge.

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May 28, 2023, 11:53:15 PM
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Betting then experienced losing in a row is part of it, I mean, losing streak is not new to this industry, you need to do better with your research instead of randomly pick sports that you are not familiar, something that really needed to correct, how will you win if you don't know who's your betting with? with knowledge and with proper information or idea, the chance of winning is much better and adding to that if you have some luck the opportunity to win will be more possible, just take it when you already have some decent amount, I mean quit while you have something decent in your wallet.

Even with doing a proper research, you can still have 10 losses in a times, but it also depends what kind of bets it are (single bets, parlay bets, ...). I don't bet that often anymore on sports, but I try to look for value bets. Sometimes you have good streaks that everything is going your way and other times not. Just keep track of everything that you bet and only at the end of the year, you should look at your return on investment.

Yeah, and that's right even doing proper research can't guarantee that you will not suffer from a long losing streak, if luck is not on your side you might suffer more even you have a knowledge regarding to the game, what I'm just referring to is the game that you are betting with, if you pick it randomly and you don't understand the game the chance of losing is high compared with the game that you know and the player/s that are playing is familiar with you, you can sort the advantages and you can decide according to your knowledge.


This scenario occur to people doesn't what they are doing while betting and they just place their bet randomly hoping that they could win the game. If scenarios like this will occur much better for those newbies to stop because there's nothing they can do with it and chasing will be more bad decision to do. Much better if they track their betting history to see where they got wrong bet placing and study it very well if they want to continue to gamble. Also gather more knowledge from people or even watch useful gambling videos since this is also helpful for them to gain some strategy that they can execute on their game plays.

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You know for a fact that you'll gonna get the losing streak eventually when you place the luck games like dice or crash. Everyone must have lost an amount in those games. It should be time to stop and just stick to games you could out smart the system. Live poker or just the sports betting is the way to go.

Even if you invest in Betfury, you just have to profit from their shared dividends and not from playing their games.

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Betting then experienced losing in a row is part of it, I mean, losing streak is not new to this industry, you need to do better with your research instead of randomly pick sports that you are not familiar, something that really needed to correct, how will you win if you don't know who's your betting with? with knowledge and with proper information or idea, the chance of winning is much better and adding to that if you have some luck the opportunity to win will be more possible, just take it when you already have some decent amount, I mean quit while you have something decent in your wallet.

Even with doing a proper research, you can still have 10 losses in a times, but it also depends what kind of bets it are (single bets, parlay bets, ...). I don't bet that often anymore on sports, but I try to look for value bets. Sometimes you have good streaks that everything is going your way and other times not. Just keep track of everything that you bet and only at the end of the year, you should look at your return on investment.

Yeah, and that's right even doing proper research can't guarantee that you will not suffer from a long losing streak, if luck is not on your side you might suffer more even you have a knowledge regarding to the game, what I'm just referring to is the game that you are betting with, if you pick it randomly and you don't understand the game the chance of losing is high compared with the game that you know and the player/s that are playing is familiar with you, you can sort the advantages and you can decide according to your knowledge.

If you want to maximize your chance to win the game (for skill-based games) then it's important that you have knowledge about it. This way, you'll not just place your bet blindly. But you're doing it because you have an idea about the team/players to somehow predict what likely is the outcome of the particular game, and this is based on your knowledge.

That's the edge of betting with an idea of the background of the team. So don't just guess if you can do something to become aware of the possible results based on the capabilities of the players/team.

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May 29, 2023, 04:26:40 PM
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Even with doing a proper research, you can still have 10 losses in a times, but it also depends what kind of bets it are (single bets, parlay bets, ...). I don't bet that often anymore on sports, but I try to look for value bets. Sometimes you have good streaks that everything is going your way and other times not. Just keep track of everything that you bet and only at the end of the year, you should look at your return on investment.
Yeah, and that's right even doing proper research can't guarantee that you will not suffer from a long losing streak, if luck is not on your side you might suffer more even you have a knowledge regarding to the game, what I'm just referring to is the game that you are betting with, if you pick it randomly and you don't understand the game the chance of losing is high compared with the game that you know and the player/s that are playing is familiar with you, you can sort the advantages and you can decide according to your knowledge.
I do agree that there is no connection between making your  research and getting to see what luck will do for you. I agree that people should be staying away from martingale type of methods just because of this, because that will not bring you any happiness at all, it will result with you eventually facing a big drop and there is no other way of making any profit at all, it will end with a losing streak and you will lose all your money after a series of losses.

However, I also do agree that if you know the game you are playing vs have no idea about the game you are playing, the losing possibility changes, you will lose in both, but when you do not know then you are going to lose a lot easier and a lot quicker without a doubt, that much is for sure true.

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May 29, 2023, 04:35:50 PM
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You know for a fact that you'll gonna get the losing streak eventually when you place the luck games like dice or crash. Everyone must have lost an amount in those games. It should be time to stop and just stick to games you could out smart the system. Live poker or just the sports betting is the way to go.

Even if you invest in Betfury, you just have to profit from their shared dividends and not from playing their games.
Luck based games are games I believe no gambler would say he or she has never lost on, except the gambler just started playing at the particular time.
And yeah, sports betting are really a great way to make good wining if you know the game and the players like the palm of your hands, but then, I won't consider it as out smarting the casino, since casinos still monitor each account, and wont hesitate to place a limit on any account they find to be winning too much .

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May 29, 2023, 06:07:07 PM
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Betting then experienced losing in a row is part of it, I mean, losing streak is not new to this industry, you need to do better with your research instead of randomly pick sports that you are not familiar, something that really needed to correct, how will you win if you don't know who's your betting with? with knowledge and with proper information or idea, the chance of winning is much better and adding to that if you have some luck the opportunity to win will be more possible, just take it when you already have some decent amount, I mean quit while you have something decent in your wallet.

Even with doing a proper research, you can still have 10 losses in a times, but it also depends what kind of bets it are (single bets, parlay bets, ...). I don't bet that often anymore on sports, but I try to look for value bets. Sometimes you have good streaks that everything is going your way and other times not. Just keep track of everything that you bet and only at the end of the year, you should look at your return on investment.

Yeah, and that's right even doing proper research can't guarantee that you will not suffer from a long losing streak, if luck is not on your side you might suffer more even you have a knowledge regarding to the game, what I'm just referring to is the game that you are betting with, if you pick it randomly and you don't understand the game the chance of losing is high compared with the game that you know and the player/s that are playing is familiar with you, you can sort the advantages and you can decide according to your knowledge.

If you want to maximize your chance to win the game (for skill-based games) then it's important that you have knowledge about it. This way, you'll not just place your bet blindly. But you're doing it because you have an idea about the team/players to somehow predict what likely is the outcome of the particular game, and this is based on your knowledge.

That's the edge of betting with an idea of the background of the team. So don't just guess if you can do something to become aware of the possible results based on the capabilities of the players/team.
I believe that the only way to Maximize a game is to start making Sports bets and have a good Impact on the player, and this is measured with a Degree of knowledge and Statistics because if a player who follows a sport that he likes a lot can have quite a few chances of winning on their hits, but in games that are like dice or Roulette that Changes a lot, I have Studied many free courses on poker and poker is a skill-based game, but poker also has his part is lucky, because we do not Choose the cards to win , it is only if he gives them when they are shuffled , and that is already very Lucky.

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May 30, 2023, 07:51:41 AM
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I believe that the only way to Maximize a game is to start making Sports bets and have a good Impact on the player, and this is measured with a Degree of knowledge and Statistics because if a player who follows a sport that he likes a lot can have quite a few chances of winning on their hits, but in games that are like dice or Roulette that Changes a lot, I have Studied many free courses on poker and poker is a skill-based game, but poker also has his part is lucky, because we do not Choose the cards to win , it is only if he gives them when they are shuffled , and that is already very Lucky.

Of course, there is a huge difference in games when you initially have an advantage in your knowledge or skill.  Naturally, the probability of your winning increases.  In this regard, if we consider purely random games, like dice, then the chances of players to win are simply equal in them. 
If we talk about sports betting, then someone who knows a lot in this field of activity always has a significant advantage in their bets.  But a game like poker occupies an intermediate position, since the distribution of cards introduces an element of chance. 
And in such a game it is already very interesting to watch it precisely because of these accidents and the corresponding behavior of the player.  But the player's behavior is already being developed by experience, taking into account his temperament, and in general the level of psychological stability.  That's why it's so interesting to watch the tournaments and the behavior of the players in this game. 
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Of course, there is a huge difference in games when you initially have an advantage in your knowledge or skill.  Naturally, the probability of your winning increases.  In this regard, if we consider purely random games, like dice, then the chances of players to win are simply equal in them.
Even with random game like dice, you will have to choose multiplier when playing and an experienced gamblers will not pick too high multiplier. It is like they make dice to meet wager requirement for wager contests. Experienced gamblers don't need to win big and they only aim at balance when they gamble manually or with dice bot. Chasing too high multipliers and big wins will cause you losses.

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If we talk about sports betting, then someone who knows a lot in this field of activity always has a significant advantage in their bets.  But a game like poker occupies an intermediate position, since the distribution of cards introduces an element of chance. 
Football and team sports are more complicated as results can be changed by a single person and by a single moment. We don't know when those moments occur and sports are harder to control with our bets. Personally I only bet in sports for fun, just to watch a match with more emotion and that's all. I don't hope to get rich with sport betting.

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I do believe that we should be considering the current situation as profitable as it gets, it is not going to end up with anything we want. Tournaments or any other type of thing they do, is as good as they make it to be. It is not about how good the idea is, it's about how good they could execute it, if they do it well then we can say it was a good idea, if they do it terribly then we would say it was terrible.

Let's take one thing for example; sportsbetting, if it was terrible then would we say sportsbetting was a bad idea? No, it wasn't a bad idea, it was just done badly but I think it is good here, not marketed well enough maybe but it is good here, then does it make sportsbetting a good idea, no it still makes it a well executed idea that's it.

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Let's get real here. Waiting until the end of the year to check your betting wins and losses is like waiting until your car runs out of gas to refill it. It's not the best strategy, right? I'm with you, buddy. Monthly check-ins sound like a solid plan. It's like your own personal "profit and loss" statement, and who doesn't love being their own accountant?

And the whole research thing, let's be honest, it's not a guarantee for a win. If it was, we'd all be swimming in pools filled with cash Scrooge McDuck style. Games can be as unpredictable as a cat on catnip. Sometimes, you just gotta roll with the punches.

I don't really agree. What is the benefit of checking your betting wins and losses every month? Will you adjust your pattern based on that? But I guess it also depends on how many bets you place daily/weekly. In my case, it is better to check it at the end of the year what my ROI is, as that is the only information that really matters in the end.



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May 30, 2023, 11:21:49 PM
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Betting then experienced losing in a row is part of it, I mean, losing streak is not new to this industry, you need to do better with your research instead of randomly pick sports that you are not familiar, something that really needed to correct, how will you win if you don't know who's your betting with? with knowledge and with proper information or idea, the chance of winning is much better and adding to that if you have some luck the opportunity to win will be more possible, just take it when you already have some decent amount, I mean quit while you have something decent in your wallet.

Even with doing a proper research, you can still have 10 losses in a times, but it also depends what kind of bets it are (single bets, parlay bets, ...). I don't bet that often anymore on sports, but I try to look for value bets. Sometimes you have good streaks that everything is going your way and other times not. Just keep track of everything that you bet and only at the end of the year, you should look at your return on investment.

Yeah, and that's right even doing proper research can't guarantee that you will not suffer from a long losing streak, if luck is not on your side you might suffer more even you have a knowledge regarding to the game, what I'm just referring to is the game that you are betting with, if you pick it randomly and you don't understand the game the chance of losing is high compared with the game that you know and the player/s that are playing is familiar with you, you can sort the advantages and you can decide according to your knowledge.

If you want to maximize your chance to win the game (for skill-based games) then it's important that you have knowledge about it. This way, you'll not just place your bet blindly. But you're doing it because you have an idea about the team/players to somehow predict what likely is the outcome of the particular game, and this is based on your knowledge.

That's the edge of betting with an idea of the background of the team. So don't just guess if you can do something to become aware of the possible results based on the capabilities of the players/team.
I believe that the only way to Maximize a game is to start making Sports bets and have a good Impact on the player, and this is measured with a Degree of knowledge and Statistics because if a player who follows a sport that he likes a lot can have quite a few chances of winning on their hits, but in games that are like dice or Roulette that Changes a lot, I have Studied many free courses on poker and poker is a skill-based game, but poker also has his part is lucky, because we do not Choose the cards to win , it is only if he gives them when they are shuffled , and that is already very Lucky.


A big difference between luck base games and sport/strategy type of games, with strategy or sport games you'll be able to research and find the good edge before taking your way placing your money from a certain games, while with luck base games, you are just place your money and allow luck to back your patterns and see what will happen after.

Though it's all depends on how the gambler finds their ways to create a strategy that may work or might not, it will all according to how they take and handle the risk.

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I am a BFG holder. I have about 10k+ BFG. A few days ago my mobile turned off automatically. I had google 2FA enabled on my Betfury account. After repairing the mobile, I see that everything has been deleted. I have not recorded my google 2fa private anywhere. Right now I can't access my Betfury account. I tried to contact the team many times but failed. I am currently requesting the team to remove google 2FA from my account. So that I can access my account.

It's worth noting that Google updated its 2fa app in April and added a sync feature. As I understand it, this feature lets users do cloud backups and sync 2fa codes with their Google accounts. Do you have this feature enabled in your app? If so, you'll be able to get access to your codes. Otherwise, you will have to solve this problem only through Betfury support.
By the way, you can also try to write to the Betfury telegram group. Maybe the community managers will be more responsive, and you'll get some kind of response from them.
I really didn't know, but I'm checking my gopogle authenticator and it doesn't give me the option to save it in the cloud through my email, maybe I think I should uninstall and reinstall the app? but I don't dare yet, I prefer to keep saving the QR code to be able to access at any time, however, this type of problem happened to me a long time ago in an exchange, I exposed my entire case, they asked me for KYC with great intensity, I was able to do it and they managed to reset my account and I was able to go back and do everything, from my password to the authenticator, I believe that Betfury in their support can solve that, they have the ability and moral obligation to do so, so that this customer does not get lost, apart from serving him quickly.

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I really didn't know, but I'm checking my gopogle authenticator and it doesn't give me the option to save it in the cloud through my email, maybe I think I should uninstall and reinstall the app? but I don't dare yet, I prefer to keep saving the QR code to be able to access at any time, however, this type of problem happened to me a long time ago in an exchange, I exposed my entire case, they asked me for KYC with great intensity, I was able to do it and they managed to reset my account and I was able to go back and do everything, from my password to the authenticator, I believe that Betfury in their support can solve that, they have the ability and moral obligation to do so, so that this customer does not get lost, apart from serving him quickly.

There should be either a green or gray cloud icon. If you don't see the cloud sync feature in your app, you probably have an older version installed. In any case, it's just an alternative way to back up your codes, and it's not necessary, especially if you feel comfortable using QR codes as a backup.
By the way, what about Betfury? As far as I know, they were planning some kind of mega BFG event in the second quarter, but there is still no news about it on the website.

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June 01, 2023, 10:17:43 PM
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Let's get real here. Waiting until the end of the year to check your betting wins and losses is like waiting until your car runs out of gas to refill it. It's not the best strategy, right? I'm with you, buddy. Monthly check-ins sound like a solid plan. It's like your own personal "profit and loss" statement, and who doesn't love being their own accountant?

And the whole research thing, let's be honest, it's not a guarantee for a win. If it was, we'd all be swimming in pools filled with cash Scrooge McDuck style. Games can be as unpredictable as a cat on catnip. Sometimes, you just gotta roll with the punches.

I don't really agree. What is the benefit of checking your betting wins and losses every month? Will you adjust your pattern based on that? But I guess it also depends on how many bets you place daily/weekly. In my case, it is better to check it at the end of the year what my ROI is, as that is the only information that really matters in the end.

the point is that even if a person checks by year or month or day nothing will change, it is a fact that gambling are not for making profits, so there is no point in looking at those statistics, for example a person who gambles gambling that depend on luck will put what strategy? martigale? will you see the statistics and then will you use martigale? or then will you put another multiplied? and that will change his defeats? I think it won't change anything. what has been happening is that people just need to manage their bankroll well to be able to play for longer while having some luck to win a lot

if the person has 10$ and puts 0.20$ in each section with a decent multiplier and spends hours playing, then that person already knows that he will leave with a loss of all 10$ or he will leave with a big win, he has no strategy in that, he just has that playing is waiting for luck, so it doesn't even make sense after the game to go and see the statistics, this even applies to sports betting that even though it is something that does not depend on luck, in the long term the only winners are the owners of the casinos and the losers are the gamblers

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June 02, 2023, 12:57:06 AM
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the point is that even if a person checks by year or month or day nothing will change, it is a fact that gambling are not for making profits, so there is no point in looking at those statistics, for example a person who gambles gambling that depend on luck will put what strategy? martigale? will you see the statistics and then will you use martigale? or then will you put another multiplied? and that will change his defeats? I think it won't change anything. what has been happening is that people just need to manage their bankroll well to be able to play for longer while having some luck to win a lot

if the person has 10$ and puts 0.20$ in each section with a decent multiplier and spends hours playing, then that person already knows that he will leave with a loss of all 10$ or he will leave with a big win, he has no strategy in that, he just has that playing is waiting for luck, so it doesn't even make sense after the game to go and see the statistics, this even applies to sports betting that even though it is something that does not depend on luck, in the long term the only winners are the owners of the casinos and the losers are the gamblers

You are right that not a lot of people can make a profit out of gambling. When just playing casino games (in house or third party slots) than you just need to rely on luck. For sports betting, you can make a profit if you find value bets, which you can find but you need to look for it. There was a time that I tracked all my sports bets and I ended up with a positive ROI for 2 years in a row (very small profit lol). For me, I won more bets in smaller sports like snooker as I follow that sport pretty closely; I never made a profit when betting on parlays.



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June 02, 2023, 04:21:28 AM
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For me, I won more bets in smaller sports like snooker as I follow that sport pretty closely;

Badminton is my alternative sports betting but it's very difficult to find value odds because in badminton the competition is not like other sports, where unseeded athletes or underdogs teams have a chance to keep winning, while in badminton, seeded players are almost certain to become champions in many tournaments.

I never made a profit when betting on parlays.

This is a problem for almost many bettors, they find it difficult to determine what match will make a parlays bet win, sometimes they think choosing lots of small odds will give them a win but small odds for teams or athletes don't always win, sometimes we think it must be the right match but it turned out the other way around. Often experience this in football and tennis matches, so sometimes it's better to stick with just a single bet and if you want a parlay, only with a small bet value so you don't really feel like you're losing when you lose, at least I've won 1 or 2 times at parlay but the comparison with the losers is very different.

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June 02, 2023, 01:37:02 PM
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that's why it's important to save the secret key when activating 2fa because it's very important when you lose access like this you can log into your account in case this happens you are too careless though 10k BFG is probably big money you think why don't you think about store the secret key somewhere.

But as far as I know the betfury team can help with problems like this, you can wait for an answer from the active team in this thread too, but don't forget to keep in contact with them via their site, I'm not an active gambler at betfury but you can ask the betfury team to disable 2fa in your account, of course, with proof of ownership, if you can't prove it, of course, your account will no longer be accessible. good luck
I have written down the secret keys of almost all accounts that have 2FA in the notebook.I searched a lot but couldn't find anywhere. Betfury account 2FA secret key was not recorded in notebook or kept in messenger account due to my laziness. Currently this 10K BFG is very precious to me and I don't want to lose this BFG in any way. Trying to contact the team. I will definitely let you know if I can solve my problem from here. Thank you for advising me. Hope to get good response from Betfury team very soon.

It is always good to have additional security options, in my case it is enough to have the authenticator, I do not see any other way to have more security, of course there are people who associate their login with email, some other options are done through authenticate with SMS but this does not work well for me personally, because I have had bad experiences, when you leave the country and want to enter there is no way for the SMS to arrive because the telephone companies in my country do not open to other countries or with rooming activated, but there are many Security Layers that can be activated and should be taken advantage of, as long as the activations are saved , be it the QR code and passwords.

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June 03, 2023, 06:08:16 PM
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It is always good to have additional security options, in my case it is enough to have the authenticator, I do not see any other way to have more security, of course there are people who associate their login with email, some other options are done through authenticate with SMS but this does not work well for me personally, because I have had bad experiences, when you leave the country and want to enter there is no way for the SMS to arrive because the telephone companies in my country do not open to other countries or with rooming activated, but there are many Security Layers that can be activated and should be taken advantage of, as long as the activations are saved , be it the QR code and passwords.
I agree, I have my mail, my password, my 2fa, all that is enough. If someone gets over all of that, which would be very very tough to do that, but if they somehow someway do that then get in, they would have to spend so much time and they will find money that is not worth even 1 hour of their life lol, so I think that's even better prevention, not having much in there.

I do not deposit a lot because I know if I do then I am just going to lose it, so I just put in tiny amounts I will gamble until I lose, like lets say 20 bucks and gamble that away first, no need to put 200 right away, just put 20 first, gamble, let it end, then if you still want to continue then you may, but no need to put it all at the same time. Hence I am never worried about any extra security options but of course it's good to have.

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