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[Fivestar4everMVP]

This is incorrect interpretation on why Betfury allow VPN. VPN is use for privacy purposes but that doesn’t mean you are allowed to use to bypass the country restriction to play in the casino. There are many users that use VPN regularly when playing in the casino and other website for privacy. I believe that’s the reason why Betfury allow VPN usage and not to bypass restrictions because they are committing a violation against their license if they allow players from restricted country to play.

But all same, I personally would believe that if using VPN on BetFury is legal, then, there are probably a lot of customers from restricted areas or region who would be using it to access the casino, this is a basic fact.

I won’t argue to this facts. In fact they are using this kind of information as misleading to support their illegal access to the casino. A person in the right mind will now that they are still breaking the law despite casino allow VPN while the player itself is not allowed to gamble due to their country law.

Casino is very strict with this matter since it will cost them their license once proven that they accept players from restricted country especially US citizens.

This is true actually, the casino probably knows that allowing players from restricted region to use or access the casino could cost them their operational license, but the still allow VPN usage on their casino for privacy reasons, which i personally believe is a good thing for the gamblers.
But on the other hand, is there any measure that the casino has put in place to enable them catch users who will be abusing the privilege given to them by the casino allowing users to use VPN? i believe this is the big question after all, because if for this reason, anything happens to the casino that causes it to go offline, the operators of this casino may not be affected as much since i suppose they all have made their money and are all living a very comfortable lives, those who are going to suffer the rot so hard are the innocent players/users who have their funds trapped io the casino, or more miserable will be those who are participating in the fixed staking currently.

Anyways, this is just me thinking out loud, nothing to take serious if actually there is none.

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[beerlover]

First, let me state that based on what I know, Stake does not allow players from restricted countries to access and play on the casino, except the user is using some services, like a paid VPN service to comofladge their actual location, or where exactly they are playing/accessing the casino from.
Atleast, to confirm this, we have had multiple accusations from different users on this forum in the past who complained about being slammed with an all level kyc verification process, and after investigations, we discover that the user was requested to pass all level verification because he or she is gambling from a restricted region by the help of a vpn.

Secondly, a casino can not ban a user for using VPN to access the casino if they did not say anything about that in their terms of service, so if BetFury does have some countries they restricted, and users from that countries are using VPN to still access and play on BetFury, by law, they can not ban does such users with their fund confiscated if they(betfury) didn't warn users against the use of vpn to access the casino in their terms of service or terms and conditions.

You do not have to have a "paid" one to access it, I have been accessing it from a free one (opera) for years, and nothing has happened. I think it's quite important to realize that people who gamble with the help of VPN would be aware that the yare not going to be able to do that without getting caught eventually, and when they do , anything could happen as well.

This is why I never have more than 100 bucks at any given time in stake, it means that I like to get out as soon as I reach that number and I know that they have the right to keep all my money if I do that because it's restricted. It's fine though, it allows me to gamble at one of the best places and it's been close to 4-5 years I suppose and never had a trouble so far.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well along this path of learning about casinos and everything they can do to Improve, I Have never seen leaving bitcointalk traffic be the best option , yes for non-crypto Casinos , fiat casinos Don't matter , because it is something that they have a level of Competition at other levels that are not those of those in Crypto , but to give a boost to a forum that is Satoshi's, where there are very large investors, where they will leave anything for a token They are doing it very well, I think it is not the right way, there is an old saying that they say where I saw it is:  "He who covers a lot, squeezes little" eventually if they got involved with tokens and a market like crypto, Well, they had to have some awareness of what they were getting into, not because of them with the token , but to have the necessary tact Because there were Investors who were there with them Buying their tokens, trusting in what they should be , whether they were Right or Wrong in their situation  casino , that Was not the Correct behavior.

First of all, I have to have a very futuristic vision, if at this Moment I don't have a casino in which I did all that, I am not exempt from doing things well and having everything collapse again, and when I want to emerge, who do I need? ? To the clients, to the players, to the audience, and to everything in the community possible, if they come to Bitcointalk again to do things better, to build on what they did, do you think they will have the highest level of trust that they had in them? No, because obviously how are you going to give it an opportunity when they let a token that looked very promising leave it alone in decentralized exchanges, and not worry about Raising the price or holding contests, or so many things, the advantage they have as a casino is that people trust more than any project they get from an alt, and that is Something that disappoints, for the Investors and players who Believed in the beginning.

Yeah, marketing trough bitcointalk was a good idea. Imho whole token was ingenious way to unite crypto investors and gamblers both wanting to invest into passive income. Both generating volume, because they were interested about the future of the token.

But among some other things they messed up was the plan. As their end game didn't seem to make any sense from the beginning. Casino was generating volume by people grinding and mining the token, but there was no clear plan what would happen next. Circulating supply kept rising and dividends decreasing. Mining for tokens didn't make any sense any more. And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

They had lots of promise and i ignored lots of red flags because of it.

It is a shame that at this point we already suffer from this type of disappointment,  it is quite Hard, difficult for people to understand that this is bread for today and hunger for tomorrow, also those in charge of these casinos are very disappointing People, it can be that maybe they made a lot of money and then let the business fall , because it had Already been filled with money , they will fulfill their mission, but it seems that it is a Simple way for people to do it like this, because this has a lot of Potential and it is something It can be seen clearly, we as good players, traders and investors know very well that these types of things can Happen, the unfortunate thing here is that what he did was a mistake, he disappointed investors, and an entire Community, something that can still be done. fix with their token with strong Marketing , but this is where we realize the degree of No Commitment that they do not have with the community, it is a shame that they throw this overboard, it is a total shame, and I consider that this type of projects have a lot of Future , but not to let it go like this.

Almost always the same problems are the problem of not Wanting to Accept things as they are, so in this order of things, other people who have similar projects will not have the impact or success thanks to the fact that others have already had this type of experience , Well, it is obvious that they no longer want to live it, for that reason we must be very emphatic in everything, the questions of reason and legality with everything that is a good project, that should not be played with, the truth is not I know why they lost their way, and apart from that they all suffer from the same mistake and the mistake that leads them to failure is not putting the token in a centralized casino, they are no longer asked to be Binanance but rather a centralized one, then that is disappointing , for Those who have some knowledge about Investment know that when you put tokens or coins on a centralized Exchange , you Notice more Seriousness.

[avp2306]

Well along this path of learning about casinos and everything they can do to Improve, I Have never seen leaving bitcointalk traffic be the best option , yes for non-crypto Casinos , fiat casinos Don't matter , because it is something that they have a level of Competition at other levels that are not those of those in Crypto , but to give a boost to a forum that is Satoshi's, where there are very large investors, where they will leave anything for a token They are doing it very well, I think it is not the right way, there is an old saying that they say where I saw it is:  "He who covers a lot, squeezes little" eventually if they got involved with tokens and a market like crypto, Well, they had to have some awareness of what they were getting into, not because of them with the token , but to have the necessary tact Because there were Investors who were there with them Buying their tokens, trusting in what they should be , whether they were Right or Wrong in their situation  casino , that Was not the Correct behavior.

First of all, I have to have a very futuristic vision, if at this Moment I don't have a casino in which I did all that, I am not exempt from doing things well and having everything collapse again, and when I want to emerge, who do I need? ? To the clients, to the players, to the audience, and to everything in the community possible, if they come to Bitcointalk again to do things better, to build on what they did, do you think they will have the highest level of trust that they had in them? No, because obviously how are you going to give it an opportunity when they let a token that looked very promising leave it alone in decentralized exchanges, and not worry about Raising the price or holding contests, or so many things, the advantage they have as a casino is that people trust more than any project they get from an alt, and that is Something that disappoints, for the Investors and players who Believed in the beginning.

Yeah, marketing trough bitcointalk was a good idea. Imho whole token was ingenious way to unite crypto investors and gamblers both wanting to invest into passive income. Both generating volume, because they were interested about the future of the token.

But among some other things they messed up was the plan. As their end game didn't seem to make any sense from the beginning. Casino was generating volume by people grinding and mining the token, but there was no clear plan what would happen next. Circulating supply kept rising and dividends decreasing. Mining for tokens didn't make any sense any more. And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

They had lots of promise and i ignored lots of red flags because of it.

It is a shame that at this point we already suffer from this type of disappointment,  it is quite Hard, difficult for people to understand that this is bread for today and hunger for tomorrow, also those in charge of these casinos are very disappointing People, it can be that maybe they made a lot of money and then let the business fall , because it had Already been filled with money , they will fulfill their mission, but it seems that it is a Simple way for people to do it like this, because this has a lot of Potential and it is something It can be seen clearly, we as good players, traders and investors know very well that these types of things can Happen, the unfortunate thing here is that what he did was a mistake, he disappointed investors, and an entire Community, something that can still be done. fix with their token with strong Marketing , but this is where we realize the degree of No Commitment that they do not have with the community, it is a shame that they throw this overboard, it is a total shame, and I consider that this type of projects have a lot of Future , but not to let it go like this.

Almost always the same problems are the problem of not Wanting to Accept things as they are, so in this order of things, other people who have similar projects will not have the impact or success thanks to the fact that others have already had this type of experience , Well, it is obvious that they no longer want to live it, for that reason we must be very emphatic in everything, the questions of reason and legality with everything that is a good project, that should not be played with, the truth is not I know why they lost their way, and apart from that they all suffer from the same mistake and the mistake that leads them to failure is not putting the token in a centralized casino, they are no longer asked to be Binanance but rather a centralized one, then that is disappointing , for Those who have some knowledge about Investment know that when you put tokens or coins on a centralized Exchange , you Notice more Seriousness.

Understand your disappointment with them man and they really failed to meet the expectation of their holders. They always show here that they are not open with the suggestion given by community since there's no development happening here. Also the exchange suggestion should be consider since this is the least they can do to show people about how serious they are dealing with their token but they also failed with this that's why another disappointment came again. And now they can't get any decent volume so for sure this ads up the frustration gotten by many people following their token progress. If they could just able to listen and satisfy people with what they want at first for sure they can make people happy and decide to trust them but they fail on this and for sure frustrations will go more as there's still no action coming from them.

[dwyane36]

P.S. Sometimes it is both hard to believe and looks shocking, when a guy makes a 1.5k purchase and wins 76k worth Bored Ape Yacht club NFT with 0.77% chance to win only. I mean there are lots of less risky games there for a 1.5k single bet.

This guy made six spins, spending ~$9.6k. So, he actually made a huge profit. However, this is a really crazy thing to do because this guy was very lucky to win a $76k NFT for such a small number of spins. I can't imagine what he had in mind, knowing that there is a 77% chance of winning only 777 BFG($13) and only a 0.77% chance of him winning the grand prize. That sounds like just gambling addiction and dumb luck.

[TopTort777]

P.S. Sometimes it is both hard to believe and looks shocking, when a guy makes a 1.5k purchase and wins 76k worth Bored Ape Yacht club NFT with 0.77% chance to win only. I mean there are lots of less risky games there for a 1.5k single bet.

This guy made six spins, spending ~$9.6k. So, he actually made a huge profit. However, this is a really crazy thing to do because this guy was very lucky to win a $76k NFT for such a small number of spins. I can't imagine what he had in mind, knowing that there is a 77% chance of winning only 777 BFG($13) and only a 0.77% chance of him winning the grand prize. That sounds like just gambling addiction and dumb luck.

I'll call it a dumb luck Sometimes it is so hard to believe (and not be envy) when I see a guy placed 1 dollar in limbo and turned it into x8000 multiplier. In limbo, it is not the game when you watch how the rocket flies and hit cashout button, it is the game when from the start you set your cashout at exact multiplier and just launch the rocket. The guy manually set 8000 and caught luck. FFS... How come someone in clear mind think of something like that?

[LUCKMCFLY]

This is incorrect interpretation on why Betfury allow VPN. VPN is use for privacy purposes but that doesn’t mean you are allowed to use to bypass the country restriction to play in the casino. There are many users that use VPN regularly when playing in the casino and other website for privacy. I believe that’s the reason why Betfury allow VPN usage and not to bypass restrictions because they are committing a violation against their license if they allow players from restricted country to play.

But all same, I personally would believe that if using VPN on BetFury is legal, then, there are probably a lot of customers from restricted areas or region who would be using it to access the casino, this is a basic fact.

I won’t argue to this facts. In fact they are using this kind of information as misleading to support their illegal access to the casino. A person in the right mind will now that they are still breaking the law despite casino allow VPN while the player itself is not allowed to gamble due to their country law.

Casino is very strict with this matter since it will cost them their license once proven that they accept players from restricted country especially US citizens.

Well, to tell the truth, I have a very different position, I agree that they want to have more privacy and anonymity, it is a good option, but because things can be interpreted differently, the tools allow us, well, we can use the tool. with everything that comes, something like what they say on my land: "With all the toys", if a VPN offers protection and apart from being Able to have Access from a Country other than your own, it is prohibited, well that is something that already has to do with it and it's up to the casino to accept it, and I really like that, I like that this casino can have those options, although I don't really agree with their policies for tokens and in the market, I think they have a long way to go to accept and develop the best, but they are very good in other aspects, for me it is essential that a caisno manages to accept a VPN with all this, it does not matter, if it is in Another country that is Prohibited, well that is duty can be used for that, and if they accept it, then they assume what that means.

Now, a person who wants to stay in a casino and be given the option of using the VPN to access, seems excellent to me, because I am of the opinion that there should not be bans on any type when it comes to Crypto In fact, bitcoin was created so that governments, banks, third parties would no longer have control, which are the ones that have always controlled everything, so for me this is something that I greatly applaud for this casino and I hope that if so, that they Continue doing it, because I believe that things when it comes to bitcoin and everything about cryptos should no longer have restrictions of countries, races, or any type, only those who want to access, enjoy, have fun is what is required Obviously some money so that the fun is full , that's the Only thing that Should matter, not what governments or conflicts Should dictate for others, maybe I'm too irreverent about these things, but it's true.

[dwyane36]

I'll call it a dumb luck Sometimes it is so hard to believe (and not be envy) when I see a guy placed 1 dollar in limbo and turned it into x8000 multiplier. In limbo, it is not the game when you watch how the rocket flies and hit cashout button, it is the game when from the start you set your cashout at exact multiplier and just launch the rocket. The guy manually set 8000 and caught luck. FFS... How come someone in clear mind think of something like that?

Well, this user was probably hoping to get lucky as well. Unfortunately, this user has hidden his profile, and it is impossible to check how many attempts it took him to get such a huge multiplier in this game. By the way, there is another user who got a x2493 multiplier in limbo and won 49860 doge. Honestly, I am not sure this bet was profitable for him, considering that he has already made about 240k bets in this game using various cryptocurrencies.

[babygun]

P.S. Sometimes it is both hard to believe and looks shocking, when a guy makes a 1.5k purchase and wins 76k worth Bored Ape Yacht club NFT with 0.77% chance to win only. I mean there are lots of less risky games there for a 1.5k single bet.

This guy made six spins, spending ~$9.6k. So, he actually made a huge profit. However, this is a really crazy thing to do because this guy was very lucky to win a $76k NFT for such a small number of spins. I can't imagine what he had in mind, knowing that there is a 77% chance of winning only 777 BFG($13) and only a 0.77% chance of him winning the grand prize. That sounds like just gambling addiction and dumb luck.

I'll call it a dumb luck Sometimes it is so hard to believe (and not be envy) when I see a guy placed 1 dollar in limbo and turned it into x8000 multiplier. In limbo, it is not the game when you watch how the rocket flies and hit cashout button, it is the game when from the start you set your cashout at exact multiplier and just launch the rocket. The guy manually set 8000 and caught luck. FFS... How come someone in clear mind think of something like that?

Lol, probably one of the biggest multipliers I have seen on Limbo and as you say, where is the fun in that? With Crash, you keep watching it and your heart will keep going faster and faster when you go higher and higher, which is not the case with Limbo. Very nice win of course, but as you mention just dumb luck.

[iv4n]

P.S. Sometimes it is both hard to believe and looks shocking, when a guy makes a 1.5k purchase and wins 76k worth Bored Ape Yacht club NFT with 0.77% chance to win only. I mean there are lots of less risky games there for a 1.5k single bet.

This guy made six spins, spending ~$9.6k. So, he actually made a huge profit. However, this is a really crazy thing to do because this guy was very lucky to win a $76k NFT for such a small number of spins. I can't imagine what he had in mind, knowing that there is a 77% chance of winning only 777 BFG($13) and only a 0.77% chance of him winning the grand prize. That sounds like just gambling addiction and dumb luck.

I spent around 20 dollars on Lootboxes, I tried a few different ones, but I didn't have luck to win anything. So buying $1.5k Lootboxes sounds crazy, who knows what he had in mind, but he definitely has a nice bankroll when he can have fun like this one. Anyway, this time he was lucky... luck smiles upon us gamblers from time to time.

In limbo, it is not the game when you watch how the rocket flies and hit cashout button, it is the game when from the start you set your cashout at exact multiplier and just launch the rocket.

Sometimes I prefer to play limbo, watching that rocket fly makes me so uncertain and nervous, to press or not to press cash out... why didn't I press cash out, I should wait a bit more. Crash is one of the craziest games around.

[FanEagle]

P.S. Sometimes it is both hard to believe and looks shocking, when a guy makes a 1.5k purchase and wins 76k worth Bored Ape Yacht club NFT with 0.77% chance to win only. I mean there are lots of less risky games there for a 1.5k single bet.

This guy made six spins, spending ~$9.6k. So, he actually made a huge profit. However, this is a really crazy thing to do because this guy was very lucky to win a $76k NFT for such a small number of spins. I can't imagine what he had in mind, knowing that there is a 77% chance of winning only 777 BFG($13) and only a 0.77% chance of him winning the grand prize. That sounds like just gambling addiction and dumb luck.

I'll call it a dumb luck Sometimes it is so hard to believe (and not be envy) when I see a guy placed 1 dollar in limbo and turned it into x8000 multiplier. In limbo, it is not the game when you watch how the rocket flies and hit cashout button, it is the game when from the start you set your cashout at exact multiplier and just launch the rocket. The guy manually set 8000 and caught luck. FFS... How come someone in clear mind think of something like that?

It's "possible", as people can imagine it is not probable but it is possible and that is why I think it's quite important to realize that we are going to end up seeing a lot better situations on the long run when people realize they can't do the same thing. Unfortunately too many people see those things, envy like you and me, but also start to gamble a lot just to have a chance to have the same result. Considering how unlikely that is, most of them fail, and lose all their money to the casino.

When people think of profitable casino, what are they thinking? I mean where does the revenue come from? It comes from the people who lost money, and that's the important part, I think it should be noted that we can't really have a casino staying as long as it did, and still make profit without gamblers losing. Which means that yeah there are few lucky people, but that doesn't mean that they are going to end up with a profit that easily, it is not going to be good for most of them.

[babygun]

It's "possible", as people can imagine it is not probable but it is possible and that is why I think it's quite important to realize that we are going to end up seeing a lot better situations on the long run when people realize they can't do the same thing. Unfortunately too many people see those things, envy like you and me, but also start to gamble a lot just to have a chance to have the same result. Considering how unlikely that is, most of them fail, and lose all their money to the casino.

When people think of profitable casino, what are they thinking? I mean where does the revenue come from? It comes from the people who lost money, and that's the important part, I think it should be noted that we can't really have a casino staying as long as it did, and still make profit without gamblers losing. Which means that yeah there are few lucky people, but that doesn't mean that they are going to end up with a profit that easily, it is not going to be good for most of them.

Casinos are no charity so they are designed to always make money. You will always have people that get lucky and that is also one of the main attraction points for a casino as with small bet, you can thousands of dollars (or even more). Even with all the events and giveaways that casinos do, they should know what they are doing to avoid making a loss.

[dwyane36]

Casinos are no charity so they are designed to always make money. You will always have people that get lucky and that is also one of the main attraction points for a casino as with small bet, you can thousands of dollars (or even more). Even with all the events and giveaways that casinos do, they should know what they are doing to avoid making a loss.

I think casinos know exactly what to do because they will never hold an event or giveaway if it will bring them a loss. It's also worth noting that if one user is lucky enough to win a big prize, the casino will only be happy about it because it will attract hundreds or even thousands of new users who will try to win the same big prize but will eventually lose because of the house edge.

[ultrloa]

Casinos are no charity so they are designed to always make money. You will always have people that get lucky and that is also one of the main attraction points for a casino as with small bet, you can thousands of dollars (or even more). Even with all the events and giveaways that casinos do, they should know what they are doing to avoid making a loss.

I think casinos know exactly what to do because they will never hold an event or giveaway if it will bring them a loss. It's also worth noting that if one user is lucky enough to win a big prize, the casino will only be happy about it because it will attract hundreds or even thousands of new users who will try to win the same big prize but will eventually lose because of the house edge.

Maybe they consider that scenario and doesn't care much about those people who win huge since they are dealing on a gambling business so they know that there are time they lose to those lucky winner on the contest. Although this is rare to happen but for sure this scenario came to those casinos. Although with such set up all contest is design to get a lot of player so provably with the promotions they release for sure they can earn with it even if there are people winning huge since a lot of losers can cover up the prize and the casino would still get a profit with them. That's the reason why those casino always think about new promotion to release since they know how people think about it and they want to trigger the peoples greed and also those people who want to have fun on their casino.

[piebeyb]

Sometimes I prefer to play limbo, watching that rocket fly makes me so uncertain and nervous, to press or not to press cash out... why didn't I press cash out, I should wait a bit more. Crash is one of the craziest games around.

Personally, Limbo is a fun game. Usually in the Limbo game you can often see other people betting directly, so I feel like I'm not playing alone in the casino. That's what makes me feel like I'm gambling when I feel like there are other people betting there too, not betting alone against a machine. where sometimes I just play alone waiting for luck to come my way and give me lots of money

Limbo and Crash are games that I often play because they are more interesting than games like slots which I rarely touch and try to play. To be honest, I'm not too interested in playing slot games because fighting a machine alone doesn't look as fun for me personally as playing those two games. directly visible people playing together.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Sometimes I prefer to play limbo, watching that rocket fly makes me so uncertain and nervous, to press or not to press cash out... why didn't I press cash out, I should wait a bit more. Crash is one of the craziest games around.

Personally, Limbo is a fun game. Usually in the Limbo game you can often see other people betting directly, so I feel like I'm not playing alone in the casino. That's what makes me feel like I'm gambling when I feel like there are other people betting there too, not betting alone against a machine. where sometimes I just play alone waiting for luck to come my way and give me lots of money

Limbo and Crash are games that I often play because they are more interesting than games like slots which I rarely touch and try to play. To be honest, I'm not too interested in playing slot games because fighting a machine alone doesn't look as fun for me personally as playing those two games. directly visible people playing together.

And what exactly makes you think that playing crash and limbo is not also fighting against a machine?, you and I know that seeing that other gamblers are also betting on the same game mean nothing in real sense, such a feature can be implemented in slot games too if the developers want  .

Frankly speaking, I think what you should have said is that, you personally love playing crash and limbo, and that you have a better access to good luck while playing any of this two games, than you do when playing a slot game.
I myself love playing crash game too, I don't play limbo that much, but the real fact remains that, both games are still you playing against the system, and not against other players as you assumed it to be.

[babygun]

Sometimes I prefer to play limbo, watching that rocket fly makes me so uncertain and nervous, to press or not to press cash out... why didn't I press cash out, I should wait a bit more. Crash is one of the craziest games around.

Personally, Limbo is a fun game. Usually in the Limbo game you can often see other people betting directly, so I feel like I'm not playing alone in the casino. That's what makes me feel like I'm gambling when I feel like there are other people betting there too, not betting alone against a machine. where sometimes I just play alone waiting for luck to come my way and give me lots of money

Limbo and Crash are games that I often play because they are more interesting than games like slots which I rarely touch and try to play. To be honest, I'm not too interested in playing slot games because fighting a machine alone doesn't look as fun for me personally as playing those two games. directly visible people playing together.

You have the same when playing crash and there you can even see when other players cashout. It depends on what time you play, but on any major casino there are always multiple people online. I also the in-house games and besides crash and limbo, I also like Keno. Already had a couple of nice wins on that game.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Casinos are no charity so they are designed to always make money. You will always have people that get lucky and that is also one of the main attraction points for a casino as with small bet, you can thousands of dollars (or even more). Even with all the events and giveaways that casinos do, they should know what they are doing to avoid making a loss.

I think something , Seeing the situation they have in Betfury and that they have many options to do things better, why don't they do it? Here in the forum things are very good , the traffic they have is exceptional, but I couldn't Complete it well, they don't get the Benefit that they should get out of it because obviously things when it comes to doing Everything Better, they run away from it, You have to understand something , this is the forum created by Satosh i, it is a forum that is supremely impressive, all I can say about this is that things can Happen in a very Spectacular way when the best marketing tools are taken Advantage of, and that is why What I say is the traffic, the people who live here in the cold , all this is what we can mention Doing well , for Example the fact that they are going to do advertising and Marketing elsewhere is not bad , it is Super good, but What they are Missing here is pure Quality.

Not to mention what they have done with the Tokens , I would like to know how they handle investors ? How do they offer them something that they invitriero? how can they do it ? If most of the time what we do is be Able to see which is the Strongest Project and how it can Develop, we always think about a project that offers the best, such as what it is and is on a Centralized Exchange , so that? I want it to please all investors , investors invest to make Profits , not to regulate or waste money, I think that all investors have not liked the treatment they have been given in the casino , so Like goes , it is difficult to raise a Price , and not only for large Investors, but for Small Investors , that is something that will always be done , we as players/investors , we have to give Ourselves the Position of Respect and Always follow the Answers outside of a Company and even more so when making an Investment.

[Webetcoins]

I won’t argue to this facts. In fact they are using this kind of information as misleading to support their illegal access to the casino. A person in the right mind will now that they are still breaking the law despite casino allow VPN while the player itself is not allowed to gamble due to their country law.

Casino is very strict with this matter since it will cost them their license once proven that they accept players from restricted country especially US citizens.

This is true actually, the casino probably knows that allowing players from restricted region to use or access the casino could cost them their operational license, but the still allow VPN usage on their casino for privacy reasons, which i personally believe is a good thing for the gamblers.
But on the other hand, is there any measure that the casino has put in place to enable them catch users who will be abusing the privilege given to them by the casino allowing users to use VPN? i believe this is the big question after all, because if for this reason, anything happens to the casino that causes it to go offline, the operators of this casino may not be affected as much since i suppose they all have made their money and are all living a very comfortable lives, those who are going to suffer the rot so hard are the innocent players/users who have their funds trapped io the casino, or more miserable will be those who are participating in the fixed staking currently.

Anyways, this is just me thinking out loud, nothing to take serious if actually there is none.

It does and it doesn't at the same time. Knowingly letting players from restricted areas, or not even putting any ban on those nations would get your license revoked and that would be terrible for a casino.

However, if you ban them, and put a rule, and they will be forced to use VPN just to be able to see your website, you have done all you could, in that case if they still go for a premium VPN and join your website, then you have nothing you can do, for all accounts those people are just from a non-restricted area for you since they are using a VPN to get in, which means that they can't be caught like that. This means that your license would not be revoked, or at least should not be revoked in a case like that, would be easier.

[arwin100]

I won’t argue to this facts. In fact they are using this kind of information as misleading to support their illegal access to the casino. A person in the right mind will now that they are still breaking the law despite casino allow VPN while the player itself is not allowed to gamble due to their country law.

Casino is very strict with this matter since it will cost them their license once proven that they accept players from restricted country especially US citizens.

This is true actually, the casino probably knows that allowing players from restricted region to use or access the casino could cost them their operational license, but the still allow VPN usage on their casino for privacy reasons, which i personally believe is a good thing for the gamblers.
But on the other hand, is there any measure that the casino has put in place to enable them catch users who will be abusing the privilege given to them by the casino allowing users to use VPN? i believe this is the big question after all, because if for this reason, anything happens to the casino that causes it to go offline, the operators of this casino may not be affected as much since i suppose they all have made their money and are all living a very comfortable lives, those who are going to suffer the rot so hard are the innocent players/users who have their funds trapped io the casino, or more miserable will be those who are participating in the fixed staking currently.

Anyways, this is just me thinking out loud, nothing to take serious if actually there is none.

It does and it doesn't at the same time. Knowingly letting players from restricted areas, or not even putting any ban on those nations would get your license revoked and that would be terrible for a casino.

However, if you ban them, and put a rule, and they will be forced to use VPN just to be able to see your website, you have done all you could, in that case if they still go for a premium VPN and join your website, then you have nothing you can do, for all accounts those people are just from a non-restricted area for you since they are using a VPN to get in, which means that they can't be caught like that. This means that your license would not be revoked, or at least should not be revoked in a case like that, would be easier.

This is what they should look at and put some restriction towards usage of VPN on restricted country since it will be more harder for them if their license will get revoked since its like they operating illegally if this happen and they continue to operate without any license acquired. So much better to be strict so that they can still present a document and still be legal to the community since nothing will good to happen with this casino if they choose those people using VPN in restricted country and their license got revoked due to that reason. They should focus on allowed market since for sure they can still get a lot of gambler if they can satisfy people thru some of contest or even other marketing method introduce to people.