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Quote from: Community Awards 2023 [Vote] Discussion in [Rom][Ger][Por][Ita]Bitcointalk Quiz [Live] Last year's [Results] 🥇


     For information

Participants compete with two more competitors, “Don’t know” (if you do not know the user who can claim the title) and “Nobody is worthy” (if, in your opinion, no one is worthy to be a representative of the Bitcointalk Awards nominations). If the “Don't know” and “Nobody deserves” candidates win, the title will not be awarded to any of the nominated candidates, therefore please take this vote with full responsibility.

     Pre-election campaign

Controversial agitation is welcome, but can only concern the results of the nominee's activities at the forum, and not the personality or personal quality of the nominee himself. You can say that the posts of the nominee are contrary to common sense, but you cannot say that he is stupid.

 ➥ There will be 27 winners this year!
 ➥ From the moment of publication, and for 60 days, public voting will be open, in which any active user can take part.
 ➥ No merit sending is allowed from nominees to users which nominated them & Votes cast for inactive users will not count

Ladies and gentlemen,

For this year's event we decided again to take into account the feedback received from various users, at the previous events, and apply some fine-tuning to the existent rules. Additionally there will also be some new rules. All these will -- we hope -- bring even more accurate results!

Therefore, the following rules will apply for Bitcointalk Community Awards event 2023 edition:

1. Votes for inactive users will not be taken into consideration anymore. The event is related to the activity made by users during current year and not for the past. As a consequence, votes for users like Satoshi, Lauda etc. (with all due respect for all good things they did in the past) will not be counted. Of course, this does not mean that a user's vote will be entirely not counted, if he nominates an inactive user. Only the vote for the inactive user is not counted.

As a sum-up: if a user makes nominations of both active users and inactive ones, only the mentions of inactive ones will be not counted (in the contest's final results there will be no Satoshi, no Lauda etc.).

2. No merit sending is allowed from nominees to users which nominated them. This should improve dramatically the accuracy of results and offenders will have to support a penalty. For each merit sent, 1 vote is deducted. So for example, if in the voting topic Alice sent 5 merits to those who nominated her in any category, then we will not count these votes (but the rest of the votes that are addressed to other nominees will be taken into account). In addition, if a user voted for Alice in two categories, then the votes for each of the categories will be unaccounted for.

3. You must have 50 earned merits to voteNote.

4. Copy-pasted votes will not be counted and they'll be reported for plagiarism. This rule was added after some incidents from the past, which led to having a particular user reported for plagiarism.

Other changes:

Prizes were decided based on community feedback.

Please make sure you express the nominations in a coherent manner. Here I'm mostly talking about votes for Event / Fail of the year categories. It's difficult to understand what someone means if nominations have a form like this: "FAILED TO EARN AND HOLD 1btc", "Situación Actual", "Cancel Culture on social media", "Some exchanges are at war", "Get Your Funds Out of Exchange", "BUY THE DIP AND HODL". (For more information about these examples please check this post.) Besides, please make the difference between what an event is and what a fail is. In the past, some posted same nomination at both categories which is not correct.

Mister BitcoinTalk category was not added, as it would mean to have fillippone winner all the time (on all three places  Cheesy)

Remember, the contest is about having fun, not a duel for seeing who's da baws Smiley Therefore, we are encouraging you all to act honest -- in the end, this is what brings the joy of participation, right?

From this point forward, the official announcement of the contest will be made VERY soon!

Cheers to all Smiley

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September 23, 2020, 10:46:41 PM
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Quote from: Mr.X: A mock-up of what the future prizes might have been if Theymos had intervened.  Cool


Rewards:
Community Awards will be held under the auspices of the forum and the prizes are directly dependent on community voting. The Administration has kindly agreed to assign the winners Custom Title, to express gratitude to those who have made an exceptional contribution to the development of the crypto community.

The "Merit Prize fund" is a kind of addition to the "Custom Titles" and is intended to award the I, II and III place winners.

Custom Title cannot be chosen at will, it can only be earned by public recognition.
Awarded to winners for an indefinite period of time, displaying the year of distinction.
These abilities are subject to moderation, and can be taken away for any reason.
It is not guaranteed that you will be able to wear the title forever, as software changes may make this feature impractical.

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September 23, 2020, 11:34:39 PM
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It can be fun by the way, also reminds me April Fools' Day on bitcointalk when everyone gets some unique surprise. It's a good idea for having extra fun but at the same time will turn somebody's brain to think who deserves what among so many members.
Btw what happens if someone doesn't want to wear that Crypto Community Award? Or doesn't want to be even nominated?

But the main problem right now is if theymos implememt the idea here? Or pray o. new forum for new features? He may do this on April Fools' Day, both of it.

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September 23, 2020, 11:48:16 PM
Last edit: January 24, 2022, 09:55:08 PM by icopress
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Who will be the judge and jury for every active member description?
This can create some fuss in the forum and that is not necessarily bad, but I think there will be clash of opinions.
There is a topic created by GazetaBitcoin called Gangs of Bitcointalk that can help maybe:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226757.0

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There is already a thread?
Are you suggesting the thread in which Vod is quoted?
That post from Vod should have a clickable link, by the way.. just to make it easy to reference and to verify context.
No, I thought about it a year ago, it was just that Vod pushed me into action. His thread was personal, I'm talking about an event that will be held once a year (something like April 1st, when the whole forum comes to life, only the Crypto Community Award will last a little longer), as well as how to really implement Vod's idea.

P.S. Its thread is blocked, so I was unable to insert the clickable link. (I would appreciate it if you could explain how to quote posts in locked threads.

I thought that V8 had already cited such thread in his below post, and he just copied and pasted the address in the address bar and quoted that.

meh. turns out no one said that in the fucking thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276092.0

By the way, several of us made some comments in the WO thread about this topic, including my own comments.

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Last edit: January 24, 2022, 09:54:26 PM by icopress
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By the way, several of us made some comments in the WO thread about this topic, including my own comments.
I Added in post #12, the rest of the text related to this topic.

Who will be the judge and jury for every active member description?
This can create some fuss in the forum and that is not necessarily bad, but I think there will be clash of opinions.
There is a topic created by GazetaBitcoin called Gangs of Bitcointalk that can help maybe:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226757.0
Thanks, about gangs... is just a cult thread. After users have been nominated for each category, public voting begins. The counting of votes can be made absolutely transparent, the results of which will also show who took the second and third places.

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What voting system will be used? Can we please not use first-past-the-post just because it's "simpler"? It's objectively the worst voting system of all time. Sad

I would like to compete for the title 'Shameless grandstanding whore'.
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There is a topic created by GazetaBitcoin called Gangs of Bitcointalk that can help maybe:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226757.0

While it is an honor for me to see my masterpiece mentioned here, I don't know how OP could use my topics though...

P.S. Its thread is blocked, so I was unable to insert the clickable link. (I would appreciate it if you could explain how to quote posts in locked threads.

If you want to quote lock topics, you can follow the information from this topic: A guide to quoting posts in locked topics. You can use the first way described there, the second way, or a mixed way. I found a third way which implies combining the first two methods. However, it's not difficult. If you still can't manage, let me know and I'll try to explain with more detail Smiley

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Will this idea go viral, or will there be a lock down?

I put myself forward as the intolerant anti-vaxer of the year. ( and I'm not masking it. ).

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Moved: Post Archive # 1, 2


I hope our bitcoin hangout helps me with one question. I am writing a guide for a event related to the bitcointalk community (the idea of ​​the annual Crypto Community Award), which will include 20 nominations with the possibility of voting.


Do you think your community is amazing? Is there a community hero in the section where you chat? Why not nominate them for one of these new Bitcointalk Community Awards…

For example: Antihero (A contender for maximum hostility from members of the forum) or / Scandal of the year / Event of the year / and so on. When I finish, I will be happy to discuss possible additions and will not refuse help with moderating the Crypto Award. In the meantime, I want to know your opinion on this idea.

Quote from: Vod
I would like a title that recognizes my contribution as being worth more than giving stolen coins to others (apologies to the honest donators who don't go around calling attention to their donation).  I think a good title would be Inventor.  Short, simple - I didn't give financial value a time the forum needed it, but I gave other value - the same kind the forum itself does to a community.  So I will lock this topic and hopefully wake up one day with a custom title.  Smiley
After the announcement of the results, it would not be difficult for theymos to add the winners their well-deserved Custom Titles: (Moderator of the Year, Antihero, Guru, Crypto Maniac, etc.).

Vod would be happy to get a headline describing his contribution or, for example, the Vod/OG scandal of the year. Perhaps Lauda will become an anti-hero due to thousands of feedback messages, and The Pharmacist will be a Bitcointalk guru.


Uh yeah....I'm the furthest thing from a bitcoin guru that you could possibly find, so I don't know how my name got thrown into the mix.  Even if you put my name in for a vote, it would be a waste of your keyboard strokes--so don't bother.
I just gave an example ... since people abstract from those they know. As for your persona for this title .. It's not about the selection of nominees by one person, be it the OP or the moderator. I guess the user should be nominated by at least 3-5 people.

There will be several threads interconnected, for example (Threads for discussing and nominating nominees, a thread for voting and publishing results ... in a word, there will be a solid infrastructure for this event).

I suggest instant-runoff voting, and not just because I'm Australian and therefore intimately familiar with it. Also, voting power proportional to sMerit isn't likely to work very well; for one thing, it's impossible to calculate sMerit for merit sources.
In general, yes, this voting method will be the most appropriate (excluding the votes of the Newbie, Jr. Member, Member).
Maybe I missed something, but how can voters with the current interface vote for multiple candidates?

Also we're not talking about submitting sMerit, we're talking about counting the merit of each user who voted.
For example, LoyceV votes for position A “6975/10”, and you and I vote for position B “2019 + 68/10”
(thus, A is ahead of B by 488 points).

Aside the fact that most awards are based on opinion or perspective, i wouldn't add title for negative things (such as best antihero/troll) since it'll create more drama and boost their ego. Maybe we can borrow algorithm score for bumping (obvious there's major advantage for some member)
Or are you talking about antipathy on the part of very active members of the forum towards certain individuals?
Yes, but also antipathy of any individual/group towards certain individuals/group (could be race, rank, nationality etc.)
There will be no dramatic events during the event, as a self-moderated thread will be created in which users will nominate candidates only by template. Could you tell us more about the algorithm?

What about a prize for the most illiterate user? I'd propose hacker1001101001 and andulolika. There would be a great battle between them, but I'd bet on andulolika for winning this prize.
Also: what about a prize for the lamest Otoman? The list is big here, but best nominees would be DragonDance, wolvoo, mhanbostanci, BitcoinTurk, Cean, Vispilio, Blacknavy, gumusi or miyav.
I would not want to waste time on spammers and trolls. But for special occasions, the "Disappointment of the Year" nomination can be added, although it is likely that Craig Wright will receive it.  Grin

How are you defining "very active"?  I know traffic is way down as of late, but that number somehow seems low.  I would bet that the number of active old-time members, or those with a reputation that makes them "known" is less than 1000, but I can't imagine that figure includes members like bounty hunters, for example.  They're extremely active on the forum, though 99.99% of them are unknown, unknowable, and probably have more alts than members of their family.
You can just look at the statistics on merit. Bounty hunters ... Man, seriously? There is no question of them, as I said, we just will not take into account the three junior ranks. They will be barred from nominating other candidates and their votes will not be counted.

Although I like your main idea [annual awards], I think we should tweak it a little bit by giving "possible" rewards to those with awards in a way that it doesn't depend on theymos's actions.
- It should be something that "we" as a community would give to these members and not theymos (hence the title, community awards).
Even though theymos rarely comments [in general], I'm pretty sure he has a perfect idea of who are the deserving users for a custom title of some sort and based on how selective he is when it comes to giving those, I think it'll have a little impact on his decisions.
That's right, the essence of the event can be conveyed in one sentence "Annual competition with various nominations". And theymos's role is only to mark (sub-rank) the winners of the annual competition, the winners are chosen by the community, not the administration.

Or you could just create a separate thread for users to post their votes, as was done here. Why make things more complicated than they need to be?

└── The main thread is designed to describe the entire process and nominate candidates according to the template, (Including navigation through voting threads).

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1. Moderator of the Year .......... Username
2. Cryptomaniac ................... Username
3. Ninja .......................... Username
4. And others ..................... Username

 After that, all applications that did not receive enough support will be discarded (A candidate is considered nominated if he received support from 3-5 users).

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I think custom titles would be cool for those who deserve one. If you want me to be honest, I don’t think theymos will grant too many people titles (if any at all).
Great, I just wanted some feedback. That's what I'm talking about, people will decide for themselves who is worthy.

Seems to me that you should start a thread (or threads) on this topic in order to attempt to get feedback, and also to gauge how popular your topic is in order to stand alone and/or to get members to participate in the thread.  Furthermore, you can surely link such thread(s), once you create it (them) in threads like this, in order to inform members of the existence of such thread(s).

Seems to me that just the creation of various titles (even if temporary) might end up being controversial.. unless those titles were voted on with a broader swath and the participation of "somewhat established" forum members.. so maybe you would need either a poll within your topic or separate threads for different titles that would be considered (or nominated).  

Anyhow, point is that titles tend to be controversial, and likely you would need to have a pretty open process, and I doubt that theymos is even going to get involved in endorsing such titles unless you either get him to agree in advance or you have some kind of overwhelming participation of "somewhat established" forum members that cause theymos to want to endorse such system once you have already established it.

There is already a thread?
Are you suggesting the thread in which Vod is quoted?
That post from Vod should have a clickable link, by the way.. just to make it easy to reference and to verify context.
No, I thought about it a year ago, it was just that Vod pushed me into action. His thread was personal, I'm talking about an event that will be held once a year (something like April 1st, when the whole forum comes to life, only the Crypto Community Awards will last a little longer), as well as how to really implement Vod's idea.

P.S. Its thread is blocked, so I was unable to insert the clickable link. (I would appreciate it if you could explain how to quote posts in locked threads.




It can be fun by the way, also reminds me April Fools' Day on bitcointalk when everyone gets some unique surprise. It's a good idea for having extra fun but at the same time will turn somebody's brain to think who deserves what among so many members.
Btw what happens if someone doesn't want to wear that Crypto Community Award? Or doesn't want to be even nominated?

But the main problem right now is if theymos implememt the idea here? Or pray o. new forum for new features? He may do this on April Fools' Day, both of it.
There are no more than 1000 very active users. You can nominate others and not yourself, this is the principle of all such awards. The "Award" depends on the forum community, not on the administration, (theymos can only implement the signatures - this will be possible only if everything goes smoothly with the "Award" and this idea is supported by authoritative users, moderators and theymos personally).

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In order to exclude the participation of alts, the lower three ranks can be neglected in the counting of votes. Or for each item we can calculate the number of sMerits of users who voted / 10.

If you have any suggestions for a voting system, I would love to hear them.
I suggest instant-runoff voting, and not just because I'm Australian and therefore intimately familiar with it. Also, voting power proportional to sMerit isn't likely to work very well; for one thing, it's impossible to calculate sMerit for merit sources.

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Thepharmacist = bitcointalkguru

Thanks for making me smile you ass munching muppet.

Nobody cares about these silly titles except the very most pathetic losers here.

These "votes" are stupid. They will vote the worst troll is the member who challenged the entire forum time and time again to present just 1 example of what the forum defines as trolling and they all fail.

How can anyone take any of these votes seriously.

Just your bitcointalkguru suggestion is all the proof one would need that you're an imbecile or off your meds again. 

Bitcointalks investment wizard = thepharmacist? Vod? Nutildah? Which other nominees you have in mind?

Hmm well pharmacist lives in a cardboard box under the freeway when he has a good month
Nutildah was shipped off to the 3rd world where he is now just an untouchable underclass peasant  not bad for a nem stake holder and early dash adopter hey?
Vod surviving just on welfare cheques having been here since 2011

The crypto guru and investment wizard awards for TP could be split between him and Hugeblackwoman if need be I guess. That would work. Where do we vote?

What about bitcointalk ladies hottest physique award? I have someone in mind.



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What about bitcointalk ladies hottest physique award? I have someone in mind.
Oh, so you haven't forgotten me, after all. Tongue

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Or are you talking about antipathy on the part of very active members of the forum towards certain individuals?

Yes, but also antipathy of any individual/group towards certain individuals/group (could be race, rank, nationality etc.)

What about a prize for the most illiterate user? I'd propose hacker1001101001 and andulolika. There would be a great battle between them, but I'd bet on andulolika for winning this prize.

Also: what about a prize for the lamest Otoman? The list is big here, but best nominees would be DragonDance, wolvoo, mhanbostanci, BitcoinTurk, Cean, Vispilio, Blacknavy, gumusi or miyav.

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There are no more than 1000 very active users.
How are you defining "very active"?  I know traffic is way down as of late, but that number somehow seems low.  I would bet that the number of active old-time members, or those with a reputation that makes them "known" is less than 1000, but I can't imagine that figure includes members like bounty hunters, for example.  They're extremely active on the forum, though 99.99% of them are unknown, unknowable, and probably have more alts than members of their family.

As I said in the WO thread where you first posted this, I'm not against titles for certain members like you proposed.  I'm just not sure Theymos would be willing to get behind an idea like this.  When was the last time he did something like this?  For that art contest a while back?  

I would also suggest that only a small handful of members deserve a special title, and they should be very well known, probably very active (with the exception of Satoshi perhaps), and have been a member of the forum for at least one or two years.  You may end up giving a title to someone who stops posting, and so I think it's important that a nominated member have a proven track record of being dedicated to the forum--and that takes time.  Members like Vod, TECSHARE, Quickseller, OgNasty, and some others have been here a long time and would be some names I'd be thinking about.

What about bitcointalk ladies hottest physique award? I have someone in mind.
Oh, so you haven't forgotten me, after all. Tongue
Holy shit, Foxxy--I just checked your profile and never realized that you've been here since 2012.  You definitely qualify for the old-school bitcointalker list.  Sexiest?  I'd check you off on the ballot box for that. 

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Foxpup has been a longer member than I've been? Damn. Did not expect/know that.

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Holy shit, Foxxy--I just checked your profile and never realized that you've been here since 2012.  You definitely qualify for the old-school bitcointalker list.  Sexiest?  I'd check you off on the ballot box for that. 
My username tends to throw a lot of people off. It definitely hasn't aged as well the rest of me. Grin

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Although I like your main idea [annual awards], I think we should tweak it a little bit by giving "possible" rewards to those with awards in a way that it doesn't depend on theymos's actions.
- It should be something that "we" as a community would give to these members and not theymos (hence the title, community awards).

After the announcement of the results, it would not be difficult for theymos to add the winners their well-deserved titles, for example (Moderator of the Year, Antihero, Guru, etc.).
Even though theymos rarely comments [in general], I'm pretty sure he has a perfect idea of who are the deserving users for a custom title of some sort and based on how selective he is when it comes to giving those, I think it'll have a little impact on his decisions.

Who knows, maybe we need a little drama.
I'm with ETFbitcoin on this one. We certainly don't need more drama [even a tiny one]. That's only for those that are either quite young [both in real life and mentally] or an attention whore of some sort.
- We shouldn't indirectly promote or give importance to such things by having a spotlight on them.
- New members will always learn and follow what they see around and that's something they shouldn't see in the first place.

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What about bitcointalk ladies hottest physique award? I have someone in mind.
Oh, so you haven't forgotten me, after all. Tongue

The tail swishing gif may have been on my mind from time to time.
However, unbelievably , I had another fuller figured beauty in mind for the top award. ( not a post OP vod either...although...)
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