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[tranthidung]

Yes the centralized platform will still ask you to KYC at some point even though some still don't KYC now, we know casino regulations are now strict so one day KYC will become mandatory.

In the past how exchanges did not implement KYC but now almost all exchanges implement it, so my own thinking is that gambling will also be the same in the future so to maintain privacy will be difficult later.

But now just live what we do in the casino, the fact is there are still many casinos that tolerate users who do not do KYC but are still free to play so I still enjoy this now.

Casinos and exchanges (centralized platforms) are the same.

They will not do KYC if they are not scam and abuse KYC card to steal user money.
They will not do KYC if they are not forced to do this by existing regulations in countries where they have their business licenses.

As users, we can not avoid KYC if they add KYC to their Terms of Service, AML procedure. So we have to avoid to store big money on any platform if we know about this risk and don't want to KYC.

Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts

KYC is not a bad term from a platform if they do it because of national, regional regulation but to avoid unwanted troubles, don't store all or big fund on any centralized platform is a golden rule for yourself.

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[dansus021]

Yes the centralized platform will still ask you to KYC at some point even though some still don't KYC now, we know casino regulations are now strict so one day KYC will become mandatory.

In the past how exchanges did not implement KYC but now almost all exchanges implement it, so my own thinking is that gambling will also be the same in the future so to maintain privacy will be difficult later.

But now just live what we do in the casino, the fact is there are still many casinos that tolerate users who do not do KYC but are still free to play so I still enjoy this now.

Remember this is my own assumption how casinos in the future will require your identity.

Yes this is very true all centralized things are sooner or later gonna implement KYC back then Only a few CEX implemented KYC but now there is so much and almost all Centralized Exchanges are mandatory to do KYC.

Because crypto now is super popular and highly regulated in some countries Casinos or Exchange that are related to crypto would be asked by the government to do KYC for one or two reasons like anti money laundry services

[Sanitough]

Yes the centralized platform will still ask you to KYC at some point even though some still don't KYC now, we know casino regulations are now strict so one day KYC will become mandatory.

In the past how exchanges did not implement KYC but now almost all exchanges implement it, so my own thinking is that gambling will also be the same in the future so to maintain privacy will be difficult later.

But now just live what we do in the casino, the fact is there are still many casinos that tolerate users who do not do KYC but are still free to play so I still enjoy this now.

Casinos and exchanges (centralized platforms) are the same.

They will not do KYC if they are not scam and abuse KYC card to steal user money.
They will not do KYC if they are not forced to do this by existing regulations in countries where they have their business licenses.

As users, we can not avoid KYC if they add KYC to their Terms of Service, AML procedure. So we have to avoid to store big money on any platform if we know about this risk and don't want to KYC.

Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts

KYC is not a bad term from a platform if they do it because of national, regional regulation but to avoid unwanted troubles, don't store all or big fund on any centralized platform is a golden rule for yourself.

Okay, so we will not store big funds in a casino if we are not complying to the KYC yet. But, what if the situation happened that we are too lucky and we won a huge amount of money, like $10,000 in a casino and our account are not KYC verified? What do you think will happen? Can we claim it? How?

KYC = Law.  That's it, if a casino is not govern by law, they should not impose KYC.

[tranthidung]

Okay, so we will not store big funds in a casino if we are not complying to the KYC yet. But, what if the situation happened that we are too lucky and we won a huge amount of money, like $10,000 in a casino and our account are not KYC verified? What do you think will happen? Can we claim it? How?

KYC = Law.  That's it, if a casino is not govern by law, they should not impose KYC.

It is what we know. Casinos usually have their ToS to force users to do KYC if a user want to withdraw huge valued fund. You win big, ok, finish KYC and withdraw your money.

I read some cases like this and personally, if I choose a trusted casino to play on, I trust them at beginning, so if I win big, I will not hesitate to submit KYC and withdraw my money.

Problems are from new and small casinos with unknown reputation but it raises a question, why I choose a brand new casino to play on then feel fearful to lose money and my identity documents?

[Solosanz]

The only reason that's make sense to use VPN is the local ISP block the casino, in order to make sure they're not from restricted countries is ask to verify their account. But this can be solved if the casino has several mirror sites, unfortunately Duelbits currently not have it.

Yes this is very true all centralized things are sooner or later gonna implement KYC back then Only a few CEX implemented KYC but now there is so much and almost all Centralized Exchanges are mandatory to do KYC.

Yep, Kucoin, Bybit and OKX already ask KYC. A decent CEX that didn't force to submit KYC is only MEXC right now.

[aylabadia05]

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The mentioned situation is good reason why VPN has been discourage to use since there are people take advantage on situation by using that tool. But there are ways for casino to detect multi accounting that's why they are now open for usage of VPN  as long as the user is not using this for bypassing banned region on their casino which has been discussed for multiple times. I myself like to use VPN on some cases since it make us safe especially if we are in public areas. But much better if we not use it if there's no threat or anything that can bother us since maybe a casino will be trigger to verify if we are the real user of the account if there are always changes on IP or anything that can they think suspicious happening on our account.

Players who use VPN to cheat casinos, for casinos it is not difficult to find users who abuse casinos. Our concern for players who use VPNs for certain reasons is justified although not all players have the intention to do so in the negative opinion we are talking about.

Rather than using a VPN to avoid being published when in a public area, I am more interested in using TOR.

[Lucasgabd]

which insights? can you share a little bit more?

tracking is essential so we can learn with our mistakes and our right decisions, as well as to have a clear picture of where you are now.
when you track you only keep notes on amount of the bet and odds or you track something else like how you felt that day, what was your process to decide, so forth and so on?

So I kept track of all my sport bets that I placed. I would place single bets, parlays of 2-5 bets combined, various sports…After keeping track I found that I should not bet on certain sports (mainly basketball) and that placing single bets was the most profitable for me in the long end. So I rarely make any more parlays and try to find value single bets with odds of 1.6 or higher.

I always see a lot of people betting on multiples, especially the more experienced bettors, or those with a larger bankroll
I realized that it depends a lot on the type of sport or championship you're betting on

For example, most of my bets are single bets, betting on a win or a draw, simple like that
But in the Portuguese championship I found a great opportunity to place multiple bets, I've managed to win quite a few bets, so in this case, the multiple works well

Sometimes I bet on the number of goals, but it depends a lot on the type of match and the teams involved

Tracking your bets is an excellent way to maximize your profits and see where you are losing to avoid more mistakes

that's nice to hear @babygun thanks for sharing
do you use any software or technique to analyse the data or simply excel/spreadsheets?


multiple bets is a strategy that work for some but I find it much harder because you need more precision and higher win rate to be able to profit with it

number of goals is usually an easier one to get right, nice rdluffy

[Fivestar4everMVP]

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The mentioned situation is good reason why VPN has been discourage to use since there are people take advantage on situation by using that tool. But there are ways for casino to detect multi accounting that's why they are now open for usage of VPN  as long as the user is not using this for bypassing banned region on their casino which has been discussed for multiple times. I myself like to use VPN on some cases since it make us safe especially if we are in public areas. But much better if we not use it if there's no threat or anything that can bother us since maybe a casino will be trigger to verify if we are the real user of the account if there are always changes on IP or anything that can they think suspicious happening on our account.

Players who use VPN to cheat casinos, for casinos it is not difficult to find users who abuse casinos. Our concern for players who use VPNs for certain reasons is justified although not all players have the intention to do so in the negative opinion we are talking about.

Rather than using a VPN to avoid being published when in a public area, I am more interested in using TOR.

Well, when it comes to people doing all they know they can to preverse their online privacy, I think many people are already used to VPN, coupled with the fact that not very many people actually know about Tor.
For example, myself have known VPN I think for ages, but never heard of Tor or knew what it meant or was meant for, until 2017 when I become an established user on this forum, and as it was for me back then, it could as well be same for some people out there, Tor is actually one privacy browser, or should I call it a network, that only those who are balls deep into the internet knows about.

VPN also is still a good choice, but like I Will always say, only the paid ones are actually good enough to use for accessing online gambling casinos, since the paid ones always provide a dedicated IP address for the user, much better than the free once where more than 100 persons can be accessing or surfing the web under one same IP address, which is completely not good when we talk about the safety of users accounts

[ajiz138]

Because crypto now is super popular and highly regulated in some countries Casinos or Exchange that are related to crypto would be asked by the government to do KYC for one or two reasons like anti money laundry services

Casinos now have a license so it will be regulated by a country, for example if you play at a casino that is not licensed, do you want to play there? Of course not! because we want to play at a legal and regulated casino.
Now there are rules in the TOS maybe almost all casinos have anti-money laundering in their casinos if this happens and is allowed by the casino then the regulation will sue or stop the service from operating, so one of the prevention of money laundering with AML / KYC.

[Taskford]

Because crypto now is super popular and highly regulated in some countries Casinos or Exchange that are related to crypto would be asked by the government to do KYC for one or two reasons like anti money laundry services

Casinos now have a license so it will be regulated by a country, for example if you play at a casino that is not licensed, do you want to play there? Of course not! because we want to play at a legal and regulated casino.
Now there are rules in the TOS maybe almost all casinos have anti-money laundering in their casinos if this happens and is allowed by the casino then the regulation will sue or stop the service from operating, so one of the prevention of money laundering with AML / KYC.

There are few individual choose to select those unregulated casino since their main issue is KYC and they can't trust yet the service of those regulated casino. But for sure once they realize how risky it is to gamble on a casino that has not been regulated since any time the owners could shutdown their service without people knowing for sure they are the one who decide to come with those regulated ones then select the most reputable among them all. Since its really stressful to gamble on something we are not sure and confident that our funds is safe at all times.  We can expect that KYC became a normal requirement on each casino since maybe this how they comply on AML policies.

[tranthidung]

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[Betwrong]

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Restrictions can come from the gambling site itself or from the game providers. Generally, a gambling site has its own global restricted areas and it means all games on that gambling site will not be available for their restricted area list. After that, there are extra restrictions from game providers and a person who lives in a specific nation is allowed to play game A and other many games from a game provider X, but is not allowed to play games B and some other games from a game provider Y.

It's remarkable that despite so many restrictions many millions of people still find a way to gamble online when they want. I think maybe it's because people need it. To play those games, I mean. Not to make money with them, of course, but to relax from stressful life. People need it and that's why restrictions must be removed, in civilized world at least.


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[tranthidung]

It's remarkable that despite so many restrictions many millions of people still find a way to gamble online when they want. I think maybe it's because people need it.

People always find ways to break any wall, restriction if they want and there are always holes to surpass restrictions. It is like fight between a platform and user, citizen and government, I believe this is a fair comparison.

To play those games, I mean. Not to make money with them, of course, but to relax from stressful life. People need it and that's why restrictions must be removed, in civilized world at least.

I don't think it is completely like you said. People, when it comes to gambling, will want to achieve both, fun, relax and winning to gain money. If they don't want to chase money, can not afford to lose money, they can simply play off-line games or even online games for free and don't come to online casinos and spend money for betting.

[pawanjain]

To play those games, I mean. Not to make money with them, of course, but to relax from stressful life. People need it and that's why restrictions must be removed, in civilized world at least.

I don't think it is completely like you said. People, when it comes to gambling, will want to achieve both, fun, relax and winning to gain money. If they don't want to chase money, can not afford to lose money, they can simply play off-line games or even online games for free and don't come to online casinos and spend money for betting.

That is definitely true when we think from that perspective. Most gamers prefer to play offline games but that's the difference between gaming offline and gambling.
Even I play for fun most of the times but when money is involved we tend to become a little serious because nobody will want to lose money wantedly.
It's the money that is involved that makes the gambler to gamble more and win more. But even in that case, the amount shouldn't exceed our budget or capability of losing it.

[Findingnemo]

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Restrictions can come from the gambling site itself or from the game providers. Generally, a gambling site has its own global restricted areas and it means all games on that gambling site will not be available for their restricted area list. After that, there are extra restrictions from game providers and a person who lives in a specific nation is allowed to play game A and other many games from a game provider X, but is not allowed to play games B and some other games from a game provider Y.

It's remarkable that despite so many restrictions many millions of people still find a way to gamble online when they want. I think maybe it's because people need it. To play those games, I mean. Not to make money with them, of course, but to relax from stressful life. People need it and that's why restrictions must be removed, in civilized world at least.

Gambling is one of the most done activity on the internet apart from *orn so it's not a wonder we see casinos crossing millions and billions bets mark in just a couple of years. The restrictions based on the legal status of gambling in a region so if people from banned region wants to gamble then they need to enforce the ruling government to make it legal. And in some countries it will not be revoked no matter what because of religious beliefs. So having a world where gambling is possible from every corner but atleast everyone can experience once in a life time when they move to other regions.

[aylabadia05]

Can we return back to the main purposes of Duelbits business, betting?

I like it because our main goal here is to discuss betting and everything related to business, not to discuss one thing continuously so that we forget the main purpose of this casino.

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[ajiz138]

I will wait for the league to start The Premier League will be back with some great matches especially the Big Match - Manchester City vs Arsenal as usual duelbits always offer high odds.

Amazing jackpot. I want it. Maybe the 1 BTC jackpot is desired by all the players registered here.

The instant lottery also has a $50,000 jackpot. Everyone wants this win. Wish you all the luck.

[Taskford]

To play those games, I mean. Not to make money with them, of course, but to relax from stressful life. People need it and that's why restrictions must be removed, in civilized world at least.

I don't think it is completely like you said. People, when it comes to gambling, will want to achieve both, fun, relax and winning to gain money. If they don't want to chase money, can not afford to lose money, they can simply play off-line games or even online games for free and don't come to online casinos and spend money for betting.

That is definitely true when we think from that perspective. Most gamers prefer to play offline games but that's the difference between gaming offline and gambling.
Even I play for fun most of the times but when money is involved we tend to become a little serious because nobody will want to lose money wantedly.
It's the money that is involved that makes the gambler to gamble more and win more. But even in that case, the amount shouldn't exceed our budget or capability of losing it.

Maybe it depends of availability of the person since not everyone are blessed to have lots of time to go outside gamble and enjoy the vibes of offline casino. This is why there's a lot of people choosing online casino since eventhough they won't get the same atmosphere what offline casino brings to them but at least they have fun to play those classic games that they want to play the same on offline. We see online casino is booming and its billion dollar industry so we can expect that a lot of people are getting involve to new technology and they select to gamble at home since they feel more safety there. For talking about budgeting then I guess its all up for those people on how much they can afford to lose.

[Beparanf]

Maybe it depends of availability of the person since not everyone are blessed to have lots of time to go outside gamble and enjoy the vibes of offline casino. This is why there's a lot of people choosing online casino since eventhough they won't get the same atmosphere what offline casino brings to them but at least they have fun to play those classic games that they want to play the same on offline. We see online casino is booming and its billion dollar industry so we can expect that a lot of people are getting involve to new technology and they select to gamble at home since they feel more safety there. For talking about budgeting then I guess its all up for those people on how much they can afford to lose.

Not only lots of time but also some players leave very far on the location of the casino especially province area like me that will takes 4hrs to 6hrs ride depending on the traffic just to play in the casino although some casino provides shuttle service fin the province but still it’s time consuming and waste of energy just to play offline casino while you can play it comfortably in your house.

Not to mention that offline casino slot games have lower RTP and they don’t have rakebacks or any form of bonuses unless you are a VIP member which in online casino you can be a VIP instantly when you register and receive multiple bonus on your first game. The online casino makes everything easier and feels like VIP players that you can’t experience playing offline based on my own experience when I visit Okada manila here in our country.

[dzungmobile]

Maybe it depends of availability of the person since not everyone are blessed to have lots of time to go outside gamble and enjoy the vibes of offline casino. This is why there's a lot of people choosing online casino since eventhough they won't get the same atmosphere what offline casino brings to them but at least they have fun to play those classic games that they want to play the same on offline.

Different air/ atmosphere while playing is one of reasons but I beg to differ that have chance to win while playing games and get money from playing is something very addictive.

In my opinion, it is one of addictive hook to keep people spend money and play on online casinos. They know about risk but they smell chance to get money and it is true not only for online casinos. We also can say about it with cryptocurrency market, we all see risk but we can not stop investing, trading in this market. Cryptocurrency market itself is a big casino already.