Presidential debates

[Gyfts]

Trump is down in the polls, and debating is one way that a candidate can climb out of a polling deficit. Trump is not going to not participate in the next debate.

This doesn't make sense though?

If he's down, why wouldn't he want to participate in the debates?

Are you arguing with a double negative?

Although it doesn't make much sense either way. Trump didn't really help himself in the first debate.

He didn't help himself in the first debate, but in 2016 his first debate performance was shitty too. He picked it up the other debates despite the releasing of the pussy tapes and sexual assault allegations. Plus there were a lot factually untrue things Joe Biden said in the debate that Trump never bothered refuting. No reason at all for him to check out of the remaining debates.

[suchmoon]

He didn't help himself in the first debate, but in 2016 his first debate performance was shitty too. He picked it up the other debates despite the releasing of the pussy tapes and sexual assault allegations. Plus there were a lot factually untrue things Joe Biden said in the debate that Trump never bothered refuting. No reason at all for him to check out of the remaining debates.

Maybe... if he's hit rock bottom and the only way is up. I'd be shitting my pants now if I was responsible for Trump's strategy for the next debate, particularly considering the town hall format. Given Trump's attacks on Wallace, what if he unloads on one of the "town" people asking questions? He's a loose cannon. The only thing he can hope for is that Biden will bomb worse than him... which is not likely given that Biden despite being gaffe-prone usually knows when to step back whereas Trump usually doubles and triples down on his blunders.

[Gyfts]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849

Well, I guess we won't be getting our debates after all. Crazy how that works.

[TwitchySeal]

Trump is not going to not participate in the next debate.  

You'd have to have a crystal ball to know that.

Who knows, he could get covid or something.

[PrimeNumber7]

Trump is not going to not participate in the next debate.  

You'd have to have a crystal ball to know that.

Who knows, he could get covid or something.

Not nice.

It takes about two weeks to get over a mild case of coronavirus, and up to 6 weeks for a severe case. Trump likely did not get the virus today, so that 2 week window has already started. The next presidential debate is in 13 days.

I would also note that Biden was in the same room as Trump for 90 minutes just two days ago, so it is very possible that he also has it, or that he got it at the debate.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849

Well, I guess we won't be getting our debates after all. Crazy how that works.

Not good. I would be willing to bet that Trump will debate Biden. If he only has a mild case, he will likely debate in separate rooms. If he has a more severe case, he will likely drop out of the race.

[suchmoon]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849

Well, I guess we won't be getting our debates after all. Crazy how that works.

That's bad. Hope Hicks tested positive earlier today and she was with Trump everywhere the last few days. A lot of other people are likely infected too.

I wish everyone quick recovery. It would be nice if this wasn't politicized but it most definitely will be.

[Gyfts]

Trump is not going to not participate in the next debate.  

You'd have to have a crystal ball to know that.

Who knows, he could get covid or something.

Not nice.

It takes about two weeks to get over a mild case of coronavirus, and up to 6 weeks for a severe case. Trump likely did not get the virus today, so that 2 week window has already started. The next presidential debate is in 13 days.

I would also note that Biden was in the same room as Trump for 90 minutes just two days ago, so it is very possible that he also has it, or that he got it at the debate.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849

Well, I guess we won't be getting our debates after all. Crazy how that works.

Not good. I would be willing to bet that Trump will debate Biden. If he only has a mild case, he will likely debate in separate rooms. If he has a more severe case, he will likely drop out of the race.

Trump's tested so often, probably numerous times a day I bet. He had to have been recently infected by the virus meaning a solid two week quarantine period, maybe a bit less. If he were to drop out due to COVID-19 holy fuck that'd be some irony there.

[TwitchySeal]

Trump is not going to not participate in the next debate.  

You'd have to have a crystal ball to know that.

Who knows, he could get covid or something.

Not nice.

It takes about two weeks to get over a mild case of coronavirus, and up to 6 weeks for a severe case. Trump likely did not get the virus today, so that 2 week window has already started. The next presidential debate is in 13 days.

I would also note that Biden was in the same room as Trump for 90 minutes just two days ago, so it is very possible that he also has it, or that he got it at the debate.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849

Well, I guess we won't be getting our debates after all. Crazy how that works.

Not good. I would be willing to bet that Trump will debate Biden. If he only has a mild case, he will likely debate in separate rooms. If he has a more severe case, he will likely drop out of the race.

I'm not saying that he will or wont, because I don't know.  That's my point.  There's time for Trump to turn the positive test into political gain by Nov 4th, it's also possible he dies the night before. 

[suchmoon]

Trump's tested so often, probably numerous times a day I bet. He had to have been recently infected by the virus meaning a solid two week quarantine period, maybe a bit less. If he were to drop out due to COVID-19 holy fuck that'd be some irony there.

There is no reason for him to drop out, not yet anyway. If this was a civilized country both Biden and Trump should suspend their campaigns for the duration of the quarantine but that's not going to happen.

[TwitchySeal]

Gonna be Christmas day for BADecker and crew if Trump ends up being asymptomatic and looking healthy on the other side of this quarantine. 

[Gyfts]

Gonna be Christmas day for BADecker and crew if Trump ends up being asymptomatic and looking healthy on the other side of this quarantine. 

Getting COVID-19 to own the libs.

[Cnut237]

It has to be said that if the debates are going to be remote due to Trump's Covid... it is a lot easier for the presenter to press the mute button on a screen than on the man himself. It's not just a flippant comment - this seems like it is a small thing, but it can profoundly influence the dynamic. I know they were floating the idea of muting before the Covid announcement, but if he's muted and still physically on the stage, he can still have an impact, whereas penned in by the walls of a screen, there's not much he can do.

[suchmoon]

It has to be said that if the debates are going to be remote due to Trump's Covid... it is a lot easier for the presenter to press the mute button on a screen than on the man himself. It's not just a flippant comment - this seems like it is a small thing, but it can profoundly influence the dynamic. I know they were floating the idea of muting before the Covid announcement, but if he's muted and still physically on the stage, he can still have an impact, whereas penned in by the walls of a screen, there's not much he can do.

Maybe they can do it via Twitter.

[Cnut237]

It has to be said that if the debates are going to be remote due to Trump's Covid... it is a lot easier for the presenter to press the mute button on a screen than on the man himself. It's not just a flippant comment - this seems like it is a small thing, but it can profoundly influence the dynamic. I know they were floating the idea of muting before the Covid announcement, but if he's muted and still physically on the stage, he can still have an impact, whereas penned in by the walls of a screen, there's not much he can do.

Maybe they can do it via Twitter.

Only if both candidates agree. Trump would have to submit his vote by postal ballot.

[JayJuanGee]

It has to be said that if the debates are going to be remote due to Trump's Covid... it is a lot easier for the presenter to press the mute button on a screen than on the man himself. It's not just a flippant comment - this seems like it is a small thing, but it can profoundly influence the dynamic. I know they were floating the idea of muting before the Covid announcement, but if he's muted and still physically on the stage, he can still have an impact, whereas penned in by the walls of a screen, there's not much he can do.

Maybe they can do it via Twitter.

Funny thing about twitter remains whether senile ones could construct their own tweets.

Both of those fucks cheat in that regard, so there may need to be rules to govern the verification of their typing.... maybe we need a blockchain for that?  BSV.. they have plenty of extra space for nonsense.. and surely can be trusted.

Didn't someone mention earlier that those POTUS candidate diptwats were tweeting during the actual debates... Yeah, right?  That would be some other dork sending such like-minded dork tweet nonsense.  A form of desperation to not even be able to wait until the damned debate is over to at least allow for an actual appearance that the actual dweeb is typing the actual dumb thought dweeb tweets.

[Philipma1957cellphone]

Trump is not going to not participate in the next debate.  

You'd have to have a crystal ball to know that.

Who knows, he could get covid or something.

Not nice.

It takes about two weeks to get over a mild case of coronavirus, and up to 6 weeks for a severe case. Trump likely did not get the virus today, so that 2 week window has already started. The next presidential debate is in 13 days.

I would also note that Biden was in the same room as Trump for 90 minutes just two days ago, so it is very possible that he also has it, or that he got it at the debate.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849

Well, I guess we won't be getting our debates after all. Crazy how that works.

Not good. I would be willing to bet that Trump will debate Biden. If he only has a mild case, he will likely debate in separate rooms. If he has a more severe case, he will likely drop out of the race.

   covid-19 has give  trump a. Exit strategy.  He now has the option to resign with health as the reason. For the good of the country I am not well enough so I appoint my daughter as the vp.  Pence Trump  still the ticket.

And pence pardons trump for any and all crimes committed in office.

Just o e of many moves trump now has due to covid-19

[JayJuanGee]

Trump is not going to not participate in the next debate.  

You'd have to have a crystal ball to know that.

Who knows, he could get covid or something.

Not nice.

It takes about two weeks to get over a mild case of coronavirus, and up to 6 weeks for a severe case. Trump likely did not get the virus today, so that 2 week window has already started. The next presidential debate is in 13 days.

I would also note that Biden was in the same room as Trump for 90 minutes just two days ago, so it is very possible that he also has it, or that he got it at the debate.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849

Well, I guess we won't be getting our debates after all. Crazy how that works.

Not good. I would be willing to bet that Trump will debate Biden. If he only has a mild case, he will likely debate in separate rooms. If he has a more severe case, he will likely drop out of the race.

   covid-19 has give  trump a. Exit strategy.  He now has the option to resign with health as the reason. For the good of the country I am not well enough so I appoint my daughter as the vp.  Pence Trump  still the ticket.

And pence pardons trump for any and all crimes committed in office.

Just o e of many moves trump now has due to covid-19

Possibly.


Federal crimes and state crimes.  Presidents have pardon power over federal crimes, and surely there would be some turmoil over any of these kinds of potential corruption matters... Yet when there are so many messes that are made, sometimes, even politicians of the opposing party, prefer to merely bring closure to some of the matters rather than revealing how extensively the people have been fleeced by a variety of greed/power based shenanigans.

[theymos]

covid-19 has give  trump a. Exit strategy.  He now has the option to resign with health as the reason. For the good of the country I am not well enough so I appoint my daughter as the vp.  Pence Trump  still the ticket.

And pence pardons trump for any and all crimes committed in office.

Just o e of many moves trump now has due to covid-19

Honestly it's not a bad idea as a hail mary strategy. Trump already had only a small chance of pulling this off, he didn't do well enough in the debate, and now he won't be able to campaign effectively. We've all gotten trained from our experience with 2016 to think that Trump is somehow going to pull this off, but it's looking almost impossible now, so something utterly crazy like that might be in order. A lot of people are holding their noses to vote for Biden just because they despise Trump. Biden is such a terrible candidate that even a boring Republican like Romney or Pence would in ordinary times wipe the floor with him. If they switch to Ivanka, some of Trump's die-hard base will stick with her, and some people who are only reluctantly voting for Biden would switch or at least not vote.

[JayJuanGee]

covid-19 has give  trump a. Exit strategy.  He now has the option to resign with health as the reason. For the good of the country I am not well enough so I appoint my daughter as the vp.  Pence Trump  still the ticket.

And pence pardons trump for any and all crimes committed in office.

Just o e of many moves trump now has due to covid-19

Honestly it's not a bad idea as a hail mary strategy. Trump already had only a small chance of pulling this off, he didn't do well enough in the debate, and now he won't be able to campaign effectively. We've all gotten trained from our experience with 2016 to think that Trump is somehow going to pull this off, but it's looking almost impossible now, so something utterly crazy like that might be in order. A lot of people are holding their noses to vote for Biden just because they despise Trump. Biden is such a terrible candidate that even a boring Republican like Romney or Pence would in ordinary times wipe the floor with him. If they switch to Ivanka, some of Trump's die-hard base will stick with her, and some people who are only reluctantly voting for Biden would switch or at least not vote.

Even though some folks want to consider the US system like it were able to employ willy-nilly nepotism, I question the extent to which candidates can be changed either at the last moment or even changed at all after voting has already started.

Furthermore, there are state by state differentiations in terms of merely getting on the ballot or whether candidates can be written in, etc etc..

So, just seems like a legal quagmire to play various kinds of games of attempting to hand-off power, even in extreme circumstances, and even though these day, it remains difficult to rule out anything when it comes to what certain parties might attempt to pull off.

It's like desperate times call for desperate measures - and gosh, if some weird-ass shit has been allowed to happen earlier in this administration in terms of nepotism like practices, why not continue with additional weird-ass measures that are not necessarily based within actual legal requirements?

[squatz1]

covid-19 has give  trump a. Exit strategy.  He now has the option to resign with health as the reason. For the good of the country I am not well enough so I appoint my daughter as the vp.  Pence Trump  still the ticket.

And pence pardons trump for any and all crimes committed in office.

Just o e of many moves trump now has due to covid-19

Honestly it's not a bad idea as a hail mary strategy. Trump already had only a small chance of pulling this off, he didn't do well enough in the debate, and now he won't be able to campaign effectively. We've all gotten trained from our experience with 2016 to think that Trump is somehow going to pull this off, but it's looking almost impossible now, so something utterly crazy like that might be in order. A lot of people are holding their noses to vote for Biden just because they despise Trump. Biden is such a terrible candidate that even a boring Republican like Romney or Pence would in ordinary times wipe the floor with him. If they switch to Ivanka, some of Trump's die-hard base will stick with her, and some people who are only reluctantly voting for Biden would switch or at least not vote.

Even though some folks want to consider the US system like it were able to employ willy-nilly nepotism, I question the extent to which candidates can be changed either at the last moment or even changed at all after voting has already started.

Furthermore, there are state by state differentiations in terms of merely getting on the ballot or whether candidates can be written in, etc etc..

So, just seems like a legal quagmire to play various kinds of games of attempting to hand-off power, even in extreme circumstances, and even though these day, it remains difficult to rule out anything when it comes to what certain parties might attempt to pull off.

It's like desperate times call for desperate measures - and gosh, if some weird-ass shit has been allowed to happen earlier in this administration in terms of nepotism like practices, why not continue with additional weird-ass measures that are not necessarily based within actual legal requirements?

Yeah I think filing deadlines for a good amount of states have passed at this point. Not fully sure if someone could replace Trump (or Biden) on the ticket at this point. That's not even thinking about the fact that TONS of people have already voted by mail, and those votes can not be changed even if the candidate has died or has become incapacitated in some way up to this point.

I suppose Congress could delay the election, but we're too deadlocked to even let that happen. You'd need both sides of congress to agree on that, and the GOP controls the Senate while the DNC controls the House.

In summary: If one of them dies, the other will most likely win and that'll be the end of the election.