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November 10, 2020, 12:33:12 PM
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Well, the declaration of the profits from the operating gambling casino is based on all the profits minus the operational expenses thus includes salary for the personnel and staff working in that casino. Meaning that it is possible that they could get a good revenue after the cost cut of salary for their personnel and staff. We could not also blame the casino management to force this to happen because of pandemic. Remember that most of the government had set the capacity of the venue to be limited thus it could lessen too the volume of the gamblers that will going to play and the needed personnel and staff also should only the required number to its optimum to maximize health safety protocols.
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November 10, 2020, 12:44:11 PM
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Macau continues to suffer the effects of the ongoing pandemic, despite some of the slight recoveries taking place in the industry.


This explains everything. Casinos can't afford to have so many employees yet few gamblers, that means they'll only have smaller bankrolls than they have before and the same payouts before, in short, they're going to suffer if they won't remove some of their employees. However, the unpaid part is not convincing at all, because even though they are suffering due to the ongoing pandemic, they have still funds to pay their employees that they forced to leave.

It's not surprising at all, it's happening all over the world. Most of the old employees are the ones who remains in the company because they do have more merits than the new ones.
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November 10, 2020, 01:22:09 PM
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I have friends in the casino industry and what they are going through is kinda harsh since most of them are also forced to take unpaid leaves with no definite time-frame of their return to the field given that most of the players are still unable to get back and play inside brick-and-mortar casinos due to the threat of COVID-19. Some of them are forced to take other jobs completely different from their line of work, which is really frustrating though they can't be choosers knowing how everyone is affected one way or another by this pandemic.

Macau is almost COVID-free the last time I checked, but you can't really expect the locals to play there on their own, and most of their revenues are coming in from foreign nationals visiting the country to play in their casinos which is obviously not happening due to travel restrictions and such.

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November 10, 2020, 01:53:42 PM
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I think its because of the pandemic, since people are not allowed to go out because of the pandemic, companies are having a hard time where to get the salary for the employee, but they should think of other ways to pay them or at least maybe half in consideration, its a tough time for employers and employee, they should have at least come to a conclusion wherein everyone is happy, I hope this pandemic ends already, it has affected everything.

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November 10, 2020, 01:58:07 PM
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Maybe we can think that it is unfair for the employee, but the employee can not do anything because they need to follow their company.
This pandemic puts many companies in hard situations because they want to have their employee still work with them.
In other situations, the company needs to spend more budgets to pay their employee.
On the other hand, they need to make money from their business, but unfortunately, the company needs to work harder than before.
The employees suffer and really need help, but maybe there will be new jobs to start working in the new jobs to get paid.
If the unpaid employee can get new jobs, they can survive this pandemic, and the important thing is they can have money to buy their daily needs.
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November 10, 2020, 03:11:03 PM
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Macau is a tourist and gambling city, these two are their source of revenue, the government, private sectors and workers should hold a dialogue, I am a pro worker, but they should consider the offer as long as they are not laying off their workers, vaccines are coming out and we will go back to normal, the kind of normal that we used to enjoyed before the pandemic, and workers can then ask for compensation because they agreed to take an unpaid leave.


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November 10, 2020, 03:22:34 PM
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It's kinda understandable why they are forced to take unpaid leave since businesses in this industry are widely affected by the pandemic. Like us, businesses also need to survive. A lot of industries were affected so it's also happening in other sectors, some even lost their jobs. I think most gamblers are still afraid to go outside and the authorities still won't allow crowded places so it's also hard for the business's part. But since it's mentioned that their revenue already increased, I hope workers will now also receive enough pay.
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The Macau gaming enterprise have reported that more than 60% of the Workers working in casinos have been Forced to take Unpaid leave.

The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.

Now 8% of them are thinking of switching to new jobs.

Now the steps taken  to tackle that :

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Macau government could regulate the unpaid leave, measures could be implemented for an economic rebound, employees could be offered additional training, and the foreign employment quota should be adjusted to protect the local workers.

Macau continues to suffer the effects of the ongoing pandemic, despite some of the slight recoveries taking place in the industry.


At the same time we saw the boost in the gaming revenues:
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Macau’s gross gaming revenue (GGR) dropped by 90% in September but rose by 229% month-on-month in October. The Individual Visit Scheme resumed mid-September and helped boost the economy in a small way, however, the country expects the tourist arrivals for 2020 to drop by 90%.


Source : https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/10359/60-of-macaus-casino-workers-furloughed-without-pay


It is very sad to hear and read such a thing. And that while those casinos all have large turnover. Then the first rule for me is to take good care of your staff right away and straight on a good way.
Your staff has made you great and successful, and you must continue to treat them with respect at all times.

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November 10, 2020, 03:54:35 PM
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The Macau gaming enterprise have reported that more than 60% of the Workers working in casinos have been Forced to take Unpaid leave.

The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.

Now 8% of them are thinking of switching to new jobs.

Now the steps taken  to tackle that :

Quote
Macau government could regulate the unpaid leave, measures could be implemented for an economic rebound, employees could be offered additional training, and the foreign employment quota should be adjusted to protect the local workers.

Macau continues to suffer the effects of the ongoing pandemic, despite some of the slight recoveries taking place in the industry.


At the same time we saw the boost in the gaming revenues:
Quote
Macau’s gross gaming revenue (GGR) dropped by 90% in September but rose by 229% month-on-month in October. The Individual Visit Scheme resumed mid-September and helped boost the economy in a small way, however, the country expects the tourist arrivals for 2020 to drop by 90%.


Source : https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/10359/60-of-macaus-casino-workers-furloughed-without-pay


It is very sad to hear and read such a thing. And that while those casinos all have large turnover. Then the first rule for me is to take good care of your staff right away and straight on a good way.
Your staff has made you great and successful, and you must continue to treat them with respect at all times.
This is an awful thing. They don't care about their staffs! After the hardwork and effort they had given, the management force them to leave without payment such a heartless people. They didn't think that their staffs has families to feed and monthly bills to pay and now how are they able to pay those and how are they able to live with a tight budget? Come on they need the money.
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November 10, 2020, 04:16:57 PM
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I think the casinos could have seen a way to have some pay cut for the workers and not totally not giving out some pay to them because I believe that these workers have families and people depending on them . That is why having a regulated casino will make better good for players and workers also.
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November 10, 2020, 04:19:04 PM
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This is what happen to most of the workers here also in our country so I am not that surprise that the Macau gaming are imposing some forced unpaid leave especially if they can no longer support the payment of their workers.

If the crisis will be finish, I am sure that they can go back to work again but I cannot blame also those 8% for looking for other jobs especially if they need to find some money in order to support their daily livings.
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November 10, 2020, 04:42:54 PM
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That is a very sad situation which doesn't happen only in casino industry, but in every sectors I believe. We can just hope these employees find work elsewhere at least until the economical activities start heating again.
Furthermore, that is why investments are so important in someone's life. These employees, for an example, didn't expect to be forced into unpaid leave, it was a sudden situation.
So it's important to have some money saved or invested in order to keep the financial life and to guarantee the basic needs during crisis time. That is something which should be taught at schools.

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November 10, 2020, 06:00:53 PM
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The Macau gaming enterprise have reported that more than 60% of the Workers working in casinos have been Forced to take Unpaid leave.

The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.

Now 8% of them are thinking of switching to new jobs.

Now the steps taken  to tackle that :

Quote
Macau government could regulate the unpaid leave, measures could be implemented for an economic rebound, employees could be offered additional training, and the foreign employment quota should be adjusted to protect the local workers.

Macau continues to suffer the effects of the ongoing pandemic, despite some of the slight recoveries taking place in the industry.


At the same time we saw the boost in the gaming revenues:
Quote
Macau’s gross gaming revenue (GGR) dropped by 90% in September but rose by 229% month-on-month in October. The Individual Visit Scheme resumed mid-September and helped boost the economy in a small way, however, the country expects the tourist arrivals for 2020 to drop by 90%.


Source : https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/10359/60-of-macaus-casino-workers-furloughed-without-pay


It is very sad to hear and read such a thing. And that while those casinos all have large turnover. Then the first rule for me is to take good care of your staff right away and straight on a good way.
Your staff has made you great and successful, and you must continue to treat them with respect at all times.
This is an awful thing. They don't care about their staffs! After the hardwork and effort they had given, the management force them to leave without payment such a heartless people. They didn't think that their staffs has families to feed and monthly bills to pay and now how are they able to pay those and how are they able to live with a tight budget? Come on they need the money.
This is very concerning and such incidents have occurred in any business or company during the pandemic, unpaid leave, and even being dismissed with severance payments that do not match the term of office.
and inevitably they have to accept the harsh reality that their lives will be more difficult during the pandemic due to the loss of jobs and income to meet their needs, may this pandemic end quickly and all who have lost their jobs can return to work normally.

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November 10, 2020, 06:02:14 PM
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Nothing is weird over here. When those casino workers were joining the casino, they had to sign a legal contract with them. The contract had all the terms and clauses which the workers read (I assume) and signed. So they agreed to all these as soon as they joined.
If that is not the case, and they are "forced" an unpaid leave, then they can take legal actions against the casino. If the casino did anything wrong, they will have to pay their workers their regular wage along with some compensation.

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November 10, 2020, 06:59:03 PM
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Nothing is weird over here. When those casino workers were joining the casino, they had to sign a legal contract with them. The contract had all the terms and clauses which the workers read (I assume) and signed. So they agreed to all these as soon as they joined.
If that is not the case, and they are "forced" an unpaid leave, then they can take legal actions against the casino. If the casino did anything wrong, they will have to pay their workers their regular wage along with some compensation.

yeah, as soon as it signed, you are officially a slave for them.
but still, the labor institution in that country should protect the workers.
a force majeure event like this current pandemic situation should not be an excuse to made that workers in that position.
unpaid leave for workers is a double-kill for them.
If I am not mistaken, the living cost in Macau is very expensive too, compared to nearby Asian countries.
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I thought the Asian countries are doing good than the westerners in dealing with the virus, the news seems to tell us that Asian countries are doing better and are almost back to normal like how the Chinese are going it.

The new normal really isn't normal at all. Though the virus are very much controlled in their area, the people are still very cautious that they are still not going back to casino like they use to.

Well, you just answered your own statement.
Though the virus has been under controlled along this area, but that doesn't mean every businesses has bounced back after a devastating economic crash. Macau has been knowned as the Las Vegas of Asia and are expecting to cater a lot of foreign clients every single day. Without these foreign clients, the casino cannot contain the payroll If all the staff are in full operation.
The casino cannot be blamed here If these employees has been force to have "leave with no pay" . This scenario should be consulted to the government to assist these employees financially.

That is true, many businesses didn't recover or are still in slow and painful surviving process. That also depends from country to country, in some governments introduced some measurers to help to recover the economy but not equal to all businesses. Unfortunately,  I think that gambling industry is among those who didn't receive much help and government support.
It's not a wonder that workers found themselves in such difficult situation but it's also up to owners to decide how to deal with that. Is it their priority to keep their own economy standard or keep workers at job and help them to survive.
Understandable that gambling industry wont really be on the priority specially into this pandemic situation.Most likely or definitely the sector that had been supported
is mainly on essentials which i cant really blame off yet this one is very needed specially now on this global condition.So, in result this will really affect those other industries
which is outside on the scope of essentials which its understandable that all of them are struggling to survive this is why majority do really need to lay-off due to big expense
from to its worker pays and if they wont do it then that might result into total closure due to bankruptcy.

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November 10, 2020, 07:28:15 PM
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That is a very sad situation which doesn't happen only in casino industry, but in every sectors I believe. We can just hope these employees find work elsewhere at least until the economical activities start heating again.
Furthermore, that is why investments are so important in someone's life. These employees, for an example, didn't expect to be forced into unpaid leave, it was a sudden situation.
So it's important to have some money saved or invested in order to keep the financial life and to guarantee the basic needs during crisis time. That is something which should be taught at schools.

Nice comment, I share the same opinion! It's sad for people who are basically on the street now, because it's hard to find a job these days and keep paying bills! Bills don't late! I agree with you that people should learn to save and invest, this two things can save you in troubled times, and those times comes when you don't expect!
Well we are living in hard times! Yesterday I saw a guy on TV from my city, with several diplomas, and he knows 5 languages, he had a travel agency and worked all life only that! Now he drives a cab, and he says that he needs to pay bills, government didn't help that sector, there are no tourists... totally fucked up times for many people! We can only hope it will be better!

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November 10, 2020, 08:06:15 PM
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I'm not surprised about it anymore since it did happen already before since the start of lockdown due to the pandemic. I think this is the only way that casino owner wants to minimize the losing of money since there are strict rules implemented that there should not a mass gathering. I don't think it only happens in casino workers because everyone was affected by this new normal so almost every businesses you know and see are all affected with this kind of problem.

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November 10, 2020, 08:13:50 PM
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The growth of income from games occurs only against the background of September. If you compare this figure with October 2019, it will not be in favor of October 2020. That is why we had to send workers on unpaid leave. Casino is not a place that is vital to people during the pandemic, so many refuse to visit, which affects casino income.

Did you ever heard about planetwin365 sportsbets gambling platform ?
With the pandemic, the company turn the website into an online gaming interface where gamblers can still bet their chances in new online games. It was a wise step to avoid the infection of the pandemic. I would think why all those casinos didn't thought about something similar instead of fire employments. When the workers leave, this is the worst sign the company isn't to be trusted by anybody .

Any casino can create a site for gambling. However, this will not save the dismissed employees, because they still can not all work as a support service or technical staff site. Therefore, if the casino has a seriously reduced number of visitors, they will not avoid layoffs. They could certainly pay at least part of their salary, but this could eventually lead to the bankruptcy of the casino. And so the workers have a chance to be hired again once the pandemic is over. The employees will certainly have to look for a new job after they are fired, but the responsible employer will have to pay a good severance package when they are fired.
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November 10, 2020, 08:14:28 PM
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I'm not surprised about it anymore since it did happen already before since the start of lockdown due to the pandemic. I think this is the only way that casino owner wants to minimize the losing of money since there are strict rules implemented that there should not a mass gathering. I don't think it only happens in casino workers because everyone was affected by this new normal so almost every businesses you know and see are all affected with this kind of problem.

Very true! This situation is not special nor unique as most businesses around the globe are in survival mode. Business owners need to think of alternatives how they can lessen their operational expenses. And since casinos don't have the usual number of players, they are not generating the same income as before. Also, this situation has been experienced by most even at the start of pandemic, so they should know that this will going to happen to them. If you are an employee, you need to understand the situation and look for other options where you can earn extra income. Your job is not your whole life where you can depend on. There are some ways to get that money.
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