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[wildan88]

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Some time ago I made a post about the VAR. It explains that players have the opportunity to (intentionally) abuse the VAR in certain matches, especially with football.
I am not accusing anyone of anything, but given your bet and your reaction, it seems you already knew there was going to be a goal.
We also saw a group of cheaters at work last week who have been spotted by Adkinsbet with their accounts blocked, and their stake paid back. That's the only thing you can expect when you try to manipulate things.
The bet that you placed, did not make any normal sense. It is not that you placed a bet after 20 minutes with 25 minutes remaining. You placed a bet in the 43th minute and in the same minute the goal was scored?
Do the math.

[gadado]

@MishaYo
How much have you deposited on the site and how much have you wagered after that deposit?

[MishaYo]

BTCGOLD,   gadado       how much money do you get for protecting a scam project?

in this case the bookmaker accepted my bet! and this bet won! - what other questions do you have?
why do you see a coupon with an accepted bet, which the bookmaker did not want to pay, start protecting the bookmaker? do you work together?

my bet was placed about 40 minutes into the match. why I made such a bet is known only to me! just like any other bets made by players! for this the bookmaker and offers to accept them!
sometimes they win, sometimes they lose.
as a result - my bet won! I want to receive my winnings!

if the bookmaker refuses to pay for the accepted bets, then this is a scam project! There are a lot of such bookmakers on the market!
but what surprises me is that they just recently bought a license and are already starting to cancel winnings!

I think we know what you mean by this. Probably there was an issue with the VAR or do you have access to streaming. Bookmakers are known to have a delay of a few seconds on odds, and the VAR can be quite big. You cannot place the responsibility with the bookmaker.
You have probably deliberately tried to abuse the system yourself, so it makes sense that your bet will be canceled, right? You write that it is a scam project, but in fact you are the scammer doing arbitrage betting.

awesome conclusion

then answer me for an example - is an arbitrage bet a fraudulent bet? when I make such a bets, does the bookmaker sign it in the coupon?

now about the VAR. everyone knows that during a var, none of the bookmakers accepts bets! it's impossible!

I freak out from these comments. where are the ppl who write laudatory posts for money. When the bookmaker cancels the bets that he accepts, they write that this is normal!
what else do you think is normal?

[ufaiz50]

then answer me for an example - is an arbitrage bet a fraudulent bet? when I make such a bets, does the bookmaker sign it in the coupon?

So this means you admit it was an arbitrage bet?

[gadado]

@MishaYo
How much have you deposited on the site and how much have you wagered after that deposit?

Maybe these questions were to hard for him to answer 

[MishaYo]

@MishaYo
How much have you deposited on the site and how much have you wagered after that deposit?

it's none of your business!
and in general has nothing to do with the case.

a person who has at least a little brain will never make a big pot in an unknown new bookmaker!
this is how it works - one deposit, one bet. further from the result.

at the moment I see the bookmaker is canceling the won bets!
this means that any bet you make may be canceled(for any reason)! and such a clever move is applied at the moment when your overall balance strives for a good plus!
as an example, if you keep losing (as 95% of players do) you will never know how they cheat users! how good that we immediately saw it!

[BlackFor3st]

Your question:
is an arbitrage bet a fraudulent bet?

I think the answer could be yes and no. A long-time customer, who once places a bet that is lucky to fall under an arbitrage bet, will definitely not be a fraud.
what you did; in my opinion that falls under fraud. given your reaction here on the forum and refusing to answer, it seems to me that you are consciously looking for errors at a bookmaker.
Every bookmaker suffers from that.
I also see that you do not answer simple questions, probably because then you betray your own.

[ufaiz50]

a person who has at least a little brain will never make a big pot in an unknown new bookmaker!

And a person with at least a little brain would also not bet his 13.80 mbtc stake at odds from 5.25 for a goal to be scored in the last 5 minutes of the 1st half.
I think we all know what you did, and that you managed to exploit the odds.
The only question remains: How did he do it?

[MishaYo]

then answer me for an example - is an arbitrage bet a fraudulent bet? when I make such a bets, does the bookmaker sign it in the coupon?

So this means you admit it was an arbitrage bet?

no it wasnt arbitrage bet!
but i know that is arbitrage.  arbitrage just a normal bet!  
sometimes both outcomes can give an arbitrage situation (especially often in bookmakers with low margins)!
what then?
all bets on the match can be canceled

Of course, the scam bookmakers can name any reason they did so!
but no matter what you write here, a scam bookmaker differs from a good bookmaker - in that he never cancels bets! unless these were obvious mistakes (type oesli for the victory of Barcelona give a coefficient of 100.0)

[MishaYo]

Your question:
is an arbitrage bet a fraudulent bet?

I think the answer could be yes and no. A long-time customer, who once places a bet that is lucky to fall under an arbitrage bet, will definitely not be a fraud.
what you did; in my opinion that falls under fraud. given your reaction here on the forum and refusing to answer, it seems to me that you are consciously looking for errors at a bookmaker.
Every bookmaker suffers from that.
I also see that you do not answer simple questions, probably because then you betray your own.

good dog
working off your money well!

in case you haven't noticed, now I'm talking to 5 or more people! I can’t give everyone an answer in one minute!
Wait a bit. By the way, the answer to this post has already been given.

[BTCGOLD]

@MishaYo
How much have you deposited on the site and how much have you wagered after that deposit?

it's none of your business!
and in general has nothing to do with the case.

a person who has at least a little brain will never make a big pot in an unknown new bookmaker!
this is how it works - one deposit, one bet. further from the result.

at the moment I see the bookmaker is canceling the won bets!
this means that any bet you make may be canceled(for any reason)! and such a clever move is applied at the moment when your overall balance strives for a good plus!
as an example, if you keep losing (as 95% of players do) you will never know how they cheat users! how good that we immediately saw it!

Its is part of our business actually, you posted here in the topic, and want an opinion from people. Since then we can judge if it was logical what you were doing with making a bet or not.
If you keep hiding the facts, then you will only make yourself suspicious.

[MishaYo]

nice bookmaker...

iam waiting yuor comments here
my first bet: Al-Wahda Abu Dhabi  -  Al Dhafra Al Dhafra      Total.1 Half: Total Over 0.5
 win   and was void
https://prnt.sc/vto4gn
Coupon Id: B606833909


my second bet: Al-Wahda Abu Dhabi  -  Al Dhafra Al Dhafra   Total.1 Half: Total Under 1.5
win and was void
https://prnt.sc/vto52p
Coupon Id: B606833989

Correct score after 1Half  0-1


so?  please comment. why have my bets been canceled?
we can only lose here?
is this a scam project?

scam scam scam  scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam

[wildan88]

Your question:
is an arbitrage bet a fraudulent bet?

I think the answer could be yes and no. A long-time customer, who once places a bet that is lucky to fall under an arbitrage bet, will definitely not be a fraud.
what you did; in my opinion that falls under fraud. given your reaction here on the forum and refusing to answer, it seems to me that you are consciously looking for errors at a bookmaker.
Every bookmaker suffers from that.
I also see that you do not answer simple questions, probably because then you betray your own.

good dog
working off your money well!

in case you haven't noticed, now I'm talking to 5 or more people! I can’t give everyone an answer in one minute!
Wait a bit. By the way, the answer to this post has already been given.

You don't have to tell anyone how much you deposited. Can't you indicate what your balance was at the time you placed the bet? You're anonymous, so who cares?
you could also post a screenshot with how much you bet. If you keep avoiding questions, you will no longer come across as serious and credible.
It is not common that bets are canceled, but in some cases it can be justified like this one.

[JooBra]

Your question:
is an arbitrage bet a fraudulent bet?

I think the answer could be yes and no. A long-time customer, who once places a bet that is lucky to fall under an arbitrage bet, will definitely not be a fraud.
what you did; in my opinion that falls under fraud. given your reaction here on the forum and refusing to answer, it seems to me that you are consciously looking for errors at a bookmaker.
Every bookmaker suffers from that.
I also see that you do not answer simple questions, probably because then you betray your own.

good dog
working off your money well!

in case you haven't noticed, now I'm talking to 5 or more people! I can’t give everyone an answer in one minute!
Wait a bit. By the way, the answer to this post has already been given.

You don't have to tell anyone how much you deposited. Can't you indicate what your balance was at the time you placed the bet? You're anonymous, so who cares?
you could also post a screenshot with how much you bet. If you keep avoiding questions, you will no longer come across as serious and credible.
It is not common that bets are canceled, but in some cases it can be justified like this one.

Everyone can make mistakes even the bookmaker. The only way to get to the end with all this to start to be transparent from the user to the bookmaker.

[BlackFor3st]

The response from MishaYo is not normal in my view. If you have a problem with a bookmaker, and you are aware of no harm, then you do not respond like this or play hide and seek.
He does not want to respond to a simple question of how much he has deposited or what his balance was. What spyrosc200 says may indeed be true, but if that had been the case then he could have written it.
I get more of the impression that we saw someone from the arbitration group at work again. His story about the VAR is incidentally incorrect. For goals scored in a VAR match, odds are locked for some time, not all the time. I don't know how he did it, but something isn't right. I just would like to know how he did it.

[MishaYo]

a person who has at least a little brain will never make a big pot in an unknown new bookmaker!

And a person with at least a little brain would also not bet his 13.80 mbtc stake at odds from 5.25 for a goal to be scored in the last 5 minutes of the 1st half.
I think we all know what you did, and that you managed to exploit the odds.
The only question remains: How did he do it?

you know there are bookmakers who accept bets that in the grand slam final, one of the girls will forget to wear panties!
odds 500 (or more. I do not remember exactly)
what idiot would bet like that?

but bookmakers make such an offer! which means someone is betting!
what an idiot would bet that Brazil will lose 1-7. and someone bet and won huge money!

your arguments have no logic! I bet at high odds and I'm not alone. for me it's a little money! I like winning big sums!
it is my choice!
the bookmaker accepted my bet!

you can take a second away from my motive!
and talk about the fact that the bookmaker, in principle, has no right to steal the winnings like this!

[deadthings]

a person who has at least a little brain will never make a big pot in an unknown new bookmaker!

And a person with at least a little brain would also not bet his 13.80 mbtc stake at odds from 5.25 for a goal to be scored in the last 5 minutes of the 1st half.
I think we all know what you did, and that you managed to exploit the odds.
The only question remains: How did he do it?

you know there are bookmakers who accept bets that in the grand slam final, one of the girls will forget to wear panties!
odds 500 (or more. I do not remember exactly)
what idiot would bet like that?

but bookmakers make such an offer! which means someone is betting!
what an idiot would bet that Brazil will lose 1-7. and someone bet and won huge money!

your arguments have no logic! I bet at high odds and I'm not alone. for me it's a little money! I like winning big sums!
it is my choice!
the bookmaker accepted my bet!

you can take a second away from my motive!
and talk about the fact that the bookmaker, in principle, has no right to steal the winnings like this!

Why not disclose your details and tell us how much you deposited and what your balance was?
You keep revolving around those questions, that doesn't really make your story more credible.

Bookmakers can offer odds for 500 yes, but I do not think somebody will wager 200$ on it. Maybe 5 usd for fun.
And that would be really Betting.
What you did, seems to be not betting but arbing.

If you can tell u what your balance was, for example 300 then I am 100% sure that all these users who commented will change their opinion for sure.

[MishaYo]

Your question:
is an arbitrage bet a fraudulent bet?

I think the answer could be yes and no. A long-time customer, who once places a bet that is lucky to fall under an arbitrage bet, will definitely not be a fraud.
what you did; in my opinion that falls under fraud. given your reaction here on the forum and refusing to answer, it seems to me that you are consciously looking for errors at a bookmaker.
Every bookmaker suffers from that.
I also see that you do not answer simple questions, probably because then you betray your own.

good dog
working off your money well!

in case you haven't noticed, now I'm talking to 5 or more people! I can’t give everyone an answer in one minute!
Wait a bit. By the way, the answer to this post has already been given.

You don't have to tell anyone how much you deposited. Can't you indicate what your balance was at the time you placed the bet? You're anonymous, so who cares?
you could also post a screenshot with how much you bet. If you keep avoiding questions, you will no longer come across as serious and credible.
It is not common that bets are canceled, but in some cases it can be justified like this one.

ahahahha
you want to tell me that if I had 1 million dollars in my account. then my bet cannot be canceled. and vice versa. if there was no more money in my account, then my bet should definitely be canceled.
correctly???

dear child. it's very good that you learned to write. but I'll try to explain what the rules are! the rules are the same for everyone! accepted the bet - answer for it. if you refuse to pay at the rate, then you are a scam project! and if the bookmaker starts calculating bets based on the balance on the account, then this is called a DECEPTION!
 AND NO DIFFERENCE HAS ANY BALANCE IN MY ACCOUNT! be sure I have enough money... but to make a big deposit with a bookmer that has been working for 2 weeks, you need to check it first! in this case, everything points to a scam project!

[BlackFor3st]

There are many discussions about VAR goals. I think the bookmaker mainly looks at the profile of the user. And then it decides whether or not a bet will stand. Given your aggressive stance, it is quite clear that you are only out to take money from bookmakers. If you had placed your bet fairly, I'm sure they would have paid you. There are many people who have been paid and who have made this known.

And indeed, everyone tests a bookmaker in the beginning. 15 MBTC or 20MBTC would be a normal story. Then you would never bet it on odds of 5.25
Then you take a odds of 1.25, for example, and then you see if you are paid quickly. Your story is wrong.

[gadado]

@MishaYo
How much have you deposited on the site and how much have you wagered after that deposit?

Still waiting for the answer on this question to make a better judgement about the situation.
All players who have problems with all kind of bookmakers always tell how much they deposit, but this guy does not want to reveal it.