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Author Topic: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers  (Read 34886 times)
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July 08, 2022, 11:59:38 PM
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Maybe Brazil is a candidate for the 2022 world cup champion because of its better performance and also very solid than before and also running smoothly without significant obstacles in the Conmebol qualifying zone, the Selecao managed to sit at the top of the standings.
but it's not over and it hasn't started yet which I think will be a lot of surprises from other countries that we don't know much about and maybe because Brazil has a good track record and also won the most trophies, already won the World Cup five times.


I am of the opinion that Brazil is always a candidate to win the World Cup. Even if you're having a bad time. But of course you don't always win.
This year Argentina is also a candidate, and from Europe I think England will be able to do an interesting World Cup. And we can't forget about Germany, France and Spain, who are always very strong teams. Portugal, also has good players, can show something interesting.
Every team looks strong for some reason. Based on different sources, Brazil leads the opportunity to win the Cup. The odds for Germany is found high as 11/1 whereas for Brazil it sits at 5/1. Within few months we'll get to know who is going to be the Cup Holder and who's going to be the game changer. With Germany the coach is much expected to make a change.

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July 09, 2022, 10:27:37 AM
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Every team looks strong for some reason. Based on different sources, Brazil leads the opportunity to win the Cup. The odds for Germany is found high as 11/1 whereas for Brazil it sits at 5/1. Within few months we'll get to know who is going to be the Cup Holder and who's going to be the game changer. With Germany the coach is much expected to make a change.

Even Brazil is placed at 5/1, and that means that there are no strong favorites for this edition of the world cup. I am a bit surprised, because I thought that Brazil might be having a bit stronger odds. The weather conditions are also likely to favor them, as the European teams may face difficulties in getting adjusted. But after the initial round, it is all playoff games, and therefore the reluctance to provide better odds can be understood. On top of that, no one knows which teams will adjust to the Qatari conditions better.

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July 09, 2022, 12:02:48 PM
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Every team looks strong for some reason. Based on different sources, Brazil leads the opportunity to win the Cup. The odds for Germany is found high as 11/1 whereas for Brazil it sits at 5/1. Within few months we'll get to know who is going to be the Cup Holder and who's going to be the game changer. With Germany the coach is much expected to make a change.

Even Brazil is placed at 5/1, and that means that there are no strong favorites for this edition of the world cup. I am a bit surprised, because I thought that Brazil might be having a bit stronger odds. The weather conditions are also likely to favor them, as the European teams may face difficulties in getting adjusted. But after the initial round, it is all playoff games, and therefore the reluctance to provide better odds can be understood. On top of that, no one knows which teams will adjust to the Qatari conditions better.

I think it's more about the fact that this time we have more strong teams and favorites than in previous world championships.
The obvious and big favorites are Brazil and France, but right next to them are Argentina, Spain, England, and Germany.
I believe that the European teams will prepare well for this world championship, including the difficult climatic conditions, and that this will not be a decisive factor.
After all, at the world championships in South America 2010 and Brazil 2014, the world champions became European teams, right?  Cheesy

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July 09, 2022, 12:23:49 PM
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Every team looks strong for some reason. Based on different sources, Brazil leads the opportunity to win the Cup. The odds for Germany is found high as 11/1 whereas for Brazil it sits at 5/1. Within few months we'll get to know who is going to be the Cup Holder and who's going to be the game changer. With Germany the coach is much expected to make a change.

Even Brazil is placed at 5/1, and that means that there are no strong favorites for this edition of the world cup. I am a bit surprised, because I thought that Brazil might be having a bit stronger odds. The weather conditions are also likely to favor them, as the European teams may face difficulties in getting adjusted. But after the initial round, it is all playoff games, and therefore the reluctance to provide better odds can be understood. On top of that, no one knows which teams will adjust to the Qatari conditions better.

I think Brazil is the main favorite and the bookies are right about it.They have the better overall team but we have seen that teams like Germany have crashed them by winning with a tennis result against them,a thing which we have seen extremely rarely for a team like Brazil.The weather should in theory favor teams from S.Africa and some teams from S.America as they are used to hot weather but I doubt European teams will have problems with such weather either.

For me though I will place a bet on Argentina,as I think it will be the last World Cup for Messi and co so most probably they will give it all and I think they have every possibility to win the World Cup.I remember as a kid how long I cried in 1990 after Argentina losing to Germany where Klinsman scored with a penalty at that game.

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July 09, 2022, 12:59:02 PM
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Among European teams, my favourite team are France for now. Maybe we didn't watch them solid in the Nations League but it wasn't surprising. Because that tournament is seen by no more than a preparation chance for the World Cup for many big teams. France must be keeping their real strength for the World Cup. They didn't want any of their main players to get a serious injury also in the Nations League as they didn't have their full main lineup there mostly too.

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July 09, 2022, 03:20:30 PM
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Among European teams, my favourite team are France for now. Maybe we didn't watch them solid in the Nations League but it wasn't surprising. Because that tournament is seen by no more than a preparation chance for the World Cup for many big teams. France must be keeping their real strength for the World Cup. They didn't want any of their main players to get a serious injury also in the Nations League as they didn't have their full main lineup there mostly too.

Well.. I posted about this before. France do have some of the best players, but the team bonding is not that great. They have one of the most diverse teams out there. In addition to native French players, they have Arab and Berber players, as well as Sub-Saharan Africans. All this is good. But then this comes with some demerits as well. When compared to teams such as Spain and England, I would say that French players are more selfish, and in general don't like to pass around the ball much.

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July 09, 2022, 06:52:54 PM
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Among European teams, my favourite team are France for now. Maybe we didn't watch them solid in the Nations League but it wasn't surprising. Because that tournament is seen by no more than a preparation chance for the World Cup for many big teams. France must be keeping their real strength for the World Cup. They didn't want any of their main players to get a serious injury also in the Nations League as they didn't have their full main lineup there mostly too.

Well.. I posted about this before. France do have some of the best players, but the team bonding is not that great. They have one of the most diverse teams out there. In addition to native French players, they have Arab and Berber players, as well as Sub-Saharan Africans. All this is good. But then this comes with some demerits as well. When compared to teams such as Spain and England, I would say that French players are more selfish, and in general don't like to pass around the ball much.
That is the good point you have mentioned. The team bonding is the main thing needed in the team and if the players are not going along well then surely they are not going to make to final. This internal politics and likes and dislikes makes the team of break the team.

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July 09, 2022, 06:58:21 PM
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Even Brazil is placed at 5/1, and that means that there are no strong favorites for this edition of the world cup. I am a bit surprised, because I thought that Brazil might be having a bit stronger odds. The weather conditions are also likely to favor them, as the European teams may face difficulties in getting adjusted. But after the initial round, it is all playoff games, and therefore the reluctance to provide better odds can be understood. On top of that, no one knows which teams will adjust to the Qatari conditions better.
I think it's more about the fact that this time we have more strong teams and favorites than in previous world championships.
The obvious and big favorites are Brazil and France, but right next to them are Argentina, Spain, England, and Germany.
I believe that the European teams will prepare well for this world championship, including the difficult climatic conditions, and that this will not be a decisive factor.
After all, at the world championships in South America 2010 and Brazil 2014, the world champions became European teams, right?  Cheesy
Surely in last few years we have improved quality in European teams and their performance is also having big impact on this World Cup with some good number of teams are going to be serious contender with only two teams from other regions which is great thing for them.

France, Spain, England and Germany are very good teams with few amazing players but from these teams France and Spain are the most dynamic teams which can perform in good way, and we can watch ruthless results.

Brazil and Argentina both are regular teams from this continent with few others also having good players, but they have no depth like these two to give tough challenge, and they can bring some shocking results in this world cup, this only can happen from European teams as these are having good advantage with them.

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That is the good point you have mentioned. The team bonding is the main thing needed in the team and if the players are not going along well then surely they are not going to make to final. This internal politics and likes and dislikes makes the team of break the team.

That was the point made by Veronique Rabiot (mother of Adrien Rabiot). She was claiming that Paul Pogba is too selfish and he doesn't pass around the ball to other players. Kylian Mbappe got embroiled in to the controversy as well. A few days later, Emmanuel Petit (part of the French squad that won the 1998 world cup) also came up with a similar observation and slammed Pogba. And then there were some issues between Mbappe and Giroud. Anyway, all this happened a few months ago and I really hope that the team is in much better shape now.

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Among the European teams, the Netherlands is at a very high level in my opinion. It plays well in France and Spain. I know that Argentina and Brazil are the best teams in Latin America, but the teams they face may not be as strong as the European teams. That's why Brazil and Argentina are strong but very favourites. So they can experience the same thing again.

I definitely don't agree with you when you claim that the opponents Brazil and Argentina face within their confederation may not be as strong as the ones Netherlands and Germany face within theirs. Who is the weakest team in CONMEBOL? Maybe Bolivia or Venezuela? Even these teams are capable of defeating Germany or France on their day. On the other hand, who are the weakest teams in UEFA? That honor may go to small teams such as Gibraltar and Andorra. Can these teams defeat Brazil or Argentina? Such a scenario is not possible even in the wildest dreams.

It is not correct to index according to the weakest team. I think European teams are stronger than South or North American teams.  Imagine Argentina and Brazil not in South America. Could another team be the favourite?  I do not think so. In Europe, there are many teams that can be nominated. The subject I mentioned and the example you gave are different.

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It is not correct to index according to the weakest team. I think European teams are stronger than South or North American teams.  Imagine Argentina and Brazil not in South America. Could another team be the favourite?  I do not think so. In Europe, there are many teams that can be nominated. The subject I mentioned and the example you gave are different.

That is not the way to think about it. CONMEBOL is made up of a total of 10 teams. Out of that 20% (i.e Argentina and Brazil) are among the favorites to win this world cup. On the other hand, UEFA is made of 55 teams. Out of these teams, less than 10% can be considered among the favorites. Maybe England, France, Germany, Belgium and Spain. I don't think that teams such as Portugal, Netherlands and Sweden have the capability to win the world cup. And then Italy didn't even managed to qualify.

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July 10, 2022, 06:23:38 AM
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It is not correct to index according to the weakest team. I think European teams are stronger than South or North American teams.  Imagine Argentina and Brazil not in South America. Could another team be the favourite?  I do not think so. In Europe, there are many teams that can be nominated. The subject I mentioned and the example you gave are different.

That is not the way to think about it. CONMEBOL is made up of a total of 10 teams. Out of that 20% (i.e Argentina and Brazil) are among the favorites to win this world cup. On the other hand, UEFA is made of 55 teams. Out of these teams, less than 10% can be considered among the favorites. Maybe England, France, Germany, Belgium and Spain. I don't think that teams such as Portugal, Netherlands and Sweden have the capability to win the world cup. And then Italy didn't even managed to qualify.

So if in CONMEBOL only two teams have the potential to win the world cup, and UEFA has 4 or 5, it means that Europe has more winning capacity than South America.
So it makes no sense to say that CONMEBOL has more difficult teams than UEFA. They are very different areas, and one has a lot more teams than others. There are more difficult qualification groups than others in Europe.

For example, Brazil has never missed a World Cup. On the other hand, big countries and even World Cup winners, such as Italy, Germany and Spain, have already failed the World Cup. That means that they had difficulties in qualifying, because they certainly caught difficult teams.

European football is different from the American South, they are different styles. Making this comparison is a little difficult.

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July 10, 2022, 11:48:29 AM
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So if in CONMEBOL only two teams have the potential to win the world cup, and UEFA has 4 or 5, it means that Europe has more winning capacity than South America.
So it makes no sense to say that CONMEBOL has more difficult teams than UEFA. They are very different areas, and one has a lot more teams than others. There are more difficult qualification groups than others in Europe.

For example, Brazil has never missed a World Cup. On the other hand, big countries and even World Cup winners, such as Italy, Germany and Spain, have already failed the World Cup. That means that they had difficulties in qualifying, because they certainly caught difficult teams.

European football is different from the American South, they are different styles. Making this comparison is a little difficult.
I agree here with all statement because we all know how tough is UEFA regarding in quality and many teams are having challenges which bring them down-and-out like we already have Italy is missing world cup second time in a row with few quality teams are coming, and they are having potential to give shocking results in world cup as well.

In CONMEBOL, we mostly have same teams at top and very few teams coming from down because big difference in quality and domestic set up which is having big advantage for few teams like Brazil and Argentina Uruguay was good few decades back, but now they are also not able to have their seat in World Cup because of poor quality and Columbia was also good, but recently they are also down and out.

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July 10, 2022, 12:19:13 PM
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Among the European teams, the Netherlands is at a very high level in my opinion. It plays well in France and Spain. I know that Argentina and Brazil are the best teams in Latin America, but the teams they face may not be as strong as the European teams. That's why Brazil and Argentina are strong but very favourites. So they can experience the same thing again.

I definitely don't agree with you when you claim that the opponents Brazil and Argentina face within their confederation may not be as strong as the ones Netherlands and Germany face within theirs. Who is the weakest team in CONMEBOL? Maybe Bolivia or Venezuela? Even these teams are capable of defeating Germany or France on their day. On the other hand, who are the weakest teams in UEFA? That honor may go to small teams such as Gibraltar and Andorra. Can these teams defeat Brazil or Argentina? Such a scenario is not possible even in the wildest dreams.

It is not correct to index according to the weakest team. I think European teams are stronger than South or North American teams.  Imagine Argentina and Brazil not in South America. Could another team be the favourite?  I do not think so. In Europe, there are many teams that can be nominated. The subject I mentioned and the example you gave are different.

There are other strong teams in South America, such as Uruguay, which was twice the world champion and played in the semi-finals of the 2010 World Cup.
It is true that Europe has more quality national teams, but the main reason for this is that Europe has many more countries than South America.
And some other South American national teams were also very difficult opponents of the European national teams at the previous world championships, like Chile or Paraguay, as far as I remember.
We will see who will be more successful at this world championship in Qatar, European or South American teams  Cheesy

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July 10, 2022, 06:22:11 PM
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There are other strong teams in South America, such as Uruguay, which was twice the world champion and played in the semi-finals of the 2010 World Cup.
It is true that Europe has more quality national teams, but the main reason for this is that Europe has many more countries than South America.
And some other South American national teams were also very difficult opponents of the European national teams at the previous world championships, like Chile or Paraguay, as far as I remember.
We will see who will be more successful at this world championship in Qatar, European or South American teams  Cheesy
I do not believe even Brazil and Argentina, let alone Uruguay. This is why I do not think that any of them would do anything to win it. Why I believe that? I do not know if this is wrong or not, but I feel like those teams do not have the seriousness when they are playing to make this work, like they play with more talent and fun then anything else, and they lack the discipline required to be a winner of a tournament when playing with other continents.

Maybe I am wrong, but if you look at it, last time a team from South America won, was 2002 Brazil, it has been 20 years, ever since then it has been just one more finalist, and all others were European.

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July 11, 2022, 10:18:38 AM
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That is the good point you have mentioned. The team bonding is the main thing needed in the team and if the players are not going along well then surely they are not going to make to final. This internal politics and likes and dislikes makes the team of break the team.

That was the point made by Veronique Rabiot (mother of Adrien Rabiot). She was claiming that Paul Pogba is too selfish and he doesn't pass around the ball to other players. Kylian Mbappe got embroiled in to the controversy as well. A few days later, Emmanuel Petit (part of the French squad that won the 1998 world cup) also came up with a similar observation and slammed Pogba. And then there were some issues between Mbappe and Giroud. Anyway, all this happened a few months ago and I really hope that the team is in much better shape now.
The football and obviously all the team games are about team, if there is a team politics then it will be clearly shown from the team performance. It is also said that criticism is healthy if taken right way!
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July 11, 2022, 12:04:19 PM
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The football and obviously all the team games are about team, if there is a team politics then it will be clearly shown from the team performance. It is also said that criticism is healthy if taken right way!
Jealous is good to progress - but extreme jealous/ envoy is not good.
There are many things around this game in globe because we have many stars, and they have different ways of play, but here Veronique Rabiot (mother of Adrien Rabiot) is pointing out a good point which is already having from few other players as well in club games. Just because of him we watch, there were no good results in Manchester United because he has never done positive work with his other colleagues which are important in the game.

Team politics is completely different thing but here we are talking about a player who is very impressive but fail to give his best at crucial games. He needs to listen about few things which can improve his game and better environment in team.

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July 11, 2022, 09:52:29 PM
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There are other strong teams in South America, such as Uruguay, which was twice the world champion and played in the semi-finals of the 2010 World Cup.
It is true that Europe has more quality national teams, but the main reason for this is that Europe has many more countries than South America.
And some other South American national teams were also very difficult opponents of the European national teams at the previous world championships, like Chile or Paraguay, as far as I remember.
We will see who will be more successful at this world championship in Qatar, European or South American teams  Cheesy
I do not believe even Brazil and Argentina, let alone Uruguay. This is why I do not think that any of them would do anything to win it. Why I believe that? I do not know if this is wrong or not, but I feel like those teams do not have the seriousness when they are playing to make this work, like they play with more talent and fun then anything else, and they lack the discipline required to be a winner of a tournament when playing with other continents.
Maybe I am wrong, but if you look at it, last time a team from South America won, was 2002 Brazil, it has been 20 years, ever since then it has been just one more finalist, and all others were European.

I also don’t know why everyone is so obsessed with Argentina and Brazil. There are other teams in South America. But I do have high hopes from both Argentina and Brazil in this World Cup. You know that this was the last World Cup for both Messi and Neymar. So, I am hoping to see something special from both of these teams.
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July 11, 2022, 10:37:56 PM
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The football and obviously all the team games are about team, if there is a team politics then it will be clearly shown from the team performance. It is also said that criticism is healthy if taken right way!
Jealous is good to progress - but extreme jealous/ envoy is not good.
There are many things around this game in globe because we have many stars, and they have different ways of play, but here Veronique Rabiot (mother of Adrien Rabiot) is pointing out a good point which is already having from few other players as well in club games. Just because of him we watch, there were no good results in Manchester United because he has never done positive work with his other colleagues which are important in the game.
Team politics is completely different thing but here we are talking about a player who is very impressive but fail to give his best at crucial games. He needs to listen about few things which can improve his game and better environment in team.

The only conclusion seems to be that he is not a very good team player. Otherwise, he would be able to do much better. And he really cracks under pressure. I feel like when he is under pressure he is unable to work as a teammate and he goes for more solo plays which end up not working in favor of him. He is obviously an impressive player but if he is able to hold his composure under difficult situations he will be able to provide a lot more for his team and he will end up being a lot more reliable player for his team as well.

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July 11, 2022, 11:12:53 PM
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I also don’t know why everyone is so obsessed with Argentina and Brazil. There are other teams in South America. But I do have high hopes from both Argentina and Brazil in this World Cup. You know that this was the last World Cup for both Messi and Neymar. So, I am hoping to see something special from both of these teams.
The world cup is always a spectacular watch and this one promises to be even more beautiful with the the nation haven't put all in place and we seeing the exit of some of the top players in the likes of Messi and Ronaldo whom are sure to put in there best to make their last impact in the game remarkable. We would also be seeing the ushering in of some new talents that would seize the opportunity to carve a name for themselves in the history of the game.

The only conclusion seems to be that he is not a very good team player. Otherwise, he would be able to do much better. And he really cracks under pressure. I feel like when he is under pressure he is unable to work as a teammate and he goes for more solo plays which end up not working in favor of him. He is obviously an impressive player but if he is able to hold his composure under difficult situations he will be able to provide a lot more for his team and he will end up being a lot more reliable player for his team as well.
That's why we've got coaches on the sideline to monitor and make necessary changes to the game. It's no doubt that this form of behaviour often comes up on lead players who suddenly feel that they could do it alone when the pressure is mounted on the team and lots of lots balls or off-target shots and passes result. I see that even in CR7 when his goal hungry and the team is battling battling lose. Its a hard take but, wanting to do it alone is the worst kind of strategy at points like that.



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