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On a side note, if an American is unemployed still after nearly one year of COVID 19, isn't that their fault for being a moron?
Why are you limiting the problem to just Americans? |
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February 03, 2021, 01:38:06 AM |
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On a side note, if an American is unemployed still after nearly one year of COVID 19, isn't that their fault for being a moron?
Yep, totally their fault for being a moron, or perhaps for having kids, being older, being immunocompromised, or unable to get from driving Uber into one of those cushy remote jobs within a year (WTF is up with all that college degree nonsense). How many people do you think exist out there are legitimately stuck and cannot under any circumstance find any work? There are jobs created for low skilled workers but nobody is going to bother to work them with 400 bucks in supplemental unemployment insurance. If you actually can't work for a legitimate reason, then there's an argument to be made that you should get a bit of government help. With how wasteful the US government is it seems the unemployment insurance boost is for everyone. Correct me if I'm wrong. On a side note, if an American is unemployed still after nearly one year of COVID 19, isn't that their fault for being a moron?
Why are you limiting the problem to just Americans? No reason in particular. I know very well those in the EU are suffering too. And surely those in the pacific. I mention Americans only because of the 1.9 trillion spending bill that democrats passed. |
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February 03, 2021, 01:58:55 AM |
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How many people do you think exist out there are legitimately stuck and cannot under any circumstance find any work? There are jobs created for low skilled workers but nobody is going to bother to work them with 400 bucks in supplemental unemployment insurance. If you actually can't work for a legitimate reason, then there's an argument to be made that you should get a bit of government help. With how wasteful the US government is it seems the unemployment insurance boost is for everyone. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't know how many are there. I just take issue with calling them morons, as well as now putting them all into the "low skilled" bucket, because I know a few personally who got screwed quite badly - for health reasons, unable to find work with they education/experience, etc. Ideally yes, I would want the boost only for those who really need it. That still doesn't make them morons IMO. |
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February 03, 2021, 02:21:43 AM |
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How many people do you think exist out there are legitimately stuck and cannot under any circumstance find any work? There are jobs created for low skilled workers but nobody is going to bother to work them with 400 bucks in supplemental unemployment insurance. If you actually can't work for a legitimate reason, then there's an argument to be made that you should get a bit of government help. With how wasteful the US government is it seems the unemployment insurance boost is for everyone. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't know how many are there. I just take issue with calling them morons, as well as now putting them all into the "low skilled" bucket, because I know a few personally who got screwed quite badly - for health reasons, unable to find work with they education/experience, etc. Ideally yes, I would want the boost only for those who really need it. That still doesn't make them morons IMO. I consider those who mooch off the government instead of working morons, or lazy. People who have legitimate reasons for being unable to work, example being elderly or no jobs open due to lockdowns are obviously exceptions. If you're a retail worker, it's not your fault that COVID came in and shut down your job because of government lockdowns. On the other hand, if you depended on the government to cut you a check instead of actively looking for work, I don't have any sympathy and it is a very dumb gamble to leave your life situation up to government. Again, obviously there are exceptions which is who the money needs to be targeted to. 2k checks and unemployment supplements for everyone is not a good idea. |
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February 03, 2021, 06:04:02 AM |
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If you're a retail worker, it's not your fault that COVID came in and shut down your job because of government lockdowns.
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It's the fault of Chinese, and the people who don't want to wear masks, social distance, and resist their vaccines gene therapy trials. These are the people who are putting us in danger. They need to be punished and forced into government compliance before they can harm us even more. It's obviously just self-defense, and the government needs more and better tools to help protect us more. I'm very glad we have a government which has been able to protect us through their wisdom and foresight. A brilliant strategy such as wearing TWO masks, one on top of the other, proves that we have had the right man in Tony Fausti at the helm the whole time. He just needs another few weeks to flatten the curve...and the 99% to get their jabs...then we'll be back to normal. For sure this time. |
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Tsho Bidet the president with most votes, competent, such math much wisdom very coo coo https://youtu.be/KY6Sca16tko ......................
this new cold war that we may be entering.
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February 03, 2021, 06:41:12 PM |
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If you're a retail worker, it's not your fault that COVID came in and shut down your job because of government lockdowns.
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It's the fault of Chinese, and the people who don't want to wear masks, social distance, and resist their vaccines gene therapy trials. These are the people who are putting us in danger. They need to be punished and forced into government compliance before they can harm us even more. It's obviously just self-defense, and the government needs more and better tools to help protect us more. I'm very glad we have a government which has been able to protect us through their wisdom and foresight. A brilliant strategy such as wearing TWO masks, one on top of the other, proves that we have had the right man in Tony Fausti at the helm the whole time. He just needs another few weeks to flatten the curve...and the 99% to get their jabs...then we'll be back to normal. For sure this time. Totally agree with this. Depends on what you mean by forced, but fining people for putting others healthes in jeopardy during a crisis situation sounds fair enough with me. I really don’t understand some people saying things like - ‘damn they’ll make more on unemployment so obviously they don’t want to go back to work’ - That’s just not how unemployment works. If you’re called back to go to work, then you’re going to have to go back to work or you risk losing future unemployment benefits. This entire situation is so out of regular workers control that it makes zero sense to blame them. Blame congress for giving banks billions in PPP fees while screwing businesses. Blame China for trying to hide Covid from the public and warning people too late. Blame anti maskers who continue to go out and disregard the rules. But DONT blame individual workers for losing their jobs for something that is crazily out of their control. |
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Totally agree with this. ... That's sad. Not surprising; just sad. I have a pretty good understanding of how people work. I borrowed the basic ideas from my knowledge of Joseph Gobbel's theories and practices and how the Nazi party motivated the German people both on their acquisition of power and maintenance of it. Of course he didn't invent them. The basic form of this propaganda is as old as civilization and governance. |
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February 03, 2021, 08:19:50 PM |
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To busy plugging 'Jews' into practically every cabinet position available I guess.
5 Jews 5 whole jews you say? My god, they're taking over. |
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5 whole jews you say? My god, they're taking over. The particularly nasty ones often pass themselves off as something else. Often 'Catholic', and when so usually of the 'Jesuit' variety. Some say that that sect was created by and for 'conversios'. I wouldn't pretend to know. Anyway, let's say it is true and my source (the Jerusalem Post IIRC) is all washed up. Even 5/18 is a pretty high ratio when one considers that Jews are supposedly 2% of the population. That's 1/50 for the mathematically challenged. Must the the superior intelligence that they go on about perhaps? I'm sure it has nothing to do with influence from the financial sector and Jewish lobbying groups or anything like that. |
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5 whole jews you say? My god, they're taking over. The particularly nasty ones often pass themselves off as something else. Often 'Catholic', and when so usually of the 'Jesuit' variety. Some say that that sect was created by and for 'conversios'. I wouldn't pretend to know. Anyway, let's say it is true and my source (the Jerusalem Post IIRC) is all washed up. Even 5/18 is a pretty high ratio when one considers that Jews are supposedly 2% of the population. That's 1/50 for the mathematically challenged. Must the the superior intelligence that they go on about perhaps? I'm sure it has nothing to do with influence from the financial sector and Jewish lobbying groups or anything like that. I can assure you that Biden is not going to be as friendly to Israel as Trump was if you're worried about pro Jewish lobbying groups. Biden was clear about reopening negotiations with Palestinians and within his own party are antisemites like Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar. I wouldn't be too concerned. |
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February 03, 2021, 09:11:35 PM |
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5 whole jews you say? My god, they're taking over. The particularly nasty ones often pass themselves off as something else. Often 'Catholic', and when so usually of the 'Jesuit' variety. Some say that that sect was created by and for 'conversios'. I wouldn't pretend to know. Anyway, let's say it is true and my source (the Jerusalem Post IIRC) is all washed up. Even 5/18 is a pretty high ratio when one considers that Jews are supposedly 2% of the population. That's 1/50 for the mathematically challenged. Must the the superior intelligence that they go on about perhaps? I'm sure it has nothing to do with influence from the financial sector and Jewish lobbying groups or anything like that. I can assure you that Biden is not going to be as friendly to Israel as Trump was if you're worried about pro Jewish lobbying groups. Biden was clear about reopening negotiations with Palestinians and within his own party are antisemites like Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar. I wouldn't be too concerned. I'm guessing he won't be too pleased with Biden being friendly with Muslims either. |
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February 03, 2021, 09:16:20 PM |
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I can assure you that Biden is not going to be as friendly to Israel as Trump was if you're worried about pro Jewish lobbying groups. Biden was clear about reopening negotiations with Palestinians and within his own party are antisemites like Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar. I wouldn't be too concerned.
Not as Israel-first as Trump? Um...that's not...exactly...a compelling endorsement. Biden is so incredibly filthy that the chances of the Israelis not having a ton of dirt on him are nill. Nobody could get the U.S. presidency unless he was owned by the chosen, but Biden is surely over-qualified in this respect. If the Israeli's told him to bomb Iran it would happen within hours. And it well might. |
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President no-one listens to, well Chrissy Teigen does maybe thats enough followers for him Biden probably won't be tweeting anything important involving the Military without discussing it with the Military first. That was a Trump thing. |
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President no-one listens to, well Chrissy Teigen does maybe thats enough followers for him Biden probably won't be tweeting anything important involving the Military without discussing it with the Military first. That was a Trump thing. LOL. That's hilarious. I'd be perfectly happy if presidents never tweeted again. |
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President no-one listens to, well Chrissy Teigen does maybe thats enough followers for him Biden probably won't be tweeting anything important involving the Military without discussing it with the Military first. That was a Trump thing. LOL. That's hilarious. I'd be perfectly happy if presidents never tweeted again. By looks of things he wont tweet again. |
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February 04, 2021, 10:52:59 AM |
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President no-one listens to, well Chrissy Teigen does maybe thats enough followers for him Biden probably won't be tweeting anything important involving the Military without discussing it with the Military first. That was a Trump thing. LOL. That's hilarious. I'd be perfectly happy if presidents never tweeted again. Buy looks of things he wont tweet again. How much? |
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February 04, 2021, 11:13:09 AM |
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President no-one listens to, well Chrissy Teigen does maybe thats enough followers for him Biden probably won't be tweeting anything important involving the Military without discussing it with the Military first. That was a Trump thing. LOL. That's hilarious. I'd be perfectly happy if presidents never tweeted again. Buy looks of things he wont tweet again. How much? Ok ok Lots of things happening, only someone twitchy would worry about such trivial things |
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