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This is why I'm against respirations. You go down the list, and you will find tons of groups who were oppressed over the years. Native American genocide seems to not be talked about enough if we're going to have a discussion on the historically oppressed. And the question is, is there a "statute of limitations". At what point do you step back and realize that atrocities happened so long ago in the past that it isn't feasible to compensate decedents of those who were oppressed? And reparations for black people would just create more turmoil between races. Hispanics have a lower median income than white people and Asians in the US. If you start cutting checks to black people, will there not be animosity by white people Asians? I'd rather have a UBI than reparations, because at least you aren't discriminating on basis of race.
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March 03, 2021, 05:34:08 PM |
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This is why I'm against respirations.
Yeah you made it clear during the George Floyd events. Such audacity to demand respiration, can't have that.
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I'd rather have a UBI than reparations, because at least you aren't discriminating on basis of race.
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March 03, 2021, 06:17:35 PM Last edit: March 03, 2021, 06:45:52 PM by Tash |
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........ I'd rather have a UBI ..
LOL pigs have that too. Roof over the head, free meal, free vaccinations and good company/comradery what more could anyone what, a dream come true.
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March 03, 2021, 06:32:04 PM |
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This is why I'm against respirations.
Yeah you made it clear during the George Floyd events. Such audacity to demand respiration, can't have that. If you have a solution to reparations , I'm all ears. Again, how do you determine who gets it? How do you determine who was impacted directly by slavery, and how do you determine the stipend? Is it a check, a tax deduction? Do people like Kamala Harris get them? And then what about Native Americans, who have a lower median income than black people? Do they get reparations as well? There's literally no way you could feasibly implement this. And by the way, I'm agreeing with Bernie Sanders here, which I'd never thought I'd say - https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/1/18246394/bernie-sanders-reparations-slavery-2020-harris-booker-warrenI'd rather have a UBI than reparations, because at least you aren't discriminating on basis of race.
wtf? Reparations for slavery: Giving African Americans money for atrocities no one alive has committed. Does this mean Native Americans are now being discriminated against because their land was stolen and you're not giving them any money? Yes, absolutely. Native Americans were given petty sums of money for genocide and I'm pretty sure not every Native American alive today has reaped all the benefits either. UBI, everyone gets a stipend, no matter your skin color. Is it fair? Yes. Why is that a hard concept to grasp? That's not even remotely controversial.
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March 03, 2021, 07:07:16 PM |
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If you have a solution to reparations , I'm all ears.
I would not pay individuals but instead try to fix systemic racism and discrimination in housing, education, employment, voting etc, because any potential positive effects of monetary payments would be nullified by that. Neither is happening so it's a pointless discussion. Hopefully I'll live to see the day when the concept of discrimination is no longer a political issue but I'm not gonna hold my breath because that's bad for my respiration.
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If you have a solution to reparations , I'm all ears.
I would not pay individuals but instead try to fix systemic racism and discrimination in housing, education, employment, voting etc, because any potential positive effects of monetary payments would be nullified by that. Neither is happening so it's a pointless discussion. Hopefully I'll live to see the day when the concept of discrimination is no longer a political issue but I'm not gonna hold my breath because that's bad for my respiration. I agree with this, mostly. The best way to lift black people up and raise their median income, lower crime rates, and all the rest, is education. Affirmative action is something I flip flop on because it negatively impacts Asians (discrimination within itself), but it also promotes education among black people, and education is the highest indicator of income level, so it depends on the angle. There might be some sort of median (for example, scholarships for black people based on family income, perhaps government subsidized aid) but there's still a lot up for debate. I think the US government gives this out already through the FASFA aid program but I don't know if that takes race/socioeconomic background into account. Point being, focus on education within the black community, and then you begin to see change. Writing a direct check out is a terrible idea.
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March 03, 2021, 10:10:56 PM |
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There's something bothering my mind guys about Joe Biden's presidentship and I will be happy if someone can explain it to me better. I saw a video on Instagram today showing the GOYA CEO (Robert Unanue) saying in his opinion Donald Trump is the real, "legitimate, and still actual President of United State" Why did he said so?
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There's something bothering my mind guys about Joe Biden's presidentship and I will be happy if someone can explain it to me better. I saw a video on Instagram today showing the GOYA CEO (Robert Unanue) saying in his opinion Donald Trump is the real, "legitimate, and still actual President of United State" Why did he said so? If you know as little as you seem to want us to think, I would suggest doing your own research before coming to a place like this for answers. Apologies if you're being genuine, although I would still stand by my advice, but this just feels like you're baiting.
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There's something bothering my mind guys about Joe Biden's presidentship and I will be happy if someone can explain it to me better. I saw a video on Instagram today showing the GOYA CEO (Robert Unanue) saying in his opinion Donald Trump is the real, "legitimate, and still actual President of United State" Why did he said so? If you know as little as you seem to want us to think, I would suggest doing your own research before coming to a place like this for answers. Basically, the answer is that because the election was done using cyber-warfare from outside the USA, we were at war during the election. The military is in control, without the president, because that it was an election war. They (the military) have until the end of this month to decide to let Biden remain, or to redo the vote process. What will happen if they don't decide, remains to be seen. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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March 04, 2021, 12:36:55 AM |
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How would reparations even work? Do you submit a blood test to see if you're enough of a certain race for the payment, or is there a sliding payment scale based on how much of a certain race you have in your genes? Maybe it's just if you identify as a certain race then you get the payout? Where do these funds come from? If it's the taxpayer that funds it, then can we get a tax deduction if our ancestors immigrated here after the civil war?
Instead, how about we stop bombing other countries and maybe take a fresh approach to not doing horrible things to the people outside of the US. Could be a step in the right direction.
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March 04, 2021, 02:49:55 AM |
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How would reparations even work? Do you submit a blood test to see if you're enough of a certain race for the payment, or is there a sliding payment scale based on how much of a certain race you have in your genes? Maybe it's just if you identify as a certain race then you get the payout? Where do these funds come from? If it's the taxpayer that funds it, then can we get a tax deduction if our ancestors immigrated here after the civil war?
Instead, how about we stop bombing other countries and maybe take a fresh approach to not doing horrible things to the people outside of the US. Could be a step in the right direction.
There are tons of proposals - seems like the most popular ones are centered around policies and programs that directly address systemic racism over direct cash payments. It's really complicated obviously, which is why the first step has to be putting together a bunch of economic nerds to figure out what's possible and most effective. Here's a decent, although slightly dated, article that walks through some possible options: What Reparations for Slavery Might Look Like in 2019
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If you have a solution to reparations , I'm all ears.
I would not pay individuals but instead try to fix systemic racism and discrimination in housing, education, employment, voting etc, because any potential positive effects of monetary payments would be nullified by that. Neither is happening so it's a pointless discussion. Hopefully I'll live to see the day when the concept of discrimination is no longer a political issue but I'm not gonna hold my breath because that's bad for my respiration. In modern human society there is no place for discrimination based on race or ethnicity, so I would agree. If such discrimination exists, then the government should take steps to eradicate it. But there is no need to link this with repatriation. What the racial minorities in the United States need right now is affordable healthcare/education/housing and not monetary handouts based on race.
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If you have a solution to reparations , I'm all ears.
I would not pay individuals but instead try to fix systemic racism and discrimination in housing, education, employment, voting etc, because any potential positive effects of monetary payments would be nullified by that. Neither is happening so it's a pointless discussion. Hopefully I'll live to see the day when the concept of discrimination is no longer a political issue but I'm not gonna hold my breath because that's bad for my respiration. In modern human society there is no place for discrimination based on race or ethnicity, so I would agree. If such discrimination exists, then the government should take steps to eradicate it. But there is no need to link this with repatriation. What the racial minorities in the United States need right now is affordable healthcare/education/housing and not monetary handouts based on race. Reparations could come in the form of healthcare/education/housing. They aren't necessarily cash payments.
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Reparations could come in the form of healthcare/education/housing. They aren't necessarily cash payments.
It is not logical to provide healthcare or education based on the skin color. Let's assume that the government want to improve the healthcare facility in a predominantly African-American neighborhood. Let's assume that 80% of the population is African American, 10% is white and 10% is Hispanic. The government constructs new healthcare/educational facilities. Are you saying that these facilities should be open only to the 80% African American population? If that is the idea about repatriation, then it is plain wrong. I would instead extend these facilities to the remaining 20% as well. But in the second scenario, it won't be called as repatriation.
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March 04, 2021, 04:13:45 PM |
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There's something bothering my mind guys about Joe Biden's presidentship and I will be happy if someone can explain it to me better. I saw a video on Instagram today showing the GOYA CEO (Robert Unanue) saying in his opinion Donald Trump is the real, "legitimate, and still actual President of United State" Why did he said so? Basically, the answer is that because the election was done using cyber-warfare from outside the USA, we were at war during the election. The military is in control, without the president, because that it was an election war. They (the military) have until the end of this month to decide to let Biden remain, or to redo the vote process. What will happen if they don't decide, remains to be seen. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Thanks for your respond and this does explained the reason behind his statement about Trump to still the President of the United State but the election done using outside US cyber-ware and the military etc or not Trump still dont have the capacity to win that election from my own view.
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Reparations could come in the form of healthcare/education/housing. They aren't necessarily cash payments.
It is not logical to provide healthcare or education based on the skin color. I don't think it would be based on skin color since not all black Americans have slaves in their family history. For example, Obama wouldn't qualify under the proposals I've seen, since neither of his parents have any connection with anyone in the country when Slavery was legal. (his father was born in East Africa and Mother Hawaii).
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Reparations could come in the form of healthcare/education/housing. They aren't necessarily cash payments.
It is not logical to provide healthcare or education based on the skin color. I don't think it would be based on skin color since not all black Americans have slaves in their family history. For example, Obama wouldn't qualify under the proposals I've seen, since neither of his parents have any connection with anyone in the country when Slavery was legal. (his father was born in East Africa and Mother Hawaii). Reparations today are an all-around bad idea. First of all, there were over 750k Americans who died in the Civil War that was fought for the underlying purpose to end slavery. Secondly, anyone not on the receiving end of reparations had nothing to do with slavery, and their current financial status has nothing to do with slavery. Third, the descendants of slaves current often poor financial situation has less to do with their ancestors status as slaves, and more to do with their current voting choices.
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