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March 17, 2021, 04:27:59 PM
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I can’t say it’s pure fate but I think it’s more of strategies and skills because if you know the strategy of the game then you’ll definitely win most of the time. The lack of control though is within you, either you get greedy and play more to get more wins or you stop at a certain amount of wins and just be contented.
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March 17, 2021, 05:29:03 PM
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I can’t say it’s pure fate but I think it’s more of strategies and skills because if you know the strategy of the game then you’ll definitely win most of the time.

If you have established a working system and you see the advantages then surely you'll win most of the time, but most of the time it's being responsible that leads you walk out with decent amount of winning, knowing when to stop is really matter whenver you are inside gambling.

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The lack of control though is within you, either you get greedy and play more to get more wins or you stop at a certain amount of wins and just be contented.

Setting it up and be cnotented is a powerful tool while you are engage to this activities, instead of being greedy accepting small winnings is  good enough as chances of losing it back together with your bankroll is very high.

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March 17, 2021, 05:44:02 PM
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I can’t say it’s pure fate but I think it’s more of strategies and skills because if you know the strategy of the game then you’ll definitely win most of the time. The lack of control though is within you, either you get greedy and play more to get more wins or you stop at a certain amount of wins and just be contented.
Lack of control had ruined many gambler this has nothing to do with fate a lot of gamblers in a bid to win back some streak of losses continue to gamble uncontrolled until they rekted their account, this is an act of self destruct, a gambler is expected to have a strategy and stick to the rules with discipline with money management many gamblers could not control their emotions when gambling then attributes their losses to fate which is absolutely untrue.

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March 18, 2021, 03:26:57 AM
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~snip~

it's the thought that we'd win more money after winning a little that makes us lose. but it's all combination of all, you are just unlucky and do not know when to stop.
there are gamblers who won huge amounts to one casino and then move to another casino to try the same strategy to another casino, this is almost like not stopping while winning. gambling is risky enough but pushing it harder will result in a different thing.

When you do not know when to stop, it will not makes you win. You will find it hard to recover your initial money because the casino will only get your money. If a gambler can win huge amounts in one casino and move to another casino, that will not guarantee a win because they can not use the same strategy in different casinos. Perhaps, they need to change the strategy, but we don't know if that can work once again, so you need to be careful and always remember that playing gambling can make you lose all of the money.

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March 19, 2021, 03:09:17 AM
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That is the only logical explanation, we know that over the long term thanks to the house edge the casino is going to win more than the player, and personally I don't have any problem with that because casinos are a business and they need to win money, the problem is that some people have lack of control and once they lose an amount of money that they did not expect to lose they keep betting trying to get it back only to lose even more money in the process.

I am amazed by you, because you can understand that it doesn't matter the casino will win more than gamblers, because that's how casinos do
business. Even though your way of thinking is the right thing, but usually most people don't accept that in the end the casino will win more.
From the very beginning the casino system was created to make money for the owner. So don't expect us to beat the casino, therefore gamblers
must be able to control their emotions when playing gambling. If we have lost quite a lot, immediately stop playing gambling. Because if it continues,
it will suffer even greater losses. We as gamblers must be able to control ourselves, when to stop playing gambling. With that we can survive
in the world of gambling.

I like to gamble but that does not mean that I do not see a casino for what it is which is a business, a casino is no different than any other business that offers entertainment as their main service, the difference is that instead of a fixed cost each player can decide how little or how much they want to spend at the casino, so if a player losses a fortune then that is on them since many cryptocurrency casinos allow you to play their games with amounts of money that are very small.
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March 19, 2021, 05:16:53 AM
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There's no fate, it's all math!
Your words were highly catchy I couldn't stop myself quoting them and replying you back.
Are you a self-made millionaire or may be billionaire?
If it is all a game of math, you must be a scholar in it who knows how to 'count' the cards and win in all types of casino games? I doubt you have ever lost even once in your life.  Roll Eyes
Haha, it is a mixture of fate and chances. By "all maths" he didn't mean that one who can count cards will always win. He meant that because of the edge casinos get against players, chances are players will lose because the house has 2 advantages, bigger bankroll than players and the edge.

if he wins, he can praise himself or just tell that it is his day and it's just a full luck and fate made him feel good at the day of winning. Whatever you call it, as long as you're gambling responsibly and you're not blaming your losses with anyone with whatever strategy you're coming up.
Strategies player makes are the funniest thing to me. You can make any strategy and win/lose because the chances of winning and losing each bet is separate and isolated. If you have lost 1 million bets in a row or lost the last bet only, the chances of winning/losing the next bet are again reset and isolated from other results in past.

Call it math when you lose and fate when you win. But don't lose too much and have control over your addiction.

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March 19, 2021, 07:48:05 AM
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I can’t say it’s pure fate but I think it’s more of strategies and skills because if you know the strategy of the game then you’ll definitely win most of the time. The lack of control though is within you, either you get greedy and play more to get more wins or you stop at a certain amount of wins and just be contented.
Lack of control had ruined many gambler this has nothing to do with fate a lot of gamblers in a bid to win back some streak of losses continue to gamble uncontrolled until they rekted their account, this is an act of self destruct, a gambler is expected to have a strategy and stick to the rules with discipline with money management many gamblers could not control their emotions when gambling then attributes their losses to fate which is absolutely untrue.

That could happen to anyone as sometimes we loss control, however, if we are not stupid we should learn from our mistakes and start controlling ourselves that's the most important thing to consider as that's the initiation of your strategy, without it, even your strategy is good, it's still worthless.
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March 19, 2021, 02:43:41 PM
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I can’t say it’s pure fate but I think it’s more of strategies and skills because if you know the strategy of the game then you’ll definitely win most of the time. The lack of control though is within you, either you get greedy and play more to get more wins or you stop at a certain amount of wins and just be contented.
It depends on the game. If you are playing poker, billiards, darts your skills and strategies will make the difference. If you are really good on them you will win most of the time, becoming a professional player and gambler. Then someone might say it's your fate to be good or not on these *sports*, but we can't have sure about it for real, there is no way to know if that is the way things really work. It can be about fate or personal effort of each individual.

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March 19, 2021, 05:10:33 PM
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That could happen to anyone as sometimes we loss control, however, if we are not stupid we should learn from our mistakes and start controlling ourselves that's the most important thing to consider as that's the initiation of your strategy, without it, even your strategy is good, it's still worthless.

Knowing the process and understanding your attitude towards gambling, if you can't control your emotions there's always a high chance that you'll just bringing more money to the house.

Any strategy that you'll able to create will not work due to the fact that you'll always going to break it out and not to follow all the plans that you created.

But you just mentioned it, if you are not stupid and you are serious doing good business around this venue, making money is very possible, learn from each mistakes that you made and use it as a building block for higher chances of success.

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March 19, 2021, 06:59:11 PM
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That could happen to anyone as sometimes we loss control, however, if we are not stupid we should learn from our mistakes and start controlling ourselves that's the most important thing to consider as that's the initiation of your strategy, without it, even your strategy is good, it's still worthless.

Knowing the process and understanding your attitude towards gambling, if you can't control your emotions there's always a high chance that you'll just bringing more money to the house.

Any strategy that you'll able to create will not work due to the fact that you'll always going to break it out and not to follow all the plans that you created.

But you just mentioned it, if you are not stupid and you are serious doing good business around this venue, making money is very possible, learn from each mistakes that you made and use it as a building block for higher chances of success.
Once you do lost up your control into yourself then its game over.Dont blame about fate but rather on your own self control because if you do know
that you are in profits then its just ideal that you should secure those things and stop midway so that you do able to cherish it out but most likely
people do really end up on using it all over and asking for more.

This is a common behavior of gamblers which it do really end up on losing it all in the end and do make out some regrets later.

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March 19, 2021, 07:38:50 PM
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Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.
If you choose to gamble for the first time and lose,honestly this could be fate....but if you are not new to the world of gambling and you are on a losing roll and don't stop thats lack of control!

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.
With a touch of mathematics here and there and you win a couple of games that's writing your own fate and has nothing to do with luck!

But if you gamble without any of these and win then it has everything to do with luck!

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry Cry
Honestly between lack of control and luck there is greed sitting  somewhere there which almost every gambler has experienced but with time you learn to know when you have had enough,win or lose you walk away and play another day
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I can’t say it’s pure fate but I think it’s more of strategies and skills because if you know the strategy of the game then you’ll definitely win most of the time. The lack of control though is within you, either you get greedy and play more to get more wins or you stop at a certain amount of wins and just be contented.
It depends on the game. If you are playing poker, billiards, darts your skills and strategies will make the difference. If you are really good on them you will win most of the time, becoming a professional player and gambler. Then someone might say it's your fate to be good or not on these *sports*, but we can't have sure about it for real, there is no way to know if that is the way things really work. It can be about fate or personal effort of each individual.
Exactly, what i mean is, not all kinds of game or gambling was should be always interchangeable with fate but any gambling without proper management and have a lack of control could always sets you on a hot seat and will burnt you out. But also not all kind of gambling should relied only on your skills and strategies because it is not only a game but it is a gambling that even some people are not in favour about gambling but this game has some sort of fate flavour that doesn't solely relied on the set of skills the gamblers have.
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March 19, 2021, 10:29:34 PM
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Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.


Your fate is 50/50 and luck plays a crucial role, but if you have a lack of control and you cannot control your greed, your chances is 20% to win the game, in the long run your chances is diminishing, the longer the game drag on, the higher the chances of the house edge to caught you, so learn the right time to stop and moderate your greed if you want to win.
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You can't beat the house edge, your chances are slim the house edge always win and it's a fact and you are going to lose if you have no control and thinks that you have a chance to beat the house, that will be your fate, but if you know how and when to stop at the right time you can take home your winnings, gamblers are tempted to continue playing, thinking that luck is on their side, if you are playing for fun, that's no problem but if you are betting what you can't afford to lose, then you have a problem.

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March 19, 2021, 10:56:42 PM
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Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.


Your fate is 50/50 and luck plays a crucial role, but if you have a lack of control and you cannot control your greed, your chances is 20% to win the game, in the long run your chances is diminishing, the longer the game drag on, the higher the chances of the house edge to caught you, so learn the right time to stop and moderate your greed if you want to win.
Dont know where you do get those percentages but actually its all random but to presume out that gambling is just neither win or lose then 50% on both side chances would be bit precise to describe on.

It is just on how you do make up things that do affect your profitability just like for example on playing more in spite on the profiting side and with this behavior when you will really be suffering for loss which
you would really took the blame with fate that it isnt on your side.

Most of the time these kind of denials or realizations are really that common.
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Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.
I don't know how it is termed as fate when we are betting against a house edge continuously. Would you call running with an injured leg in a race, as fate? No, because you were starting with a disadvantage which eventually meant you were more likely to lose than to win and it should not be a surprise.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.
Winning from dice or any game is pure luck and since the house edge is minimal mostly 1% for all casinos, you can still win but if you lose it's not because of fate, it is because you were meant to lose against a house edge.

Lack of control brings emotions into your betting which just enlarges the problem if nothing else. If you were meant to lose $10 and stop and you don't have control, then you will end up losing $100 in the greed of chasing your losses. So losses happen because of house edge and they get bigger than they are meant to because of the lack of control over your gambling.

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March 20, 2021, 05:47:17 PM
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Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.


Your fate is 50/50 and luck plays a crucial role, but if you have a lack of control and you cannot control your greed, your chances is 20% to win the game, in the long run your chances is diminishing, the longer the game drag on, the higher the chances of the house edge to caught you, so learn the right time to stop and moderate your greed if you want to win.
Don't think of such a high win rate because you are making a reasonable inference about gambling, the time in gambling is proportional to the amount of money lost, and the question of how to control it, and unless you only play a single match then stop, otherwise you won't have a chance to come back. Pretty sad that we never play dice or any gambling game only one time, the number is always a hundred times and a thousand, even a million times, time for a game is too little to experience and we need to play more times to experience after that, resulting in loss of control and no chance of winning, fate has been predetermined

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March 20, 2021, 07:58:39 PM
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Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.


Your fate is 50/50 and luck plays a crucial role, but if you have a lack of control and you cannot control your greed, your chances is 20% to win the game, in the long run your chances is diminishing, the longer the game drag on, the higher the chances of the house edge to caught you, so learn the right time to stop and moderate your greed if you want to win.
Don't think of such a high win rate because you are making a reasonable inference about gambling, the time in gambling is proportional to the amount of money lost, and the question of how to control it, and unless you only play a single match then stop, otherwise you won't have a chance to come back. Pretty sad that we never play dice or any gambling game only one time, the number is always a hundred times and a thousand, even a million times, time for a game is too little to experience and we need to play more times to experience after that, resulting in loss of control and no chance of winning, fate has been predetermined
Depends on what you've been dealing with and as mentioned between sports bet and dice games then they do really differ in terms of amounts of bets that had been put up but to mind up on
how much you had put up as a capital of those bets then it would really be just the same, it do only differs on the duration on how you would gonna spend it.

When it comes to Fate matters then you are the ones who are making it which it depends on the action that you had done.Once you do get out when you are in green
then you do make yourself profitable but if you do decide to play much more then tendency on losing it all is high.

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March 21, 2021, 05:20:16 AM
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Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling.

It's not fate. Luck plays a part in many games, certainly, but fate does not. It is, as you say, a mechanism that people use to pacify themselves, to move responsibility for the loss away from themselves and onto something else, onto the universe as a whole. Saying that an outcome was due to fate is the same as saying "it's not my fault that I lost"... when it clearly would be your fault if you lost due to your own poor judgement, and if you lost due to bad luck, then you were just unlucky this time and perhaps bet too big given the mathematics. Luck tends to even out over time. Fate plays no part in gambling. An erroneous belief in fate, however, can certainly influence your mental state... as the false idea of a winning or a lucky streak can lead you into bad decisions.
That's exactly true, fate has nothing to do with gambling, that’s literally not the word for it. Maybe "luck"? That could be a better choice of words, fate and luck are very different things, and I wouldn't even say that luck plays a major role considering the fact that mathematically everyone loses if they keep gambling, there is not a single person on earth that can play on a provably fair and 1% or more house edge game forever and keep making money, eventually everyone loses.

So what this means is, if you lack control and keep gambling and lose money that is your own fault, sure if you end up winning some major jackpot we could say that you are lucky, but if you are losing and you are losing more than you should, that is more than your fault, it is something you should have stopped long time ago. This is why I think it is quite obvious that people should stay away from gambling if they can't stop whenever they want.

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March 21, 2021, 05:25:54 AM
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You can't beat the house edge, your chances are slim the house edge always win and it's a fact and you are going to lose if you have no control and thinks that you have a chance to beat the house, that will be your fate,
Lol Winning against the House is a LUCK and not a fate , I can't find reason why others accepts losing or winning is a fate in gambling when the truth is Luck in which Letting them win or lose.
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but if you know how and when to stop at the right time you can take home your winnings,
Completely agreed on this because our Timing is mostly what chances to win is , and staying longer is mostly the losing way in gambling.
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if you are playing for fun, that's no problem but if you are betting what you can't afford to lose, then you have a problem.
Allot amount that will go for gambling so Win or lose you can accept it easily .

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